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As some of you know, I could get USB host to work on the release candidate of HoneyComb but not on the final release (3.55.405).
This morning I thought I would try again, my flyer was turned off (completely shut down) when I plugged in my portable hard drive (Seagate 120 gig using the Y cable one to a power supply the other to a USB micro USB adaptor).
I then booted up the Flyer … low and behold there it was. Shows up as USB in Astro but, does not show in Root Explorer.
I was able to watch my movies and play my music from the hard drive.
It seems like the flyer with latest HoneyComb will only see USB peripherals at boot time.
Great news!
If you care to try some other configurations, I'd love to get your results when using a usb keyboard or mouse?
vancraft said:
Great news!
If you care to try some other configurations, I'd love to get your results when using a usb keyboard or mouse?
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Will do … just keep in mind that any device well need to be self powered (because the Flyers port does not provide power) I’ll try with a powered hub.
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It seems like the flyer with latest HoneyComb will only see USB peripherals at boot time.
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It works perfectly fine without rebooting. The only thing is that you have to umnount before unplugging. It worked for me even with one 1TB Harddisc.
Elfuente said:
It works perfectly fine without rebooting. The only thing is that you have to umnount before unplugging. It worked for me even with one 1TB Harddisc.
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What Rom are you using? Most of us have been unable to get Usb host working on the latest HoneyComb release.
Edit: just tried again and won’t work for me unless I boot with it plugged in. Also, booting takes a longer than normal time.
Elfuente said:
It works perfectly fine without rebooting. The only thing is that you have to umnount before unplugging. It worked for me even with one 1TB Harddisc.
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Please be more specific, on what custom ROM and what version, you have try? Do you have tried other usb peripherals too?
iwansuryo said:
Please be more specific, on what custom ROM and what version, you have try? Do you have tried other usb peripherals too?
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I don´t use a custom rom I use the HC stock rom. You have to have the "/mnt/sdcard/usb/" folder. If you don´t have it, create it. I use only as I mentioned a 1 TB Harddisk and I used also two different kind of 8GB USB Flashdrives with a Y-Cable with external powersupply and a Nokia OTG Cable.
They work all perfectly fine. Only I had to unmount the devices before I unplugged otherwise I needed to reboot as well for a another usb device.
I didn´t try any other peripherals.
I am not a "tecfreak", just an average user who likes to tinker and mess around with his gadgets. If you have any further question I can help you with, Please ask.
P.S.: before I used the Nokia Cable, I used another Micro USB Male to USB A Female Cable and that didn´t work, so If it doesn´t work for you than it might be caused by the wrong cable. ????
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Will do … just keep in mind that any device well need to be self powered (because the Flyers port does not provide power) I’ll try with a powered hub.
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so pendrives will not work?
Elfuente said:
I don´t use a custom rom I use the HC stock rom. You have to have the "/mnt/sdcard/usb/" folder. If you don´t have it, create it. I use only as I mentioned a 1 TB Harddisk and I used also two different kind of 8GB USB Flashdrives with a Y-Cable with external powersupply and a Nokia OTG Cable.
They work all perfectly fine. Only I had to unmount the devices before I unplugged otherwise I needed to reboot as well for a another usb device.
I didn´t try any other peripherals.
I am not a "tecfreak", just an average user who likes to tinker and mess around with his gadgets. If you have any further question I can help you with, Please ask.
P.S.: before I used the Nokia Cable, I used another Micro USB Male to USB A Female Cable and that didn´t work, so If it doesn´t work for you than it might be caused by the wrong cable. ????
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Are you s-off or rooted?
Elfuente said:
P.S.: before I used the Nokia Cable, I used another Micro USB Male to USB A Female Cable and that didn´t work, so If it doesn´t work for you than it might be caused by the wrong cable. ????
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Been doing some more testing … I noticed (when using the Y cable on my drive) that when I power up the hard drive the charging light on the Flyer comes on.
So, somehow power is back feeding to the OTG cable.
This leads me to believe that it may work better (like Elfuente stated) with a different cable.
Perhaps the Nokia cable does not have the charging pins
Ps: I noticed that on my Y cable … one is labeled Power+Data the other is labeled Power
I had a rather long message typed about this but the browser crashed, I'll possibly retype most of that later, but for now suffice to say that cables are singnificant in these setups.
globatron said:
I had a rather long message typed about this but the browser crashed, I'll possibly retype most of that later, but for now suffice to say that cables are singnificant in these setups.
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Ahhh there you are I was hoping you would show up. If anyone could shed some light on this it would be you. Do I smell another hardware hack?
Keeping in mind my abilities in this field are very limited but, I was thinking … if I could come up with a battery pack for a portable hard drive I could (with the proper cables) then just plug it in and have the ability to read and write to it.
Maybe another hack for an adapter to provide power from a battery with usb connector or mains usb charger but it should actually be fairly trivial to implement, so maybe a schematic also for anyone who is remotely comfortable with soldering.
The big difference between OTG and other usb modes is that pin 5 is electrically significant. When grounded it indicates to an otg capable device that it should go to OTG-A mode (OTG equivalent of host mode), when floating it's ignored and the device will not detect a connected device.
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I could come up with a battery pack for a portable hard drive I could (with the proper cables) then just plug it in and have the ability to read and write to it.
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That´s exactly what I do. I travel a lot and was used to carry a netbook with me. Now I changed to the Flyer and use the external 1TB Harddisc with a BatteryPack as external powersupply (http://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B003ZV1A1Y).
As I already mentioned: It works fine for me.
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That´s exactly what I do. I travel a lot and was used to carry a netbook with me. Now I changed to the Flyer and use the external 1TB Harddisc with a BatteryPack as external powersupply (http://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B003ZV1A1Y).
As I already mentioned: It works fine for me.
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Thanks for this.
I ordered one of the Nokia cables and if it works for me.
I’ll then take both apart (drive and battery) and mill up a case to mount both of them in.
This only works with honey comb right?
and by the way, the disc has to be formated wit fat32.
... and yes I formated a 1TB harddisc with fat32, look here; http://www.thetfp.com/tfp/tilted-te...-formatting-large-hard-drives-32gb-fat32.html
Today, a friend asked if I had an extra laptop. He needed one for his 10 year old son.
While rummaging through my closet (you know, the one with all the old computers, shotguns, and half empty Jack Daniels bottles) when I found one of these.
Two Pics … http://db.tt/GY4wfof6 and http://db.tt/rzkodoMi
Now, I have no idea as to how, where or when I got this. I had to search the net to even know what it was.
Ebay link … http://www.ebay.com/itm/230328510631?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2648
Continuing my search of the closet I also found a 2.5 inch 160 gig IDE hard drive. Assembled the two and I now have a portable battery powered drive that works great with my Flyer.
That looks kinda old school. =)
So you connect to the flyer via bluetooth or microUSB?
It connects with microUSB.
Now that I’ve had a chance to use it a while I’ve found I can set its switch to PC or DC.
When set to PC I just plug it in to my Flyer and can copy files both ways.
When set to DC it will function as a standalone unit (because it has its own battery power). I can plug thumb drives and USB sdcard adaptors into it to move files both ways.
It will even plug into my camera and copy the pictures.
Kind of handy as the Flyer doesn’t supply power at its microUSB port to spin a hard drive.
It’s not what I call well built but seems to work.
At least it does the job! I didn't know we could use OTG harddrive for the flyer...
That's very cool. Vastly increases the number of movies I could take with me on a long trip!
ARRR
Ok so spent about £40 on one of these and it doesn't work with my Flyer(32GB WiFi 3G). Flyer is not rooted and running the latest official version of HC. I have tried both DC and PC but device still does not detect the OTG drive. My samsung mobile finds the device fine.
Are you using a standard micro usb cable ??
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Ok so spent about £40 on one of these and it doesn't work with my Flyer(32GB WiFi 3G). Flyer is not rooted and running the latest official version of HC. I have tried both DC and PC but device still does not detect the OTG drive. My samsung mobile finds the device fine.
Are you using a standard micro usb cable ??
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Yes using a standard micro usb cable
Try this ... Shut down your Flyer (make sure Fast Boot is unchecked in settings) then turn on your drive in DC mode and restart your Flyer.
Your Flyer should find it then and will work from then on.
Using your file explorer of choice you should see a new folder called USB
Hi, tried this but still no go. Ran a USB host and USB OGB diganostics app which still fail to detect the device. The drive works with my camera/Samsung phone and brothers PSP. May have to fork out for WIFI drive.
Still no go with the OTG device. Tried with a friends Flyer and same results. I am going to try this device, is fairly cheap.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/USB-2-5-For-OTG-LCD-Partner-Storage-Backup-HDD-/260990399369?pt=UK_Computing_HardDrives_RL&hash=item3cc43d7389
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Hi, tried this but still no go. Ran a USB host and USB OGB diganostics app which still fail to detect the device. The drive works with my camera/Samsung phone and brothers PSP. May have to fork out for WIFI drive.
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Strange … My Flyer is the 16 Gig Best Buy wifi model and is rooted I wonder if that makes a difference
I use an OTG USB cable on my US BB Wifi Flyer , the standard usb cable doesn't work for me.
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I use an OTG USB cable on my US BB Wifi Flyer , the standard usb cable doesn't work for me.
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I have an OTG cable from my samsung but this did not work. what OTG cable are you using? I gather you are connecting the USB device into the OTG cable via a powered hub?
Got it working but it's a hackjob, was going to root but having to downgrade then upgrade again was a pain and was not guaranteed to work. Tried running the OTG cable into a powered hub but for what ever reason would always come up USB device not recognised when plugging in any memory device. Tried 3 USB hubs with the same result. Ended up cutting up an OTG cable and a few other USB cables so I could provide power to the device and then power to the tablet as well. For whatever reason i need to provide power to he memory stick before plugging into tablet. I have tested 4 different memory pens and 1 external harddrive and they all work.
I just bought a generic OTG cable, its about 6 inches long. I think it may have come from HP. I have used both a powered hub and a y-usb hard drive cable and both worked for me.
You have to have power on the device before you plug it onto the FLyer so that on connect the Flyer software knows what type of device it is and can load the driver. Otherwise the Flyer will label it unknown and disable the device.
Managed to get USB on the go to work on my Jetstream. See the following post. as the flyer very similar, should work for flyer too.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=24814701
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I think this question has been asked before, but I still want to see if someone can answer me. I tried to hook up my 500gb external hard drive to my TP, with OTG cable and a isound portable charger. My hard drive turns on but have no sign say it's connected and can't find under folder explorer. Is it not possible for a hard drive? Also if I buy a Y-cable for usb thumb drive, can I watch movie directly from it? Thank you.
Have you tried StickMount?
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Are you on cm7, cm9, or webos?
Also, are you sure the power source is outputting enough juice to fully power the drive?
im using usb host controller (found it somewhere here on xda) and root explorer, works perfectly!
but your hdd must be formated in FAT32, NTFS is not working correct me if im wrong or anything has released wich provides this feature
A bit related these software/methods can work with a camera too?
codehunter13 said:
im using usb host controller (found it somewhere here on xda) and root explorer, works perfectly!
but your hdd must be formated in FAT32, NTFS is not working correct me if im wrong or anything has released wich provides this feature
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USB host controller for Touchpad? What the.... where?
here^^
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1468531
works without problems just plug your hdd in mount it with this app to some path(some are already given in the app)
open root explorer navigate to the path and enjoy a movie or something
ive tested some other things like mouse it worked
ipod is regognised but nothing you than to, at least i didnt found anything
so you can test around and look for more possibilities
great!!
does this really work with touchpad.. where can i buy such a usb cord?
I used the chainfire app USB host diagnostics and it allowed me to use the solar powered usb hub and the otg cabled...I asked about this a while back and got that app as an answer works great.
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does this really work with touchpad.. where can i buy such a usb cord?
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just ordered one on ebay (only an adapter from normal usb to micro-usb) for 1$.
Along with the otg cable u also need a usb Wye cable...the need is to provide power (plugged into the wall) for the usb hub (which u will also need ). Not Neuf power and the drives will not mount. Getting a solar powered usb hub cuts away the cables and detached u from the wall...I got mine on Amazon for bout 20 $. Totally worth it.
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Hello everyone, Im not sure if this topic has been discuss in detail or not, but I have managed to connect a spare 500gb hard drive to my note 3. Here is everything I used.
I upgraded my laptop to a Samsung 250gb SSD, which provided me with a spare HDD:
http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-MZ-7T...=1387366438&sr=8-2&keywords=samsung+250gb+ssd
It comes with a cable already in it (USB 2.0) so this next item is optional, A Apricorn USB 3.0 Transger cable:
http://www.amazon.com/Apricorn-Note...qid=1387366498&sr=8-1&keywords=apricorn+clone
And lastly, it needs to connect to the phone, so I picked up this USB 3.0 OTG cable:
http://www.amazon.com/White-Color-M...7366411&sr=8-3&keywords=galaxy+note+3+usb+otg
Now here is the steps I took.
Since my HDD still had stuff on it, and it was partitioned, I had to wipe it clean. I formatted the HDD on my computer first. I formatted it to exfat. Maybe another way will work but I'm not testing it. I then hooked up all the wires accordingly and plugged it into my phone. The N3 did not recognize the file format of the HDD so I re-formatted it to the N3 standard. After that, it is as simple as plug and play. I was even able to use the stock My Files app.
Note*** obviously the SSD is not a requirement, unfortunately, I am unable to test it as it has been in my computer for several months and I dont want to risk corrupting anything. It may work with the SSD as well, although I doubt it will reach the speeds it can on a computer.
I am not rooted and did not have to download anything extra for it.
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Cool. But curious as to why you would need a 500G HDD attached to the N3
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Cool. But curious as to why you would need a 500G HDD attached to the N3
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You can use this powerful phone for other things like use it as a media center and connect the phone to your TV
tyvar1 said:
You can use this powerful phone for other things like use it as a media center and connect the phone to your TV
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Hmm..Never thought of that :good:
Transfer movies and stuff back and forth. Also pictures, downloaded documents. Mostly my school work is backed up to it now so if Google drive fails. I'll still be safe :beer:
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Can never have too much space
tyvar1 said:
You can use this powerful phone for other things like use it as a media center and connect the phone to your TV
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This. We were using a variant setup, pushing the content via DLNA to our Xbox 360 (connected to a good ole 'dumb' tube TV). Quite enjoyable.
Damn I didnt even know you could do this
Has anyone found a way to pass through power with a splitter or something so while connecting the USB OTG cable you could still run the phone off of power without depleting the battery? I asked this same question in the Note 8 forum but no one found a way.
trillog said:
Damn I didnt even know you could do this
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I'm sure it can be done. That would be ideal. I have the 10,000mah zero Lemmon battery set to notify me when it's available again. I'll look around for a spilter
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what format was the hdd in exFAT or NTFS ?
I use the OTG dongle to hook up my 1TB drive and play movies and TV shows directly from the drive.
(Also works with the tablet)
I formatted it to exfat. I have a 1tb external also. But it's already formatted to ntfs. And it's full so I'm not going to risk losing a thing on it.
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justin94 said:
Hello everyone, Im not sure if this topic has been discuss in detail or not, but I have managed to connect a spare 500gb hard drive to my note 3. Here is everything I used.
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This is awesome! I have an otg on order from Amazon. I was hoping to use a Logitech wireless receiver for my mouse, and a large 3.0 usb when needed.
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Do not remember where, maybe mono price, but have seen micro USB 2.0 to USB 'A' female splitters.
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Has anyone found a way to pass through power with a splitter or something so while connecting the USB OTG cable you could still run the phone off of power without depleting the battery? I asked this same question in the Note 8 forum but no one found a way.
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Because it's not supposed to work that way... The OTG cable puts your device in "host" mode... so it will use the phones power to run your HDD and kill the ability to charge... there are ways to get power to the HDD so you don't drain your device battery as much but the charging thing is a native function of OTG switching.
This is what i've been using... it has HDMI out ... microUSB 5v input to run the HDD... USB port for HDD or any other USB device... (using a wireless keyboard on it right now)... and card reader ports...
You can fake this thing into trying to charge the phone by plugging in the micro USB connection first and THEN plugging the hub into the phone with the microUSB power already on... then you see the charge notification in the status bar but it still doesn't charge the device... even with the samsung 2amp charger as a power supply... the battery still drains
What about wireless charging? I Don't have a wireless charger or battery cover to test this. But this may work
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justin94 said:
What about wireless charging? I Don't have a wireless charger or battery cover to test this. But this may work
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That actually is a good idea to try. I'm less optimistic about that as my previous experience with wireless charging has shown that it is less efficient t getting current to the phone as a wired connection and there are some things done on your phone that even when plugged to a 2A wired connection will still drain the battery.
What about the Smart dock? With 2 USB ports an HDMI and power in?
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there are some things done on your phone that even when plugged to a 2A wired connection will still drain the battery.
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That's the problem I'm running into... I'm running the HDMI/MHL/OTG hub... I got the HDMI out to my flat screen... OTG to a wireless keyboard... bluetooth mouse... When it all hooks up properly (you have to plug everything in the right order) the Note 3 screen shuts off and it runs as a proper CPU with output to the flat screen...but even with the samsung 2 amp charger plugged in I still lose about 1% battery every 5 minutes... better than running without the charger but that s$#t can't be good for the battery running that hard and charging at the same time AND losing the battle.
I have used a USB stick with many different Samsung phones, and when the USB stick is inserted, a window pops up on the phone, and you can transfer files back and forth.
My friend's V10 works this way.
But on my V20, and now V30, there is no response at all to inserting a USB stick. If I connect The V20 or V30 to a PC with a USB cable, files can be transferred as expected. But inserting a USB stick doesn't work.
I've tried various settings on the phone (multi-media host, etc) and nothing changes it.
Has anyone else tried this? Can you read a USB stick?
Could you try going to Settings>Storage and see if you can see the USB stick there?
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Thanks for your suggestion. The storage screen shows internal memory and an SD card, but not the USB stick. I posted this same question a year ago about the V20, and didn't get much feedback then, either. Maybe it's not common for people to use a USB stick with their phone.
Maybe try one of the usb otg reader apps on the play store
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Maybe try one of the usb otg reader apps on the play store
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I remember when I got a pixel several years ago, and I had to use this.
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https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=eu.chainfire.stickmount
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to see the stick...
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( hope this helps )
Thanks for the app suggestions. I tried a couple OTG readers with no success. Stickmount sounds promising, but it requires root, so I can't try it just yet.
Could you please try with an external harddisk and let us know if that works?
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Mine works. When I put drive in, it asked how I wanted to recognize the usb device (Charge, power supply, media, photos, etc). I kept it on power supply and my drive is mounted and available.
There might be a couple things to look at...
1. Is your dongle/cable data capable? WIth USB C, there are some differences with USB 2/3 and only charge capable.
2, Have you tried messing with the developer settings for USB? You can try to force it to data instead of charge.
What file system is the USB flash memory formatted for?
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Mine works. When I put drive in, it asked how I wanted to recognize the usb device (Charge, power supply, media, photos, etc). I kept it on power supply and my drive is mounted and available.
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Thank you.
I use one of these:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01AUKU1OO/
and my phone recognizes USB flash drives with no issue.
i have a note 5 and V20 and now the V30 (well i just got rid of the note 5 and v20 but had did testing on both ports previously).
i have a usb to otg cable. i also have a RTL-SDR device. from the play store i downloaded the rtl-sdr driver and sdrtouch app (did this to all my phones).
the rtl-sdr dongle was not recognized on the V30 and i would really love to know how to fix this.
the v20 and note 5 and currently my note 3 all worked with no problem.
i wonder since i now have to use my lg g5 type-c to female micro-usb adapter that it makes it not work correctly?
maybe we need a usb 2 otg cable that has usb type-c on the end?
otg or host mode not working 100%
Hi,
just got my V30 plus H930DS (nice shiny blue actually ) and plugged in a couple of usb flash drives and a multi adapter card reader and nothing.
But... just picked a AUKEY USB 3 to USB-A adapter cable and instantly recognised a 4gb flash drive.
Tried another 16GB flash drive but got a message about needing to fix it. As there was not much on there I said yes, warning that everything will be deleted, then 2 seconds later, message says its ok and now working fine for copy copy/paste.
The flash drive was formatted by the phone to FAT32 (it was ntfs before)
I also tried exFAT formatted from windows and that worked so that would help with >4GB files.
The bottom line is that you need a good make cable which is specifically for USB-3 and either FAT 32 or exFAT. Best bet is to plug in the flash drive and if the phone wants to format it then do it that way.
Just a heads up, i know both the samsung OTG adapter and the pixel 2 OTG adapter work with the v30. I use them myself.
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Just a heads up, i know both the samsung OTG adapter and the pixel 2 OTG adapter work with the v30. I use them myself.
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Hi,
ah, that was my next question
I also have a cheap adapter that doesn't work.
Will get one of those above also.
Do lg not have any branded goodies?
gazzacbr said:
Hi,
ah, that was my next question
I also have a cheap adapter that doesn't work.
Will get one of those above also.
Do lg not have any branded goodies?
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Only the V30+ comes with some goodies, which is the B&O play headphones. I get to unbox all the new phones as part of my job and I end up with adapters from all sorts of devices.
I prefer the Pixel OTG as it works with a case on and seems very durable.
All of my OTG drives, which I used on my HTC M8, work on the V30 also. If it doesn't tell you it's working, go to settings and mount it.
Wotta said:
All of my OTG drives, which I used on my HTC M8, work on the V30 also. If it doesn't tell you it's working, go to settings and mount it.
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Hi, I have double ended Sandisk flash disks which only work with the AUKEY adapter cable usb a, not with a usb c adapter.
I don't see any where in settings to mount it
Very fussy is this LG
EDIT: have bought some small UGREEN adapters and everything works as expected now.