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[ROM-MOD]Radio Voltage Regulator (increase signal/save battery)
Hi all!
I am looking for a mod or software that will allow me to regulate the voltage amount to my Raphael's radio.
The idea:
- By increasing the voltage I increase reception/signal but use battery more (good for emergencies and areas with bad signal).
- By reducing the voltage in an area with great reception/signal I save battery power.
I am technically on the verge of developing it myself. I just wanted to check if there already is one before I do.
Also, any information that can help me get closer would be greatly appreciated.
great Idea, but it should be automaticly reactink by checking the reception, or when a intrnrt connection is build. otherwise it's not going to be much helpfull.
s.
Afaik, that should already be done by the phone itself...
@s.zamani
Yes an automatic mode is definably a must, I agree.
@Rumpel78
If it did, then why do I have areas with no signal or lost calls? and even if it did, I want to test how far past the default variable I can go. But I don't believe it does.
Can anyone confirm this?
Or point me in the right direction to read documentation on this?
With my old nokia phone battery drain was much higher with bad reception than within areas with good reception.
And at work we use Siemens and Telit GSM-Terminals where you can measure the supply-current is much higher if the reception is low.
I must check if this also applies to windows phones - but i cant think of a reason why not.
I will look into this.
@Rumpel78
Thanks for looking into that, that data will help.
Think of it like this though. Even if phones adjust power distribution to radio automatically... Manufacturers know (for example) that their radio can't take more than 1.2v (lets say). So to be safe they set a cap variance at 1.0v. Now obviously when its running at cap it will drain the battery quicker. However, there are times when even that is not enough and I can be stuck with whats known as 'no signal' or even get a 'dropped call'.
In other words, we would be "overclocking" the radio.
How would it be beneficial? while there are plenty reasons for one to have such control over their radio I will go with the obvious ones. Emergencies. What if I am stuck in an elevator with no emergency response? or am in an underground surgery facility and I want to text my family that a loved one came out of the surgery well?
Normally I would be in the hands of g-d or would have to wait until I surfaced and possibly even exited the hospital (respectively to the situation aforementioned)
It just happens to be in my life that flawless communications plays a big role. This is the main reason I am pursuing this. Even if minute, this type of control can come in handy if not life saving for some people.
This is assuming phones (and in-particular the raphael models) already are adjusting power distribution to radio based on a min and max (cap) variance.
If they aren't, this is a major improvement.
If they are this is a situational improvement, used deliberately in particular situations where, normally, communications would not be available.
I'm not trying to overcome cellphone signal jammers, but wouldn't it be nice if you could try?
Also I can think of another situation. Many countries enforce their own electronics safety policy.
So going along with my last post. What if the radio could take as much as 1.5v but was set at a cap of 1.0v because of electronic security policies of the country we live in?
In a situation of emergency, i don't care much for those policies and will use speaker-phone/headset for my safety.
This is so true that when we really need a good reception or even good enough signal to establish connection. Just once of your life time, it can be beneficial.
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4. What is a Radio?
The Radio is the Firmware that works between the Operating System and the Cellular Hardware. It handles the Sound, Camera, GPS, Phone Calls, etc. The Radio must be compatible with the ROM's Operating System or you may experience problems with your sound and camera.
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By that definition, I would like to specifically clarify, that I mean the part of the Radio that handles reception/signal and GPS. I see no need in adjusting voltage to sound or camera so unless someone specifically asks for it, that type of control will not be embedded.
P.S. Anyone who has knowledge in this field and can help me with the development please send me a PM as, at this point, I could use all the help I can get.
Anyone know whats the best forum board for help with new development?
benspens said:
Anyone know whats the best forum board for help with new development?
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How about...
Windows Mobile Software Development
hm..
as others have already said... this is already done by the phone's internal hardware, and the radio ROM. maybe even some on the windows mobile side.
Also, based on the sort of questions you are asking, adjust radio amp voltage sounds like a bad place to start learning how to do windows app development...
This is really not needed. The best solutgion for the outer 3G ranges where the device keeps pinging. looking, for 3G service & hence burning through the battery faster is to turn off 3G in the Comm Manager. That way it is forced to use Edge or GPRS & won't bother at all looking for 3G. There is no way to amplify the device reception (short of an antennae in the car/home or integrated into a cowboy hat), So forget about that.
Just go into the Comm Manager or the Settings & simply select to not use 3G in or to use only GPRS/Edge in Network Settings. Either way will save battery & you don't really need 3G unless you are surfing heavy sites or downloading/uploading files.
I apologize now for the long explanation but feel the info is needed.
I had a replacement phone in March so I could root and after that all was good, I finally in May got frustrated with my lead bunker of a house and no cell signal so I got a Verizon Network Range Extender (Samsung). After I got it and a week of getting it working right my cell signal hasn't been the same, I know the bar graph isn't an accurate representation of the signal so I was watching the Db levels and the fact when I was in the middle of town in the open I had one or no bars and a -104 signal.
After Kaos and Conap got Froyo up and usable I tried using the ROM's but after a week the phone would be so unresponsive it would take literally 5 minutes to find a number and dial it. I would miss calls all the time and constantly would have to reboot. I was at first trying 768 on the OC but eventually stepped it down to 710. I have tried KaosFroyo V19-33 with no luck, each update I do has less and less time between flashing and when it becomes unresponsive. I have Tried CLEB 1.6-2.4 same thing. The only ROM that I can use with the best results is Plain_JaneT2 OC'd at 710.
I currently still have cell reception issues and sluggishness on most ROM's, I am on the current 4.27 radio and have formatted several times the SD card to start with a blank slate. I am not using swap or ext3 for AP2SD. I have unrooted and rerooted 2 times. This phone was pre legit 2.1 OTA.
Not sure what I did or what to do next to get it back in order
morphius2036 said:
I apologize now for the long explanation but feel the info is needed.
I had a replacement phone in March so I could root and after that all was good, I finally in May got frustrated with my lead bunker of a house and no cell signal so I got a Verizon Network Range Extender (Samsung). After I got it and a week of getting it working right my cell signal hasn't been the same, I know the bar graph isn't an accurate representation of the signal so I was watching the Db levels and the fact when I was in the middle of town in the open I had one or no bars and a -104 signal.
After Kaos and Conap got Froyo up and usable I tried using the ROM's but after a week the phone would be so unresponsive it would take literally 5 minutes to find a number and dial it. I would miss calls all the time and constantly would have to reboot. I was at first trying 768 on the OC but eventually stepped it down to 710. I have tried KaosFroyo V19-33 with no luck, each update I do has less and less time between flashing and when it becomes unresponsive. I have Tried CLEB 1.6-2.4 same thing. The only ROM that I can use with the best results is Plain_JaneT2 OC'd at 710.
I currently still have cell reception issues and sluggishness on most ROM's, I am on the current 4.27 radio and have formatted several times the SD card to start with a blank slate. I am not using swap or ext3 for AP2SD. I have unrooted and rerooted 2 times. This phone was pre legit 2.1 OTA.
Not sure what I did or what to do next to get it back in order
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i cant attest for the network extender but i have noticed if the rom has an overclocked kernal and i use setcpu it turns into a slugg real quick especially with autokiller installed. u might just try a rom and not overclock it and and uninstall autokiller that is if you have that..
Are you using the setcpu widget? That messes things up quite a lot. The degradation in performance is enough that you'll have to pull the battery waking up, even when you're overclocking to 768mhz.
No I never use that I just go on the hopes that the OC is working but I wasn't aware that the OC Kernel and the Autokiller was an issue. May give that a try.
Usually the sluggishness is there but not terribly bad but I am lazy after I flash a new rom and don't set up my screens or apps for a couple of days so that may be the reason there is a window of time that the performace isn't teribble and tollerable but as soon as I do a SetCPU it goes out the window.
Thanks for the advice, just wish you had something for my cell signal.
I don't know about the extender. But yeah don't use the widget. What settings do you use for SetCPU? You may want to call Verizon for the extender.
Ok so day 2 of CELB 2.6 and all is good I didn't go to SetCPU and I noticed when I put the Facebook widget on the screen things got somewhat slow so I took it off. Still have some slow response in the app drawer but that may be from my screen replacement. It is a Verizon screen not a third party but don't know.
As for signal I am just going to suck it up and wait till August and get a newer phone.
Thanks for all the ideas
I would remove setcpu altogether and maybe try a different rom just to be safe.
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Ok, so I do not have internet at my house so my phone is my primary internet source via Wired Tether 1.4. Normally I can stay connected to data(3G) for about 30 to 45 minutes and then it will just shut off. Then when it shuts off I just pull down the notification bar and put it in airplane mode for a second or two then data restarts fine. I use my data heavyish if you want to say. (Youtube, XDA, Facebook, email and everything else you normally do) My signal is a solid 2 bars. I have tried *228 opt 1&2 and also swapping radios. Did not seem to help. Could be signal but just not to sure considering I can DL around 1mb/s
If it makes a difference I'm using Shed's 2.0 GSB w/2.42.01.04.27 radio and conaps unreleased kernel which generaly I keep oc'd at 729
It isn't a giant issue, its just kinda annoying.
Also I've attached the speedtest.net results for proof of speed.
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Ok, so I do not have internet at my house so my phone is my primary internet source via Wired Tether 1.4. Normally I can stay connected to data(3G) for about 30 to 45 minutes and then it will just shut off. Then when it shuts off I just pull down the notification bar and put it in airplane mode for a second or two then data restarts fine. I use my data heavyish if you want to say. (Youtube, XDA, Facebook, email and everything else you normally do) My signal is a solid 2 bars. I have tried *228 opt 1&2 and also swapping radios. Did not seem to help. Could be signal but just not to sure considering I can DL around 1mb/s
If it makes a difference I'm using Shed's 2.0 GSB w/2.42.01.04.27 radio and conaps unreleased kernel which generaly I keep oc'd at 729
It isn't a giant issue, its just kinda annoying.
Also I've attached the speedtest.net results for proof of speed.
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I have a lot of experience with tethering as it was my only home internet for about six months until several weeks ago, finally (thank the lords of cobol - ugh, did I say that).
I have tried just about every snake oil imaginable to get tethering to work better, including switching back and forth from wifi to wired tethering. Sometimes it seemed for a while that one (usually WIFI) would work better than the other, but that would only last so long, too.
The longest I hardly ever had a problem with it continuously connected was actually about a week straight if I remember correctly. That was the best I ever had. The worse was disconnects every few minutes, or just as soon as I continued interrupted downloads after re-tethering.
My favorite and most common snake oil was using an app called APN OnOff to reset the APN to default. For practical purposes, it probably effectively did the same thing as you using Airplane mode, which I thought I had tried but I didn't think it worked as well for me, or even at all. Even after using APN OnOff, most of the time I had to reboot as well.
I had tried one without the other and it seemed like it required both for my tethering to work "reliably" again. I use that term loosely, of course.
I was using over 30GB per month data at my highest tethering use, and it was probably only that "low" because of the frustration and difficulty in depending on it.
I download A LOT so it really sucked at times, but it was better than dial up...sometimes.
I will say that one definite improvement was using Cyanogen Mod (v6.x and above) based ROMs which have support for built in WIFI tethering widget and using apps off the internet to use CM's built in wired tethering as well. These are implemented differently than the "old" Wired and Wireless tethering for root apps.
I highly recommend you explore them. One major difference, for me (and I tethered to two computers, my own and my girlfriends) was just how fast even the wired tethering would connect to the computer once I started it, versus wired tethering for root. Wireless tethering also turned on and off and actually connected much faster.
If you've never wireless tethered before, in my experience if you're going to depend on it at home constantly like I did, I kept it plugged in constantly anyway because it used a LOT of battery, and I also took the battery cover out (besides taking the Eris out of my body glove case I use) and kept a fan blowing on it to keep it's temperature down.
If you do decide to try this way, like I said, CM6.x+ includes "notification power widgets", which are widgets built into the pull down notification bar. They include a WIFI tethering widget but for some reason not a wired one. There is an app on the market called "Tethering Widget", though, which has both single widgets and widgets for both functions, in case you decide to try it's tethering ability.
Edit: I'm half asleep so forgive me for not paying attention that you're already on a CM7 ROM just like me, much less that I know you've been active in the GSB thread recently.
Lol sleep is a must for most if us. Idk, like I said its not that big a deal. Its just rather annoying. Expecially when trying to download junk. I'm familiar with wireless tether for root and my thoughts are that is a useful app when "out and about". But for home use I don't prefer it at all do to the heat and it seems that over a session of use it looses its speed. Almost as if its idling down. That is majorly why I prefer wired tether. Cool battery and it maintains speed. Idk. I guess it could also be some code somewhere that prevents extended periods of use OR it could be just the limitations of the phones hardware. Might have to run logcat and see if I can get anything to come up on the disconnect. Can wt and lg be ran at the same time? Guess we'll see.
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Lol sleep is a must for most if us. Idk, like I said its not that big a deal. Its just rather annoying. Expecially when trying to download junk. I'm familiar with wireless tether for root and my thoughts are that is a useful app when "out and about". But for home use I don't prefer it at all do to the heat and it seems that over a session of use it looses its speed. Almost as if its idling down. That is majorly why I prefer wired tether. Cool battery and it maintains speed. Idk. I guess it could also be some code somewhere that prevents extended periods of use OR it could be just the limitations of the phones hardware. Might have to run logcat and see if I can get anything to come up on the disconnect. Can wt and lg be ran at the same time? Guess we'll see.
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What's lg? If you're talking about two different methods of tethering, no. You can have as many ways of tethering installed at the same time, but you'll only be able to actually use one of the ways at a time. Let me know if you try Gingerbread/CM7's native tethering instead of the "for root" apps and if it treats you any better, as it did me in general.
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What's lg?
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Sorry I meant LC. Logcat. I'm gonna run Logcat and wired tether and see if I can get something when 3G drops.
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Sorry I meant LC. Logcat. I'm gonna run Logcat and wired tether and see if I can get something when 3G drops.
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I hope you have luck finding out something useful!
hey guys ive been really really trying really super hard to figure out why my android os is always at 80-90 percent cuz after 10 hours my battery is almost dead (in the red) so i got os monitor, cpu spy, and betterbatterystats to try to hunt the prob down and i have spent countless days since i got the phone to figure out what it is thats draining my battery so im on stock with codeworks kernal for cwm and rooted with superoneclick i froze a lot of apps and what not but still had the prob so i left my house one day to hit the beach and i said well i dont need wifi or gps so i turned it off for the 1st time and at the end of the day when i get home and pull out my phone from my bag it said it was on for 10 hours and i was only at 80 percent!!!! so i tested it some more and it seems that my android os is not high at all when wifi and gps are off plus i get awsome battery so my guess would be wifi drain i just want other ppl to try it also and see if that fixes there probs too idk just thought i would share my story sorry its so long but plz dont bash me if ive said noob stuff thx
Ya because when I'm right next to my router which is awesome I don't even get full signal so I think its the wifi.signal.
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You should always turn off WiFi and Bluetooth when not connected to something. WiFi has been a thorn in my side too. I don't use it very often, and sometimes when I use it at home I forget to turn it off.
One of the things I miss most from my WinMo phone was the constant LED and notification indication WiFi is on. With Android and iOS if you are not connected you don't have any icon showing its on. There should be a WiFi with an X, like when you have no signal, to indicate: Hey you! Yeah, you ... you left WiFi on, you dope! Or, an option built into the OS that will let you turn it off automatically when disconnected for so long. I know there are apps to do this (juice defender is a popular one), but this such a core common sense thing that should be built in. At least with Bluetooth you see the logo staring at you when you leave it on.
Sorry to rant, that's been bugging me for 3 years.
GPS on the other hand only activates and uses battery when needed. However all sort of apps can call the need. Again, this warns you when its in use, so its not a surprise later.
I get much batter battery life than with my captivate, but I keep on top of WiFi and BT when not using them.
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and this is why people use apps like JuiceDefender and Tasker or Locale
mbze430 said:
and this is why people use apps like JuiceDefender and Tasker or Locale
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For wifi you can just set the policy to When screen turns off.
So far, not a single person has been able to actually find a wifi bug.
Every time someone thinks they've found it, things have been working as intended.
If you have an app that causes lots of network traffic, it'll inhibit deep sleep, but since most of the time spent handling the network traffic is in excessive suspending/resuming, Android OS gets the blame and not the responsible app.
Useful references:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1290020 - the first 15-20 pages are garbage, but the last 15-20 has some excellent data collection
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1308030 - My list of known identified battery drainers
Let me guess - you are running Skype or another IM application that does not use Google C2DM? (As far as I know, only Google Talk and Tango use C2DM)
I'm surprised that turning off wifi didn't make things worse, unless in your case the app responsible behaves differently when on a cellular network, or you have packet data disabled.
BetterBatteryStats is almost useless for hunting Android OS drain, as it does not show kernel wakelocks. The only way to get the truth is to get the contents of /proc/wakelocks
thank you entropy for that info but yes im stuck at the fact that even on mobile network it dont drain like it does with wifi which im not a pro or anything but im just assuming that it cant be an app cuz if it was i would think it would use the same amount of data whether it was wifi or mobile cuz internet is internet but for me i dont know about other ppl everytime i turn off wifi my battery dramatically increases by alot and my android os is never the highest anymore when its off so i dont know if this will do anything but i will do a factory reset and try my testing again like that and see what happens.... plz correct me if i say anything wrong im just trying to help but i only know so much im not a dev lol
p.s. *edit* oh and to answer your question no i am not using any type of im like skype or what not the only thing i have on the phone is the talk thats on it but ive never even clicked it before so it has never been run yet or set up or w/e not sure of that matters but yea... but thank you entropy for that info it really helped me think a little bit more
quarlow said:
You should always turn off WiFi and Bluetooth when not connected to something. WiFi has been a thorn in my side too. I don't use it very often, and sometimes when I use it at home I forget to turn it off.
One of the things I miss most from my WinMo phone was the constant LED and notification indication WiFi is on. With Android and iOS if you are not connected you don't have any icon showing its on. There should be a WiFi with an X, like when you have no signal, to indicate: Hey you! Yeah, you ... you left WiFi on, you dope! Or, an option built into the OS that will let you turn it off automatically when disconnected for so long. I know there are apps to do this (juice defender is a popular one), but this such a core common sense thing that should be built in. At least with Bluetooth you see the logo staring at you when you leave it on.
Sorry to rant, that's been bugging me for 3 years.
GPS on the other hand only activates and uses battery when needed. However all sort of apps can call the need. Again, this warns you when its in use, so its not a surprise later.
I get much batter battery life than with my captivate, but I keep on top of WiFi and BT when not using them.
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I agree on Bluetooth. I disagree on wifi - Even for background data, wifi is FAR more efficient than cellular data in terms of power usage. There is no longer any reason to turn off wifi, unless you have a misbehaving app that consumes lare amounts of data when on wifi.
Unlike previous devices, the standby drain of the BCM4330 chipset in our phones is EXTREMELY low.
If Samsung's power_profile.xml numbers are correct, the wifi standby drain current of the BCM4330 on the Galaxy S2 is less than 1/10 that of the chipset used in the I9000/Captivate.
However, radio data is far less power efficient than it was on the I9000/Captivate - A change in the architecture of our phone's radio interface means that any radio data transfers, even for a single packet, incur a minimum 6 second wakelock penalty. (Compare to an average of 1 second for small wifi packets.) This doesn't even count the power penalties involved in transmitting to the tower vs. transmitting to a wifi access point.
In fact, when taking these two things together (high wakelock penalties for radio data, and wifi standby drain 1/10 that of previous devices), you should actually not only avoid turning off wifi, you should set the sleep policy to "never" so that it prefers wifi to the cell radio.
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thank you entropy for that info but yes im stuck at the fact that even on mobile network it dont drain like it does with wifi which im not a pro or anything but im just assuming that it cant be an app cuz if it was i would think it would use the same amount of data whether it was wifi or mobile cuz internet is internet but for me i dont know about other ppl everytime i turn off wifi my battery dramatically increases by alot and my android os is never the highest anymore when its off so i dont know if this will do anything but i will do a factory reset and try my testing again like that and see what happens.... plz correct me if i say anything wrong im just trying to help but i only know so much im not a dev lol
p.s. *edit* oh and to answer your question no i am not using any type of im like skype or what not the only thing i have on the phone is the talk thats on it but ive never even clicked it before so it has never been run yet or set up or w/e not sure of that matters but yea... but thank you entropy for that info it really helped me think a little bit more
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You are incorrect. Some apps specifically check whether they are on wifi or on cellular data and change their behavior accordingly. "Internet is Internet" is not true - cell data is fundamentally slower and more expensive in nearly all situations, and as a result, many apps behave differently on wifi.
For example, normally Google Talk will not allow video chat on cellular data, only on wifi, unless it has been hacked to change that behavior.
Some apps specifically have "use this feature only when on wifi" checkboxes, such as Amazon MP3.
I am 90% certain you have such an app somewhere driving data transfers.
Turn on wifi, reproduce the drain, and pull /proc/wakelocks as documented in the threads I linked above.
There has, to this day, not been a single documented case of the wifi chipset just randomly "wigging out" and keeping the device out of deep sleep - in EVERY single case, root cause was eventually traced back to network traffic, which could then be traced to an app. (For example, Skype in AndreLux's case.)
You might also want to install something like My Data Manager to see what is generating your network traffic.
When I first got my GS2, I was getting rapid battery drain and high heat. Turns out, I had put a SD card in that used to be in my old phone, and Google+ was uploading all the old pictures and videos that were on the card. My Data Manager showed me that this had used almost 800M of mobile data.
My data manager will show you what your usage is on mobile and on wifi, and which specific apps are using how much.
Entropy512 said:
Let me guess - you are running Skype or another IM application that does not use Google C2DM? (As far as I know, only Google Talk and Tango use C2DM)
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Trillian does as well.
jetarpon said:
You might also want to install something like My Data Manager to see what is generating your network traffic.
When I first got my GS2, I was getting rapid battery drain and high heat. Turns out, I had put a SD card in that used to be in my old phone, and Google+ was uploading all the old pictures and videos that were on the card. My Data Manager showed me that this had used almost 800M of mobile data.
My data manager will show you what your usage is on mobile and on wifi, and which specific apps are using how much.
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you guys are such a great help thank you but where can i find your data manager?
Entropy512 said:
I agree on Bluetooth. I disagree on wifi - Even for background data, wifi is FAR more efficient than cellular data in terms of power usage. There is no longer any reason to turn off wifi, unless you have a misbehaving app that consumes lare amounts of data when on wifi.
Unlike previous devices, the standby drain of the BCM4330 chipset in our phones is EXTREMELY low.
If Samsung's power_profile.xml numbers are correct, the wifi standby drain current of the BCM4330 on the Galaxy S2 is less than 1/10 that of the chipset used in the I9000/Captivate.
However, radio data is far less power efficient than it was on the I9000/Captivate - A change in the architecture of our phone's radio interface means that any radio data transfers, even for a single packet, incur a minimum 6 second wakelock penalty. (Compare to an average of 1 second for small wifi packets.) This doesn't even count the power penalties involved in transmitting to the tower vs. transmitting to a wifi access point.
In fact, when taking these two things together (high wakelock penalties for radio data, and wifi standby drain 1/10 that of previous devices), you should actually not only avoid turning off wifi, you should set the sleep policy to "never" so that it prefers wifi to the cell radio.
You are incorrect. Some apps specifically check whether they are on wifi or on cellular data and change their behavior accordingly. "Internet is Internet" is not true - cell data is fundamentally slower and more expensive in nearly all situations, and as a result, many apps behave differently on wifi.
For example, normally Google Talk will not allow video chat on cellular data, only on wifi, unless it has been hacked to change that behavior.
Some apps specifically have "use this feature only when on wifi" checkboxes, such as Amazon MP3.
I am 90% certain you have such an app somewhere driving data transfers.
Turn on wifi, reproduce the drain, and pull /proc/wakelocks as documented in the threads I linked above.
There has, to this day, not been a single documented case of the wifi chipset just randomly "wigging out" and keeping the device out of deep sleep - in EVERY single case, root cause was eventually traced back to network traffic, which could then be traced to an app. (For example, Skype in AndreLux's case.)
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thank you im learning every day because of ppl like you who like to share information like that i would love to reproduce the drain and pull the wakelocks but honestly i have no idea how to and i havent really searched for it either but i think i might just have to learn how to use adb and what not hopefully i can find out what app is draining my battery and causing android os to be super super high thx
I gave the ADB commands necessary for pulling the wakelocks file in one of the threads I linked on the first page.
For getting ADB set up, if you're on Windows you may want to look for Droid Explorer (Google it) - it's a pretty nifty frontend to ADB and I believe it helps you install ADB.
praramis said:
you guys are such a great help thank you but where can i find your data manager?
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The name of it is "My Data Manager." It's in the market.
It's not mine, I just use it.
Okay..u guys should try out a app called "WIFI STATUS". It gives u a notification when your wifi is on but not connected. Really a awesome app.
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Entropy512 said:
I gave the ADB commands necessary for pulling the wakelocks file in one of the threads I linked on the first page.
For getting ADB set up, if you're on Windows you may want to look for Droid Explorer (Google it) - it's a pretty nifty frontend to ADB and I believe it helps you install ADB.
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thank you i will def look into that im actually installing right now.....
jetarpon said:
The name of it is "My Data Manager." It's in the market.
It's not mine, I just use it.
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thx i will try this out
punjabiest said:
Okay..u guys should try out a app called "WIFI STATUS". It gives u a notification when your wifi is on but not connected. Really a awesome app.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I777 using xda premium
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On but not connected shouldn't be a problem for our devices - see my previous posts about the fact that our standby drain is supposedly VERY low.
On but transferring lots of background data when connected will go killtacular on your battery.
PLEASE MOVE THIS THREAD TO GENERAL MY APOLOGIES
I know battery life issues have been talked to death but...Here's a new perspective:
so I have been doing some experimenting with my amaze in terms of battery life and asking my friend who works at T-mobile regarding his SGS2...He says his battery life seems to be pretty crappy too, marginally better than the amaze....so, I hard reset my phone and I did not sign into google, left my phone on airplain mode, basically I did not set up anything...I turned off wifi, and data everything was truned off...I went for 10 hours with only 2 percent battery drainage...then I signed into google....and in a matter of 10 minutes I went from 98 percent to 92... Watever is eating the battery up is not the phones hardware fault or the screens fault... I turned off background data sync and it seemed to make little difference...It seems the google programs or any program that needs internet connect regardless of syncing or not will have significant effect on your battery life...between 4g and wifi I saw little difference in battery life drainage...my phone signal is completely green so I cannot blame the signal... I cannot possibly kill gmail, market, maps etc...these are programs I use constantly...lets hope with the ICS update some of these sofware issues will resolve...
google needs to start managing applications better and not leave a bunch of applications running in the forground and background...
I've heard different theories regarding task killers...some say it actually worsens battery life since programs keep wanting to restart and some say it saves battery life...can anyone elaborate on this? I have juice defender ultimate, it seems to make minute difference in battery life as well.
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Display is the biggest factor obviously and then its data transfer or anything that has to do with transmitting signal.
like every other phone the 100% lasts for a long time then after it drops it drops quickly. So your analyses is flawed since it already dropped from 100% and then you switched data on. There are apps that are constantly sending data and the sense UI kills the battery a lot too. Thats why AOSP roms are better for battery life.
Juicedefender helps
setcpu helps
managing your apps helps
changing your background to black helps
I've tried juice defender, um... I would suggest you read about instructions on flashing a custom ROM I'm on quiksense and when 2.0 comes out I heard xboarder's got some really nice improvements with the 1.4.1 version I almost doubled my battery life. My phone used to go down to 50~60 idle over night, now it's about 90~ idle over night.
Teo032 said:
Display is the biggest factor obviously and then its data transfer or anything that has to do with transmitting signal.
like every other phone the 100% lasts for a long time then after it drops it drops quickly. So your analyses is flawed since it already dropped from 100% and then you switched data on. There are apps that are constantly sending data and the sense UI kills the battery a lot too. Thats why AOSP roms are better for battery life.
Juicedefender helps
setcpu helps
managing your apps helps
changing your background to black helps
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Juicedefender did help but then I was missing all my google talk messages, google voice messages, google voice voicemails and a bunch of stuff...ever going through the settings and setting it up to recheck background data every 5 minutes did not work with J/D...so I stopped using it...I need my data to come through...whats the point of having a phone if you can't get notification and use the features meant to.... I used to be a strickly no bloatware simplistic out of the box google experience guy...thus my nexus one...I LOVED IT...then dropped it and not worth fixing. nexus S was dissapointing, so is the galaxy nexus...I hate all the bloatware, and all the customizations t-mobile makes to the phone...like t-mobile inscription on the phone, t-mobile startup screen...etc...yes I know I could root and change all that stuff...honestly I just don't feel like going through all that crap!!! and also void my warranty...I don't undestand howcome the iphone is never branded!!!???/ wtf....I buy a phone and it's mine why does it have to come with a logo of the company....IT'S MY PHONE. THEY SHOULD INSCRIBE MY NAME ON IT. as for the bloatware I figured out how to temproot and freeze programs... I don't think you can change the startup screen to the original HTC one with temp root...damn T-mobile...you used to be so much better...
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Juicedefender did help but then I was missing all my google talk messages, google voice messages, google voice voicemails and a bunch of stuff...ever going through the settings and setting it up to recheck background data every 5 minutes did not work with J/D...so I stopped using it...I need my data to come through...whats the point of having a phone if you can't get notification and use the features meant to.... I used to be a strickly no bloatware simplistic out of the box google experience guy...thus my nexus one...I LOVED IT...then dropped it and not worth fixing. nexus S was dissapointing, so is the galaxy nexus...I hate all the bloatware, and all the customizations t-mobile makes to the phone...like t-mobile inscription on the phone, t-mobile startup screen...etc...yes I know I could root and change all that stuff...honestly I just don't feel like going through all that crap!!! and also void my warranty...I don't undestand howcome the iphone is never branded!!!???/ wtf....I buy a phone and it's mine why does it have to come with a logo of the company....IT'S MY PHONE. THEY SHOULD INSCRIBE MY NAME ON IT. as for the bloatware I figured out how to temproot and freeze programs... I don't think you can change the startup screen to the original HTC one with temp root...damn T-mobile...you used to be so much better...
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use JD ultimate and set the apps to work with screen off.
you can get a telus or wind model without the tmobile branding
i think you can change the bootanimation with temp root because it's just a file? I'm not exactly sure about that one though.
apple sells their iphone to ATT
as htc sells their phone tmobile
tmobile probably request a branding on it with a higher cost.
att probably reject the higher cost because they're already losing money when buying the iphone from apple (i think i remember i read it awhile ago) and make money off data plans.
Teo032 said:
use JD ultimate and set the apps to work with screen off.
you can get a telus or wind model without the tmobile branding
i think you can change the bootanimation with temp root because it's just a file? I'm not exactly sure about that one though.
apple sells their iphone to ATT
as htc sells their phone tmobile
tmobile probably request a branding on it with a higher cost.
att probably reject the higher cost because they're already losing money when buying the iphone from apple (i think i remember i read it awhile ago) and make money off data plans.
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I did use JD ultimate with those apps enable, NO GO, MAYBE I SHOULD RESTART AND GIVE IT ANOTHER TRY...its only when that program requests it that it can initiate the data line, otherwise if someone sends you a text i will not get it since both wifi and data line are cut off permenantly during screen off that is how it saves battery....enabling programs are good for things such as pandora etc...once they end a playlist or something it automatically turns off....this is what I understood from the explaination...i temp rooted and removed some bloatware...hopefully I can change the startup screen as well, perhaps through adb push
P.S. where do I download the original HTC boot animation and sound and what folder is it in to push into? thanks
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I did use JD ultimate with those apps enable, NO GO, MAYBE I SHOULD RESTART AND GIVE IT ANOTHER TRY...its only when that program requests it that it can initiate the data line, otherwise if someone sends you a text i will not get it since both wifi and data line are cut off permenantly during screen off that is how it saves battery....enabling programs are good for things such as pandora etc...once they end a playlist or something it automatically turns off....this is what I understood from the explaination...i temp rooted and removed some bloatware...hopefully I can change the startup screen as well, perhaps through adb push
P.S. where do I download the original HTC boot animation and sound and what folder is it in to push into? thanks
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for JD you want to click on the app thing twice so it goes to enable/screen off not just enabled. But yeah i noticed that sometimes it works sometimes it doesn't
not sure where the bootanimation and sounds is it at, i never played with it. You should check out the themes section, you can download the zip and browse through where it goes.... other than that there might be other threads with the instructions on where it's at.
You may want to try an AOSP based rom, (if you rooted)
I was getting 18 hours of use with 36% left, Medium usage (ie browsing, texting)
Teo032 said:
for JD you want to click on the app thing twice so it goes to enable/screen off not just enabled. But yeah i noticed that sometimes it works sometimes it doesn't
not sure where the bootanimation and sounds is it at, i never played with it. You should check out the themes section, you can download the zip and browse through where it goes.... other than that there might be other threads with the instructions on where it's at.
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ya i clicked twice enable/screen off...still no go for those particular programs i tested and tested it....oh well..my batterly life is not bad at all...besides I have a car kit which charges it in the car. once i started using the thing tho, battery drains fast...its no mystery its got a big screen bigger than my old N1 which used to be amoled and this is lcd...also this uses 4g which consumes significantly greater battery...faster processor etc....its not a mystery!!! they need to come up with a new battery technology soon!!!!