[Q] sprint vs. verizon

[Q] sprint vs. verizon - HTC EVO 3D

Ok, I'm confused.....i hear a lot of complaints by Sprint users..
i'm a premium member(10yrs) living in Jacksonville and I am considering an upgrade from Hero to 3D but i need the 4g speed or it's pointless to upgrade.
Is Verizon really that much better for strength?

kinextions said:
Ok, I'm confused.....i hear a lot of complaints by Sprint users..
i'm a premium member(10yrs) living in Jacksonville and I am considering an upgrade from Hero to 3D but i need the 4g speed or it's pointless to upgrade.
Is Verizon really that much better for strength?
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Yes, Verizon LTE is the fastest right now.. but very expensive. I think they don't offer unlimited plan for LTE it will throttle you at 2 gig of data. But I'm not sure check their plan make sure you ask about unlimited LTE.
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Once the lte market finally gets a few more phones it will be slow like wimax but it will still have better penetration

epsix said:
Yes, Verizon LTE is the fastest right now.. but very expensive. I think they don't offer unlimited plan for LTE it will throttle you at 2 gig of data. But I'm not sure check their plan make sure you ask about unlimited LTE.
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Agreed.
I think there are other reasons to upgrade besides the 4G however.

In my opinion, the Evo 3D will be so much more than just a 4G phone. Even without 4G service in your area, the Evo 3D will deliver on all other aspects. My main reason I'm getting it is in the hardware alone. 1.2 Ghz dual-core with 1 GB RAM. Plus, it's the fastest CPU on the market to date.

LTE roll out has been halted by the feds due to interference with GPS and other services. So it may be a while.
Plus, speaking as a Verizon person now, you're way better off on Sprint. If I got the exact same plan I have now but with the addition of unlimited 4g data and an extra smart phone on Sprint, it'd cost me $140 less per month.

aoaleman said:
In my opinion, the Evo 3D will be so much more than just a 4G phone. Even without 4G service in your area, the Evo 3D will deliver on all other aspects. My main reason I'm getting it is in the hardware alone. 1.2 Ghz dual-core with 1 GB RAM. Plus, it's the fastest CPU on the market to date.
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ok, thanks for all the replies........
so is 4G really as fast as comcast....because that is what a sprint dealer is telling me.

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kinextions said:
ok, thanks for all the replies........
so is 4G really as fast as comcast....because that is what a sprint dealer is telling me.
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Everywhere speeds will vary like always. I can't speak on Comcast speeds but I've heard they're fast. On average Sprint's 4G is around 3-6 mbps, I may be wrong. It is however slightly slower than LTE.

NewZJ said:
Once the lte market finally gets a few more phones it will be slow like wimax but it will still have better penetration
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thats what she said.
sorry.
carry on

Verizon's 4G is currently unlimited, and costs the same as their 3G data plans (no extra fee) contrary to prior posts in thread. All indications are that it won't be much longer though. The real kicker for anyone enthused for the evo3d is that no mention of a similarly spec'ed HTC device on Verizon at the moment...I'd give it 50/50 for appearing by late in the year.

kinextions said:
I'm sorry I must have missed it....whats the point of DeNiro?
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Have you seen goodfellas?
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If you want truly unlimited everything with Verizon, your total cost would be $119.98 before taxes or any other fees. That's $89.99 for talk and text, and another $29.99 for data. For the moment, they aren't charging any additional for 4G data on the T-bolt. But, they do cap all their customers at 5GB of data per month. It's all in the fine print.
"Verizon Wireless strives to provide customers the best experience when using our network, a shared resource among tens of millions of customers. To help achieve this, if you use an extraordinary amount of data and fall within the top 5% of Verizon Wireless data users we may reduce your data throughput speeds periodically for the remainder of your then current and immediately following billing cycle to ensure high quality network performance for other users at locations and times of peak demand. Our proactive management of the Verizon Wireless network is designed to ensure that the remaining 95% of data customers aren't negatively affected by the inordinate data consumption of just a few users."
You can choose a plan that gives you 900 minutes total, and unlimited calling to any 5 numbers you choose, along with unlimited text and data, for a total of $109.98. That might be the most comparable to the Sprint Everything Data plan. Which is 450 minutes total, but free calls to ANY mobile on ANY carrier, and also has unlimited text and data. The difference is, this is $69.99 from Sprint, with a $10 data charge, for a total of $79.99 before tax and fees.
And, Sprint is truly unlimited. Some users in the Evo 4g forum said that when they got to 35gb in one month, Sprint moved them to the slower connection speeds until a new bill cycle started. Verizon does this at 5gb.
Here is the pricing breakdown:
Sprint vs. Verizon
$99.99 vs $119.98 = Unlimited
$79.99 vs $109.98 = minutes, plus free calls to mobiles
Apples to apples is hard to compare, but for the price, Sprint is a lot more affordable. And the service will be comparable. When it comes to calling and 3g, Sprint roams on verizon towers anyway, and since you are unlimited, you can roam without penalties. I know this from experience.
My vote, stick with Sprint.

@ Bradleyw801.....actually i'm on the 69.99 450 minutes and unlimited everything else with the Hero...I dont want to pay more for Comcast high speed if I can upgrade $10 more with sprint to get 4G.
I think I'll stay with Sprint....thanks.

Sprint is a lot cheaper. Using the everything plus referral program -- everyone has access to this through the russ.s.mcguire email address -- you can get 500 minutes and everything else for $60 a month. Also, if you need a family plan you can get a much better deal. I pay about $48 for roughly 1000 minutes on my family shared plan.
If you're clever you can route calls via 3g though a hosted PBX box/Google voice and not pay for minutes -- or pay about $4-6 dollars a month with a service like Vitelity. I tried to get a data only plan from Sprint, but they wouldn't give it to me. Apparently you need to prove that you're deaf.
Verizon is the better network, but Sprint is dramatically cheaper. Also, Verizon's idea of unlimited 4g is 10gb per month; not quite unlimited.

osi13 said:
Sprint is a lot cheaper. Using the everything plus referral program -- everyone has access to this through the russ.s.mcguire email address -- you can get 500 minutes and everything else for $60 a month. Also, if you need a family plan you can get a much better deal. I pay about $48 for roughly 1000 minutes on my family shared plan.
If you're clever you can route calls via 3g though a hosted PBX box/Google voice and not pay for minutes -- or pay about $4-6 dollars a month with a service like Vitelity. I tried to get a data only plan from Sprint, but they wouldn't give it to me. Apparently you need to prove that you're deaf.
Verizon is the better network, but Sprint is dramatically cheaper. Also, Verizon's idea of unlimited 4g is 10gb per month; not quite unlimited.
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Do you know if everything plus referral program can be used in person at an authorized dealer? I'm porting my number to sprint when the EVO3d comes out and i don't want to have to ship my phone and be without service between the order and receiving of the phone.

osi13 said:
Sprint is a lot cheaper. Using the everything plus referral program -- everyone has access to this through the russ.s.mcguire email address -- you can get 500 minutes and everything else for $60 a month. Also, if you need a family plan you can get a much better deal. I pay about $48 for roughly 1000 minutes on my family shared plan.
If you're clever you can route calls via 3g though a hosted PBX box/Google voice and not pay for minutes -- or pay about $4-6 dollars a month with a service like Vitelity. I tried to get a data only plan from Sprint, but they wouldn't give it to me. Apparently you need to prove that you're deaf.
Verizon is the better network, but Sprint is dramatically cheaper. Also, Verizon's idea of unlimited 4g is 10gb per month; not quite unlimited.
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What is the russ.s.mcguire email and how do you get the discount????

osi13 said:
Sprint is a lot cheaper. Using the everything plus referral program -- everyone has access to this through the russ.s.mcguire email address -- you can get 500 minutes and everything else for $60 a month. Also, if you need a family plan you can get a much better deal. I pay about $48 for roughly 1000 minutes on my family shared plan.
If you're clever you can route calls via 3g though a hosted PBX box/Google voice and not pay for minutes -- or pay about $4-6 dollars a month with a service like Vitelity. I tried to get a data only plan from Sprint, but they wouldn't give it to me. Apparently you need to prove that you're deaf.
Verizon is the better network, but Sprint is dramatically cheaper. Also, Verizon's idea of unlimited 4g is 10gb per month; not quite unlimited.
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wow I didn't know they even offered Data-only, even if only for the deaf. Good to know...

aoaleman said:
Everywhere speeds will vary like always. I can't speak on Comcast speeds but I've heard they're fast. On average Sprint's 4G is around 3-6 mbps, I may be wrong. It is however slightly slower than LTE.
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I'm averaging 6-8mbps in downtown Chicago. I can't complain about that. Verizon's LTE is not much faster plus once their LTE coverage gets a little more saturated the speeds will come down. That was the same when Sprint first released WIMAX in chicago. We got very fast speeds from their first 4G data card until more devices started coming out. Either carrier has been good to me as far as service goes but it all comes down to Sprint being a cheaper option. I pay $81 a month, including taxes and fees, after my corporate discount on Sprint.

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You guys think Sprint will ever put a cap on their Data??

(Reference: Data cap = the amount of bytes you can d/l on the network.)
First AT&T capped at 2GB,
then Verizon capped at 2GB.
Do you think Sprint is next to put a data cap?
Just curious if anyone's heard anything. Cuz I'm switching to Revol if so. Lol.
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Haven't heard anything but it's only a matter of time I think.
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I also think it will happen eventually, especially if Sprint ever gets the iPhone and we get a huge influx of users.

They will since people insist on using tethering for free.

lol reddit

Where I live, they won't need to. St a standard 3G rate of 47kbps, you can't exceed a few gigs a month...
Via my HTC

I dont think they should, plus if they did we could protest it and get granfathered in.

At this time it wouldn't make much sense for Sprint to have a data cap. They are a distant third as far as customer base here in the U.S. Placing a data cap would only hinder their ability to woo new customers away from the competition.
Will they eventually place data caps on their mobile networks? That depends on several factors
1) If they get the iPhone and even then it will would occur at least minimum of year after the T-mo merger with AT&T is finalized. Why? Because they will need more money to provide these data services and the iPhone will surely add more customers to Sprint as long as they can offer something the other carriers cannot. Such as unlimited data plans.
2) If the demand for alternative home & business Internet increases with their recent acquisition of LTE bandwidth. LTE provides faster speeds and it is the new promising wireless data technology. It could be used to encourage more customers to enter contract with Sprint by bundling their cell customers with home or business Internet services. The encouragement to bundle could be
A) greater caps than the competition at a similar market competitive price
B) one internet plan that cover data between mobile products and home/business Internet
Right now sprint is actively trying to get businesses to switch from their T1 to sprints business class wimax Internet. I believe this to be an experiment for sprint to workout problems before trying to implement something on a larger scale with LTE.
In any case data caps will come, but given sprints current business model it will be affordable and existing data plans will be grandfathered with unlimited data. Grandfathered until the consumer makes a plan change motivated by cost, additional services or technology (like a new phone) that requires data delivery (LTE for e.g.) not defined in their current aggreement.

Since Sprint is touting how they don't have caps in advertising right now, I don't see it happening in the immediate future. As someone mentioned, when the iPhone comes to Sprint that may change.

Maybe when the lightsquared thing kicks in with LTE sprint might. I use data non stop, netflix once or twice a week, and stream music sometimes and I'm no where near 2gb. I hope sprint keeps it like this though.
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Ya..... I don't think sprint really has to worry about capping it. Their 3g speeds in many area's aren't good at all. Mine in NYC is only 510k down and 460k up.

splat matt said:
At this time it wouldn't make much sense for Sprint to have a data cap. They are a distant third as far as customer base here in the U.S. Placing a data cap would only hinder their ability to woo new customers away from the competition.
Will they eventually place data caps on their mobile networks? That depends on several factors
1) If they get the iPhone and even then it will would occur at least minimum of year after the T-mo merger with AT&T is finalized. Why? Because they will need more money to provide these data services and the iPhone will surely add more customers to Sprint as long as they can offer something the other carriers cannot. Such as unlimited data plans.
2) If the demand for alternative home & business Internet increases with their recent acquisition of LTE bandwidth. LTE provides faster speeds and it is the new promising wireless data technology. It could be used to encourage more customers to enter contract with Sprint by bundling their cell customers with home or business Internet services. The encouragement to bundle could be
A) greater caps than the competition at a similar market competitive price
B) one internet plan that cover data between mobile products and home/business Internet
Right now sprint is actively trying to get businesses to switch from their T1 to sprints business class wimax Internet. I believe this to be an experiment for sprint to workout problems before trying to implement something on a larger scale with LTE.
In any case data caps will come, but given sprints current business model it will be affordable and existing data plans will be grandfathered with unlimited data. Grandfathered until the consumer makes a plan change motivated by cost, additional services or technology (like a new phone) that requires data delivery (LTE for e.g.) not defined in their current aggreement.
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Damn. Thanks for taking time to give a detailed explanation. All that makes sense (3.0, haha).
Much appreciated.
Anyway, well I hope they don;t cap it anytime soon because I really dont wanna have to switch to a carrier like Revol.

arozer said:
Damn. Thanks for taking time to give a detailed explanation. All that makes sense (3.0, haha).
Much appreciated.
Anyway, well I hope they don;t cap it anytime soon because I really dont wanna have to switch to a carrier like Revol.
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why would you have to worry about switching? I mean you are already locked in, and probably be unlimited as long as you have your account and dont try to change your rate plan to save money.
If verizon let people grandfathered in, even their 3g customers, and then ATT did it even after people renewed their contract. I really dont think sprint will do any different.

Do I think so? Yeah. DO I see it happening in the next 5 years? NOPE! It's a major selling point for them now. MAJOR selling point. If/When they get the iPhone it'll be even bigger. as of right now I see that and their line up of phones being the thing that keeps them in this provider fight and keeps them alive. Once they have their LTE up and running, and we have even faster 4G with iPhone, and the top line of android phones they are going to be hard to say no too, for every other iphone and android operator out there. Sure their service sucks in spots, and their customer service at times is terrible, BUT I honestly think I can over look that. for everything else they are offering. But once they have a bigger share of the market and start making big boy money. Yeah of course they'll cap it. It's industry standard now.

What most people don't understand is that Sprint DOES have a data cap of 2gb on 3G. It's only 4G that is unlimited.
However, I'm guessing most people are like me and have very limited access to 4G or they prefer not sucking their battery dry by running 4G all day.
Do I think they will eventually cap 4G... Probably, once they either get larger or all other carriers do it. Otherwise they might offer an "unlimited data" plan for a insane price like $80-100 a month.

ExploreMN said:
What most people don't understand is that Sprint DOES have a data cap of 2gb on 3G. It's only 4G that is unlimited.
However, I'm guessing most people are like me and have very limited access to 4G or they prefer not sucking their battery dry by running 4G all day.
Do I think they will eventually cap 4G... Probably, once they either get larger or all other carriers do it. Otherwise they might offer an "unlimited data" plan for a insane price like $80-100 a month.
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As was discussed a lot prior to the Evo4G's release and after and I have clarified it over the phone with tech support and in person with multiple people both "with it" and "way the **** out of it" that part of that $10 enhanced data service fee or whatever the hell its called will also enable us to have 'unlimited 3G' use.
Now, even though I am defending it and have asked many people at all levels and been told "yes that's true" I still don't believe it.....I believe there is that invisible 5g cap still....it was never 2gb...that's everyone else's tierd plans upper-mid-tier beyond which gets insanely pricey.
that said, I have also obliterated that cap before. Def done over 20gb a month on many many occasions...never heard a word.
Oh yeah, and we already are on an $80-$100 unlimited plan...

daneurysm said:
As was discussed a lot prior to the Evo4G's release and after and I have clarified it over the phone with tech support and in person with multiple people both "with it" and "way the **** out of it" that part of that $10 enhanced data service fee or whatever the hell its called will also enable us to have 'unlimited 3G' use.
Now, even though I am defending it and have asked many people at all levels and been told "yes that's true" I still don't believe it.....I believe there is that invisible 5gb cap still....it was never 2gb...that's everyone else's tierd plans upper-mid-tier beyond which gets insanely pricey.
that said, I have also obliterated that cap before. Def done over 20gb a month on many many occasions...never heard a word.
Oh yeah, and we already are on an $80-$100 unlimited plan...
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Maybe it was 5g, but I was told by multiple reps on the phone and at the store that the 3g is capped. I was told the $10 addition WAS for 4G phones only, then they made it for all smartphones.
When I was saying they might increase the price for unlimited, I didn't mean with data/voice/text. I'm talking JUST data...like Verizon's $80 for 10gb data crap.
Don't worry, Sprint will get the money every other carrier gets...one way or another the customers will suffer. I remember a time when technology improved it got cheaper. It seems the cell industry is one of the few that doesn't buy into that concept. LOL

ExploreMN said:
What most people don't understand is that Sprint DOES have a data cap of 2gb on 3G. It's only 4G that is unlimited.
However, I'm guessing most people are like me and have very limited access to 4G or they prefer not sucking their battery dry by running 4G all day.
Do I think they will eventually cap 4G... Probably, once they either get larger or all other carriers do it. Otherwise they might offer an "unlimited data" plan for a insane price like $80-100 a month.
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Source?
Dan Hesse says otherwise:
http://newsroom.sprint.com/article_display.cfm?article_id=1818
But I honestly don't think they will cap their data. I think that by the time Sprint's market share gets big enough that they could risk alienating their customers, technology will be advanced enough to not need data to be throttled or limited. I could see them only offering truly unlimited data if, say, you bundled it with home wimax or something similar. But the cost of data continues to go down, in the near future a data cap will be as antiquated as dial-up.

I sure hope they don't. Feels like we are moving backward, by having caps...
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ExploreMN said:
Maybe it was 5g, but I was told by multiple reps on the phone and at the store that the 3g is capped. I was told the $10 addition WAS for 4G phones only, then they made it for all smartphones.
When I was saying they might increase the price for unlimited, I didn't mean with data/voice/text. I'm talking JUST data...like Verizon's $80 for 10gb data crap.
Don't worry, Sprint will get the money every other carrier gets...one way or another the customers will suffer. I remember a time when technology improved it got cheaper. It seems the cell industry is one of the few that doesn't buy into that concept. LOL
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See: AT&T 30 years ago
While it is slightly different situation back then as Bell Labs certainly developed and spread technology far and wide and it was typically rather affordable--they shut everyone else out of the market. They weren't destroying technology through their monopoly, they were destroying a market for anyone else. Want a different brand phone in your house? No. Want a different color phone? No problem, as long as it's black. Want to use a fax or modem? Pay a $30 fee for no reason and buy our acoustic coupler. Modular wall plug? No, hardwired.
Now we have 4 companies--soon to be 3...and if Sprint doesn't get bought by Google soon Verizon is going to take them over--that's Sprints main beef with the Tmobile deal so far as I see it. No theft, but, they will be bought out of the market out of their own control.
As much as this sucks Sprint is the underdog in all of this, thus the closest thing we have to a "good guy"...and unfortunately while the other companies are trying to squeeze us for all they can while ignoring their infrastructure and failing to advise humanity who wants 'more bandwidth' that there ISN'T more bandwidth and without a tremendous technological and/or bureaucratic breakthrough is impossible to 'create'...
Europe really has us beat on that front. Buy a phone, sure it costs full price--but it's yours. You negotiate a deal, plop in your sim and off you go. Want a new phone? They aren't on 'carriers', the SIM is...pop it in and go. Sure, you can get a subsidized phone on a contract but that's about at classy as getting a GOphone so far as I understand it...sure, it gets the job done and is some people's only option, but, eww....and that's to mention nothing of them being united on a GSM standard....I don't give a **** what standard we unify on, but, it'd be nice if we did and perhaps, maybe--JUST MAYBE--we should do what the rest of the ****ing world is doing for the simple matter of, oh, I don't know, THE REST OF THE ****ING WORLD IS DOING IT?
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Sorry...

Sign the Petition! Stop Verizon from killing unlimited data plans for existing subscr

Verizon will be cutting of all their customers from having Unlimited Data Plans, even if you were grandfathered in.
Verizon has gotten greedy!
Shame on you Shammo! (Fran Shammo Verizon's CFO)
We need to take action! We've done it before we can do it again.
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I wish those petitions mattered. I know that since they are not breaching your current contract nothing can be done. Most likely they are taking off unl data if you upgrade from 3g to 4g(sing a new contract with new terms) or switching to data family plans. All current 4g unl customers might stay on unl plan unless they upgrade their phones. The terms are not clear yet. That's why let's do not panic and wait and see what happens.
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The petitions do matter, they had a huge impact on reversing the proposal of the the $2 credit card fee. They had 50,000 signatures on change.org in just 24 hours it created buzz and a huge community back lash on Verizon.
Though the terms aren't clear yet, it's best not to wait. It's better to build up momentum now so are voices are heard than wait till it's too late.

Signed!
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How about bringing back unlimited for only on 4g, like our limit of data only counts when were using 3g.. 4gb is nice but lte can eat that in less then 8 hours if i try

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lol and I pay 60$ for 1GB of HSPA and unlimited calls/messages in Germany.. D
I'll sign it btw

cipherfx said:
The petitions do matter, they had a huge impact on reversing the proposal of the the $2 credit card fee. They had 50,000 signatures on change.org in just 24 hours it created buzz and a huge community back lash on Verizon.
Though the terms aren't clear yet, it's best not to wait. It's better to build up momentum now so are voices are heard than wait till it's too late.
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Verizon dropped those charge because of FCC warning to open an investigation. Do you think that the petition will make any difference. You are wrong my friend. I wish you were right.
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I think they are only killing 3G plans not 4G.
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Do you need to supply them with your ssn? And they can't even spell privilege. Hmmm....
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lol. + 1
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Late to the party, but it's still important. Signed

I think there is some confusion about what is happening here. They're not killing unlimited data for those people who already have it. They're making it easier to lose it, not taking it away. If you update or receive a device at a reduced rate, you lose unlimited data. Just buy your devices off Craigslist or the XDA market like I've been doing for the past couple years. Always have a newer device and spend less money than you did signing a new contract.
And before any asks, YES you can switch between devices (4G --> 4G, 4G --> 3G, 3G --> 3G, and 3G --> 4G). As long as you don't buy the phone from Verizon at a reduced rate, your plan will be unaffected. I can confirm this from speaking to multiple Verizon reps in various positions/departments/pay grades. Every one said the same thing (which is rare) so this has obviously been a topic of discussion.
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They released the full details on it a couple weeks ago. You can keep your unlimited data, as long as you pay full retail for your phone (which I plan to do for the Razr HD). What I don't know is how they will handle it when certain people on a family plan upgrade their phone. Will they have their own "share" plan, or will each person on the plan get pushed into shared and lose their unlimited? I honestly have no idea, however, when my father or brother who are both on my account come time to extend their contract, I'm kicking them off my plan. They don't see the reasoning for spending 650+ on a new phone just to keep a data plan, but I do. I average 25-30 GB of data a month. That would far outweigh the cost of going over my $100 for 10 GB allowance on a shared plan, especially with other users on the plan. The $600-$700 bucks is a small price to pay upfront compared to the cost of overage charges. So in closing, no you won't lose your unlimited data, as long as you pay full retail. And unfortunately, no petition will change that.

For now, Sprint still offers new unlimited plans. I'll go there if Verizon cans unlimited. And, agreed... petitions don't do a thing. Verizon is responsible to their shareholders to keep the company profitable. They'll do what they do.

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They released the full details on it a couple weeks ago. You can keep your unlimited data, as long as you pay full retail for your phone (which I plan to do for the Razr HD). What I don't know is how they will handle it when certain people on a family plan upgrade their phone. Will they have their own "share" plan, or will each person on the plan get pushed into shared and lose their unlimited? I honestly have no idea, however, when my father or brother who are both on my account come time to extend their contract, I'm kicking them off my plan. They don't see the reasoning for spending 650+ on a new phone just to keep a data plan, but I do. I average 25-30 GB of data a month. That would far outweigh the cost of going over my $100 for 10 GB allowance on a shared plan, especially with other users on the plan. The $600-$700 bucks is a small price to pay upfront compared to the cost of overage charges. So in closing, no you won't lose your unlimited data, as long as you pay full retail. And unfortunately, no petition will change that.
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They force the entire family onto the shared data plan. I just got the Razr yesterday, and they put us onto the family shared plan with 6GB of data to share (we have 3 people with smartphones, so 2GB for each of us). This is actually cheaper for us than it was before with me on unlimited and the two others on 2GB plans, AND we get unlimited talk and text.
Also, you should stop using 25-30GB a month. I'm surprised Verizon hasn't severely throttled your data speeds, people like you who hog up so much data are the exact reason why Verizon is trying to force people onto limited and shared data plans. This video goes into detail about why so many carriers are switching to tiered plans. This link talks about how it could be fixed, but it's not really happening yet or soon. In short: people use up too much data and Verizon doesn't have enough spectrum for that. Back when they started offering unlimited, they were perfectly able to, as they didn't really have as large of a base as they do now. However, that made them more popular, and now with the move to 4G, people will be using more and more data. In short, that leads to Verizon not being able to handle all of that. To remedy this, they moved to tiered data, and now shared data.

Pokelover980 said:
They force the entire family onto the shared data plan. I just got the Razr yesterday, and they put us onto the family shared plan with 6GB of data to share (we have 3 people with smartphones, so 2GB for each of us). This is actually cheaper for us than it was before with me on unlimited and the two others on 2GB plans, AND we get unlimited talk and text.
Also, you should stop using 25-30GB a month. I'm surprised Verizon hasn't severely throttled your data speeds, people like you who hog up so much data are the exact reason why Verizon is trying to force people onto limited and shared data plans. This video goes into detail about why so many carriers are switching to tiered plans. This link talks about how it could be fixed, but it's not really happening yet or soon. In short: people use up too much data and Verizon doesn't have enough spectrum for that. Back when they started offering unlimited, they were perfectly able to, as they didn't really have as large of a base as they do now. However, that made them more popular, and now with the move to 4G, people will be using more and more data. In short, that leads to Verizon not being able to handle all of that. To remedy this, they moved to tiered data, and now shared data.
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I understand what you are saying, but I use my phone as I wish, and as far as the "you people" comment, there are people who use well over 100GB a month. I stream music to and from work every day. I work for the Government, so Slacker.com is blocked at work. I use my phone to stream music at work as well. I download apps here and there, maybe a rom update on occasion, as well as watch netflix on my phone at night. I use my phone as I see fit. I do not feel like I am abusing what I have, nor do I feel like it is people like me who caused Verizon to go this route. Verizon moved to shared and tiered data for one reason and one reason only. The unlimited data business model wasn't making them as much money as they would like. They can and will make more money using this new model. You think one or two hundred, or even thousand people in a given area using 20 gigs of data a month are really "overloading" their spectrum? That is a drop in the hat compared to the hundreds of thousands of people who live in and around the Baltimore/DC metro area alone. The power users make up a very small percentage of the populous.

chrisjm00 said:
I understand what you are saying, but I use my phone as I wish, and as far as the "you people" comment, there are people who use well over 100GB a month. I stream music to and from work every day. I work for the Government, so Slacker.com is blocked at work. I use my phone to stream music at work as well. I download apps here and there, maybe a rom update on occasion, as well as watch netflix on my phone at night. I use my phone as I see fit. I do not feel like I am abusing what I have, nor do I feel like it is people like me who caused Verizon to go this route. Verizon moved to shared and tiered data for one reason and one reason only. The unlimited data business model wasn't making them as much money as they would like. They can and will make more money using this new model. You think one or two hundred, or even thousand people in a given area using 20 gigs of data a month are really "overloading" their spectrum? That is a drop in the hat compared to the hundreds of thousands of people who live in and around the Baltimore/DC metro area alone. The power users make up a very small percentage of the populous.
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I realize that there are people that use far more than you. However, my argument isn't really just about the power users. Verizon wants to restrict them because they use so much, but everyone does contribute. Everyone having unlimited just wasn't working. If they kept unlimited, more and more power users would come along, which is exactly what was happening. Yes, it is about money, because they'd lose plenty of it from running out of spectrum and switching to other carriers, who would as a consequence run out of spectrum as well, and so forth until a solution was found. As a result, the high prices on data now for power users is to try and convince them to use less data. I'm pretty sure this is how they make up for the amounts of money that they're losing for the many people on lower data plans, because as I said, my bill is now lower monthly, and I'm sure it is for plenty of other family plans too.
Also, if you want to use blocked websites at work without using up so much data on your phone, set up a proxy or VPN that runs through your home network while you're at work. Though, thinking about it, you have a government job, so that probably wouldn't work over too well... but if you're already using your phone to get past that, I don't know how far you're willing to go to get it. Just a thought on how to use less data though
EDIT: And sorry if I sound rude at all, I'm trying not to. I'm just one in the minority that supports Verizon's decision to move to the shared data system... Reddit is good at convincing me about things.

I use my phone to stream pandora to and from work every day (1hr each way) and I barely hit 1gb in a month. I tie into the wifi whenever I'm. At work or at home, but still 30gb seems excessive foe streaming music. Just saying. Lol
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PROTIP: Few people readily admit how much porn they watch.
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LOL....30 gb is a lot of porn.
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Your data-gobbling habits & "How much data do you use"

I am curious about what is "a lot" of data to one person compared to another. I have heard 2 GB described as "a lot" of data before, and I have also head 150 GB described as "a lot."
So what is "a lot" to you? How much data in a month do you go through? (Or, since you've owned the phone)
How much do you think is "too much" data to be using in a month?
What do you do that uses a lot of Data? (Downloads, Online Videos/Netflix/Youtube, Tethering?)
What do you do the most on your Sprint phone you feel you couldn't on other providers?
How much data in a month would you go through on a previous Sprint WiMAX phone? (If applicable)
How much data in a month would you go through on a previous non-Sprint smartphone? (If applicable)
How much data in a month would you go through when using a different phone?
Discussion welcome. I think this will be interesting to see from different users' perspectives. Also if anyone has had their account terminated for excessive data on Sprint or any other provider, please pipe in

Kujila said:
I am curious about what is "a lot" of data to one person compared to another. I have heard 2 GB described as "a lot" of data before, and I have also head 150 GB described as "a lot."
So what is "a lot" to you? How much data in a month do you go through? (Or, since you've owned the phone)
How much do you think is "too much" data to be using in a month?
What do you do that uses a lot of Data? (Downloads, Online Videos/Netflix/Youtube, Tethering?)
What do you do the most on your Sprint phone you feel you couldn't on other providers?
How much data in a month would you go through on a previous Sprint WiMAX phone? (If applicable)
How much data in a month would you go through on a previous non-Sprint smartphone? (If applicable)
How much data in a month would you go through when using a different phone?
Discussion welcome. I think this will be interesting to see from different users' perspectives. Also if anyone has had their account terminated for excessive data on Sprint or any other provider, please pipe in
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My Data Average usage is with:
Pandora ( modded ) ~ 11gb/mo
Netflix ~ 4gb/mo
FB, and others 1.5gb/mo
So nearly 17gb is a lot for me

How much do you think is "too much" data to be using in a month?
-2+GB/month
What do you do that uses a lot of Data?
-Google Music,Navigation,Youtube(when im actually in a good svs area,which is never.F YOU SPRINT)
What do you do the most on your Sprint phone you feel you couldn't on other providers?
-Nothing,really close to going to Verizon
How much data in a month would you go through on a previous Sprint WiMAX phone?
-Same because i never turned 4G on because Wimax sucked(980MB/month)
How much data in a month would you go through on a previous non-Sprint smartphone?
-same because their network has been **** for well over 4 years now(980MB/month)
How much data in a month would you go through when using a different phone?
-Same because no matter what phone I had the network was still the same(read above)
I use about 980MB/month

BrianBaker said:
How much do you think is "too much" data to be using in a month?
-2+GB/month
What do you do that uses a lot of Data?
-Google Music,Navigation,Youtube(when im actually in a good svs area,which is never.F YOU SPRINT)
What do you do the most on your Sprint phone you feel you couldn't on other providers?
-Nothing,really close to going to Verizon
How much data in a month would you go through on a previous Sprint WiMAX phone?
-Same because i never turned 4G on because Wimax sucked
How much data in a month would you go through on a previous non-Sprint smartphone?
-same because their network has been **** for well over 4 years now
How much data in a month would you go through when using a different phone?
-Same because no matter what phone I had the network was still the same(read above)
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You seem a littler butthurt that you live in a bad coverage area. Thanks for coming in my thread and contributing though :good:

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You seem a littler butthurt that you live in a bad coverage area. Thanks for coming in my thread and contributing though :good:
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That's the thing...I don't.This is just Sprints network.

Data usage
The last month I had my EVO 3D, I did about 13GB on 4G and 350MB on 3G. I had a lot of podcasts and I have a media server for streaming my recorded TV. I can only imagine that was a regular occurance. I never looked before. I was worried what no 4G would be like. Since I am on the EVO LTE without a network, I am wifi for most of my data now.

So what is "a lot" to you? How much data in a month do you go through? (Or, since you've owned the phone)
How much do you think is "too much" data to be using in a month? 125GB
What do you do that uses a lot of Data? (Downloads, Online Videos/Netflix/Youtube, Tethering?) Netflix, Pandora, tTorrent
What do you do the most on your Sprint phone you feel you couldn't on other providers? Use actual unlimited data
How much data in a month would you go through on a previous Sprint WiMAX phone? (If applicable) This is from this month on my 4G tablet, I have 17 days left in the billing cycle.
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How much data in a month would you go through when using a different phone? I plan on going through about the same amount on my EVO LTE (when I get LTE) that I do with my WiMax tablet.

^Using that much data per month is part of the reason why no one else is unlimited anymore.

I get the whole "Hey man it says Unlimited,yeeeeHaw Bandwidth here I come"
But 40GB/month is abuse.

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^Using that much data per month is part of the reason why no one else is unlimited anymore.
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BrianBaker said:
I get the whole "Hey man it says Unlimited,yeeeeHaw Bandwidth here I come"
But 40GB/month is abuse.
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I've been using ~80GB a month for the past almost 3 years now. That much data usage is honestly nothing. It's not my fault that you people only use your phone once maybe twice a day and listen to maybe one song off of Pandora. I work 10 hour shifts 4 days a week and like to listen to music/have movies playing while I work. It's not my fault that it burns through a decent amount of data.

StormMcCloud said:
I've been using ~80GB a month for the past almost 3 years now. That much data usage is honestly nothing. It's not my fault that you people only use your phone once maybe twice a day and listen to maybe one song off of Pandora. I work 10 hour shifts 4 days a week and like to listen to music/have movies playing while I work. It's not my fault that it burns through a decent amount of data.
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I like this guy haha. 40GB is awesome. I would love to see ATT and Verizon offer this. They can't. That's why Sprint is the best and will be the best as long as they offer unlimited data.

BrianBaker said:
I get the whole "Hey man it says Unlimited,yeeeeHaw Bandwidth here I come"
But 40GB/month is abuse.
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+1
If Sprint wasn't hanging on by a thread already, they would most definitely cap their data. There are more people who abuse the crap out of the network than you think. You can use any excuse you want, it's lame. When Sprint cleans their network up and they can roll with the big boys, we will be capped....and you can thank people who "Stream movies and pandora" all week while at work, but hey, it's not their fault

Kujila said:
I am curious about what is "a lot" of data to one person compared to another. I have heard 2 GB described as "a lot" of data before, and I have also head 150 GB described as "a lot."
So what is "a lot" to you? How much data in a month do you go through? (Or, since you've owned the phone)
How much do you think is "too much" data to be using in a month?
What do you do that uses a lot of Data? (Downloads, Online Videos/Netflix/Youtube, Tethering?)
What do you do the most on your Sprint phone you feel you couldn't on other providers?
How much data in a month would you go through on a previous Sprint WiMAX phone? (If applicable)
How much data in a month would you go through on a previous non-Sprint smartphone? (If applicable)
How much data in a month would you go through when using a different phone?
Discussion welcome. I think this will be interesting to see from different users' perspectives. Also if anyone has had their account terminated for excessive data on Sprint or any other provider, please pipe in
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How much do you think is "too much" data to be using in a month? 30+ if on 3g otherwise if your on wimax then go nuts, no limit from me. (but seriously if you get 100+ then damn, get some sunlight haha)
What do you do that uses a lot of Data? (Downloads, Online Videos/Netflix/Youtube, Tethering?) youtube probably the most don't do much else other than check xda every 5 minutes haha
What do you do the most on your Sprint phone you feel you couldn't on other providers? actually use the internet haha damn them other carriers and their throttling
How much data in a month would you go through on a previous Sprint WiMAX phone? (If applicable) on my og evo i would tether on that slut like it was my day job when anywhere on vacation so if out of town 20gb give or take but thats if im there a whole month. otherwise the same as this phone, maybe 2 just xda, general browsing, and some youtube.
How much data in a month would you go through on a previous non-Sprint smartphone? (If applicable) been with sprint forever
How much data in a month would you go through when using a different phone? like i said above with my og maybe 2gb or 20gb if out of town for forever and a half haha

15gb so far
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Rippley05 said:
+1
If Sprint wasn't hanging on by a thread already, they would most definitely cap their data. There are more people who abuse the crap out of the network than you think. You can use any excuse you want, it's lame. When Sprint cleans their network up and they can roll with the big boys, we will be capped....and you can thank people who "Stream movies and pandora" all week while at work, but hey, it's not their fault
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I don't see why a guy can't stream music at work all day if he wants to. That's like saying you can't use your unlimited texts, you should only send like 100 a month or it is abuse. That's silly. You pay for unlimited, you do what you want.
PS I use less than a gig a month.
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This is my usage since the new cycle started. I use SIP for most calls and ride on WiFi whenever possible.
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PsiPhiDan said:
I don't see why a guy can't stream music at work all day if he wants to. That's like saying you can't use your unlimited texts, you should only send like 100 a month or it is abuse. That's silly. You pay for unlimited, you do what you want.
PS I use less than a gig a month.
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We pay for unlimited but we still have to operate within reason. Sprint may be pushing their unlimited data now, but they may not in the future, and users who abuse the unlimited data plan aren't going to help them make a decision.

PsiPhiDan said:
I don't see why a guy can't stream music at work all day if he wants to. That's like saying you can't use your unlimited texts, you should only send like 100 a month or it is abuse. That's silly. You pay for unlimited, you do what you want.
PS I use less than a gig a month.
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I get that, but texts aren't back loading and taxing the bejesus out of the network either. I mean, 80 gigs in a month when the other carriers are offering like 5gb a month plans? How long do you honestly think sprint will be unlimited with that mess?
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Rippley05 said:
I get that, but texts aren't back loading and taxing the bejesus out of the network either. I mean, 80 gigs in a month when the other carriers are offering like 5gb a month plans? How long do you honestly think sprint will be unlimited with that mess?
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That's like saying I should use as little internet as possible at home as well. No, I'm sorry but I'm giving Sprint $130 a month (Phone and tablet) I should be allowed to use as much 4G data as I want. Limit the 3G use because that is what 99% of people use, sure. But for the amount of money they rake in every month we should be able to use all the 4G we want. End of story.

StormMcCloud said:
That's like saying I should use as little internet as possible at home as well. No, I'm sorry but I'm giving Sprint $130 a month (Phone and tablet) I should be allowed to use as much 4G data as I want. Limit the 3G use because that is what 99% of people use, sure. But for the amount of money they rake in every month we should be able to use all the 4G we want. End of story.
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Lol
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leaving tmobile

I am really sad to be leaving tmobile. Coverage issues in my specific area and lack of speed are causing this. I feel really stupid saying this but I feel like a traitor to be going to at&t. Thanks for the great years TMO:highfive:

Bad move with a heavy downside ..
Plan to pay out the wazooo!
Limited data ,with terrible over priced packages ,,att Lte is within comparable speeds to tmo...
hspa+ it Isnt that much of a difference to make a difference.
You'll be paying over 120+ a month and will never get unlimited... Surely going over 2gigs easily anyone can do that and on top of the base price you pay 10$ for each gig.
Tmobiles spotty coverage is far more worth the hassle than paying more for less .
And as far as tmo coverage ,the aws lte bands when lte is dropped full time everywhere the coverage will greatly greatly improve .... Coverage will be like verizons.
I'd stay if I was you ,att is nothing but corporate snobs who will rip your pockets right off.
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Later-

lojak29 said:
Bad move with a heavy downside ..
Plan to pay out the wazooo!
Limited data ,with terrible over priced packages ,,att Lte is within comparable speeds to tmo...
hspa+ it Isnt that much of a difference to make a difference.
You'll be paying over 120+ a month and will never get unlimited... Surely going over 2gigs easily anyone can do that and on top of the base price you pay 10$ for each gig.
Tmobiles spotty coverage is far more worth the hassle than paying more for less .
And as far as tmo coverage ,the aws lte bands when lte is dropped full time everywhere the coverage will greatly greatly improve .... Coverage will be like verizons.
I'd stay if I was you ,att is nothing but corporate snobs who will rip your pockets right off.
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lojak29 said:
Bad move with a heavy downside ..
Plan to pay out the wazooo!
Limited data ,with terrible over priced packages ,,att Lte is within comparable speeds to tmo...
hspa+ it Isnt that much of a difference to make a difference.
You'll be paying over 120+ a month and will never get unlimited... Surely going over 2gigs easily anyone can do that and on top of the base price you pay 10$ for each gig.
Tmobiles spotty coverage is far more worth the hassle than paying more for less .
And as far as tmo coverage ,the aws lte bands when lte is dropped full time everywhere the coverage will greatly greatly improve .... Coverage will be like verizons.
I'd stay if I was you ,att is nothing but corporate snobs who will rip your pockets right off.
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Preach!

lojak29 said:
Bad move with a heavy downside ..
Plan to pay out the wazooo!
Limited data ,with terrible over priced packages ,,att Lte is within comparable speeds to tmo...
hspa+ it Isnt that much of a difference to make a difference.
You'll be paying over 120+ a month and will never get unlimited... Surely going over 2gigs easily anyone can do that and on top of the base price you pay 10$ for each gig.
Tmobiles spotty coverage is far more worth the hassle than paying more for less .
And as far as tmo coverage ,the aws lte bands when lte is dropped full time everywhere the coverage will greatly greatly improve .... Coverage will be like verizons.
I'd stay if I was you ,att is nothing but corporate snobs who will rip your pockets right off.
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Hallelujah
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lojak29 said:
Bad move with a heavy downside ..
Plan to pay out the wazooo!
Limited data ,with terrible over priced packages ,,att Lte is within comparable speeds to tmo...
hspa+ it Isnt that much of a difference to make a difference.
You'll be paying over 120+ a month and will never get unlimited... Surely going over 2gigs easily anyone can do that and on top of the base price you pay 10$ for each gig.
Tmobiles spotty coverage is far more worth the hassle than paying more for less .
And as far as tmo coverage ,the aws lte bands when lte is dropped full time everywhere the coverage will greatly greatly improve .... Coverage will be like verizons.
I'd stay if I was you ,att is nothing but corporate snobs who will rip your pockets right off.
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True!
I've just moved from AT&T and I'm happy with T-Mobile.
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On, T-mobile I pay $30 a month now for unlimited data (5GB of 4G), unlimited text and 100 min talk. Best plan ever and I can leave whenever I want to. Coverage here in LA is great with 4G everywhere.
AT&T forces you have to a dataplan if you use any kind of smart phone. GF bought a iphone off craiglist and wanted to use it on at&t with just wifi only so that she save money on the dataplan and AT&T will not let her do this. She is REQUIRED to have a dataplan or use the iphone on another network. That's customer service at its best.

initial_k said:
On, T-mobile I pay $30 a month now for unlimited data (5GB of 4G), unlimited text and 100 min talk. Best plan ever and I can leave whenever I want to. Coverage here in LA is great with 4G everywhere.
AT&T forces you have to a dataplan if you use any kind of smart phone. GF bought a iphone off craiglist and wanted to use it on at&t with just wifi only so that she save money on the dataplan and AT&T will not let her do this. She is REQUIRED to have a dataplan or use the iphone on another network. That's customer service at its best.
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What are you still doing with the 5gb $30 cap plan? Tmobile has true unlimited 4g without caps now for $30. It's what my girl and I have right now. The only downside is that you sacrifice hot spot service.
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coupetastic-droid said:
What are you still doing with the 5gb $30 cap plan? Tmobile has true unlimited 4g without caps now for $30. It's what my girl and I have right now. The only downside is that you sacrifice hot spot service.
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I think you misunderstood what was being said. $30 IS the plan. It consists of 5gb of data and 100 minutes. It is offered online and in-store at Wal-Mart.
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jonathan3579 said:
I think you misunderstood what was being said. $30 IS the plan. It consists of 5gb of data and 100 minutes. It is offered online and in-store at Wal-Mart.
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Yea I misunderstood my bad. I thought you meant $30 for just the data.
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jonathan3579 said:
I think you misunderstood what was being said. $30 IS the plan. It consists of 5gb of data and 100 minutes. It is offered online and in-store at Wal-Mart.
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So that is a "classic" plan with a two year commitment, unlike the new TMO plans with no contract?

stevedebi said:
So that is a "classic" plan with a two year commitment, unlike the new TMO plans with no contract?
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No, the $30 plan they're talking about is prepaid, bring your own device and pay by month. Old "classic" and "value" plans as well as new "simple choice" (or whatever the f the branding is now) are all postpaid.

lojak29 said:
Bad move with a heavy downside ..
Plan to pay out the wazooo!
Limited data ,with terrible over priced packages ,,att Lte is within comparable speeds to tmo...
hspa+ it Isnt that much of a difference to make a difference.
You'll be paying over 120+ a month and will never get unlimited... Surely going over 2gigs easily anyone can do that and on top of the base price you pay 10$ for each gig.
Tmobiles spotty coverage is far more worth the hassle than paying more for less .
And as far as tmo coverage ,the aws lte bands when lte is dropped full time everywhere the coverage will greatly greatly improve .... Coverage will be like verizons.
I'd stay if I was you ,att is nothing but corporate snobs who will rip your pockets right off.
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It seems like you guys all agree with this but I'm going to have to disagree. Sure some of AT&T plans could run up to $120 but if pay attention to the plan you can do much better than $120.
$39.99 for National roll over with 450 minutes then you add a data plan starting at $20, then $20 unlimited texting with unlimited mobile to mobile minutes on any carrier. Which basically means you have unlimited minutes cuz most everyones phone call are to another mobile number.
You're looking at $80 if you're not a data a hog. Also it's no competition AT&T's network is far more superior than T Mobile no matter which way you slice it. And to some people that alone is worth the bucks.
I just thought I should chime in
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I disagree... at my house TMO is the only of the big-4 that work well. People with ATT/VZW always say they stick with them for the far better serviced, but I have had TMO for 5 years now and Sprint for the 10 before that, and I have always had better reception than co-workers/friends in MOST situations (each of the 4 have advantages and disadvantages in different areas).
Sprint SERO is the best deal if you want one of the big 4 without VoIP.
T-Mobile $30 is the best thing going if you can live with VoIP calls.
MVNO's like Ting and Solavei are the best choice for most people.

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shook187 said:
It seems like you guys all agree with this but I'm going to have to disagree. Sure some of AT&T plans could run up to $120 but if pay attention to the plan you can do much better than $120.
$39.99 for National roll over with 450 minutes then you add a data plan starting at $20, then $20 unlimited texting with unlimited mobile to mobile minutes on any carrier. Which basically means you have unlimited minutes cuz most everyones phone call are to another mobile number.
You're looking at $80 if you're not a data a hog. Also it's no competition AT&T's network is far more superior than T Mobile no matter which way you slice it. And to some people that alone is worth the bucks.
I just thought I should chime in
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The $20 Data is 300MB, LOL. This is all without tethering too.
So on AT&T for $80 (excluding tax) you get 450 rollover minutes with unlimited mobile to mobile, unlimited text, and 300 MB of data, no tethering.
Mobile share is $85 (excluding tax) for unlimited calling, text, and 1 GB of data with tethering.
On T-Mobile $50 (excluding tax) gets you unlimited calling, text and 500 MB of data with tethering, and free Wi-Fi calling.
For $70 (excluding tax) you get unlimited calling, text and data plus 500 MB of tethering, and free Wi-Fi calling.

SmiLey497 said:
On T-Mobile $50 (excluding tax) gets you unlimited calling, text and 500 MB of data with tethering, and free Wi-Fi calling.
For $70 (excluding tax) you get unlimited calling, text and data plus 500 MB of tethering, and free Wi-Fi calling.
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You get all that from a subpar Network with horrible building penetration. Which is why T Mobile even offers wifi calling in the first place.
No thanks I'll pay the extra $20 for a real network.
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guys.. chill. network depends on what area you use you phone. Some areas, ATT is better. Also, their is good prepaids that use ATT's network.

shook187 said:
You get all that from a subpar Network with horrible building penetration. Which is why T Mobile even offers wifi calling in the first place.
No thanks I'll pay the extra $20 for a real network.
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I have no problem with T-Mobile service or coverage here in LA.

Ditching Sprint, is TMobile Any Better?

Okay so I used to be a T-Mobile user, HTC G2. Then my sister got a new job with a sprint employee discount, and our contract ended... so we switched, now I'm on Sprint with a Photon Q.
HATE IT. TERRIBLE speeds. Unlimited Everything sounded great, but wow I've never gone over 500MB/month due to the slow speeds. No matter how hard I try. Seriously.
From what I remember, T-Mobile service was pretty decent in NYC. Not amazingly quick, but good enough. And kinda spotting in buildings (but still got 3G-ish speeds I think).
So I need some help here. How is T-Mobile now? I know NYC doesnt have LTE yet. But the T-Mo HTC One works with their AWS HSPA+ right?
How is it in Newark NJ, any experiences?
Indoors?
How is tethering on the phone. I mainly want to tether to my Nexus 7 and I'm unsure about what I'm reading in these plan details...
Can I get around the 500MB tethering limit if I tether via bluetooth or use custom firmware?
When I had my G2 (about a year ago now), I tethered to my laptop and used a browser-agent changer plugin to bypass T-Mobile's tethering checks >.>
Lots of questions here, sorry. Just trying to make sure I make the right choice.
I would have to pay $350 early termination and $150 (after tax) for the phone if I were to switch over.
Oh also, any chance we can get a cheaper plan? I know T-Mobile has a $30/month prepaid plan, 100 minutes and unlimited text/data. Dont suppose I could get that with the phone on monthly payments right lol.
Thanks!

TrueYears said:
Sprint LTE should be better if they ever arrive but I get decent speeds here in Oregon with T-Mobile and the west side has the least coverage.
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Yea thats what I keep telling myself. But they did finally deploy LTE in an area near me... Barely worked. And I constantly got dropped calls, calls not coming through at all, missing texts, etc. Had to force LTE to stay off so I could actually use my phone.
I was sitting in Citibank making changes to my account. The customer service rep had to call me back on my own cellphone to verify my identity, so I sat there staring at my phone with 5 bars of LTE. No call. 5 mins later, I decide to turn off LTE, and call comes through. The woman said she kept calling but getting sent straight to voice mail =.=
I dont have much hope for them.. sigh.
And I just dont like the idea that I'm paying them monthly for basically no service.

in my area tmo is way better i average 15-18 download 6-10 upload my friend who has sprint 1-3 download less than 1 upload

Yeah, do what that poster said, buy a T-Mobile Sim, and do the 30 a month prepaid and ask a friend or someone to lend you their phone and try it out. that what I would do actually, I had a friend who was with Sprint here in Oregon and was getting awful speed. He liked them because of the whole unlimited internet but i told him that having a capped data of 5gb a month that works is better than having unlimited data that doesnt work

Glad to hear Tmo is better than Sprint for you skinsfan, gives me some more hope.
And Wayne, True, not sure why I didnt think of that.. lol I guess I could just use my old G2 for a few days and try it out. Although I cant remember if my G2 has HSPA+... hm.
EDIT: Would still like to hear more opinions though. Switching over would be expensive enough as it is, if I can just be reassured more by other members, I think thats enough to convince me to switch over.
From what I've heard so far, from my friends, its definitely not as bad as Sprint. Whether its as good as ATT/Verizon is arguable. I know those two are definitely better when out of metropolitan areas. And Verizon is best for being in buildings/underground due to their use of the 700mhz band.
Any one have any idea how tethering really works with the unlimited 4G plan?

Nippero said:
Glad to hear Tmo is better than Sprint for you skinsfan, gives me some more hope.
And Wayne, True, not sure why I didnt think of that.. lol I guess I could just use my old G2 for a few days and try it out. Although I cant remember if my G2 has HSPA+... hm.
EDIT: Would still like to hear more opinions though. Switching over would be expensive enough as it is, if I can just be reassured more by other members, I think thats enough to convince me to switch over.
From what I've heard so far, from my friends, its definitely not as bad as Sprint. Whether its as good as ATT/Verizon is arguable. I know those two are definitely better when out of metropolitan areas. And Verizon is best for being in buildings/underground due to their use of the 700mhz band.
Any one have any idea how tethering really works with the unlimited 4G plan?
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you have to pay extra for it unless your on a custom rom with the unlocked tethering mod but tethering is free with the 2.5 gb 4glte plan i have

nice, so it sounds like they havent changed their tethering policies since I last used them.
Had to run CM on my old HTC G2 in order to tether to my tablet/laptop and not pay for their hotspot service.
Tethering is incredibly important to me.. mainly since my office doesnt allow WiFi for unauthorized personal devices (security issues) =.=

Just to clarify, tethering is unlimited on all data plans on Tmobile except for unlimited which has a 500mb cap. However all plans are actually unlimited data, the data cap is for full speed.
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Cor-master said:
Just to clarify, tethering is unlimited on all data plans on Tmobile except for unlimited which has a 500mb cap. However all plans are actually unlimited data, the data cap is for full speed.
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Hmm.. So let me make sure I get this right.
If you have the 500MB or 2.5GB Data Plan, you have full speed tethering/data until you hit your limit, then you can continue to tether/use data at 2G speeds.
If you have the unlimited plan, you have full speed on your phone always, but tethering is limited to 500MB. Once you hit the 500, do they just block you from tethering? Or can you continue to tether at limited speeds?

Nippero said:
Hmm.. So let me make sure I get this right.
If you have the 500MB or 2.5GB Data Plan, you have full speed tethering/data until you hit your limit, then you can continue to tether/use data at 2G speeds.
If you have the unlimited plan, you have full speed on your phone always, but tethering is limited to 500MB. Once you hit the 500, do they just block you from tethering? Or can you continue to tether at limited speeds?
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I believe that's correct but I dunno what happens when you hit your cap. I'm not actually on Tmobile, I'm on at&t but me and my wife both have nexus 4s and it's actually cheaper for me to switch not and eat my etf rather than wait till the end of my contract so I've been heavily researching it. I really want unlimited data so I can use google play music without worrying about hitting my cap within a week
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Nippero said:
nice, so it sounds like they havent changed their tethering policies since I last used them.
Had to run CM on my old HTC G2 in order to tether to my tablet/laptop and not pay for their hotspot service.
Tethering is incredibly important to me.. mainly since my office doesnt allow WiFi for unauthorized personal devices (security issues) =.=
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yea but most of the sense based roms have included it on the international forum so no need to have aosp for free tethering anymore

Ohh soo tempting to just switch asap.
Thanks for the help guys.
I would miss my QWERTY keyboard on this Photon Q though. Its basically the one and only redeeming feature >.> lol
How is typing on the HTC One? I was never able to really get used to swype on my phone :|
Wonder if I can restrict myself to screen typing only with my current phone, so I can get used to it.

i have both sprint and tmobile... tmobile is much better as for as 4g speeds.. it keeps up with verizon and att lte sprint doesnt keep up for anything.. tmobile is building their lte and should launch this summer in newark nj.. i have an apt in newark and central jersey.

Nippero said:
Okay so I used to be a T-Mobile user, HTC G2. Then my sister got a new job with a sprint employee discount, and our contract ended... so we switched, now I'm on Sprint with a Photon Q.
HATE IT. TERRIBLE speeds. Unlimited Everything sounded great, but wow I've never gone over 500MB/month due to the slow speeds. No matter how hard I try. Seriously.
From what I remember, T-Mobile service was pretty decent in NYC. Not amazingly quick, but good enough. And kinda spotting in buildings (but still got 3G-ish speeds I think).
So I need some help here. How is T-Mobile now? I know NYC doesnt have LTE yet. But the T-Mo HTC One works with their AWS HSPA+ right?
How is it in Newark NJ, any experiences?
Indoors?
How is tethering on the phone. I mainly want to tether to my Nexus 7 and I'm unsure about what I'm reading in these plan details...
Can I get around the 500MB tethering limit if I tether via bluetooth or use custom firmware?
When I had my G2 (about a year ago now), I tethered to my laptop and used a browser-agent changer plugin to bypass T-Mobile's tethering checks >.>
Lots of questions here, sorry. Just trying to make sure I make the right choice.
I would have to pay $350 early termination and $150 (after tax) for the phone if I were to switch over.
Oh also, any chance we can get a cheaper plan? I know T-Mobile has a $30/month prepaid plan, 100 minutes and unlimited text/data. Dont suppose I could get that with the phone on monthly payments right lol.
Thanks!
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Well, I'm in the Phoenix market, but I'll give you my experience as I switched from Sprint to T-Mobile. Being in the 5th largest market with no 4G coverage since I joined Sprint in Sep 2010 has been frustrating. This is mainly what led me to leave them. As you mentioned, unlimited data isn't worth much of anything if you can't get data at a decent speed. Kinda like being in a chugging contest with a straw! Anyway, I've had T-Mobile for about a week now and it is so nice to be able to use your phone to look information up or browse the web. I envisioned myself doing that when I joined Sprint, but never used my phone for those type of activities due to the speed limitations. Now, I have occasional LTE, but mostly 4G as I run around the Valley here. The 4G is way faster than anything I experienced at Sprint. Again, I don't know how the NY market is shaking out. One other reason for me to switch to T-Mobile, believe it or not, was price.
I'm a face to face kind of guy, so I went to a T-Mobile store. I told the T-Mobile rep that I was going to have to get out of Sprint ($80.08/month) and had a early termination fee of $160 (contract ends in Feb 2014). He said that he could apply a $100 credit to my next billing period to help on that front. Also, depending on the sales guy you get, ask for a percentage discount. I got an 18% discount on my bill (your mileage may vary, depending on how the rep wants to stretch). Anyway, tax/title/tags out the door with a monthly bill of $62.45 for unlimited everything!
I'm going to switch my wife from Verizon (17% discount from work and 2GB/month paying $97.18/month) and get her unlimited everything added to my T-Mobile acct. Our bill will be $107/month. With her Verizon and my Sprint bill every month, we were paying $177/month. Love saving me $70/month to spend elsewhere!
Good luck and don't be afraid to ask for credit for ETF and a percentage discount.

asheikh90 said:
i have both sprint and tmobile... tmobile is much better as for as 4g speeds.. it keeps up with verizon and att lte sprint doesnt keep up for anything.. tmobile is building their lte and should launch this summer in newark nj.. i have an apt in newark and central jersey.
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Thanks! My office is in Newark, so I definitely want to have good service out here lol.
I Like Soup said:
Well, I'm in the Phoenix market, but I'll give you my experience as I switched from Sprint to T-Mobile. Being in the 5th largest market with no 4G coverage since I joined Sprint in Sep 2010 has been frustrating. This is mainly what led me to leave them. As you mentioned, unlimited data isn't worth much of anything if you can't get data at a decent speed. Kinda like being in a chugging contest with a straw! Anyway, I've had T-Mobile for about a week now and it is so nice to be able to use your phone to look information up or browse the web. I envisioned myself doing that when I joined Sprint, but never used my phone for those type of activities due to the speed limitations. Now, I have occasional LTE, but mostly 4G as I run around the Valley here. The 4G is way faster than anything I experienced at Sprint. Again, I don't know how the NY market is shaking out. One other reason for me to switch to T-Mobile, believe it or not, was price.
I'm a face to face kind of guy, so I went to a T-Mobile store. I told the T-Mobile rep that I was going to have to get out of Sprint ($80.08/month) and had a early termination fee of $160 (contract ends in Feb 2014). He said that he could apply a $100 credit to my next billing period to help on that front. Also, depending on the sales guy you get, ask for a percentage discount. I got an 18% discount on my bill (your mileage may vary, depending on how the rep wants to stretch). Anyway, tax/title/tags out the door with a monthly bill of $62.45 for unlimited everything!
I'm going to switch my wife from Verizon (17% discount from work and 2GB/month paying $97.18/month) and get her unlimited everything added to my T-Mobile acct. Our bill will be $107/month. With her Verizon and my Sprint bill every month, we were paying $177/month. Love saving me $70/month to spend elsewhere!
Good luck and don't be afraid to ask for credit for ETF and a percentage discount.
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Oooh interesting... I called them up last week and asked if they could help me out in any way since my ETF would be hefty ($350.. ugh) but the guy on the phone said there was nothing he could do.
I'll try going into an actual store later today.
Question, did you go to a corporate store (big fancy ones) or one of the smaller authorized dealers?

Nippero said:
Thanks! My office is in Newark, so I definitely want to have good service out here lol.
Oooh interesting... I called them up last week and asked if they could help me out in any way since my ETF would be hefty ($350.. ugh) but the guy on the phone said there was nothing he could do.
I'll try going into an actual store later today.
Question, did you go to a corporate store (big fancy ones) or one of the smaller authorized dealers?
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Hey Nip, I went to a corporate store. Hell, if you wanna try, I'll give you the guys name/number. Maybe he can set you up outside your state and ship it to you!

I Like Soup said:
Hey Nip, I went to a corporate store. Hell, if you wanna try, I'll give you the guys name/number. Maybe he can set you up outside your state and ship it to you!
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that would be great, thanks!

Actually guys I switched from unlimited 3G/text and I think it was 900 shared min at sprint and hopped on T-Mobile with unlimited 4G LTE/text and 1000 shared min. I pay $150 a month, but only because were paying off our phones(I have the HTC One and she has the GS4). I haven't regretted it one bit. Also since LA got lit up with LTE its been awesome.
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