This is my latest MOD/ROM. Based on MIUI version 1.4.15 (gingerbread).
This work ONLY on .49 or .52 basebands. You can download baseband HERE.
This is a port based on Jerpelea (CM7), TripNRaVeR(MIUI) and Formel-LMS(HOLY GRAIL)
HOW-TO
Factory Reset (Full Wipe);
Wipe Dalvik Cache (Advanced options > Wipe Dalvik Cache);
[MIUI][REL04-18]gingerbread_v1.4.15[Alpha0.1].zip;
Reboot;
Go to Dev Tools > Bad Behavior > Crash System Server
Enjoy
CREDITS TO:
Jerpelea;
TripNRaVeR;
cobrato;
Wolfbreak;
rdannar
Formel-LMS;
MIUI developers;
all involved on developing/cracking GB to our phone
KNOWN BUGS
Apps2SD;
When reboot with PC/Phone connected you must unplug/plug USB;
Camera/Video
???
INCLUDED
sysctl;
Hack to improve sdcard access (4096);
More to come
DOWNLOADS
Upload screenshots latter
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If you like my work, do not be shy. Pay me a drunk and i appreciate that Leave my wife and kids at home and here i come.
Just press donate button
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Thanks to all donors that have contributed
Regards,
Rendeiro
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ive used your roms for the longest time outa anyones....always worked
switched to miui recently
wanna see what you can bring to miui
themes apply just fine......just dont "fully" theme.....sms etc...
same prob trip is facing.....market wont download on data......but will on wifi
kr3g3r said:
themes apply just fine......just dont "fully" theme.....sms etc...
same prob trip is facing.....market wont download on data......but will on wifi
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Offcourse!! Because its my rom!
This is it. My roms will never go public anymore. What a rip off!
My roms will go public again when this guy builds something on his own, not just copy past from roms and put it in a new zip file.
U r right Trip
TripNRaVeR said:
Offcourse!! Because its my rom!
This is it. My roms will never go public anymore. What a rip off!
My roms will go public again when this guy builds something on his own, not just copy past from roms and put it in a new zip file.
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+1 for ppl who just 'MOD' your roms when no permission is even asked and are still in development
-1 for your roms not going public anymore
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He gives trip and others credit. Rend is good at providing updates and fixes constantly. Why does it matter what he does with it as long as he gives credit where it is due?
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Keep up the great work rendeiro!
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@TripNRaVeR
TripNRaVeR said:
Offcourse!! Because its my rom!
This is it. My roms will never go public anymore. What a rip off!
My roms will go public again when this guy builds something on his own, not just copy past from roms and put it in a new zip file.
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@ALL
sorry for this post... but i think i need to say this in public
@TripNRaVeR
Trip seriously u should be happy that ppl are using ur work...
i dont get it why u do this all the time?
everyone appreciates ur work... all users are happy that u are completing one rom at a time.. heck even i am using ur rom TripNMiUI for a few days now...
why is this a problem that other modders/chefs are using content from ur rom/release? the chef (rendeiro2005) has given credit to u...
i dont want to bring up old stuff... but this is really unprofessional of u...
who is saying dont work on ur rom?
why u going after other chefs like rendeiro2005 & cobrato???
this is really really sad... no one is forcing anyone to NOT use ur rom... so why should it be a problem that ppl start off with modding existing roms? as long as the chef provides support for it (which i presume most chefs are doing)...
Well said Doomlord. I know i'm not a developer, but I am IT and this is what open-source and community is all about. This is healthy competition that benefits the users and the developers(through healthy competition).
The spoiled brat thing has no good place here....IMO.
The [OP] has clearly given credit to all the developers..!! war between developers isn't gonna help any development.. anyone should be allowed to modify already made roms WITH DUE CREDIT TO THE REAL DEVELOPER OFCOURSE...
After all android is an open source platform..!!
this will be my ONLY and final comment:
1st. i clearly call this a MOD/ROM (1st line for those how have eye problems)
2nd. i give proper credits to all (i think) from 11th line (for those how have eye problems))
3rd. i ALWAYS give credit for those who deserve it. exactly the opposite of what Trip do (i.e. cobrato develop a few things for Trip [i`m sure he use it, and...great!!!] do you give ANY credit?! or even post the right link to the solution presented by him?!
Do you EVER give ANY credit to Z´s stuff or J`s?! (at least J`s ask for sorrow after he had to use your files cause his PC had broken a few months ago, yes after you say something, he just forgot).
4th. if someone don`t know how to live in a free community maybe you should learn something from other devs or maybe i and many of us should buy another phone so that way you can dev for some (thousands) instead of hundred thousands.
5th. you developed something? yes. definitely! do you share ANYTHING?! maybe you should learn from rdannar HERE. at least he described HOW!!!....learn!
6th. Do you give ANY credit for those who REALLY developed MIUI roms? i haven`t see it.
7th do you invent the wheel?
FINAL WORDS: at least i ALWAYS give credits for those who deserve it. do you?
EDIT: i just forgot something else. Do you realize how many threads/post because of you exist in this X10 forum?! it`s funny don`t you think?
Cheers
Ricardo
TripNRaVeR said:
Offcourse!! Because its my rom!
This is it. My roms will never go public anymore. What a rip off!
My roms will go public again when this guy builds something on his own, not just copy past from roms and put it in a new zip file.
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I talked to ricardo about how to make these roms before yours was even available. Check my MIUI rom that was released around a week or so go. I have figured out how to port this before yours was even released. don't blame the OP for figuring out stable ways to mod and port roms.
On a side note you do great work developing roms and update them quickly. you should be proud of your work and the many people that appreciate it instead of always finding the negative in forum members.
@ricardo haven't had time to set up github. will pm you on the new project idea
Funny that it's a formel /trip /cobrato combo, I believe trip want happy his rom was used in the tripmuni/formel rom cobrato used. And now this hmm trip only just put his new rom up and has been working like a nutta on it to make it work.
This rom seems to me to be just taking the piss, it's more of a statement than a rom. I would be pissed off if I was coding and someone was repackaging my hard work into there's even before I had finished my project.
I know you credit Trip, but you must have known he wouldn't be cool about this, so I think it a big FU trip.
What you have done is put a jacket on his WIP
Having said that I use formel/tripmuni cobrato mid as it's faster and actually has real fixes, so it improves the original, don't see this does. Just an opinion though
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TripNRaVeR said:
Offcourse!! Because its my rom!
This is it. My roms will never go public anymore. What a rip off!
My roms will go public again when this guy builds something on his own, not just copy past from roms and put it in a new zip file.
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Trip as a developer == Awesome
Trip as a person == a bit tense
I can't speak for anyone else, but I would probably handled this differently. I am certain a PM to Rich would have sufficed. C'mon guys, we are all in this together, and like many threads before have demonstrated, public confrontations are bad for everyone, the devs, the users, and most of all, our beloved x10 phones.
i wonder how long windows 8 will be out if each programmer work for themself and NOT share ideas. haha
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@ALL
sorry for this post... but i think i need to say this in public
@TripNRaVeR
Trip seriously u should be happy that ppl are using ur work...
i dont get it why u do this all the time?
everyone appreciates ur work... all users are happy that u are completing one rom at a time.. heck even i am using ur rom TripNMiUI for a few days now...
why is this a problem that other modders/chefs are using content from ur rom/release? the chef (rendeiro2005) has given credit to u...
i dont want to bring up old stuff... but this is really unprofessional of u...
who is saying dont work on ur rom?
why u going after other chefs like rendeiro2005 & cobrato???
this is really really sad... no one is forcing anyone to NOT use ur rom... so why should it be a problem that ppl start off with modding existing roms? as long as the chef provides support for it (which i presume most chefs are doing)...
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+1
Im sick of this ****. Someone just lost all ny respect today.
Rendeiro2005 - keep up the work buddy.
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TripNRaVeR said:
Offcourse!! Because its my rom!
This is it. My roms will never go public anymore. What a rip off!
My roms will go public again when this guy builds something on his own, not just copy past from roms and put it in a new zip file.
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TripN everyone appreciates what u done so far, ,
No one is riping u off .. thy give the cridt to u in the first place ..
But truly thy should take ur pormision ..
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ANDROID is open source... as long as credit is given, the source can be modified and i see no justification on TRIP being pissed on use of his rom...
In the spirit of openness I suggest both to get over this issue and continue doing their dev work...
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I've got thick skin so feel free to throw things.
Watching the forum over the last month I've seen a proliferation of ROMs to the point that I've stopped updating - also partly because my favorite and second favorite teams have stopped putting out new versions. I finally succumbed to the burning urge to try another ROM last night but ended up with buyers "meh."
The ROM environment has become so fragmented that it's hard to know what the advantage of ROM a is over ROM b other than appearance.
A comment from one of the ROM makers brought the problem into sharp focus. "I've renamed my ROM because I didn't know one of my team members already had a ROM named X."
How can you be part of a "team" and not know what's being produced by that team?
It seems like we've got more themers producing work in the form of full ROMs rather than themes. I've got nothing against themers, I love packages that can completely change the look of my device and I'm always on the lookout for cool new themes.
I'd rather see ROM maintainers and themers working together where the former group produces faster and more reliable ROMs while the latter group produces mods for those ROMs.
Do the two groups just not want to work closely together or are there predominantly just mostly lone wolves working at the ROM/theme level in Android?
Wrong section. Suppose to go in q&a (QUESTIONS and answers)
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I disagree because it's directly applicable to development and is aimed at the developers. It's not a general q/a question
I agree with this. There's no need to make a "rom" if you just change the theme. Just make a theme and zip it up then post it in the themes section. And oh yea I believe people refer to these people as "winzippers".
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OP has a great point about our forum here. Ive really stopped doing anything but for my own use, and with the exception of a few real roms put here, I've watched our Vibrant area here turn into a rom porting paradise, without a lot of original work done by people calling themselves devs. Several of these self proclaimed devs have asked me for help with recent projects, and have then been unable to provide even a simple logcat for diagnosis. If someone cant pull a logcat or understand how to do other basics, you really need to take your time and learn.
It is okay to theme and do little things while you learn, and take the time to put out a quality product, instead of a hurried build thats half broken. We have a slight handful of true devs out here, and a whole bunch of people who want to learn, but seem to be in too much of a hurry to kang others work and not really learn how to build a rom from the ground up. Its a damn shame.
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I agree with Br1cK'd. There are a lot of "devs" lately that seem to be kanging together half broken ROM's. I can't tell you how often lately I've flashed something only to find major bugs, when the OP claims that the ROM is 100 percent working and bug free. It seems that most of the more skilled developers have moved on to newer devices. I'm all for people learning but they need to do a lot of quality control before they post their work on XDA.
are you tryna say my team member ferhanmm that did an error ? whats up with you son?>
But then... what actually constitutes a "Rom".
For as far as I know, according to CM6/7/Miui people, only theirs are truly "Roms", as they are built from ground up.
Everything else is just a themed stock Rom, or improvements to existing Sammy framework. (Which I still love btw)
If there were malicious Roms that are purposely bricking systems, then I would argue for stricter requirements for releases. But as it stands, I think the openness of this forum allows users and developers alike to find what makes them happy.
I just think in general, Rom devs/maintainers get more credit (Thanks button hits?) than purely themers. As there is a feeling that themers kind of "work for" Rom Devs... Which is why people tend to package their work as Roms instead of themes (So their work seems less derivative or what not)
Wrong section, but I agree.
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Br1cK'd said:
OP has a great point about our forum here. Ive really stopped doing anything but for my own use, and with the exception of a few real roms put here, I've watched our Vibrant area here turn into a rom porting paradise, without a lot of original work done by people calling themselves devs. Several of these self proclaimed devs have asked me for help with recent projects, and have then been unable to provide even a simple logcat for diagnosis. If someone cant pull a logcat or understand how to do other basics, you really need to take your time and learn.
It is okay to theme and do little things while you learn, and take the time to put out a quality product, instead of a hurried build thats half broken. We have a slight handful of true devs out here, and a whole bunch of people who want to learn, but seem to be in too much of a hurry to kang others work and not really learn how to build a rom from the ground up. Its a damn shame.
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first of all about the logcat ? did you learn alone ? i guess that if someone ask you, its nno bad to help is it ? because i bet some one showed you...now about the kang, so almost every rom here is a kang right ? almost all roms based on stocks from i9000s and stocks kb1`s isnt it ?... i guess this people have the right to learn, but seems you guys that already know a little dont like to help huh?
I have more than enough mods on my rom to constitute it not being a theme, and I don't know about you but I don't memorize every rom name out there. It sounded similar so I changed it, what's wrong with that? Since 2.2 has already been tweaked to the max I was able to put out a pretty stable version in the first post. Only things I can really do from here are make it more efficient and finish the theme which I plan to do but I just posted it. And it's my first rom so thanks for the encouragement.
I agree, the forum is filling up with "roms" that are just the same rom rethemed over and over and over again. What annoys me most are these self-proclaimed "devs" who take bits and pieces of other people's work and put them together for their own "rom" when they didn't really write any of it. Just take a look at their credits lol... It's a crazy long list.
I don't think there's anything wrong with having multiple ROMs. After all, everyone will like something different.
I think what the OP is saying though is that there are ROMs out there are essentially the same pieces with different theme, or maybe a new lock screen, and whatnot. I think the OP means little additions like that can be part of a theme or the theme & apps forum and could be added to any ROM and doesn't warrant releasing a new ROM under a new name and new dev.
jimmynguyen91 said:
I agree, the forum is filling up with "roms" that are just the same rom rethemed over and over and over again. What annoys me most are these self-proclaimed "devs" who take bits and pieces of other people's work and put them together for their own "rom" when they didn't really write any of it. Just take a look at their credits lol... It's a crazy long list.
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as my partner said above, hell son you dont undestand, everybody uses tweaks that are made because there is no need to redo it...name me any rom you have created ? do you know about roms? dont be stupid
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I don't think there's anything wrong with having multiple ROMs. After all, everyone will like something different.
I think what the OP is saying though is that there are ROMs out there are essentially the same pieces with different theme, or maybe a new lock screen, and whatnot. I think the OP means little additions like that can be part of a theme or the theme & apps forum and could be added to any ROM and doesn't warrant releasing a new ROM under a new name and new dev.
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+1
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I did my first root about two month ago. Since then I have tried about 20 various roms or updates to them. I tried one last week that seemed to be a copy from an established developer. The other team got really pissy and used alot of immature slang when confronted. I will no longer use any roms from them. I agree that people should learn from the ground up before posting roms and stop the plagiarism.
I appreciate the hard work of the legitimate developers on this site.
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I have more than enough mods on my rom to constitute it not being a theme, and I don't know about you but I don't memorize every rom name out there. It sounded similar so I changed it, what's wrong with that? Since 2.2 has already been tweaked to the max I was able to put out a pretty stable version in the first post. Only things I can really do from here are make it more efficient and finish the theme which I plan to do but I just posted it. And it's my first rom so thanks for the encouragement.
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dont pay attentionn to this ppl fer.. day just stupids ... look at thhe quote i made above.. its just stupid, they want us to redo the same **** that is already made... for example.. whats the need to do a gps fix when jellette made one already ? its just stupid
them may be half a$$ed devs but them gotta have donate button
Bosina & Br1cK'd, first, thanks for your input and participation but this thread isn't about helping or not. It's about packing up thematic changes and publishing them as a ROM rather than a theme bundle.
If a group of members wants to debate about newbies not giving as much as they get, please start a new thread.
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as my partner said above, hell son you dont undestand, everybody uses tweaks that are made because there is no need to redo it...name me any rom you have created ? do you know about roms? dont be stupid
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this dude ha ha shut up im trying to read and your comments are unnecessary and full of hate and You act like You are a Big Time developer who dont take s**t from anyone , go smoke something and relax , i dont see Team Whisky complain or Eugene, just You big time savior .
But if the teams join there will be more people to split the donation money between so maybe thats why people stay separate ?
Dear all
Got my HTC HD2 today,Need ur help guys to share best working rom without any bugs,I want to dual boot my HTC HD2 with Windows 6.5 & Android
Thanks in Advance
munishjoshi said:
Dear all
Got my HTC HD2 today,Need ur help guys to share best working rom without any bugs,I want to dual boot my HTC HD2 with Windows 6.5 & Android
Thanks in Advance
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Congrats bro and welcome aboard.
Just wanted to point out, this is the Dev forum, Q&A going in the General Section.
Anyhow, you Have Sense rom, Sense 2.1 and CM7 (no Sense, other ui such as LaunchPro or ADW).
You got too many choice.
Pick which you want to test first and enjoy flashing once you get addicted.
You could also put more than one Android build on your SD card. So you can test more than one at once without deleted the other.
Whichever you choose, Good luck
PS: Most famous are CM7 builds
Thanks Bro for replying
i m not new into flashing..already flashed so many phone..m already flashing addicted...i saw so many roms in this forums...i just would like to know that which one is bugs freeee
Thanks
munishjoshi said:
i m not new into flashing..already flashed so many phone..m already flashing addicted...i saw so many roms in this forums...i just would like to know that which one is bugs freeee
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Anyone who knows anything about software(or real life for the matter) will tell you - "it does not exist"
You will have a better luck asking what ROMs people are using and would recommend.
it's hard to say which rom doesnt have bugs... try first. i like the rom from MCCM HD 4.0. i'm using it at this time.
I can personally recommend the AmeriCan Android rom, been using it past months and updates makes it better and better ^^
Personally though, uninstall the NetFlix thing right after putting the rom on, it made my HD2 uber slow, the second it was gone, it was back to super speedy
Hi, could somebody please link me the thread where the multiple versions of abdroid is expaned? Thanks
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Just buy a HTC phone with Android like DHD.. That is not any bug.
I personally like and use JAGUARMIUI 5.
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manhktqd said:
Just buy a HTC phone with Android like DHD.. That is not any bug.
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I´ve been running AmeriCanAndroid GB2.3.3 on my HD2 for over 2 months now and have less bugs than my friend with a stock (updated) DHD.
I could recommend this one and version 2.3.4. I suggest you try that one and give it a go. I can't imagine that this ROM is not good. Be sure to read the last 10 pages of the ROM thread to be sure. I think that´s the best way to check if the latest version doesn´t have any significant bugs. Good luck!
American android. You wont look back
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I have used the following SD Builds during the last 3-4 months. Do not want to switch to NAND as I still have some use for WM. Even tried some of the older RAM builds like Darkstone's SuperRAM Froyo. I am giving my preferences below and check my sig for other info.
1. AmericanAndroid, have tried almost every build since it came out.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=957652
The two most recent Builds, 05172011, 05192011 and 05212011 have given me the most issues with significant screen lag and persistent wait periods when using these. I tried them with three different SD cards (4G C2, 8G C4, 8G C6) and still had issues. I am now back to the 05032011 Build which runs superbly on two different SD cards (4G C2, 8G C4). I was surprised to find that the Class 2 SD card was the smoothest although I am sure there are variations based on other factors beyond the scope of my intelligence. Everything works like a charm on 05032011 build except Market acts up sometimes. Follow the link for all Builds by date here: http://uploading.com/linklists/debamfea/ACA
2. May 14 BOYPPC Build
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=970542
is good too but as is usual we all have our personal preferences and I feel more comfortable with AmericanAndroid. This would be my backup if AmericanAndroid goes loopy.
3. Have used MccMBoxMaX Build too.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1038694
I have kept it on a separate SD just in case. Pretty solid build but I am sticking to AmericanAndroid for the time being.
I have tried at least 8 releases for the past 6 mths. From one chef to another chef. But for the past 3 mths, I m using MCCM SE V3.3 . I must say it is stable n fluid. I have also recently tried other GB version from MCCM n other chefs..... but I guess its not really that stable yet. Probably someone can recommend me a stable GB version. Would LOVE to get my hand on one of em.
this isn't to mislead anyone...i feel i've gotta say.....mccm doesn't compile his builds from source. his is completely reliant on switching files around....i have yet to see anything i'd trust for a second from him. he's had previous problems with actual chef's and even developers because he breaks xda's rules and steals builds....this isn't just a warren dislikes mccm thing.
use those builds if you wish......but those very builds are 100% reliant on the taking of someone elses compiled source. if he at least built from source code, he'd get some credibility from me.
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this isn't to mislead anyone...i feel i've gotta say.....mccm doesn't compile his builds from source. his is completely reliant on switching files around....i have yet to see anything i'd trust for a second from him. he's had previous problems with actual chef's and even developers because he breaks xda's rules and steals builds....this isn't just a warren dislikes mccm thing.
use those builds if you wish......but those very builds are 100% reliant on the taking of someone elses compiled source. if he at least built from source code, he'd get some credibility from me.
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@warrenb213, thx for letting us know about this issue. I wasn't aware of it but will treat MccM's work cautiously. I'm going to head over to the AmericanAndroid thread to give you thanks which I should have done some time ago.
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this isn't to mislead anyone...i feel i've gotta say.....mccm doesn't compile his builds from source. his is completely reliant on switching files around....i have yet to see anything i'd trust for a second from him. he's had previous problems with actual chef's and even developers because he breaks xda's rules and steals builds....this isn't just a warren dislikes mccm thing.
use those builds if you wish......but those very builds are 100% reliant on the taking of someone elses compiled source. if he at least built from source code, he'd get some credibility from me.
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Hi... Warrenb long time no see. How can u give comments without thinking . Any proof that i stealing your build ? In xda rules u can post build if the other dev give u permissions . Just after giving permissions then give fake info to Moderator after u realized that i better tweaker than u . I got ban because of warez , big 'thanks' to u . But at the end just live with it . If u want to give comment think carefully please.
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Warrenb213
14th May 2011, 09:51 PM
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I feel like I've got to ask....
Did Tytung approve of this SD-build? I ask because Tytung has experience in this already, I don't know why he/she wouldn't convert the build themselves? lol
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This is the reply from the man him self :
tytung
15th May 2011, 10:37 AM
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Originally Posted by warrenb213
I feel like I've got to ask....
Did Tytung approve of this SD-build? I ask because Tytung has experience in this already, I don't know why he/she wouldn't convert the build themselves? lol
Yes, I approve it.
Thanks to HaPeWe for the time and effort to convert it from NAND ROM.
I have no time to install WM just in order to test SD build.
And I won't like to release a SD version without testing.
That's why I don't release it myself.
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OH man ... feel hurt right
mccmjoon76 said:
Hi... Warrenb long time no see. How can u give comments without thinking . Any proof that i stealing your build ? In xda rules u can post build if the other dev give u permissions . Just after giving permissions then give fake info to Moderator after u realized that i better tweaker than u . I got ban because of warez , big 'thanks' to u . But at the end just live with it . If u want to give comment think carefully please.
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This is the reply from the man him self :
OH man ... feel hurt right
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You were banned for good reason, not once....but twice.
You are NOT CURRENTLY stealing the ACA build because the mod's gave you the choice to take it down or be banned. Wouldn't get too confident. Most of the time, including in our case, you acted before getting permission. I wouldn't be surprised to find out most of your "builds" are the same.
If Tytung approved one of your "hack" builds then that is one example where you did in fact get permission.
What you do though in messing with builds has been observed as quite sloppy, and has proved you to be more of a "theme" applier than anything. I have never seen evidence of anything more than a theme applied. You never have shown source code for the majority of your projects, and when you do it's typically been to a place of no actual value for other folks to check out the source. You can't post people to look @ CM code when your using another dev's compiled source which stems AWAY from the stock CM repo's, for example. But the mod's have been lenient in that regard.
I think carefully before I respond, each and every time. I've not said anything which you could refute, mccm. Or was there something I said more specifically about your technique which you wanted to address?
Tweaker? Sir, if that is what you are then we should give folks like you your own subforum under here, called "Tweaked builds from people that have never compiled a build themselves." ACA is a compiled AND tweaked build, and our files can be found in builds across the HD2 forums.
Any developer which would accept the idea that a fellow not building from source code could make their ROM better than they could themselves, would be kidding themselves and they'd know it.
Nuff said, moving on.
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You were banned for good reason, not once....but twice.
You are NOT CURRENTLY stealing the ACA build because the mod's gave you the choice to take it down or be banned. Wouldn't get too confident. Most of the time, including in our case, you acted before getting permission. I wouldn't be surprised to find out most of your "builds" are the same.
If Tytung approved one of your "hack" builds then that is one example where you did in fact get permission.
What you do though in messing with builds has been observed as quite sloppy, and has proved you to be more of a "theme" applier than anything. I have never seen evidence of anything more than a theme applied. You never have shown source code for the majority of your projects, and when you do it's typically been to a place of no actual value for other folks to check out the source. You can't post people to look @ CM code when your using another dev's compiled source which stems AWAY from the stock CM repo's, for example. But the mod's have been lenient in that regard.
I think carefully before I respond, each and every time. I've not said anything which you could refute, mccm. Or was there something I said more specifically about your technique which you wanted to address?
Tweaker? Sir, if that is what you are then we should give folks like you your own subforum under here, called "Tweaked builds from people that have never compiled a build themselves." ACA is a compiled AND tweaked build, and our files can be found in builds across the HD2 forums.
Any developer which would accept the idea that a fellow not building from source code could make their ROM better than they could themselves, would be kidding themselves and they'd know it.
Nuff said, moving on.
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Your right man. Move on! Stop interfere the members that want to share about build.. let them judge by their own.
Banned twice! I make history
U should know the ROM or Build is come from Google we are making it works for HD2. U your self are not builder. Or else u won't be here. U will working with Google.
XDA site is about sharing. I don't mind some one here can come out better build then me. i congrat them. Cause members can enjoy the build daily..
By the way,I being thinking to post up my GB build back here again it will be nice right?
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I see this has turned into a bad conversation.
I don't know why you need to quarrel guys, I mean I have no business of meddling but since you've startet arguing I feel I should add a small opinion, knowing I don't have much right to do so:
MCCM's builds don't even run on my device, and Warren's ones work for 5 minutes then corrupt my SD! and yes that includes AmDroid.
it's not SD-related since I'm already using a build that's stable enough to handle 3 days of constant work on the same card.
Both of you guys are great in what they do really, considering the number of users you serve, but I don't think a public thread is the right place to argue. PMs were created for a reason, and there are MODs to complain to and stuff like that.
In my opinion, no matter who's right here, you both are looking bad.
HD2one
It is an older build, but very stable. I get 2970 on quadrant so it takes full advantage of the HD2's power. I've tried new builds, but i always come back.
hi everybody i am workin on custom rom for our beloved ace, almost done wit recovery & deoxed ws working on gettin better battery life & overclockin our processor, i am working on paths of CM nightly builds with as much stuff incorporated frm latest honeycomb version also but i had to sell my SGA to get a new SGS2 not if u guys can help me to get a SGA (Used), i would appreciate it & promise to release a working beta by the end of this month with if u guys are ready to support me here plz do let me know i can give u the details of my paypal account thanking all my fellow aceians here have a great day ahead
& last but not the least a super catchy name for the rom required
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hi everybody i am workin on custom rom for our beloved ace, almost done wit recovery & deoxed ws working on gettin better battery life & overclockin our processor, i am working on paths of CM nightly builds with as much stuff incorporated frm latest honeycomb version also but i had to sell my SGA to get a new SGS2 not if u guys can help me to get a SGA (Used), i would appreciate it & promise to release a working beta by the end of this month with if u guys are ready to support me here plz do let me know i can give u the details of my paypal account thanking all my fellow aceians here have a great day ahead
& last but not the least a super catchy name for the rom required
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it would be nice if you release first your custom rom. For sure many will not help you because of the assurance that maybe your just lying to us.
well this is just my opinion.
Yeah, great, let's each one will create a similar theme, give empty promises and wait for this money)
Hi,
First of all: Thank you for engagement.
But: if we want to help every developer, who wants to buy an Ace for starting develooment, we would get poor. Also Darkyy wanted to have some money for an Ace to start development of Darky ROM. So, please din't missunderstand me, but it's lot of money for a ROM, noone knows how it'll be and if it's as good as told before.
But if I see, the ROM will be good, I'll definetly donate some money to you.
So: I hope to see another good ROM for Ace.
flo-95 said:
Hi,
First of all: Thank you for engagement.
But: if we want to help every developer, who wants to buy an Ace for starting develooment, we would get poor. Also Darkyy wanted to have some money for an Ace to start development of Darky ROM. So, please din't missunderstand me, but it's lot of money for a ROM, noone knows how it'll be and if it's as good as told before.
But if I see, the ROM will be good, I'll definetly donate some money to you.
So: I hope to see another good ROM for Ace.
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100% agree with you.
First, make a good ROM, then ask for money.
You cant ask money for release of ROM(no offence) but when u release the ROM, the Money will obviously pour into ur account and there are many ways to earn from ur ROM. U can Monetize ur link, so that every time ppl download from ur link u get some money.
I c there are more than 130+ Ace users according to poll and many are pouring in daily.
aryan_rulz_1983 said:
hi everybody i am workin on custom rom for our beloved ace, almost done wit recovery & deoxed ws working on gettin better battery life & overclockin our processor, i am working on paths of CM nightly builds with as much stuff incorporated frm latest honeycomb version also but i had to sell my SGA to get a new SGS2 not if u guys can help me to get a SGA (Used), i would appreciate it & promise to release a working beta by the end of this month with if u guys are ready to support me here plz do let me know i can give u the details of my paypal account thanking all my fellow aceians here have a great day ahead
& last but not the least a super catchy name for the rom required
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Name may be as follows.
gingerACE or custACEr
letsurock said:
You cant ask money for release of ROM(no offence) but when u release the ROM, the Money will obviously pour into ur account and there are many ways to earn from ur ROM. U can Monetize ur link, so that every time ppl download from ur link u get some money.
I c there are more than 130+ Ace users according to poll and many are pouring in daily.
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There are still more ace users out there but dont know xda because they come from nokia
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There are still more ace users out there but dont know xda because they come from nokia
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Yeah i know, that y i did mention abt the poll thread.
no rom no money.
good luck with your work .
give us rome we will donate you for sure
can u plz add RTL support
Please share your yet to be complete rom with other developers, that might convince people to donate an ace for you.
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Please share your yet to be complete rom with other developers, that might convince people to donate an ace for you.
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SOunds Good
atleast show some proof... its not like were all idiots who just gonna throw away our hard earned money to just anyone who came by and create soon-to-be-released-roms thread. lol
+1 to all comments. Dude you are not even a xda recognized dev.... how are we suppoed to beleive? I am not being rude. I am just asking.
Don't flame yet in case he really wanted to develop for us.
And i've doubts to the overclocking, the processor is already overclocked at 800 mhz, being originally 600.
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+1 to all comments. Dude you are not even a xda recognized dev.... how are we suppoed to beleive? I am not being rude. I am just asking.
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+1 The author of this thread had started only two threads including this one.
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Yeah, great, let's each one will create a similar theme, give empty promises and wait for this money)
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LOL, but you right. AGREE!
CHEERS!
Dear Community,
I decided to not continue developing for the x-mini pro for now.
Which basically means I will not release any new ROMs and will not provide any more support regarding the old ones.
The decision has been hard but I just can't put up with it anymore. There is a group of people who are very ungrateful and even send cuss at me to release updates or giving support and so on. I am not a slave and I am doing all of this besides my work, university and life. I am doing this in my freetime and I don't need to put up with this.
This doesn' mean everybody in the forums is like that the most people appreciate the work and thank me so let me return the thank you and thank you guys for your support.
Another reason for me leaving is the fact that my work is being used and modified, which is perfectly fine but using the same and calling it faster or better or tweaked or whatever else and later turns out nothing is changed and no credits annoys me.
Besides that I have been working on basically all the core functionality of RomManager and I feel like the project was taken from me while I had my exams and this makes me sad. However this is the only project I will keep working on as it is MY Baby.
As for all the people who supported me, I want to thank you for the great time I had.
As for my Donators I will provide you with links whenever (I don't know when or if) I make a new version for my personal use. Whatever you do with the link is your free decision. So all Donators thank you very much for your support!! I honestly appreciate it!
If I feel like working on ROM's again I'll let you know but for now I need a break from this.
for me your roms have been a pleasure and ive appreciated everything you have done,,i hope your happy in whatever life brings and wish you all the success in the world,take care
slade87 said:
Dear Community,
I decided to not continue developing for the x-mini pro for now.
Which basically means I will not release any new ROMs and will not provide any more support regarding the old ones.
The decision has been hard but I just can't put up with it anymore. There is a group of people who are very ungrateful and even send cuss at me to release updates or giving support and so on. I am not a slave and I am doing all of this besides my work, university and life. I am doing this in my freetime and I don't need to put up with this.
This doesn' mean everybody in the forums is like that the most people appreciate the work and thank me so let me return the thank you and thank you guys for your support.
Another reason for me leaving is the fact that my work is being used and modified, which is perfectly fine but using the same and calling it faster or better or tweaked or whatever else and later turns out nothing is changed and no credits annoys me.
Besides that I have been working on basically all the core functionality of RomManager and I feel like the project was taken from me while I had my exams and this makes me sad. However this is the only project I will keep working on as it is MY Baby.
As for all the people who supported me, I want to thank you for the great time I had.
As for my Donators I will provide you with links whenever (I don't know when or if) I make a new version for my personal use. Whatever you do with the link is your free decision. So all Donators thank you very much for your support!! I honestly appreciate it!
If I feel like working on ROM's again I'll let you know but for now I need a break from this.
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you're one of the best of this community. I understand how you feel. I hope you change your idea as soon as possible,
Regards
It's sad to see developers leave such a small community but I totally understand your reasons. Good bye and good luck in your future projects
slade87 said:
Besides that I have been working on basically all the core functionality of RomManager and I feel like the project was taken from me while I had my exams and this makes me sad. However this is the only project I will keep working on as it is MY Baby.
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Ok bro no prob with that, if that annoys you, ill just stop working on it, but have this clear, my idea was improving it all i can, helping you, not stealing your idea, seems like it's a sin, so good luck and good bye.
Im gonna commit last changes, and then delete sources, you can delete my svn account
If that made feel you sad, think on all the time I put on rom manager, and now i feel like i lost my fkn time on some that wasn't even mine, and you say was taken from you?
I won't never get my time back again
At least i learned some android programming, and thank you for that.
It is sad that you stop you project6 that we all loved, but I understand that.
Life must go on and that is more important than this.
I have really love your work and will wait and hope that you continue whit it.
I wish you all luck.
Danke.
It has been a great time with you here
Hope to see you back some day
Thanks!
Your contribution has been invaluable Slade, as you well know. Churs for all the awesome, bra.
No man! Why! Plz no! Your the greatest developer! Mini pro development forum without you is you bull****! Your roms are the best! CM6 by slade is the best rom i've used! If people copy your project, edit them and upload u shudnt give a ****! Coz whats original will always be original! Plz man no dont leave, ur the best and most helpful dev! Dont leave :'( :'( :'(
Ok bro no prob with that, if that annoys you, ill just stop working on it, but have this clear, my idea was improving it all i can, helping you, not stealing your idea, seems like it's a sin, so good luck and good bye. Im gonna commit last changes, and then delete sources, you can delete my svn account If that made feel you sad, think on all the time I put on rom manager, and now i feel like i lost my fkn time on some that wasn't even mine, and you say was taken from you? I won't never get my time back again At least i learned some android programming, and thank you for that.
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Another reason for me leaving is the fact that my work is being used and modified, which is perfectly fine but using the same and calling it faster or better or tweaked or whatever else and later turns out nothing is changed and no credits annoys me.
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This also includes froyocomb n cyanocomb
I'm quite new to the posting part of these forums, but I've been running your roms for a while now and really liked em a lot, so would like to say thanks for all the effort you've put in
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This also includes froyocomb n cyanocomb
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Cyanocomb it's not based on cyano or slade's cm6 it's directly based on nAa work, anyway, i give credits to slade for anything from him on my roms, also my rom's have a Real improvement, it's not just text without sense, and froyocomb has been discontinued,can you read before talk?. I don't really know if slade it's talking about my roms, but i dont take him work, and no credits, on all my roms he was part of credits. Also for avoid all this, ill directly use nAa sources, like i did on CyaNoComb.
Also watch the way you write, sometimes people can get it offensive or annoy
thanks.
Thanks Slade for all great work you made!
Life continue, and I hope other devs will continue making mini pro roms...
Slade... thankyou for all your hard work. Those who keep plaguing you for updates aren't worth their salt. I started as a novice and managed perfectly fine with your ROMs, every update was a pleasure worth waiting for.
Good luck with your exams and your future!
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Thx Slade for all the nice times,
You learn me how a theme is working and how you can change it, you give me the spirit to do it !
Again Thx for the great roms what i can use for daily .
I hope your exams results are perfect because that is a important base for life.
Good luck and happy life !
Mika
( when you see a fault in my english fix it for your self)
Oh **** ! There goes another one. I can't for the love of everything that's holy understand why some people can't follow a handful of basic, common sense i might add, rules. The worst part is that everyone must now pay for a bunch of idiots who couldn't keep their mouths shut.
Really nice work Slade, u made a difference. Good luck in school and if u have a change of heart u know where to find us. All the best to you mate !
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Thanks for all the good roms n everything.
Hope you have a great life n I hope to see you again.
Thanks!!!
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Holysh*t I'm not gonna let you retire, man.
Just enjoy your vacation and come back after that! I will have some gifts for you at that time
Slade: All the best with whatever you do. You have some serious skills at this, and I hope one day you can find your way back to our humble device.
**** the haters. They're not even worth your time.
Enjoy your vaction/retirement/whatever-you-want-to-call-it.
All the best.
Thank you for all the hard work slade, and good luck in whatever you decide to do next! It makes me genuinley sad that you're leaving, but as I browse around in these fora, I do understand that you feel unappreciated...
Remember though, that some of us read alot more than we write in here, and therefore go quite unnoticed, as opposed to the fellas that post before they think. But we exist and appreciate your work alot! Take care mate.
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Just a few questions I have for you guys over the last couple months I've seen alot of Miui threads openend and ICS opened?
Are you really considered a developer if you just switch a few files from a rom that a actual developer build from source and made it boot on our phone?
Reason I ask because I've talked to a few developers and they tell me that it sucks how porting a miui, ICS rom has become so easy when it took them hours to build from source?
Just want get your guys insight
Not taking shots at no one so don't start crying about it and tell me it took you hours when there are threads everywhere on how to port these.
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None of my work counts as development so copypasta porting doesn't count. If it does, then what I did with the deblur/debloat script should count as a universal ROM for moto android devices.
I've heard people complain about copy and paste devs for a long time. Had alot of drama over it when I had the epic. Bottom line is it still takes know how. You have to know what and where to copy. And it still takes a lot of time. And some of the best roms I've used were from so called copy and paste devs. As long as they give credit to where it came from. Most devs learn from looking at what someone else has done anyway. Bottom line the more roms and devs the better. I appreciate your work here, but I see nothing good coming from a thread like this. No affense.My 2 cents.
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now I'm in no way crying but,.....what's the deal bud.....we do alot more than copy paste my friend every rom I do gets smali edits, I have to decompile/recompile several jars in different builds **** in gummy I have to edit the entire framework.jar just to get market working.....is it built from source, no, do I work hard on it without a doubt yes, i can't understand why you needed to open a thread to try to debunk my work..... reason I say my work .... I worked on miui, bill does it now, and does a pretty damn good job of it too..and you think its only copy paste getting miui working.....lol....that one is a beast of its own...takes several several changes to get our to just freaking boot.....I'm working on 4 ics based on the photon and 4 for the atrix.......and for both phones requires several edits ..... i mean seriously all we're doing is allowing more choices more options more roms..... I think you have a very wrong idea of what actually is done on these roms.....**** if it were only as easy as copy paste ....don't ya think we'd have had more of these roms sooner and made by different people, only reason miui got here is yepitsme gave up I picked up slack and took of with it then handed her off to bill.....so again I say whats the deal bud....should be happy our aging phone is seeing so much activity....now I do apologize if I have went out of line here but I couldn't help but feel a, little attacked here directly....and by two of the guys I freaking looked up to on here....all I can say is wow I guess I should just close my threads then since porting doesn't count..... and to say don't cry and tell you it took hours cause there are guides............who made the thread in the first place and the purpose of it is?? I'm in no way crying but not going to be called out like this and not respond, which your a very smart guy so I know that you knew exactly what would happen in opening a thread like this....sometimes it does take hours copy/paste you have no clue.....every new cm9 joker puts out we have to flash each lib one at a time to se e which one isn't playing nice,.but thats just copy pasting isn't it, edits to the build prop, updater script.....smali edits to numerous files, jars,apks....but thats just copy paste too I guess.....or maybe its how at times we flash each rom several times and troubleshoot each issue everyone has not just release and say nothing....but thats just pasting too....you really have no clue maybe should read a couple of those guides you are reffering to cause even in them they tell you this isn't all you have to do...**** some of them even say I can only point to what might work not that this guide works for every phone no matter what...
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I see points for either side of the coin but a discussion like this will not be good for the Photon forum. To have developers/contributors against themselves is exactly what has happened in other threads and it never ends up a positive for anyone. I feel there is a place for all kinds of work as long as no work is being stolen and credit is being given. It allows for more options and benefits us all. We could all debate this further but I think we know where this would be heading.
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Just a few questions I have for you guys over the last couple months I've seen alot of Miui threads openend and ICS opened?
Are you really considered a developer if you just switch a few files from a rom that a actual developer build from source and made it boot on our phone?
Reason I ask because I've talked to a few developers and they tell me that it sucks how porting a miui, ICS rom has become so easy when it took them hours to build from source?
Just want get your guys insight
Not taking shots at no one so don't start crying about it and tell me it took you hours when there are threads everywhere on how to port these.
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Are you really considered a developer is you forget sh and root in a rom?
remember, we arent taking shots.. just wanna know how it took hours and yet forget stuff like that. dont be willing to start a fire if you cant handle the heat.
bottom line is this as far as im concerned, i could give two craps less about miui, or any of the other cm clones. however i think (most of them) they bring something to the table. and give people choices, if the users really thought it was crap they wouldnt use it..
after working with so many prepaid devices and telling the users that if they want stuff done for roms/kernels then they need to find a dev to get the phone, or one of them needs to step up. so to see more and more people on the photon jump up to help is really nice and reminds me of why i loved this community so much (yes even you willysp ;P ).
if someone isnt making the roms then youd have threads of people complaining cuz they wanted them, so more people are happy in the end because they are made as well as offering choices.
i could go into more but as it is this thread is gunna turn enough into a blood bath so ill try to at least keep my part in it as civil as possible
So I can learn?.... Ok. I really do wanna learn but I think they def need to give credit to the originals. But if they don't like something of one ROM and decide they wanna change it and then let others take it for a spin, whose to stop em?
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RockoDev said:
Just a few questions I have for you guys over the last couple months I've seen alot of Miui threads openend and ICS opened?
Are you really considered a developer if you just switch a few files from a rom that a actual developer build from source and made it boot on our phone?
Reason I ask because I've talked to a few developers and they tell me that it sucks how porting a miui, ICS rom has become so easy when it took them hours to build from source?
Just want get your guys insight
Not taking shots at no one so don't start crying about it and tell me it took you hours when there are threads everywhere on how to port these.
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Let me set the record straight:
FIRST AND FOREMOST: I DO NOT CLAIM TO BE A DEVELOPER.
SECOND: MIUI is NOT just cut and paste. If I had SOURCE for it, I would BUILD it SOURCE. As MIUI has NOT released it, I CANNOT do that. I DO PORT it, and I label it as such. But, to act like all I do is cut and paste, you're way off base.
1) I have to edit the framework files just to get it to fully boot with service/data, and the options that the users of my build have grown accustomed to. I have to test libs each time that Joker releases a new CM9, as not all are compatible.
2) I have to test libs with each MIUI release, as they often build with ARM7b, which is NOT compatible with our beloved Tegra 2 processor.
3) I then make 2 versions (Aroma based and CWM flash).
4) I credit everyone whose work I used to do what I do. That being said, if I port something, you're darn right I should get credit for the work I do.
5) The reson SO MANY (2) MIUI threads have popped up is that Spleef initially started the ports. At a point in late March, I took over doing the ports and he took to other roms. I have been asked recently by MIUI.us to start a separate thread so that I can keep the OP up to date and standardize it to the format that they wanted.
Now, on to my other CONTRIBUTIONS:
1) Fixes thread-yes, may be slightly out of date, but it's helped a LOT of people
2) How-tos thread-sure...I need to add more to it and plan to when I get the time.
3) Anyone here like Kitchen Sink? I ask as Joker and I have spent HOURS working together on that rom getting it to where it is. Not to mention if you use version 2.11, then you're using something I assembled, as it was done while Joker was on away on Vacation.
4) I am usually found on ALL the Photon/Atrix threads helping people with their issues ranging from flashing issues to data issues, etc.
5) Check out how many ROMs I've helped on.
Another thing, I don't have the title Developer...and didn't apply for it. I am a Contributor. I CAREFULLY examined the criteria for each and decided that I would apply for being a Contributor as I DON'T at this time do SOURCE work.
Funny how someone who isn't doing source either would put "dev" in their name when they don't seem to have a single source-built item to their credit, then have a problem with what I do.
Funny that I count there are 3 Rocko-rom variants 2.3.5 posted. See me starting a thread to ask why you have so many Blur based roms?
I would personally LOVE to have the opportunity to talk to ANY of the DEVS you cite as having an issue with the fact that I port MIUI.
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So I can learn?.... Ok. I really do wanna learn but I think they def need to give credit to the originals. But if they don't like something of one ROM and decide they wanna change it and then let others take it for a spin, whose to stop em?
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your absolutely right anyone can do this it just takes some patience and a little knowledge....we give credit, thanks, and links to every rom we port over..... I'm guilty of forgetting things in roms. I know I am, sometimes things get forgotten or ill use the wrong damn file...lol.....I'm not taking shots or trying to start no crap but I woke up this morning to this thread and couldn't believe what I was reading.... I mean hell rocko rom was jokers originally and look at it now, we all start some where, true I don't do source right now.......but thats not to say I never will I've had joker trying to teach me for a while now but we live our lives so time is short
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Are you really considered a developer is you forget sh and root in a rom?
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Not sure who did that...we had an issue with SU in MIUI on one build due to incompatibility with MIUI and the 0.6.whatever SU xbin
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Funny how someone who isn't doing source either would put "dev" in their name when they don't seem to have a single source-built item to their credit, then have a problem with what I do.
Funny that I count there are 3 Rocko-rom variants 2.3.5 posted. See me starting a thread to ask why you have so many Blur based roms?
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I'm not trying to pick any sides in this because I like both of your work, but damn he got you.
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......reminds me of why i loved this community so much (yes even you willysp ;P )........
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Why in the world are you taking a shot at me in this thread?
I think, this thread is something, that shouldn't be here. It's all about choices. I don't like the ROMs of all devs here, so I made my own. But I am still glad they are here. And I appreciate their work.
Think I saw in the new evo thread that Rocko is heading there. Maybe triing to stir the pot before he leaves? Personaly I would like to see this thread closed.
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bricky23 said:
Think I saw in the new evo thread that Rocko is heading there. Maybe triing to stir the pot before he leaves? Personaly I would like to see this thread closed.
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AMEN!
A developer is anyone who developed something for Android. Themes, roms, hacks, root methods, modifications, even scripts. Just because someone doesn't build from source doesn't mean they don't bring something to the community.
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willysp said:
Why in the world are you taking a shot at me in this thread?
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lol was just poking fun at ya man hence the
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A developer is anyone who developed something for Android. Themes, roms, hacks, root methods, modifications, even scripts. Just because someone doesn't build from source doesn't mean they don't bring something to the community.
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Can I get an AMEN
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shabbypenguin said:
Are you really considered a developer is you forget sh and root in a rom?
remember, we arent taking shots.. just wanna know how it took hours and yet forget stuff like that. dont be willing to start a fire if you cant handle the heat.
bottom line is this as far as im concerned, i could give two craps less about miui, or any of the other cm clones. however i think (most of them) they bring something to the table. and give people choices, if the users really thought it was crap they wouldnt use it..
after working with so many prepaid devices and telling the users that if they want stuff done for roms/kernels then they need to find a dev to get the phone, or one of them needs to step up. so to see more and more people on the photon jump up to help is really nice and reminds me of why i loved this community so much (yes even you willysp ;P ).
if someone isnt making the roms then youd have threads of people complaining cuz they wanted them, so more people are happy in the end because they are made as well as offering choices.
i could go into more but as it is this thread is gunna turn enough into a blood bath so ill try to at least keep my part in it as civil as possible
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No!!!!! I am not have never claimed to be.....
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To those that may be offended by my position let me clarify. I was on the Evo for the first price drop. A ton of ROMs suddenly appeared that were no more than a font or color change by folks claiming to be devs. To me, simple edits like that are not development or ROMs. I've seen the same with themes, swap a font and call yourself a dev. There are script releases by "devs" that all that was done was change the device name or partition location. To me none of that stuff counts as honest development.
Another example is ROMs from the JoyOS port guides. Copypasta and a couple build.prop edits and look you have JoyOS. That in itself is not development to me. Now if you have to go through and do framework/smali edits to get it to work, that's a whole different story. That requires know how, skill and time.
spleef, Th3Bill and others, I'm sorry if you took my previous post personally. I consider you guys a dev and your work is well beyond anything I have released. Digging around in the code to get things to work is not easy. There are many with contributor titles really should read developer. (again, in thinking about it I really am not one of them). I was also speaking about android as a whole and not specifically the photon forum.
jokersax11 said:
A developer is anyone who developed something for Android. Themes, roms, hacks, root methods, modifications, even scripts. Just because someone doesn't build from source doesn't mean they don't bring something to the community.
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I can't speak for others but I agree with you on this only to a point. It goes back to the first paragraph in this post. To me, a font change or other very minor changes isn't development. I'm speaking in general however. When it comes to the Photon specifically, there's a lot of actual deving being done and folks that are very deserving of dev status (again, I am not placing myself in that category).
To All,
A lot of crap has happened to me personally over the past couple months. My attitude is lousy at best and I think it time I walk away for awhile. If I have offended I am sorry. Feel free to grab any of my work and run with it. I also have the following unfinished projects up for grabs;
2.3.5 sudo-Blur ROM with root ODEXed and De-ODEXed built straight from the 2.3.5 leak. (USB is intermittent but not sure if its the phone or the ROM)
webtop+ 2.3.5 leak (missing apps)
Copypasta JoyOS port (never connects to service)