I am curious about what is "a lot" of data to one person compared to another. I have heard 2 GB described as "a lot" of data before, and I have also head 150 GB described as "a lot."
So what is "a lot" to you? How much data in a month do you go through? (Or, since you've owned the phone)
How much do you think is "too much" data to be using in a month?
What do you do that uses a lot of Data? (Downloads, Online Videos/Netflix/Youtube, Tethering?)
What do you do the most on your Sprint phone you feel you couldn't on other providers?
How much data in a month would you go through on a previous Sprint WiMAX phone? (If applicable)
How much data in a month would you go through on a previous non-Sprint smartphone? (If applicable)
How much data in a month would you go through when using a different phone?
Discussion welcome. I think this will be interesting to see from different users' perspectives. Also if anyone has had their account terminated for excessive data on Sprint or any other provider, please pipe in
Kujila said:
I am curious about what is "a lot" of data to one person compared to another. I have heard 2 GB described as "a lot" of data before, and I have also head 150 GB described as "a lot."
So what is "a lot" to you? How much data in a month do you go through? (Or, since you've owned the phone)
How much do you think is "too much" data to be using in a month?
What do you do that uses a lot of Data? (Downloads, Online Videos/Netflix/Youtube, Tethering?)
What do you do the most on your Sprint phone you feel you couldn't on other providers?
How much data in a month would you go through on a previous Sprint WiMAX phone? (If applicable)
How much data in a month would you go through on a previous non-Sprint smartphone? (If applicable)
How much data in a month would you go through when using a different phone?
Discussion welcome. I think this will be interesting to see from different users' perspectives. Also if anyone has had their account terminated for excessive data on Sprint or any other provider, please pipe in
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My Data Average usage is with:
Pandora ( modded ) ~ 11gb/mo
Netflix ~ 4gb/mo
FB, and others 1.5gb/mo
So nearly 17gb is a lot for me
How much do you think is "too much" data to be using in a month?
-2+GB/month
What do you do that uses a lot of Data?
-Google Music,Navigation,Youtube(when im actually in a good svs area,which is never.F YOU SPRINT)
What do you do the most on your Sprint phone you feel you couldn't on other providers?
-Nothing,really close to going to Verizon
How much data in a month would you go through on a previous Sprint WiMAX phone?
-Same because i never turned 4G on because Wimax sucked(980MB/month)
How much data in a month would you go through on a previous non-Sprint smartphone?
-same because their network has been **** for well over 4 years now(980MB/month)
How much data in a month would you go through when using a different phone?
-Same because no matter what phone I had the network was still the same(read above)
I use about 980MB/month
BrianBaker said:
How much do you think is "too much" data to be using in a month?
-2+GB/month
What do you do that uses a lot of Data?
-Google Music,Navigation,Youtube(when im actually in a good svs area,which is never.F YOU SPRINT)
What do you do the most on your Sprint phone you feel you couldn't on other providers?
-Nothing,really close to going to Verizon
How much data in a month would you go through on a previous Sprint WiMAX phone?
-Same because i never turned 4G on because Wimax sucked
How much data in a month would you go through on a previous non-Sprint smartphone?
-same because their network has been **** for well over 4 years now
How much data in a month would you go through when using a different phone?
-Same because no matter what phone I had the network was still the same(read above)
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You seem a littler butthurt that you live in a bad coverage area. Thanks for coming in my thread and contributing though :good:
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You seem a littler butthurt that you live in a bad coverage area. Thanks for coming in my thread and contributing though :good:
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That's the thing...I don't.This is just Sprints network.
Data usage
The last month I had my EVO 3D, I did about 13GB on 4G and 350MB on 3G. I had a lot of podcasts and I have a media server for streaming my recorded TV. I can only imagine that was a regular occurance. I never looked before. I was worried what no 4G would be like. Since I am on the EVO LTE without a network, I am wifi for most of my data now.
So what is "a lot" to you? How much data in a month do you go through? (Or, since you've owned the phone)
How much do you think is "too much" data to be using in a month? 125GB
What do you do that uses a lot of Data? (Downloads, Online Videos/Netflix/Youtube, Tethering?) Netflix, Pandora, tTorrent
What do you do the most on your Sprint phone you feel you couldn't on other providers? Use actual unlimited data
How much data in a month would you go through on a previous Sprint WiMAX phone? (If applicable) This is from this month on my 4G tablet, I have 17 days left in the billing cycle.
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How much data in a month would you go through when using a different phone? I plan on going through about the same amount on my EVO LTE (when I get LTE) that I do with my WiMax tablet.
^Using that much data per month is part of the reason why no one else is unlimited anymore.
I get the whole "Hey man it says Unlimited,yeeeeHaw Bandwidth here I come"
But 40GB/month is abuse.
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^Using that much data per month is part of the reason why no one else is unlimited anymore.
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BrianBaker said:
I get the whole "Hey man it says Unlimited,yeeeeHaw Bandwidth here I come"
But 40GB/month is abuse.
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I've been using ~80GB a month for the past almost 3 years now. That much data usage is honestly nothing. It's not my fault that you people only use your phone once maybe twice a day and listen to maybe one song off of Pandora. I work 10 hour shifts 4 days a week and like to listen to music/have movies playing while I work. It's not my fault that it burns through a decent amount of data.
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I've been using ~80GB a month for the past almost 3 years now. That much data usage is honestly nothing. It's not my fault that you people only use your phone once maybe twice a day and listen to maybe one song off of Pandora. I work 10 hour shifts 4 days a week and like to listen to music/have movies playing while I work. It's not my fault that it burns through a decent amount of data.
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I like this guy haha. 40GB is awesome. I would love to see ATT and Verizon offer this. They can't. That's why Sprint is the best and will be the best as long as they offer unlimited data.
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I get the whole "Hey man it says Unlimited,yeeeeHaw Bandwidth here I come"
But 40GB/month is abuse.
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+1
If Sprint wasn't hanging on by a thread already, they would most definitely cap their data. There are more people who abuse the crap out of the network than you think. You can use any excuse you want, it's lame. When Sprint cleans their network up and they can roll with the big boys, we will be capped....and you can thank people who "Stream movies and pandora" all week while at work, but hey, it's not their fault
Kujila said:
I am curious about what is "a lot" of data to one person compared to another. I have heard 2 GB described as "a lot" of data before, and I have also head 150 GB described as "a lot."
So what is "a lot" to you? How much data in a month do you go through? (Or, since you've owned the phone)
How much do you think is "too much" data to be using in a month?
What do you do that uses a lot of Data? (Downloads, Online Videos/Netflix/Youtube, Tethering?)
What do you do the most on your Sprint phone you feel you couldn't on other providers?
How much data in a month would you go through on a previous Sprint WiMAX phone? (If applicable)
How much data in a month would you go through on a previous non-Sprint smartphone? (If applicable)
How much data in a month would you go through when using a different phone?
Discussion welcome. I think this will be interesting to see from different users' perspectives. Also if anyone has had their account terminated for excessive data on Sprint or any other provider, please pipe in
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How much do you think is "too much" data to be using in a month? 30+ if on 3g otherwise if your on wimax then go nuts, no limit from me. (but seriously if you get 100+ then damn, get some sunlight haha)
What do you do that uses a lot of Data? (Downloads, Online Videos/Netflix/Youtube, Tethering?) youtube probably the most don't do much else other than check xda every 5 minutes haha
What do you do the most on your Sprint phone you feel you couldn't on other providers? actually use the internet haha damn them other carriers and their throttling
How much data in a month would you go through on a previous Sprint WiMAX phone? (If applicable) on my og evo i would tether on that slut like it was my day job when anywhere on vacation so if out of town 20gb give or take but thats if im there a whole month. otherwise the same as this phone, maybe 2 just xda, general browsing, and some youtube.
How much data in a month would you go through on a previous non-Sprint smartphone? (If applicable) been with sprint forever
How much data in a month would you go through when using a different phone? like i said above with my og maybe 2gb or 20gb if out of town for forever and a half haha
15gb so far
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Rippley05 said:
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If Sprint wasn't hanging on by a thread already, they would most definitely cap their data. There are more people who abuse the crap out of the network than you think. You can use any excuse you want, it's lame. When Sprint cleans their network up and they can roll with the big boys, we will be capped....and you can thank people who "Stream movies and pandora" all week while at work, but hey, it's not their fault
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I don't see why a guy can't stream music at work all day if he wants to. That's like saying you can't use your unlimited texts, you should only send like 100 a month or it is abuse. That's silly. You pay for unlimited, you do what you want.
PS I use less than a gig a month.
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PsiPhiDan said:
I don't see why a guy can't stream music at work all day if he wants to. That's like saying you can't use your unlimited texts, you should only send like 100 a month or it is abuse. That's silly. You pay for unlimited, you do what you want.
PS I use less than a gig a month.
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We pay for unlimited but we still have to operate within reason. Sprint may be pushing their unlimited data now, but they may not in the future, and users who abuse the unlimited data plan aren't going to help them make a decision.
PsiPhiDan said:
I don't see why a guy can't stream music at work all day if he wants to. That's like saying you can't use your unlimited texts, you should only send like 100 a month or it is abuse. That's silly. You pay for unlimited, you do what you want.
PS I use less than a gig a month.
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I get that, but texts aren't back loading and taxing the bejesus out of the network either. I mean, 80 gigs in a month when the other carriers are offering like 5gb a month plans? How long do you honestly think sprint will be unlimited with that mess?
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Rippley05 said:
I get that, but texts aren't back loading and taxing the bejesus out of the network either. I mean, 80 gigs in a month when the other carriers are offering like 5gb a month plans? How long do you honestly think sprint will be unlimited with that mess?
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That's like saying I should use as little internet as possible at home as well. No, I'm sorry but I'm giving Sprint $130 a month (Phone and tablet) I should be allowed to use as much 4G data as I want. Limit the 3G use because that is what 99% of people use, sure. But for the amount of money they rake in every month we should be able to use all the 4G we want. End of story.
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That's like saying I should use as little internet as possible at home as well. No, I'm sorry but I'm giving Sprint $130 a month (Phone and tablet) I should be allowed to use as much 4G data as I want. Limit the 3G use because that is what 99% of people use, sure. But for the amount of money they rake in every month we should be able to use all the 4G we want. End of story.
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Lol
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In order to gain access to the developer threads I thought I would postulate a question here.
Some background that lead to this question was the rumor mill around Big Red sniffing out Rooted users that tether.
I checked my data usage online and was able to pull up the file size of all internet transactions over the air. I could assume that if I was to tether the PS3 or used my laptop to download some HD movies or something it may be a red flag to see like a 6 or 8 gig file. Also, with a tethered laptop there would be other things running in the background that may point to non cell usage. Not to mention probably a lot more data consumption in general if multiple sources are sharing the connection at the same time.
Now, say I was tethering my CM7 nook. Would not the data in both size and format be the same as the Thunderbolt. Is there even a way for the powers that be to tell that is is not the Thunderbolt. Maybe someone could shed some light on this as it is one of the questions that I have.
AdamT.
I use 5ish gbs on my phone only no tethering. Just saying.
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I am at about 3 gig with about 10 days to go, and have not tethered anything to my phone. What I am guessing is that a red flag would be a 3 gig file in one download. In my Verizon it lists the size of all your downloaded files. My question is more about the type of data requested/sent from a tethered android tab vs a laptop.
If they can keep track of the size of the download you can assume that they can tell the type of the file.
Bear in mind that these are the ramblings of a paranoid dude. Sorry if my question is as clelar as mud.
AdamT
Tethering is free. Use it as much as you want. They are using us to determine how much data can one pull with a 4G device.
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Tethering is free. Use it as much as you want. They are using us to determine how much data can one pull with a 4G device.
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So, I win if I can get the most?, Challenge accepted!
Also this is coming from one of the most data heavy users you can find (I've been known to pull 20+ gs ) If they could tell I would have been F'd months ago
So 4g tethering is free?
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So, I win if I can get the most?, Challenge accepted!
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I'm just saying...
A knowledgeable big red employee told me today that they have been tracking the top 5% of data users and "something" was about to come down. I don't tether so I didn't dig for any more info.
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I just wonder how much data the top 5% is using. Are we talking 100Gb, or would the top 5% be down to say 15 Gb.
Again, my original question still remains. Can they tell what kind of data you are using?
It does beg the question though, was free 4G tether a stress test on the new network, or a baseline for data consumption with tethered users?
Adamt.
It doesn't make any sense for some big red smackdown to be imminent. they are giving every thunderbolt owner free unlimited 4g (phone or tethering to any device, it doesn't matter). your packets go through verizon's servers so of course they can analyze all data. they could sniff/analyze the packets and steal your passwords or any other data if they wanted to, just like any other company can like comcast/sprint/att. but do they really care? i highly doubt it. why would they start throttling users without warning? what will happen is on may 15th they will announce whether or not we early adapters get to keep "unlimited" 4g. now its truly unlimited, but i would bet in the future they will have some fine print about a ___ GB limit. you are not going to get in trouble, and yes they could definitely/easily track if your hotspot app is running or not by various methods of network analysis. rooted phones are more of a gray area, but as amazing as LTE is compared to wimax, I'd gladly pay for the hotspot.
so basically... don't worry, wait and see what the rules are in may.
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I was talking to a friend that works at a verizon call center, talking about whether or not to get the thunderbolt. she said 3 things-don't get the thunderbolt cuz we don't have 4g, wait for the bionic cuz its bad ass, and she heard a rumor about data packages for the thunderbolt going up to $45 a month.
maybe the rise in price has to do with it?
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She said, "The TB has no 4g"? Or Verizon has no 4g?
QUOTE=jordanzink;12763474]I was talking to a friend that works at a verizon call center, talking about whether or not to get the thunderbolt. she said 3 things-don't get the thunderbolt cuz we don't have 4g, wait for the bionic cuz its bad ass, and she heard a rumor about data packages for the thunderbolt going up to $45 a month.
maybe the rise in price has to do with it?
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I was talking to a friend that works at a verizon call center, talking about whether or not to get the thunderbolt. she said 3 things-don't get the thunderbolt cuz we don't have 4g, wait for the bionic cuz its bad ass, and she heard a rumor about data packages for the thunderbolt going up to $45 a month.
maybe the rise in price has to do with it?
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No offense, but your friend doesn't seem to have thought out what she said very well. They aren't going to up data plan prices on those that already have contracts. They could yes, but you can bail on your contract without paying termination fees if they do so as well. Also, since the bionic will have LTE data (even if you don't use it), you will be stuck in the same contract as any of those that have the TB and if by chance they do raise prices and do so before you have the contract, you'll be paying the higher priced data plan.
Also, the bionic is similar to the atrix, just as the thunderbolt is similar to the inspire and other than the 2 core cpu, which will be more of a hindrance to performance for quite a while than improvement and the hdmi abilities, they dont have hugely contrasting specs. Well, other than moto blur, which is a shoddy piece of software and the locked bootloader that has about as much of a chance of being unlocked as you do winning a multi-million dollar lottery .
Reading threads like these helps me confirm why I think most people are idiots...
I will be moving from a "talk" phone to a new TB or ?? in the next week so I have been reading and trying to figure it all out for the past 2 weeks now.
A quick question...assuming I get the Thunderbolt.
I will purchase the unlimited talk plan from Verizon, then add the $30 unlimited data plan. If I root my phone (plan to do) then do or will I need to also purchase the hotspot ($20) service from Verizon as well?
If I read things correctly, all I need is the unlimited talk and data plans ($99) and I am good to go. I can then use my phone to connect my laptop to the internet and surf on it when I need to. Is this correct?
Thanks
wrb123 said:
It doesn't make any sense for some big red smackdown to be imminent. they are giving every thunderbolt owner free unlimited 4g (phone or tethering to any device, it doesn't matter). your packets go through verizon's servers so of course they can analyze all data. they could sniff/analyze the packets and steal your passwords or any other data if they wanted to, just like any other company can like comcast/sprint/att. but do they really care? i highly doubt it. why would they start throttling users without warning? what will happen is on may 15th they will announce whether or not we early adapters get to keep "unlimited" 4g. now its truly unlimited, but i would bet in the future they will have some fine print about a ___ GB limit. you are not going to get in trouble, and yes they could definitely/easily track if your hotspot app is running or not by various methods of network analysis. rooted phones are more of a gray area, but as amazing as LTE is compared to wimax, I'd gladly pay for the hotspot.
so basically... don't worry, wait and see what the rules are in may.
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I have this thing called a contract with Verizon. It's for two years. Big red doesn't get to decide if I get to keep my unlimited 4G on May 15th. If they send me a text message on the 15th saying my 4G plan is now changed, I get out of my contract without an ETF and go about my business.
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jordanzink said:
I was talking to a friend that works at a verizon call center, talking about whether or not to get the thunderbolt. she said 3 things-don't get the thunderbolt cuz we don't have 4g, wait for the bionic cuz its bad ass, and she heard a rumor about data packages for the thunderbolt going up to $45 a month.
maybe the rise in price has to do with it?
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Sadly, no offense to your friend, but they would appear to know about as much as everyone else in VZW's call centers when it comes to things not read off their support terminal, which is to say exceedingly little, and nothing to be trusted.
Now while it is possible VZW decides to raise their LTE data plan prices for new customers they will not raise the prices on existing customers while they are in contract. Reason being doing so constitutes a breech of contract on their part which means you can legally break your contract without penalty. A contract is a two way street. You agree to pay $X per month for a set length of time (24 months in this case) and in exchange VZW agrees to provide you services as lined out in the contract for the duration of said contract. If any party performs an action that is in violation of that contract then said contract can be considered null and void and depending on which party caused said contract to be nullified the breech could be subject to any liquidated damages stipulated in said contract (read ETF's).
Now back to your regularly scheduled insanity...
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Reading threads like these helps me confirm why I think most people are idiots...
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Agreed. 100%. Reading some of these threads make me paranoid as well.
Though I do have to wonder. If I were to tether my TB to my Eye-Fi SD card to upload photos, whether they would notice, care or know. Idears?
The fine print for when I ordered my TB says that tethering is free until May 15th, 2011. It's a "trial".
In my opinion, I think Sprint should do a 10GB or 5GB data cap before throttling.
Why?
We will NEVER have decent speeds due to thousands of people abusing the "Unlimited"
If there was a cap, the people that are using their phones for home internet and torrenting using well over 30GB of data a month and they got throttled it would help the network A LOT!
Most of us dont even use more than 5 Gigs a month anyways.
The whole unlimited thing just isn't realistic
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In my opinion, I think Sprint should do a 10GB or 5GB data cap before throttling.
Why?
We will NEVER have decent speeds due to thousands of people abusing the "Unlimited"
If there was a cap, the people that are using their phones for home internet and torrenting using well over 30GB of data a month and they got throttled it would help the network A LOT!
Most of us dont even use more than 5 Gigs a month anyways.
The whole unlimited thing just isn't realistic
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I'm actually starting to think the same, I'm tired of having to be dealing with horrible internet speeds due to people who constantly brag about torrenting/downloading/tethering 10GB's+ a month, if they are so desperate they should just pay for home internet.
Yeah, having a data cap of 10Gigs or even 5 wouldnt be a problem. There is NO way we could use that much data unless we are torrenting or doing something ridiculous. Plus, we would have WAY better speeds
10 I'd be ok with 5 not so much
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I Completely Disagree
If you want a data cap go to Verizon and pay for the more decent speeds, If you want to be throttled go to T-Mobile. Sprint is marketing its unlimited data which brings it its customers. I agree that people are using too much but to each his own since they paid for Unlimited
Let the flaming begin
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10 I'd be ok with 5 not so much
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Yeah I could handle 10GB when I was with tmobile i use 5+ in under 2weeks
Now I average 7-11GB
No torrents or teathering
Just YouTube and email/web browsing
My question to the OP and anyone who thinks this is a good idea... "have YOU ever been throttled?
It sucks and I've had it stick for a few months in a row with tmobile... They gave me some nice credits but it was garbage that they couldn't even fix/turn it off when it should be...
Time will come when Sprint will have throttled/tiered data... But not any time this year or first quarter so I'm good (contract ends in June)
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I am going to agree, tiered data plans are the only way we will ever see good speeds. The unlimited can stay but not at current pricing. You are completely right, because the people that abuse it are the ones too cheap to get separate internet plans for home and mobile. They are the ones destroying our speeds. At the same time, some of the problem is sprints network equipment, but when you can do a speed test and see higher upload speeds than download, that is a symptom of capacity, too many people using the download stream at the same time.
I do agree. Capping data would be great because
-It will stop people from using it as their primary connection
-It will make more people go on WiFi when they are at their homes
-People will stop using data like crazy
If they do cap it, it should be reasonable like 3-5GB cap or if you have 2+ people (family plan) 8-10GB cap. This will actually help data speeds a lot. Remember how you got 2000 kb/s that time at 3am in the morning? Data will basically be that fast all the time.
Well I'm a hoger but I also like a cap so it can make me stop using so much even if I try to use a bit I go over so I'm trying to cut back so other can have 3g I do have 4g and lately this month I've been using it more thoe
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or the best way to have fast 3g all of us is sprint to add evdo rev b and advance to it 4g so we can use to but we know sprint is stupid and follow the blue and red haters
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I'm pretty sure it would suck just as bad with a data cap...
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I'm pretty sure it would suck just as bad with a data cap...
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exactly. their slow data has more to due to congestion (in terms of amount of people) than people abusing the unlimited data. remember, every one had unlimited data 1.5 years ago and did not have these speed issues you see on sprint.
Sounds good to me.
But I really wish that USA had a GSM dominated cellular market. HSPA+ is just sooo much better than 3G on Sprint...The one thing I really like about ATT and T-MO.
As long as Sprint continues to offer unconditional unlimited data people will use it to the maximum capacity. That is the nature of anything unlimited. As a result, quality decreases for all.
You should also be taking full advantage of your data, you pay for it and Sprint prides itself on providing it. Think of it as a buffet.
Steven
chlehqls said:
Sounds good to me.
But I really wish that USA had a GSM dominated cellular market. HSPA+ is just sooo much better than 3G on Sprint...The one thing I really like about ATT and T-MO.
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That n phones could be used anywhere in the world lol
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i have a 30mb connection at my home that i pay for, i still use 20-30gb a month because I'm not home, I'm a truck driver. i vpn to my home network, i netflix, i YouTube. it is against the TOS to torrent but i don't on sprint because i can at home then download the tottered objects through tonido and subsonic.
there is a market for unlimited, i couldn't go to Verizon or att because i can't afford the $300 monthly bill
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My question to the OP and anyone who thinks this is a good idea... "have YOU ever been throttled?
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I was throttled on T-Mobile... I hated it with the passion of a thousand burning suns
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I use Netflix and YouTube and other various streams while I am at work, and when I need a program I download it on my phone and some tethering.... I use well over 8gb a month... and that's just me, there are three people on my plan (who use significantly less) Fastest connection I can get at home is a 768kbps and I'm too far away to use the WiFi on my phone (not that I use my phone at home anyways) but I tether when my sisters decide to rape our house connection. I don't torrent with it but I still use a ton of data.
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I use Netflix and YouTube and other various streams while I am at work, and when I need a program I download it on my phone and some tethering.... I use well over 8gb a month... and that's just me, there are three people on my plan (who use significantly less) Fastest connection I can get at home is a 768kbps and I'm too far away to use the WiFi on my phone (not that I use my phone at home anyways) but I tether when my sisters decide to rape our house connection. I don't torrent with it but I still use a ton of data.
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That's another point why it will suck when and if they throttle...
Netflix cannot be watch let alone youtube... And don't get me started on the lonely nights my girlfriend is out of town and I watch pRon..... It all would be impossible...
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I Completely Disagree
If you want a data cap go to Verizon and pay for the more decent speeds, If you want to be throttled go to T-Mobile. Sprint is marketing its unlimited data which brings it its customers. I agree that people are using too much but to each his own since they paid for Unlimited
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I guess you didnt see the wsj about Sprints unlimited data today? I hope you all don't expect Sprint to still have unlimited data by the end of 2012.
Phone Dog seems to have a nice video review of the EVO 4G LTE. Aaron really is becoming an excellent phone reviewer. I like the way he always goes through the apps and screens to show how the phone truly works rather than make opinionated reviews with out detailed video explanations to back what he says. HE really has nice things to say about battery life if anyone is interested. All I can say is damn.....this phone is really fast.
http://www.phonedog.com/videos/htc-evo-4g-lte-video-review-part-1/
http://www.phonedog.com/videos/htc-evo-4g-lte-video-review-part-2/
TEASE!!!!!!!!!! You sir lack feelings in these troubled times
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mbaseball3 said:
TEASE!!!!!!!!!! You sir lack feelings in these troubled times
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Troubled times needs a little inspiration to show that the trouble and wait is worth it or not. I see some people debating canceling their order with no other phone coming with in the next few weeks. Those people need inspiration to be patient! Did you hear that part where Aarons says the camera best the mighty iPhone, and calls this the best phone on the market today!
I just finished watching his review. I really like his reviews, they are almost better than Android Central's. I'm just waiting for this whole thing to get straightened out so I can actually purchase my EVO.
Best review I saw so far. I got to see what I'm looking forward to. Made me feel a little better during these troubled times.
Yeah very good review. I also agree with him about Sprints pathetic 3G download speeds. They really need to speed the NV upgrade up before they lose a ton of customers.
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Yeah very good review. I also agree with him about Sprints pathetic 3G download speeds. They really need to speed the NV upgrade up before they lose a ton of customers.
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It wasn't like this a few months ago, because I was able to get 1MB up, and down on 3G in some areas. In the last month or so it has become terrible. LOS, dropped calls delayed text messages. I hope network vision upgrades are complete here in NYC.
I was told by a CS rep that network upgrades are the problem because network vision is being rolled out very soon. I know NYC market is listed as a 1st round market for network vision to come live in 2012. I am hoping this pain will stop in June or there about!
Also may I reiterate that Aaron does a very good video review for each phone that seems fair, unbiased, and truthful.
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It wasn't like this a few months ago, because I was able to get 1MB up, and down on 3G in some areas. In the last month or so it has become terrible. LOS, dropped calls delayed text messages. I hope network vision upgrades are complete here in NYC.
I was told by a CS rep that network upgrades are the problem because network vision is being rolled out very soon. I know NYC market is listed as a 1st round market for network vision to come live in 2012. I am hoping this pain will stop in June or there about!
Also may I reiterate that Aaron does a very good video review for each phone that seems fair, unbiased, and truthful.
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I agree with you regarding the speeds. I live in Columbus, OH right now and used to get around 800-1000kbps during the day. Now its absolutely atrocious, though Columbus isn't even on the NV roll out list. Hopefully we can get LTE here before the end of 2013.
As bad as sprint 3g has been I'm still able to stream google music and spotify with no problems. But its always ugly in the speed test app.
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I agree with you regarding the speeds. I live in Columbus, OH right now and used to get around 800-1000kbps during the day. Now its absolutely atrocious, though Columbus isn't even on the NV roll out list. Hopefully we can get LTE here before the end of 2013.
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Viridus
If u don't have the speedtest app download it, once downloaded change which server u use. I connect to Radnor and get better speeds than I do on the Columbus tower
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Viridus
If u don't have the speedtest app download it, once downloaded change which server u use. I connect to Radnor and get better speeds than I do on the Columbus tower
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What happened when u change the server? Does that mean actual 3G data speeds will be faster?
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Yes either slower or faster depending on where u r and which tower u choose to connect
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What happened when u change the server? Does that mean actual 3G data speeds will be faster?
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It won't actually change your 3G speed in browsing the web, just your results in the SpeedTest app.
Honestly, although I like and want this ELTE device. I feel like we r being played by Sprint. I used to work for them for 5 yrs as a CSR and I like them for their plans and devices. I dont want anyone to think I'm just hating on them. I really enjoy my service and plan and genuinely roll with Sprint, but c'mon.
I mean, we have to pay an additional fee for "premium" data, but a lot of ppl don't have access to premium data. They were told they wld be rolling out 4G nationwide (for the most part) which is still not accessible nationwide. Now, all smart phones pay an additional fee? Sounds like we were hood-winked and that's just not right.
And about this release date being push-back b/c of CBP, this is absolutely insane! Ok, so you have a press conference saying this high-end (flagship) phone will be released on 5/18 for a network that's won't initially be ready until June, possibly. Then we are expected to go back to using 3G (EVO owners with 4G coverage) until the network catches up, right? And still pay an additional fee!? That's also insane and confusing like the guy in the reviews said.
My problem with that is that u have HTC, Sprint, and At&t, which are very big companies that are waiting on a major flagship device. You mean to tell me that noone is any of these organizations had the foresight to say, "now u know there's some patent issues and the phones may not get imported?" Noone in any of these companies had the intelligence to think, what if? What contingency plan do we have? And to make it worse, some ppl can't cancel their order?? That's Sprint saying hell no you not getting your money back even though we fudged up, you're going to wait until the phone arrives and then send it back. Yea right? After we've been drooling over the phone, we're gonna send it back once we get it? I don't think so.....I just feel like the end-user always gets "it" up the rear with no lub!
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Honestly, although I like and want this ELTE device. I feel like we r being played by Sprint. I used to work for them for 5 yrs as a CSR and I like them for their plans and devices. I dont want anyone to think I'm just hating on them. I really enjoy my service and plan and genuinely roll with Sprint, but c'mon.
I mean, we have to pay an additional fee for "premium" data, but a lot of ppl don't have access to premium data. They were told they wld be rolling out 4G nationwide (for the most part) which is still not accessible nationwide. Now, all smart phones pay an additional fee? Sounds like we were hood-winked and that's just not right.
And about this release date being push-back b/c of CBP, this is absolutely insane! Ok, so you have a press conference saying this high-end (flagship) phone will be released on 5/18 for a network that's won't initially be ready until June, possibly. Then we are expected to go back to using 3G (EVO owners with 4G coverage) until the network catches up, right? And still pay an additional fee!? That's also insane and confusing like the guy in the reviews said.
My problem with that is that u have HTC, Sprint, and At&t, which are very big companies that are waiting on a major flagship device. You mean to tell me that noone is any of these organizations had the foresight to say, "now u know there's some patent issues and the phones may not get imported?" Noone in any of these companies had the intelligence to think, what if? What contingency plan do we have? And to make it worse, some ppl can't cancel their order?? That's Sprint saying hell no you not getting your money back even though we fudged up, you're going to wait until the phone arrives and then send it back. Yea right? After we've been drooling over the phone, we're gonna send it back once we get it? I don't think so.....I just feel like the end-user always gets "it" up the rear with no lub!
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You are making the same mistake almost everyone else (and everyone who complains about that 10.00 data charge as far as I know) does:
Premium data does not mean 4G. It means premium data. Flip phones don't have that fee.
After the Hero came out and other smart phones became more prevalent, Sprint charged a fee that was initially erroneously assumed to be 4G related (because it came out with the Evo 4G). The data charge is simply due to the fact that smartphones use one HELL of a lot more data on the network than flip phones, or 'non-smart' phones do.
Sprint realized that as these phones became more common they were going to be adding to the networks in order to accommodate the influx of data use, and rather than simply raising the rates on their plans (which they should probably do so people stop *****ing about having to pay a '4G premium' (it isn't) when they don't have 4G service) they just added a line item surcharge.
It's not a '4g' charge. It's a charge for phones that use the most data on their networks. I find it to be eminently fair.
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You mean to tell me that noone is any of these organizations had the foresight to say, "now u know there's some patent issues and the phones may not get imported?" Noone in any of these companies had the intelligence to think, what if? What contingency plan do we have?
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The ONE X launched on AT&T on 5/6. The ITC didn't ban imports on that device when it launched, so what would make HTC or Sprint think the evo launch would go any differently?
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You are making the same mistake almost everyone else (and everyone who complains about that 10.00 data charge as far as I know) does:
Premium data does not mean 4G. It means premium data. Flip phones don't have that fee.
After the Hero came out and other smart phones became more prevalent, Sprint charged a fee that was initially erroneously assumed to be 4G related (because it came out with the Evo 4G). The data charge is simply due to the fact that smartphones use one HELL of a lot more data on the network than flip phones, or 'non-smart' phones do.
Sprint realized that as these phones became more common they were going to be adding to the networks in order to accommodate the influx of data use, and rather than simply raising the rates on their plans (which they should probably do so people stop *****ing about having to pay a '4G premium' (it isn't) when they don't have 4G service) they just added a line item surcharge.
It's not a '4g' charge. It's a charge for phones that use the most data on their networks. I find it to be eminently fair.
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Ok, I see your point! But what then does premium data mean? I think my TP2, Moto Q, used 3G and there wasn't an additional data fee. And I was informed by sprint that initially it was being charged b/c it was 4G device. And I believe initially only 4G devices were billed this fee. Now all smartphone are billed this fee. My point is, It's all about the money like everything else. I just think as big as Sprint is, they should know better than to count their eggs b4 they hatch.
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Ok, I see your point! But what then does premium data mean? I think my TP2, Moto Q, used 3G and there wasn't an additional data fee. And I was informed by sprint that initially it was being charged b/c it was 4G device. And I believe initially only 4G devices were billed this fee. Now all smartphone are billed this fee. My point is, It's all about the money like everything else. I just think as big as Sprint is, they should know better than to count their eggs b4 they hatch.
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It was only the Evo that had that data fee in the beginning. But it was never a 4G fee. The reps made an invalid assumption....basically never believe anything you get from a Sprint rep.
What they did was hit EVERY smart phone after the Evo with that 10.00 fee, then grandfathered in the old smart phones like the Hero. The reason they didn't have that fee prior to that is because they realized that with newer phones having a higher capable speed, coupled with the massive amount of smart phones they already had in the pipeline, they were going to blow up in terms of data usage...so they instituted the fee and to the best of my knowledge have been using it for upgrades to the network.
Again, the fee came about due to the massive amounts of data that smart phones use, whether they're on 1x, 3g, 4g. They use a TON of data. Think about how many of your apps have an hourly poll to the network (weather, most widgets, etc), then multiply that by how many smartphones are on Sprint's network and you'll begin to see why they added that fee.
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It was only the Evo that had that data fee in the beginning. But it was never a 4G fee. The reps made an invalid assumption....basically never believe anything you get from a Sprint rep.
What they did was hit EVERY smart phone after the Evo with that 10.00 fee, then grandfathered in the old smart phones like the Hero. The reason they didn't have that fee prior to that is because they realized that with newer phones having a higher capable speed, coupled with the massive amount of smart phones they already had in the pipeline, they were going to blow up in terms of data usage...so they instituted the fee and to the best of my knowledge have been using it for upgrades to the network.
Again, the fee came about due to the massive amounts of data that smart phones use, whether they're on 1x, 3g, 4g. They use a TON of data. Think about how many of your apps have an hourly poll to the network (weather, most widgets, etc), then multiply that by how many smartphones are on Sprint's network and you'll begin to see why they added that fee.
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I see your point...
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im actually getting fairly good speeds again with sprint, was getting 2mbps + for a long time, then they dropped down, now its back up again
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Verizon will be cutting of all their customers from having Unlimited Data Plans, even if you were grandfathered in.
Verizon has gotten greedy!
Shame on you Shammo! (Fran Shammo Verizon's CFO)
We need to take action! We've done it before we can do it again.
Here is the score:
Won
Verizon Imposes $2 Credit Card processing fee. 50,000 people signed petition on change.org Verizon nixed that plan.
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Verizon Imposes $30 "upgrade fee" for upgrading to a new phone
Verizon has stuck with that plan.
Score Thus far 1:1
Next line up,
Verizon will cut off all existing unlimited data customers from their Unlimited Data plans.
Lets make this a win! Sign the petition and share with everyone you know! Repost this everywhere! Let's get the word out!
Read the Article here: http://news.cnet.com/8301-1035_3-57...r-existing-subscribers/?tag=postrtcol;mostPop
Sign Petition here! http://www.change.org/petitions/sto...unlimited-data-plans-for-existing-subscribers
I wish those petitions mattered. I know that since they are not breaching your current contract nothing can be done. Most likely they are taking off unl data if you upgrade from 3g to 4g(sing a new contract with new terms) or switching to data family plans. All current 4g unl customers might stay on unl plan unless they upgrade their phones. The terms are not clear yet. That's why let's do not panic and wait and see what happens.
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The petitions do matter, they had a huge impact on reversing the proposal of the the $2 credit card fee. They had 50,000 signatures on change.org in just 24 hours it created buzz and a huge community back lash on Verizon.
Though the terms aren't clear yet, it's best not to wait. It's better to build up momentum now so are voices are heard than wait till it's too late.
Signed!
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How about bringing back unlimited for only on 4g, like our limit of data only counts when were using 3g.. 4gb is nice but lte can eat that in less then 8 hours if i try
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lol and I pay 60$ for 1GB of HSPA and unlimited calls/messages in Germany.. D
I'll sign it btw
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The petitions do matter, they had a huge impact on reversing the proposal of the the $2 credit card fee. They had 50,000 signatures on change.org in just 24 hours it created buzz and a huge community back lash on Verizon.
Though the terms aren't clear yet, it's best not to wait. It's better to build up momentum now so are voices are heard than wait till it's too late.
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Verizon dropped those charge because of FCC warning to open an investigation. Do you think that the petition will make any difference. You are wrong my friend. I wish you were right.
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I think they are only killing 3G plans not 4G.
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Do you need to supply them with your ssn? And they can't even spell privilege. Hmmm....
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lol. + 1
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I think there is some confusion about what is happening here. They're not killing unlimited data for those people who already have it. They're making it easier to lose it, not taking it away. If you update or receive a device at a reduced rate, you lose unlimited data. Just buy your devices off Craigslist or the XDA market like I've been doing for the past couple years. Always have a newer device and spend less money than you did signing a new contract.
And before any asks, YES you can switch between devices (4G --> 4G, 4G --> 3G, 3G --> 3G, and 3G --> 4G). As long as you don't buy the phone from Verizon at a reduced rate, your plan will be unaffected. I can confirm this from speaking to multiple Verizon reps in various positions/departments/pay grades. Every one said the same thing (which is rare) so this has obviously been a topic of discussion.
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They released the full details on it a couple weeks ago. You can keep your unlimited data, as long as you pay full retail for your phone (which I plan to do for the Razr HD). What I don't know is how they will handle it when certain people on a family plan upgrade their phone. Will they have their own "share" plan, or will each person on the plan get pushed into shared and lose their unlimited? I honestly have no idea, however, when my father or brother who are both on my account come time to extend their contract, I'm kicking them off my plan. They don't see the reasoning for spending 650+ on a new phone just to keep a data plan, but I do. I average 25-30 GB of data a month. That would far outweigh the cost of going over my $100 for 10 GB allowance on a shared plan, especially with other users on the plan. The $600-$700 bucks is a small price to pay upfront compared to the cost of overage charges. So in closing, no you won't lose your unlimited data, as long as you pay full retail. And unfortunately, no petition will change that.
For now, Sprint still offers new unlimited plans. I'll go there if Verizon cans unlimited. And, agreed... petitions don't do a thing. Verizon is responsible to their shareholders to keep the company profitable. They'll do what they do.
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They released the full details on it a couple weeks ago. You can keep your unlimited data, as long as you pay full retail for your phone (which I plan to do for the Razr HD). What I don't know is how they will handle it when certain people on a family plan upgrade their phone. Will they have their own "share" plan, or will each person on the plan get pushed into shared and lose their unlimited? I honestly have no idea, however, when my father or brother who are both on my account come time to extend their contract, I'm kicking them off my plan. They don't see the reasoning for spending 650+ on a new phone just to keep a data plan, but I do. I average 25-30 GB of data a month. That would far outweigh the cost of going over my $100 for 10 GB allowance on a shared plan, especially with other users on the plan. The $600-$700 bucks is a small price to pay upfront compared to the cost of overage charges. So in closing, no you won't lose your unlimited data, as long as you pay full retail. And unfortunately, no petition will change that.
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They force the entire family onto the shared data plan. I just got the Razr yesterday, and they put us onto the family shared plan with 6GB of data to share (we have 3 people with smartphones, so 2GB for each of us). This is actually cheaper for us than it was before with me on unlimited and the two others on 2GB plans, AND we get unlimited talk and text.
Also, you should stop using 25-30GB a month. I'm surprised Verizon hasn't severely throttled your data speeds, people like you who hog up so much data are the exact reason why Verizon is trying to force people onto limited and shared data plans. This video goes into detail about why so many carriers are switching to tiered plans. This link talks about how it could be fixed, but it's not really happening yet or soon. In short: people use up too much data and Verizon doesn't have enough spectrum for that. Back when they started offering unlimited, they were perfectly able to, as they didn't really have as large of a base as they do now. However, that made them more popular, and now with the move to 4G, people will be using more and more data. In short, that leads to Verizon not being able to handle all of that. To remedy this, they moved to tiered data, and now shared data.
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They force the entire family onto the shared data plan. I just got the Razr yesterday, and they put us onto the family shared plan with 6GB of data to share (we have 3 people with smartphones, so 2GB for each of us). This is actually cheaper for us than it was before with me on unlimited and the two others on 2GB plans, AND we get unlimited talk and text.
Also, you should stop using 25-30GB a month. I'm surprised Verizon hasn't severely throttled your data speeds, people like you who hog up so much data are the exact reason why Verizon is trying to force people onto limited and shared data plans. This video goes into detail about why so many carriers are switching to tiered plans. This link talks about how it could be fixed, but it's not really happening yet or soon. In short: people use up too much data and Verizon doesn't have enough spectrum for that. Back when they started offering unlimited, they were perfectly able to, as they didn't really have as large of a base as they do now. However, that made them more popular, and now with the move to 4G, people will be using more and more data. In short, that leads to Verizon not being able to handle all of that. To remedy this, they moved to tiered data, and now shared data.
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I understand what you are saying, but I use my phone as I wish, and as far as the "you people" comment, there are people who use well over 100GB a month. I stream music to and from work every day. I work for the Government, so Slacker.com is blocked at work. I use my phone to stream music at work as well. I download apps here and there, maybe a rom update on occasion, as well as watch netflix on my phone at night. I use my phone as I see fit. I do not feel like I am abusing what I have, nor do I feel like it is people like me who caused Verizon to go this route. Verizon moved to shared and tiered data for one reason and one reason only. The unlimited data business model wasn't making them as much money as they would like. They can and will make more money using this new model. You think one or two hundred, or even thousand people in a given area using 20 gigs of data a month are really "overloading" their spectrum? That is a drop in the hat compared to the hundreds of thousands of people who live in and around the Baltimore/DC metro area alone. The power users make up a very small percentage of the populous.
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I understand what you are saying, but I use my phone as I wish, and as far as the "you people" comment, there are people who use well over 100GB a month. I stream music to and from work every day. I work for the Government, so Slacker.com is blocked at work. I use my phone to stream music at work as well. I download apps here and there, maybe a rom update on occasion, as well as watch netflix on my phone at night. I use my phone as I see fit. I do not feel like I am abusing what I have, nor do I feel like it is people like me who caused Verizon to go this route. Verizon moved to shared and tiered data for one reason and one reason only. The unlimited data business model wasn't making them as much money as they would like. They can and will make more money using this new model. You think one or two hundred, or even thousand people in a given area using 20 gigs of data a month are really "overloading" their spectrum? That is a drop in the hat compared to the hundreds of thousands of people who live in and around the Baltimore/DC metro area alone. The power users make up a very small percentage of the populous.
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I realize that there are people that use far more than you. However, my argument isn't really just about the power users. Verizon wants to restrict them because they use so much, but everyone does contribute. Everyone having unlimited just wasn't working. If they kept unlimited, more and more power users would come along, which is exactly what was happening. Yes, it is about money, because they'd lose plenty of it from running out of spectrum and switching to other carriers, who would as a consequence run out of spectrum as well, and so forth until a solution was found. As a result, the high prices on data now for power users is to try and convince them to use less data. I'm pretty sure this is how they make up for the amounts of money that they're losing for the many people on lower data plans, because as I said, my bill is now lower monthly, and I'm sure it is for plenty of other family plans too.
Also, if you want to use blocked websites at work without using up so much data on your phone, set up a proxy or VPN that runs through your home network while you're at work. Though, thinking about it, you have a government job, so that probably wouldn't work over too well... but if you're already using your phone to get past that, I don't know how far you're willing to go to get it. Just a thought on how to use less data though
EDIT: And sorry if I sound rude at all, I'm trying not to. I'm just one in the minority that supports Verizon's decision to move to the shared data system... Reddit is good at convincing me about things.
I use my phone to stream pandora to and from work every day (1hr each way) and I barely hit 1gb in a month. I tie into the wifi whenever I'm. At work or at home, but still 30gb seems excessive foe streaming music. Just saying. Lol
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LOL....30 gb is a lot of porn.
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I'm looking for the actual contract text, not someone's summary. This is because someone said that even unlimited data was capped at 5gb and that this fact was well known. The agreement I've found here only says that " if you use an extraordinary amount of data and fall within the top 5% of Verizon Wireless data users we may reduce your data throughput speeds periodically for the remainder of your then current and immediately following billing cycle to ensure high quality network performance for other users at locations and times of peak demand." I can't find the 5gb number anywhere. That was updated in February, so that may be why. I joined Verizon after unlimited was ended for new subs, so I can't look at mine. Thanks.
There are people here that use 10-20GB+... was even one person that had a little over 1TB of data used...
It's not capped at 5GB, the 5GB number was for tethering if you paid the extra $30 for the tethering application.
mjones73 said:
It's not capped at 5GB, the 5GB number was for tethering if you paid the extra $30 for the tethering application.
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No in the contract it says if u use over 5GB they CAN terminate you contract. Apparently they don't but the can
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carngeX said:
There are people here that use 10-20GB+... was even one person that had a little over 1TB of data used...
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I know that, that's actually why I'm looking for this. I think unlimited is unlimited and these people are not abusing anything. (I'm not saying VZW ending unlimited is wrong, just the justification they gave, namely abuse and network congestion [since they throttle the heavy users during that time anyway])
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It's not capped at 5GB, the 5GB number was for tethering if you paid the extra $30 for the tethering application.
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That would make sense as well, though that's an awfully low number. What's the point of tethering if that's all you can get?
AshtonTS said:
No in the contract it says if u use over 5GB they CAN terminate you contract. Apparently they don't but the can
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Can you link to the contract? Or scan one, or send a pdf? I'd like to actually see that instead of someone just telling me. Because someone else saying "no it doesn't" is just as valid an argument.
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I'm looking for the actual contract text, not someone's summary. This is because someone said that even unlimited data was capped at 5gb and that this fact was well known. The agreement I've found here only says that " if you use an extraordinary amount of data and fall within the top 5% of Verizon Wireless data users we may reduce your data throughput speeds periodically for the remainder of your then current and immediately following billing cycle to ensure high quality network performance for other users at locations and times of peak demand." I can't find the 5gb number anywhere. That was updated in February, so that may be why. I joined Verizon after unlimited was ended for new subs, so I can't look at mine. Thanks.
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There is no set number for unlimited data. That 5 gb is just an arbitrary number people have been throwing around here for a long time as to what was the top 5% number Verizon would use to slow down your data speed. I've exceeded it without any problems many times as have many others so its baseless.
I may have my receipt with the contract on it in the box for my Rezound, I'll see what I can come up with.
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There is no set number for unlimited data. That 5 gb is just an arbitrary number people have been throwing around here for a long time as to what was the top 5% number Verizon would use to slow down your data speed. I've exceeded it without any problems many times as have many others so its baseless.
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That's what I thought, but had no proof. I just get tired of people criticizing other people for using their bandwidth as much as they want. And, as it turns out, Verizon shouldn't've even been able to stop them from tethering, according to the FCC. I just wish Verizon would come out and say "we think we can make more money by ending unlimited data, so that's what we're doing". They won't, but I wish they would.
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There is no set number for unlimited data. That 5 gb is just an arbitrary number people have been throwing around here for a long time as to what was the top 5% number Verizon would use to slow down your data speed. I've exceeded it without any problems many times as have many others so its baseless.
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It was on Verizon's website it said if you have an unlimited plan you cant use it excessively. Excessive things include streaming video and downloading large files etc. If you use over 5 GB in a month you are using excessive amounts of data and your account can be terminated at our descretion basically. I read that from the Verizon website awhile ago, so its not arbitrary
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Interesting thread
*popcorngif*
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AshtonTS said:
It was on Verizon's website it said if you have an unlimited plan you cant use it excessively. Excessive things include streaming video and downloading large files etc. If you use over 5 GB in a month you are using excessive amounts of data and your account can be terminated at our descretion basically. I read that from the Verizon website awhile ago, so its not arbitrary
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Link?
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This is an message my sister has been getting yesterday and today. She had been watching the Olympics at work. We have "unlimited data" on 3 lines.
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Idk if Its there anymore that was a while ago...
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I'm constantly over 10 GB worth of data per month. Last month was like 16+. Can they really terminate you for "excessive" use? Better start using WiFi more lol got spoiled with unlimited data.
zac41189 said:
I'm constantly over 10 GB worth of data per month. Last month was like 16+. Can they really terminate you for "excessive" use? Better start using WiFi more lol got spoiled with unlimited data.
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I guess they could but they haven't done it at all yet. Maybe in a year or so they'll do that to get rid of unlimited data forever tho
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rodalcaraz827 said:
This is an message my sister has been getting yesterday and today. She had been watching the Olympics at work. We have "unlimited data" on 3 lines.
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That looks like a feature of the ROM, you can change the limit, or just leave it alone. It's designed for people with an actual cap to avoid overages.
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I guess they could but they haven't done it at all yet. Maybe in a year or so they'll do that to get rid of unlimited data forever tho
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You know I've been worried about that ever since they got rid of truely unlimited and went to data packages. They better not do away with the grandfathered in plans. Wouldn't be surprised if they did tho.
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That looks like a feature of the ROM, you can change the limit, or just leave it alone. It's designed for people with an actual cap to avoid overages.
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She is running the stock ICS OTA for her Droid Raze MAXX. I'll look to see if there is an option to disable this feature when I get home from work. Otherwise Verizon will be getting a phone call from me. from my ADR6425LVW using Tapatalk 2
AshtonTS said:
Idk if Its there anymore that was a while ago...
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AshtonTS said:
I guess they could but they haven't done it at all yet. Maybe in a year or so they'll do that to get rid of unlimited data forever tho
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So far I haven't seen anything beyond hearsay that there was an actual limit to unlimited.
But if there was, that's crap. A company shouldn't be allowed to call it unlimited if it's got a limit. That seems like a truth-in-advertising issue.
And by the way, if streaming video is excessive, why did they get the rights to NFL mobile whose main draw is streaming video? It's just disingenuous to advertise something if you're not going to allow people to use it.
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unlimited doesnt mean its capped at 5g. but in the older contracts they defined "unlimited data" as 5gb