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Hello all,
In your opinions, what is the most stable and bug free rom out for the gtab right now? I have Gadam right now as my daily, but looking for another to switch
between, but I don't want to make the wrong choice.
I really liked TnT Lite, but it doesn't see PEAP authenticated wireless networks. Running Vegan 5.11 now, it runs well too but I've had intermittent issues with the apps market.
To be honest they all have their bugs, you just have to find the right rom that fits your needs. I started with tnt lite when I first got my gtab from woot. I was getting alot of apps fc'ing so I tried vegan tab 5.1.1 then got bored so I tried caulkins which had some issues. Also tried vegan gingerbread which i really like but couldn't play videos so now I'm back to vegan 5.1.1 which is the most stable and works best for my needs.
Sent from my VEGAn-TAB-v1.0.0b5.1.1 using Tapatalk
+1 on VEGAn 5.1.1.
If the rom just working and not having a bunch of force closes is boring then this is not the rom for you. However, if you just want your gTab to be fast and reliable then this is the rom for you.
I'm loving Vegan 7 RC1. It's Gingerbread based so you don't get blazing fast hardware video decoding, but thus far that isn't a feature I use. For browsing the web, streaming the news (video or audio) Wifi location support, etc etc it is AWESOME.
Another one for vegan. I like more the UI of tapntap, looks more like a tablet, but doesn't work as smooth as vegan. Just waiting for Vegan 7 to have the video drivers.
+1 for VEGAn 5.1.1
Keep the opinions coming.
I've been on Vegan Tab and is nice though I do get FC's on more than a rare occasion.
It does not auto rotate the home screen; since we all know the gtab does have the best viewing angles, I frequently flip it around, but every time I go back to home screen its upside down.
Does TnT Lite auto rotate home screen? Which other ROMs do?
Riccarr said:
I've been on Vegan Tab and is nice though I do get FC's on more than a rare occasion.
It does not auto rotate the home screen; since we all know the gtab does have the best viewing angles, I frequently flip it around, but every time I go back to home screen its upside down.
Does TnT Lite auto rotate home screen? Which other ROMs do?
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I'm using launcher pro with auto rotate enable and it works fine. Rotates to all side, up, down, left, right. Maybe you have to check your launcher?
sjmoreno said:
+1 on VEGAn 5.1.1.
If the rom just working and not having a bunch of force closes is boring then this is not the rom for you. However, if you just want your gTab to be fast and reliable then this is the rom for you.
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+1 VEGAn 5.1.1 it is fast stable and runs circles around the stock ROM.
I couldn't comprehend using anything other than the Calkulin+Clemsyn OC Combo. It provides what I believe to be the best ROM (Calkulin) with the best kernel (Clemsyn 1.5Ghz OC) in a single package. If you think VEGAn 5.1.1 is fast, try this combo, it will blow you away.
Fast but no stable and somethings doesn't work like gps tethering, Bluetooth file transfer, etc... so faster doesn't mean always better.
spikkle said:
I'm loving Vegan 7 RC1. It's Gingerbread based so you don't get blazing fast hardware video decoding, but thus far that isn't a feature I use. For browsing the web, streaming the news (video or audio) Wifi location support, etc etc it is AWESOME.
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+1 for Gingerbread based rom, seem like custom build rom are better than Froyo almost emulator rip... Eventually they will be the one to use!
Gojimmy has done a very good work with his custom launcher!
Calkulin / Clemsyn is also a very good choice
I can't believe that more love hasn't been shown for Calkulin and Clemsyn. I am running Calkulin's 1.1 with an unreleased version 10 of Clemsyn and it is smoking fast, stable (no sleep issues), and plays videos flawlessly (rock player light).
For my purposes, it does everything better than Vegan 5.1.1 which I loved before.
I am tempted by the new combo rom that Clemsyn is now supporting but I am generally a "if it ain't broke don't fix it" kinda guy.
I would be tempted to try a gingerbread rom if NVidia supports it with drivers.
Riccarr said:
I've been on Vegan Tab and is nice though I do get FC's on more than a rare occasion.
It does not auto rotate the home screen; since we all know the gtab does have the best viewing angles, I frequently flip it around, but every time I go back to home screen its upside down.
Does TnT Lite auto rotate home screen? Which other ROMs do?
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Gojimi's free launcher looks fantastic and does auto-rotate the home screen.
Am I missing something?
sumdumdude said:
I couldn't comprehend using anything other than the Calkulin+Clemsyn OC Combo. It provides what I believe to be the best ROM (Calkulin) with the best kernel (Clemsyn 1.5Ghz OC) in a single package. If you think VEGAn 5.1.1 is fast, try this combo, it will blow you away.
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I've read several people on this thread and others that say such and such rom is faster than such and such other rom. Seriously, what do you guys do on your gTabs that you keep having to jump on the next "fastest" benchmark screenshot? I really don't get it so can someone give me some real life examples so I can understand? Is it purely for bragging rights or what?
I'm running VEGAn 5.1.1 now but before that I tried a few TnT variants and nothing I used my gTab for seemed to be noticibly affected by one or another flavor of rom except for stability.
I use the hell out my gTabs by the way. I watch videos I've ripped, play games like Samurai 2: Vengeance, use remote desktop software to access work computers to do work, create and modify Office documents, and use Flash to watch videos on sites like Fox Television and HULU.
So I just want to know why I should be jumping to a new rom or kernel release every day. And yes I know about pershoot's overclock kernel too which would let you show your buddies a screenshot with crazy fast numbers on a benchmark.
If you're not a newbie and flashing something new everyday makes you feel complete then by all means, do it, we need folks like you to flush out bugs for the cookers to fix. But I feel like we've got a lot of new members that joined us recently that aren't all that experienced at modding and steering them in directions of roms or kernel hacks that are either unnecessary or not very stable for most users' everyday needs is irresponsible.
That's my humble opinion and I'll get of my soapbox now.
Really torn between Calkulin and Clemsyn, and vegan now. I care more about stable and less bugs/problems then speed.
Since going to Vegan Ginger period, I have had zero issues. Granted, mine is for recreational use at the moment so nvflashing often isnt an issue. Not to take anything away from Calkulin, both ROMs seemed just as stable/fast for my daily use. The deciding factor then was look, feel, and (for me) settings. lol Vegan and gojimi's VTL Launcher lets me customize practically anything.
+1 Vegan RC, but to each their own. You wont find whats best for your setup in this thread, not until you try each ROM and see for yourself.
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Really torn between Calkulin and Clemsyn, and vegan now. I care more about stable and less bugs/problems then speed.
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If you plan on using it to play videos then go with something Froyo as none of the Gingerbread ROM's have hardware acceleration so video will be choppy.
I noticed a thread about "The best ROM"...When I recently purchased my gTablet, I was wondering the same thing. I realize that best is subjective and started to do my homework on finding out what works best for me. I am not sure I found that, but I do like the ROM that I currently have, so best or not, I am happy. It occurs to me though, that others will have a similar question. From people who have used more of these ROMs than I have can we put together a list of ROMs, and what they were built to do?
Like anything, there are compromises, and developers need to make decisions along the way. They can chose to optimize this or that, perhaps not both due to some constraints, time, resources, etc. So, I guess I am asking, what ROMs are optimized for what?
Is there a ROM that plays games better than others?
Is there a ROM that plays video better than others?
Is there a ROM that is screaming fast compared to others?
Is there a ROM that allows for more customization that others?
I do not know what the exact criteria is, or what people are looking for from their tablets. I bought mine as a toy. I wanted to play with it and muck around (something I was not willing to do with my phone, well because it is my phone and if I broke it, I would not be happy).
I think that apps were the most important thing to me. I wanted a ROM that was stable and could play lots of apps. I ended up choosing the VEGAn Gingerbread ROM. I know the camera does not work for anything. I believe it has issue with videos, but the apps work great. I am good with this combination.
So, again I ask (after dribbling on and on) what ROMs are optimized for what?
really, the biggest diffierences are the interfaces, but honestly, changing the launcher can accomplish a GUI change in just about any rom.
essentially, there are 2 Android versions available for a stable rom, Froyo (TNT Lite, Vegan 5.1.1, and Calkulin I think, never used it, so I'm not sure) and Gingerbread (Vegan Ginger, and CM7). There should be major differences between Froyo based roms, and Gingerbread based roms. One similarity between them is that they are both designed for phones, not tablets. Changing a launcher will help give it a tablet optimized feel.
I currently use Brillian Corners (1.2 based Vegan 5.1.1 Rom) with Launcher Pro. I use Launcher Pro simply becuase I like the customizable LP widgets. VTL Launcher (a custom version of ADW, basically) is a Launcher that's been modified for tablets.
In addition to the roms themselves, there are custom kernels, that optimize the performance of the machines. Pershoot and Clemsyn are the foremost experts in custom kernel development and tweaking.
So, you can choose a rom based on your needs...as you mentioned, apps. Vegan 5.1.1 worked well for me, to run apps. I had flashed Clemsyn's kernel to run with it. I could still watch videos if hte need would arise, and the camera worked...but honestly, how good can a 1.3 MP camera work on ANY rom...
Anyway, I then flashed to Brilliant Corners to move to the 1.2 dev branch. Roebeet discovered that pershoots Adam kernal already worked, so he had him port it over and include it in the install. So, now, I basically have the same exact setup I had before, only on a 1.2 dev branch for future flashing ease.
I'm running LauncherPro, since I didn't much care for the VTL Launcher's lack of widgets.
Vegan Ginger and CM7 wouldn't work for me, since I do need video support, to keep the 7 year old busy when I want him to calm down.
In any case, customization is the key. You can have any rom, with any kernel, and find what works for you.
The only Rom available that is specifically designed for tablets is Honeycomb. There is no official version, and I didn't include it as an option above becuase it's still in Alpha stage. I wouldn't recomend it for anyone that wants an everyday Rom. It's mainly good for people that want to test it, and assist in the developemnt of it. Once all the bugs are worked out, OpenGl drivers are found, and it's tweaked for optimum performance, then it's a no brainer to go to it. It's made for tablets, it's powerful, and with the correct video driver optimization, it will be, by far, the best Rom available.
This is why I try to encourage people to go to the 1.2 dev branch if they plan on flashing a "legacy" Rom like TNT Lite, or Vegan 5.1.1. If they go to the 1.2 equalivilent, then they are halfway to Honeycomb when it get's ironed out.
if you plan on sticking with Gingerbread, then by all means, stay with 1.1, and use Vegan Ginger or CM7.
What do you think is the best rom/ theme in our opinions and why?
Keep the speed, looks, features, etc. in mind!
Thanks.
I've landed on Calkulin+Clemsyn 1.5ghz Froyo Combo VERSION 6 (1.2 Boot Loader)
It's overclocked to 1.5ghz and runs smoother than anything I've played with yet. It's based on the stock rom but obviously modified to remove the crap. The stock rom has some nice features which you miss out on when moving to a more phone oriented version of froyo or ginger. Little things like the way combo boxes display on websites...
The battery life is surprisingly good. Feels as good as Vegan or TNT Lite to me, and I haven't yet delved into undervolting.
I've used every rom out there except the honeycomb ones. I am currently using vegan ginger oc to 1.2ghz. That said, the one that has the best performance has to be calkulin+clemsyn oc to 1.2ghz hands down.
I say 1.2 ghz instead of 1.5ghz is because I'm putting into account the battery performance. Calkulin's rom is already really really fast without oc. Everything about it is just smooth as hell. In fact, I think I'll go back to calkulin+clemsyn oc combo later this week. For me, performance beats the latest and greatest.
well thanks a bunch guys guess thats how I'm starting off once i root this baby
Any themes to lay accross it?
I've tried all of them 1.1 and 1.2 opted for Beasty's ROM (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1084573). I recently tried G-Harmony Gingerbread 2.3.4 but it seemed slow and experienced unexpected FCs but the potential for USB GPS use forces me to keep an eye on that release. Until then, I'll stick with Beasty's ROM.
I've been patiently waiting for a reasonable Honeycomb ROM like everyone else here seems to be. Tried to get Illuminated, but the WiFi never worked for me, no matter what fixes I tried. I ended up (happily) with Bottle of Smoke 4.1 which still has a few minor issues, but it is a welcome change from the stock Tap-N-Taps I have been living with. Now that Viewsonic has clearly abandoned us, I fealt it was due time to hit the Custom ROMs and for now BoS is acceptable for my everyday use. (Fixes will come in time)
raskell, I, too, have been interested in the Illuminate ROM and was close to giving it a spin tonight but the feedback I've read gave me enough reason to hang tight with Beasty. It does seem the HC choices are getting more and more stable, though. The community effort for this is unreal.
I got my wife a gtablet from a member from this forum.
It came with older version of G Harmony and some of the soft buttons weren't working. That's fine, wiped, wiped and wiped again and then installed the latest.
Now I'm noticing it's having problems with going into sleep and not waking up. (not all the time but often)
I did the do not sleep from the setting screen and still the same thing.
Now I need a rom that she can use daily without any issues with youtube and hulu working and all the videos working great.
Any suggestions? or did I get a dud?
Any overclocked froyo version will do just fine. Stay away from CM7 as there has been a huge number of reports of problems coming from that end.
full wipe everything and vegan 5.1.1 oughtta set you straight
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1024120
Has been my daily driver for a few months with no problems. No sleep issues and excellent battery life. Only issue is that alternate keyboards require a manual install (moving the apk file from one dir to another)
good intention: thanks
Hey orangekid, we used to come across from ppcgeeks a while back I believe around winmo days.
Thanks for the info.
Isn't vegan ginger at rc1 7.0 atm? any cons?
brettdwagner: any cons from that rom? I see that it's already over-clocked from the get go. How is that? any issues?
what is this alternative keyboard you speak of? lol. I have no idea what you said.
goodintentions said:
Any overclocked froyo version will do just fine. Stay away from CM7 as there has been a huge number of reports of problems coming from that end.
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I pretty new to this hobby. Having very good luck with:
Calkulin + Clemsyn Combo V6.
I'd start at goodintentions website:
http://viewsonic-gtablet-for-dummies.webs.com/
and go from there.
Have fun...
Thanks just downloaded v6 from his site and going to lock horns now.
siptang said:
what is this alternative keyboard you speak of? lol. I have no idea what you said.
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What he is talking about are keyboards that oyu can download from the market. They'll be different colors, different layouts, etc. One that I like has a voice and gesture input method.
on most roms, all that's needed to change the keyboard is to long tap on the text area, then activate the new keyboard. In Calkulin Clemysn, it's much different, as the stock keyboard is in the system files, and needs to be switched with the new one for it to work...
I personally have no issues with Calk's stock keyboard, so I haven't bothered changing it.
http://viewsonic-gtablet-for-dummie...2-04-replace-soft-keyboard-in-tnt-based-roms-
Here is a link to my how-to page to switch keyboards in TnT based froyo roms.
siptang said:
good intention: thanks
Hey orangekid, we used to come across from ppcgeeks a while back I believe around winmo days.
Thanks for the info.
Isn't vegan ginger at rc1 7.0 atm? any cons?
brettdwagner: any cons from that rom? I see that it's already over-clocked from the get go. How is that? any issues?
what is this alternative keyboard you speak of? lol. I have no idea what you said.
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Yeah ppcgeeks back in the diamond days, I still hang out there too
Vegan 5.1.1 is better because it's froyo and not GB.
Froyo has hardware acceleration and GB does not, so that's why I went with that. You can go RC17.0 but I don't really see what it has to offer over the 2.2 version and it's not as fast or snappy.
I am personally running CM 7.1.0 Nightly and it seems to work great. No real issues that I notice. What is so much better with Froyo? I don't watch hi-def video so then full hardware acceleration isn't really an issue for me, correct?
Basically, I'm trying to figure out the tradeoffs between froyo and gingerbread roms.
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I am personally running CM 7.1.0 Nightly and it seems to work great. No real issues that I notice. What is so much better with Froyo? I don't watch hi-def video so then full hardware acceleration isn't really an issue for me, correct?
Basically, I'm trying to figure out the tradeoffs between froyo and gingerbread roms.
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I used CM7.1 and it had a few quirks. The app drawer sometimes lagged while open, sometimes things lagged just a tiny bit. Overall it's a good ROM, but netflix was fubar.
I am currently on CM7.03, netflix works, a few bugs but not too bad, I can take the tradeoff.
Froyo is VERY snappy, no bugs for me, seems faster than a SGT actually. Video playback is awesome, and some HD games.
My personal favorite is CM7.03 for netflix and CM goodies.
Netflix is working great for me with 7.1. Had to mod the build.prop file but otherwise great. Does the interface look much different between froyo and gingerbread?
I guess this probably won't much of a deal once there is a good, stable HC rom to use. The interface is just too slick to pass up (once basically everything is working well). Actually gtabcomb sounds like it is getting pretty close (except video acceleration and the camera).
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Netflix is working great for me with 7.1. Had to mod the build.prop file but otherwise great. Does the interface look much different between froyo and gingerbread?
I guess this probably won't much of a deal once there is a good, stable HC rom to use. The interface is just too slick to pass up (once basically everything is working well). Actually gtabcomb sounds like it is getting pretty close (except video acceleration and the camera).
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there's no hardware acceleration in GB either.
So I tried both Calc's + kernel and vegan +pershoot kernel rom.
Both are very snappy and responsive but found cons with few.
Vegan rom with pershoot kernel has the slow to wake issue with me having to have to double click on the power button to turn on.
Calc's rom with clemsyn kernel is great but at low battery, it starts to crawl.
It doesn't feel like 1.2ghz but more like 300mhz and it was still near 50%.
Wifi takes forever to turn back on.
Any tweaks that you guys can recommend ?
Where do you see the hardware acceleration difference? Really just with high def movies?
Siptang, can't you go into the performance settings and change how it behaves at low battery levels?
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Where do you see the hardware acceleration difference? Really just with high def movies?
Siptang, can't you go into the performance settings and change how it behaves at low battery levels?
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It crawls when I'm just browsing files from the app drawer.
On which rom does it have performance settings?
edit: found the answer to my previous question.
I bought a gtab for my son back in January and, with the help of this forum, rooted it and installed the vegan-tab 5.1.1. Sin then it has been the perfect little tab for him (and me). Is it worth looking into the HC roms now available. I would have to upgrade the boot loader as well but it looks like there are plenty of helpfull instructions on the forum to help me with that. I guess the question is are the HC roms that much better than the nicely running Vegan-Tab we are using right now?
GooseCopVid said:
I bought a gtab for my son back in January and, with the help of this forum, rooted it and installed the vegan-tab 5.1.1. Sin then it has been the perfect little tab for him (and me). Is it worth looking into the HC roms now available. I would have to upgrade the boot loader as well but it looks like there are plenty of helpfull instructions on the forum to help me with that. I guess the question is are the HC roms that much better than the nicely running Vegan-Tab we are using right now?
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It's not even close. Once you install HC you'll wonder what took you so long.
Calk Clem V6 Overclocked to 1.5ghz is still the best daily driver imo. It's froyo based and is just too fast and stable for me to move on from.
GtabComb runs on either BL.
I've tried pretty much all of the roms available for the gtab. While I like the look and feel of the HC roms, I tend to go back to Froyo or Gingerbread as they are more stable and run properly. Check into apps that you want to run and whether Flash is important to you.
Flashlight is a new one for me as of tonight and seems fast without issue with any apps yet. Beastrom is one of my favorites.
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I like the HW acceleration in 2.2 but people over on Slate droid are making a HW accelerated HC port.
If you want a working camera and good general performance, then Calk Clem V6 Overclocked to 1.5ghz is a good choice, I run VEGanTAB 7.1 BL 1.2 Overclocked to 1.5ghz with working camera, latest ADW EX, Adobe flash and market. Both are super fast and UI similar to Froyo. I personally prefer the old UI over HC.