hey
so i bought an optimus one this week and have already noticed the touch lag and stuff.
was always gonna root it, and have done jailbreaking on ipt/iphones but i know nothing about the android equivalent apart from what i have googled since then.
have read http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=901247 and a lot of other stuff and i thought i got it, but obviously i didnt.
basically, phone was on 2.2.2 so i downgraded to 10a 2.2 so i could root. ran z4root, installed custom recovery and then flashed milk_os's fixed kernel onto it.
kept showing "android.process.acore has stopped working" errors on screen, and i thought i could just upgrade back to 2.2.2 without breaking the kernel.
couldn't find a download of the latest firmware (but have since then) so i used pc suite 4 to update.
phone is back in 2.2.2 but root is gone and kernel is back how it was before.
tl;dr what i want to know is the difference between a rom and a kernel, and if it is possible to update the OS without changing the kernel, or root on 2.2 and then update to 2.2.2 without removing root so i can then install the milk_os kernel.
i have a copy of the latest update 2.2.2 from my provider which i can install with recovery if it will stop it overwriting kernel and/or removing root.
alternatively, cm7 is a 2.3.3 rom, is it worth just downgrading, rooting and flashing that? i assume that wont break my root
sorry for noobness, i just want to play angry birds without lag and im a compulsive fiddler/breaker.
PS also, if i go to 2.3 gingerbread am i correct in thinking my class2 microsd card will not work anymore on account of app2sd or whatever?
can someone please just tell me the best option for me, i have tried to google and read myself to find an answer but new to the scene and some things seem to be taken as understood and i don't get them at all.
thanks
terrycurls said:
hey
so i bought an optimus one this week and have already noticed the touch lag and stuff.
was always gonna root it, and have done jailbreaking on ipt/iphones but i know nothing about the android equivalent apart from what i have googled since then.
have read http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=901247 and a lot of other stuff and i thought i got it, but obviously i didnt.
basically, phone was on 2.2.2 so i downgraded to 10a 2.2 so i could root. ran z4root, installed custom recovery and then flashed milk_os's fixed kernel onto it.
kept showing "android.process.acore has stopped working" errors on screen, and i thought i could just upgrade back to 2.2.2 without breaking the kernel.
couldn't find a download of the latest firmware (but have since then) so i used pc suite 4 to update.
phone is back in 2.2.2 but root is gone and kernel is back how it was before.
tl;dr what i want to know is the difference between a rom and a kernel, and if it is possible to update the OS without changing the kernel, or root on 2.2 and then update to 2.2.2 without removing root so i can then install the milk_os kernel.
i have a copy of the latest update 2.2.2 from my provider which i can install with recovery if it will stop it overwriting kernel and/or removing root.
alternatively, cm7 is a 2.3.3 rom, is it worth just downgrading, rooting and flashing that? i assume that wont break my root
sorry for noobness, i just want to play angry birds without lag and im a compulsive fiddler/breaker.
PS also, if i go to 2.3 gingerbread am i correct in thinking my class2 microsd card will not work anymore on account of app2sd or whatever?
can someone please just tell me the best option for me, i have tried to google and read myself to find an answer but new to the scene and some things seem to be taken as understood and i don't get them at all.
thanks
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a. kernal =/= rom
kernel is something that works beneth the operating system.. its like this
YOU -> Interface -> Operating System (ROM/Android/Linux/JVM) -> Kernel -> Hardware
and back.
I also assume LG's updater flashes both the rom and the kernel. so in simple terms, use Custom Rom to flash a new rom (void/CM7/etc) and use it. There is no trick way of the stuff ur explaining to happen.
b. Android 2.2.2 doesn't do jack ****. downgrade to 2.2 then upgrade to CM7 or whatever. class 2 sd cards SHOULD have a random unmount error. i think void might have fixed it; check plz. flashing cm7 should fix everything u explained, but don't expect much from the ROM; its in dev. FYI touchscreen fix is included in cm7
c. custom roms, including cm7 has root built in.
d. conclusion
i. use cm7 route -> flash custom recovery -> flash CM7 (tricky, be careful) -> touchscreen profit!
ii. use froyo rom route -> flash custom recovery -> flash rom of ur choice (void, megatron) -> flash touchscreen kernel -> reboot -> profit
e. press thanks if ur thankful. i would like some thanks lulz
cheers
There is a Kernel you can flash that helps fix the bug
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=929941
thanks!!!
awesome, thanks heaps for that.
just one more thing, i assume the custom roms like cm7 and megatron/void all have root built in? or does the custom recovery do something to stop the root being removed when you reflash
once you root the phone, no matter what custom rom you use, it will still be "un-rooted".
Only when you use the kdz updater to put back original firmware, phone is no longer rooted.
thanks
awesome, thanks for that
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Just got my HTC Hero a few days back. It was a Malaysian set without the Android market. I got fed up with the crappy apps installer it came with so I followed one of the tutorials in the forum and had it rooted (i think) and upgraded to the international version.
Old version
Build: 2.73.728.5 146733 CL#61267 release-keys
New Version
Build: 2.73.405.5 146733 CL#61267 release-keys
I got the android market and I'm loving it. I loved it so much that I ran out of memory and sorta crashed the phone. I did a factory reset and re-flash the firmware. Then I found out about apps2sd. I've been digging into the forum on guides to set it up but none of them actually worked.
Can some gurus on this here forum please write a short guide on how to manually install apps2sd?
My current setup:
Phone just rebooted clean after a wipe. The ROM is the international stock ROM. The recovery image I've installed is the AMON-RA version. My SD card has been formatted using the AMON RA Recovery console, so by right it should have all the necessary partitions. The radio is still stock as I have never updated it to anything else (didn't have enough information to realize the full implications of updating the radio, so I put that on hold for the time being)
What do I do next? I have installed terminal emulator though as I gather from the forums that it's a must.
I'm begging all gurus out there to please shine some light on this dark crater I'm in.
why not just stop using crappy stock roms and flash the latest modaco? its a lot faster, has more featues and app2sd is build in. do a nandroid backup for safety, and use a backup tool of your choice (i bought my backup pro, its not cheap, but i dont like the free ones, they have never worked well for me) for your contacts etc.
Its realy easy, a lot easyer than trying to get apps2sd runnig right on a stock rom (I dont know if that is even possible)
Ouch~ Really that crappy huh......
As per your suggestion, I flashed my ROM to 3.1-update-hero-modacocustomrom-core-signed.... either I messed up or it's actually a feature with the rom.... but my social networking apps just won't work after that. It's just a bit too advance for me at this juncture.
So I'm back to the updated official ROM again....
Any takers on the guide to manually installing apps2sd???
Is all hope lost?? I was hoping that someone would have had the experience of installing apps2sd from scratch.
Custom roms are good and all but blind reliance on them don't sit too well with me. The custom roms are in every aspect PERFECT but what I am trying to achieve is a better understanding of how the thing works. What better way than to put a hold on the shortcuts and doing it the manual way.....
Im looking for the same thing man... just want to add the app2sd to the stock htc hero cmda rom after rooting...
Anyone???
Unlikely, the only people capable of producing these guide are the type of people who DO install custom roms. If you're that fussed you'll work it out yourself and produce the guide yourself.
Its 100 times easier to just get a custom rom installed.
Hello Everyone
I Have A An LG P509 And I Was Wondering If There Was A Rom With Swype Availible For This Phone Thats A Gingerbread Rom.
Also I Was Wondering If I Want To Unroot Later Will The Recovery Rom Have To Be The Same Firmware? For Ex (The Recovery Has To Be 2.3 If I Rooted It To That) And How Is It Possible For The Phone To Be Back To Its Original State When Unrooted?
I KNow I Asked 3 Questions (So Sorry For That) But These Things Been Rolling Around My Head For A While. If You Do Help I Thank You Greatly
1.no, u can get swype for free. Google for swype beta.
2.yes
3.yes unless u installed custom recovery.
Unrooting is not the same as flashing an original recovery firmware. I have not done this so this is just my imagination.
There are some posts for the original P509 recovery if you wanted to flash the LG firmware to return the phone to the original. You can also save the original recovery firmware before flashing a custom recovery. That uses the "dd" command to make an img file. I should have done that first. Look in the posts to find that exact command.
Unrooting is mostly just removing the Superuser app and "su" command and doesn't require reflashing, I imagine.
I don't know about the Swype for gingerbread.
Thanks For For The Help Guys But If It Has To Be The Same 2.3 (Gingerbread) Rom How Can I Return The Phone Back To The Original State When The Original State Is 2.2 (Froyo) Is There a rom i dont know about?
R-Sarius said:
Thanks For For The Help Guys But If It Has To Be The Same 2.3 (Gingerbread) Rom How Can I Return The Phone Back To The Original State When The Original State Is 2.2 (Froyo) Is There a rom i dont know about?
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You will make a NAND backup before installing the new ROM. If you want to go back -> Restore backup.
Or you cand use KDZ update; it will install a fresh new factory ROM, your phone will be just like when you unboxed it.
try http://www.filecrop.com/
Hello to all,
Firstly first post to this site and also new to the world of rooting/flashing so bare with me on this one..
Ok as title states I would like to know on how to successfully flash my x10 and receive the benefits that xda have given to alot of us!
Phone specs:
Xperia x10a.
Ver 2.1update1.
Rooted via super one click.
So far I have only been able to root the phone.. I have TB and have performed a back up recently. I do also have the Rom Manager app whilst watching a tutorial via youtube flashing using the Rom Manager I was not able to use the Flash ClockworkMod Recovery as the x10 was not in the listing to proceed. I have also got xrecovery ver 0.3 and tried another method using this but I was not able to install xrecovery properly.. I downloaded it all well and good but went to install and the 3 windows never became ticks just crosses.. Uninstalled and reinstalled but to no avail it did not work..
So my questions are:
Have I done something wrong on my end for this not to work? (knowing my luck yes).
And all I'm after if someone could take the time out and lay out a clear somewhat easy path in order for myself to be able to flash and install custom Roms? cm7 is what I would like to use unless if a good recommendation is given.
Thank you in advance to all and I do apologize for the long post I just wanted to make sure I covered everything.. Still new to this
Kind Regards.
Agera.
Xrecovery installer can be a bit troublesome. Sometimes it doesn't even work for me.
In my opinion, the best way to install xrecovery, root, & jit enable your x10 is through flashtool. You will need a PC but the process works better than the installer. Try that method and find out if that works.
Hey thanks for your reply, my noobness is showing greatly at this point regarding xrecovery... it'll help if I actually click install busy box and destination folder (duh) made me look....yeah Ok well now I have a phone that has been rooted and now have xrecovery in operation, I guess now comes to install a custom rom.
Now to sum it all up basically I have to copy paste desired rom and google rom pack load it onto the sd card (not in any file inside sd but just on sd) perform final backup get into xrecovery factory wipe first? I believe then custom rom reboot then get back into xrecovery then install google apps reboot and done?
I hope I got that down I'm trying to remember processes without having to go back to a tutorial, if I left anything out permission to give me a clip over the ear
Cheers.
When you pick a ROM, make sure the phone's baseband matches the ROMS baseband the developer wants. Also, follow how the way the dev wants the ROM installed, like phone wiped and cache wiped and stuff. And sometime there are multiple files that needed to be flashed in a specific order in xrecovery. So make sure you follow all the devs directions. Hope this helps.
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and you can find different ROMs that don't require you to flash googleapps as well, that just makes it confusing. I started with FreeX10, as it was simple and easy to install. once you have a hang of it, I recommend using Trip's GB MIUI. and you said you backed up phone before you installed xrecovery? I recommend you backup using xrecovery first
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fixed phone was able to get back into xrecovery and do a restore...
Ok, something I want to ask regarding what I did today when I went to update to a newer o/s eveything went fine until after the phone rebooted and came back to the home screen the 2.2.1 froyo rom I used seemed to be refreshing itself every 2 seconds which made it next to impossible to navigate around the phone... The arc version 2.3.1 opened up and about 30 seconds it froze restarted and shut down again did that for a while... So both didnt work for me only other thing I opened up was the google pack so I could get the market and gmail, I also tried it without installing google apps... same thing happened.
So my question is have I forgotten to put an extra file in? or was it my blind luck that I used to unstable roms?
I've really tried here.. if anyone can please post a link that is certain to work with exactly what i need to do and what files I need that would be really great. Whether its 2.2 or 2.3 it doesnt matter to me so long as it works at this stage I'm having no luck getting something solid here...
Cheers.
I wanted to change the kernel from my P500 to solve the lag problem and get better overall performance.
I rooted the phone using gingerbreak 1.20
after that i installed from the market Rom manager restarted the phone, and i backup the phone from there.
After that I got stuck with my kernel replacement and I gave up and I wanted to reset the phone to default state. I didn't do anything to my phone.
I unrooted the phone and did the factory data reset.
Now when I reboot the phone and press power+volume down+home I still get the Clockworkmod Recovery boot menu. In an untouched P500 what do you get when pressing that combination? Is there any way to make my phone 100% factory state ?
sorry for my bad english
u should even delete the recovery.....(TO get rid of it)
the recovery is on the sd card, right? i formated the sd card... so there is nothing related to rom manager...
u must try flashing the default rom from the devlopment forum.(KDZ Updater)
blah
if i wait for gingerbread update will the update solve this?
The Recovery is not on the sdcard.
Go here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1065197
and download the file "Original_Recovery_thunderg.zip" (or something to that effect) and flash it through cwm. This will restore the recovery as it was originally.
The zip is unsigned so you will have to toggle signature verification in cwm recovery.
@mihir he doen't want to get his recovery back(in other word he wants to remove it).
@soberspine http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=944881 check dis thread and install the original rom...
@devil the original recovery zip in the link will restore the condition of the recovery to factory condition, i.e remove it.
this android reminds me of installing windows 95
the new unpdate to gingerbread will come out next month, so the update to 2.3 will get rid of that boot menu and other things that where changed when I installed Rom manager? in other words will the phone go to factory state before rooting/unrooting and stuff.
Yeah most probably the recovery will be cleared if and when you update to gb. But if you want to clear it now use the zip, it works.
Sent from my LG Optimus One P500 using XDA App
I don't think you'll be able to update to GB from a custom ROM or rooted phone. Even if the option comes up, it is recommended to go back to stock state (without recovery and root) or else it might cause problems.
i didn't installed any custom rom. the only thing I did was to root my phone using gingerbreak and then installed rom manager.
the only thing that changed to my phone is that now it has that boot menu clockworkmod.
now i unrooted my phone.
So it is not safe to make official update even if the only change is that i have on my phone clockworkmode?
Step by step picture guide to completely restore to open-box state using KDZ updater
did this for thousands of times and if you are doubted in any steps feel free to ask me
btw for your question, an un-touched optimus one pressing the recovery combination will result in
a stable image of an android jumped out of a white-rectangular box
a bar at the bottom loading
but that's it, nothing more no matter how long you wait
Also for your updating question:
LG WONT recognize your phone with their official updating tool only when you are ROOTED (so of course when you perform any other steps after rooting, it wont either... e.g. installing custom recovery, flash roms etc)
BUT if you go back to the original thing with KDZ, LG will update anything for you -tested by myself!
thank you for all the clarifications and the tutorial.
I will wait now for the new android 2.3 release and ill do the whole thing then.
It is possible after rooting and installing clockworkmod the phone to work slower?
It feels like the phone is responding slower or maybe is just me imagining things .
hehe. nothing like that.
soberspine said:
thank you for all the clarifications and the tutorial.
I will wait now for the new android 2.3 release and ill do the whole thing then.
It is possible after rooting and installing clockworkmod the phone to work slower?
It feels like the phone is responding slower or maybe is just me imagining things .
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r291 said:
hehe. nothing like that.
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ur welcome
Right, it wont be slower dont worry
After updating my O1 to Gingerbread two friends complained about receiving just half of the message right and the rest of it with squares/boxes, (at) or Chinese characters, this just happens after x characters, since they get short messages without problems. I think this just happened to them, I'm not sure. Others receive the whole message without any problem. I'm not sure if the problem is the Stock ROM, their cellphones or if I configured my cellphone wrong. Any ideas about what's wrong?
Ps: I'm so sorry about my English, it isn't so good.
hi Phoenix232,
there are seldom any problems like this in a newly updated firmware.
still try master reset.
If that doesn't helps i would recommend updating again.
Good luck.
I'm so sorry to ask this but what are the button combinations I need to press to do the master reset?(It's the same as hard reset I think?) I've been searching but I can't find the right buttons for the P500.
EDIT: Actually, I think I found out how to do it, it's HOME+Vol. Down+Power, but if I do this I get in Recovery Mode.
EDIT 2: Yep, it looks like I need to do this without any recovery installed. I'll try it later. Thanks.
Hello Phoenix232,
I have an O1 myself and I think that I can help you. Please answer my following questions:
1) Did you update to Stock firmware or are you using an CFW?
2) Wich version did you happen to have installed before gingerbread?
3) Which version came pre-installed in your device?
I guess that since you can boot to Recovery mode you are using a CFW, am I right? But if you remove the Recovery, did the Master Reset help?
BR
1) Stock
2)Stock Froyo ROM with Franco Kernel
3) Stock Froyo ROM
I just rooted it, installed recovery and installed franco's kernel. I removed the recovery, did the reset, but it's happening the same thing.
Im currently facing a similar issue, people telling me they simply didnt get my SMS.
Having this issue after installing a new rom.
With me they get half of the message and the other half is just squares or chinese characters.
Dear Phoenix232,
I think that that the best procedure for you is to first go back to original O1 Froyo ROM without mods or root, master reset, them perform the upgrade to official O1 GB and master reset again if you want to use a stock ROM with no mods. Please be warned that this procedure can kill your handset, and since you already rooted and changed kernels you probably voided your warranty so be extra careful with all that.
I haven't already upgraded my O1 since it is my primary work handset, can't risk loosing all my info, but I've done a very similar procedure with a Motorola Milestone and it was all OK (2.1 stock, 2.2 shadowmod, them back to stock 2.1 and finally stock 2.2). You just can't root and change kernels then try to upgrade directly to GB stock without first going 100% back to Froyo stock. (no root, stock kernel etc...). Manufacturers tend to taylor their Android OS upgrades based in the previous version so everything must be exactly the same as it was when you first purchased it for the upgrade to work correctly in the end.
Good Luck!
That makes sense. I'll try it right now and post the result asap. Thanks.
I got back to Fryo and the SMSs are working fine. I'm upgrading to gingerbread now.
Question: Can I root it after doing everything you wrote? Or it'll bug again?