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OK IMEI-CHECK charge £20 to unlock the phone, and I say fair enough. Why am I posting this? Did you know that their method is probably writing a NEW locking code using some other algorithm? If you run their software, it will inflate and write (about 4K of data if i remember correctly) in the part of the Radio ROM, where you only get access from the bootloader (memory address h'0' to h'10000'). Now here's the thing: I bet if I call T-mobile and ask for the unlocking code, it won't work in my phone, as these guys are actually modifying the Radio ROM without even telling you. Have you guys thought about insurance? For those who don't pay £9.99 or whatever extra cover, what if you pricey and precious pda goes bonkers? I think they should tell you *before* doing anything, about any possible problems.
Come on you guys, someone said he has compiled a few logs/imei numbers. Let's crack this thing, it has been done before for xda I and II, why can't we do it for IIs/IIi?
If that's the case, then I wonder what's in those .uif files they ask you to send back to them? Could it be a backup of the sections of the radio ROM that they're replacing?
Also, if they're writing a fixed set of data to the radio ROM, how come everyone seems to have different unlock codes? Could they be replacing the actual algorithm that calculates the unlock code so that it only accepts certain combinations of codes from them?
-no1
Just had another thought - what if they're replacing code in the radio ROM with code from the Himalaya so that the unlock process then works in the same way as the Himalaya?
Has anyone tried using the xda2unlock tool after running the program from IMEI-Check??? I can't test this just now, so it's just a guess.
-no1
Could they be replacing the actual algorithm that calculates the unlock code so that it only accepts certain combinations of codes from them?
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Yes I believe that's what they actually do. I tried to run their utility with a debugger but it does not allow execution as long as a debugger is running, nice one IMEI-CHECK. However, I have done a full USB port logging when the utility runs and I found out that they write a new image between addresses 0 and 10000 of the radio rom, and that they also read from 3FC000 the first 4000 bytes, and from FFFEF000 the first 20 bytes.
Yesterday I discovered something odd...after running their application, and by inserting a different SIM card, the attempts counter for the unlocking code had a negative value of several millions. Now I suspect that by writing in adresses 0-10000, i think they replace the default unlocking utility which allows to enter the code.
Another idea I will try will be to run a debugger in the PDA (if I can find one) and see if I can capture the memory address with which it compares the input code.
Come on guys, especially you who did the unlocking utility for XDA II!! Give us some help here!!!!
Zouganelis,
That's excellent that you've been able to sniff the USB traffic. Keep up the investigations!
I wonder why they'd need to read sections of the ROM? If they're replacing the calculation algorithm section of the ROM with their own code, then they should already know how to calculate the unlock code - i.e. they shouldn't need the user to send them back the .uif file.
This makes me wonder if the code they are replacing is just a copy of the code from another device e.g. the Himalaya.
If they are replacing with code from the Himalaya then the unlock process may revert back to how it works on the Himalaya.
Has anyone been able to test this by running the xda2unlock tool for the Himalaya *after* running the IMEI-Check program?
Does anyone have the source code for xda2unlock by the way? I tried searching for it, but it doesn't seem to be available.
-no1
Another thing, does anyone know if it's possible to back up and restore this secret area of the radio ROM using the backup to SD method? I assume that when you dump your radio ROM to SD card it's not including this part of the ROM???
I want to be able to fully restore any bits that the IMEI-Check tool is changing, just in case.
-no1
Come on guys, anyone else trying to crack this thing? We need someone who knows how to disassamble/reverse engineer this log file. It can't be that hard! Also, I think the key to understanding what their little proggy does, is to manage to run a debugger when the unlock program runs. It has some mechanism of detecting a running debugger and it quits if you have a debugger running at the same time. I bet my MDA III that some experienced programmer can overcome this and fool their application? I am running out of ideas guys and I am really against paying these thieves 20 quid for nothing. They MUST have done this using the previous unlocking methods for XDA I and II. Does any1 know who did those unlockign utilities? These guys must help us!!!
Have you tried to run OllyDbg as a debugger tool to see what is happening? Your earlier findings were very interesting...let me study this and get back to you all...
One remark upfront though: I do not think they are modifying your Radio ROM....this would mean that if you upgrade/replace your current Radio ROM, you would be SIM-lock free...and I do not think that is the case...
OK, some initial observations:
1. Lousy software...hard to use for novices...why have the phone enter BL mode automatically (using enterBL.exe)...I think we can do better!
2. Since the phone must be in BL mode, I do think it extracts some info from the radio ROM, but the SIM-Lock could also reside in the Extended ROM, since this is usually customized by the provider?
3. Interesting to see that the same proggie and procedure is used for all XDA-X models
4. Can anyone post a file (output of the proggie) of what they have mailed these folks, as an example?
5. I was always under the impression that the SIM-Lock resides in the SIM itself, so this is a software workaround? What happens if you upgrade your ROMs...you need to go through this process again? Does anyone have experience with this?
Thanks, and let's get this thing cracked!
HappyGoat,
My understanding is that SIM lock is implemented by the phone itself rather than the SIM card.
In the case of our HTC devices, there seems to be a small area of the radio ROM that does not get written to (even when you upgrade your ROM). This area is where the SIM lock is located, and probably other information such as your IMEI number.
This is probably why your IMEI and SIM lock information never get replaced when you upgrade your ROMs. I seem to remember that an older version of the xda2unlock tool was able to change your IMEI number but it got pulled for legal reasons.
When I unlocked my Himalaya, it stayed unlocked even after later upgrading the ROMs, so the state of the SIM lock is being stored somewhere. It can't be on the SIM because what if you change your SIM after you unlock it? The phone would need to be able to read your old SIM to check if the phone is locked!
Zouganelis,
Have you got any idea if it's possible to back up the areas of the radio ROM you mentioned to SD card? Like the current SD card backup method, but getting ALL of it?
-no1
Happygoat and no1,
i am pretty sure they write to the radio ROM some data they inflate from their "unlocking" executable file. How do I know this? Well, when I put a different SIM into my XDA IIs, after I enter the pin code, the simlock application comes up (simlock.exe under \windows\) which checks for the correct unlocking code. Now usually, you have 3 attempts available to do this, before the phone locks and says "contact customer services" or whatever. After I run their application, the counter had a value of -2billion or something, making it impossible to lock it. Interestingly enough, the memory adresses to which they WRITE, are between 0 and 10000. Is it a coincidence the simlock.exe application is 10.5kB? I don't think so!! i think they write their own simlock application to reset the counter, and then they read from 3FC000 the first 4000 bytes, and from FFFEF000 the first 20 bytes. The simlock code MUST be here!! i will post the log from the USB port sniffing tomorrow, as I don't have these files right now. It's pretty obvious to see how the bootloader works. Anyone with past experience especially with CE based devices will be able to figure out how to read these last two chunks of the radio rom.
Here's a link with some interesting files, RED has posted in the past:
http://www.pgwest.com/phone-files/
Username: xda
Passwrod: blueangel
I do agree with no1 regarding the simlock, I think this is exactly the way it works.
no1, I don't know how to do any backup to the SD card, but if you really know what you are doing in the bootloader, try reading from the memory addresses I mentioned earlier.
Keep it up guys, i think we know what their software does, we now need to find out how to read properly the output log.
Regards,
Zouga
Hi zouganelis and no1,
Thanks for the explanations and comments...all makes sense to me now, excellent.
Zouganelis, thanks for the website...that is the stuff I was looking for, cheers!
I do indeed think we are close...will report back later.
So... if they need the .uif file AND the IMEI number, could it just be a case of using the IMEI code to decrypt the contents of the .uif file? In other words the IMEI code is the decryption key??? But what kind of encryption are they using?
I think they used simple XORing in the past for encrypting the radio, OS, and extended ROMs, but this changed slightly for the Blueangel. I wonder if they used a similar method?
-no1
Interesting thought...and a simple one...which explains they can turn around a request so quickly...
You might be correct...the IMEI could bear the encrypted code for simlock or not. Nowadays, encryption standards are:
DES
MD5
SHA
DES is relatively easy to "crack", SHA being the hardest...they are one-way encryptions, which mean they can not be reversed. The only way to get a match is to try...I have numerous proggies for this and will explore this option...
OK, did some more googling, found the following. There appear to be only 3 companies or people who can do this, which makes it even more interesting...
1. www.imei-check.com (UK)
- Download proggie
- Send them back the output and EMEI number
- Receive unlock code
2. Ebay guy (Canada): http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=43312&item=5763970199&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW
- Sends you software
- You will run this software and it will generate a log file (data cable required).
- You'll need to email us this log file and we will send you the unlock code with instructions as soon as possible
Looks like same procedure as EMEI-CHECK
3. www.UnLockItNow.com (Company in Malta): http://www.unlockitnow.com/remote/unlock/by_cable/Pocket_PC/unlock/XDA_IIs_unlock.php
Not sure what process they use, but looks the same.
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Then I also came across this interesting story: http://www.modaco.com/index.php?showtopic=200968
This guy writes (edited):
I happend across an official O2 email address that I sent an (abbreviated) SIM unlock request, briefly stating why I needed my XDA IIs to be SIM unlocked, and providing my O2 account number and the handset IMEI number. 30 minutes later and I was emailed back an unlock code.
No ifs, no buts, no questions asked and no payment required.
I placed my Orange SIM card in the IIs, waited for it to boot, entered the code and was greeted with "Unlock Code Accepted." Both dialling out and receiving calls on my Orange account no problemo.
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Bearing the above in mind, I'm not going to directly post the email address, but will gladly pass it on via PM.
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The interesting part here is that he only had to give his EMEI number, nothing else...and received an unlock code.
If you take the official route of unlocking your phone through your network provider, all they need is your IMEI number because they can calculate your unlock code from that.
I'm not 100% certain how the process works, but I'm fairly sure the algorithm they use to generate the unlock code is different for each handset manufacturer. I think the network provider either has to send your IMEI to the handset manufacturer for them to calculate the unlock code, or possibly the provider is given a database of unlock codes for all the handsets they purchase. This might explain why it sometimes takes them a few days or weeks to get back to you with the unlock code.
So figuring out how they convert the IMEI number to the unlock code would be another way to attack the problem. Although, I think it would probably be very difficult to figure out what hashing algorithm they're using to generate the code. But if it can be done, then it would certainly make things a hell of a lot easier!
-no1
SH*TE I have been writing a post for about half an hour now explaining the files and as soon as I logged in it was lost. :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:
Anyways, here we go again. I am posting the files I promised yesterday. The are three JPEGs which are handwritten notes from the first time I run their application, and a log file from the second time I run the application. Here's the thing: the first time, the software send a read command for the addresses 0-10000 of the radio rom (rrbmc x 0 10000) and store in the x variable. Then it probably compared the checksum with their data, and it didn't match, so they deleted this part of the rom (rerase 0 10000) and they written their own version of it stored in a vector called data (rw data 0 10000). So far so good.
The second time I run the software, it sent again the rrbmc command but this time it didn't erase or written anything, so I guess it does actually what I said before with the checksum.
Another important remark:
The first time I run the software, the software requested some information from the device (rinfo) and the xda replied:
BlueAngel B120 C6B23C704A59520150993080051FF87B
After it finished writing, it sent the same command once more and this time the xda replied:
BlueAngel B120 C6 BE3A709999541E509810802FD775B0
Now the second time I run the application, the rinfo command returned:
BlueAngel B120 C6BC3C70B329B2B1509980809FE49B11
Can these be some form of HEX encryption keys or something?
Happygoat maybe you could use them in your nice proggies?
Anyhow, I think this is all for now. The commands in the logs should be straight forward to understand, it's just the data part which needs real decoding of some sort.
Hope it helps, regards Zouga
Zouga,
Thanks alot for the info...and your patience!
I downloaded a program called USB Monitor, which supposedly logs all data transferred via the USB port...is that the proggie you used as well?
What I want to do is run the IMEI-CHECK program on my device a few times in a row..since it was never SIMLOCKED, I wonder what the output will be...and if they will be different.
I suggest other people run this software as well with a USB port logger, so we can compare logs, and perhaps figure out precisely what we need to do.
Regarding the encryption, I will have a look. I do not think that the data you gave me (C6BC3C70B329B2B1509980809FE49B11) is encrypted...looks like plain ol' HEX to me...will do some more research.
What I think would be the ultimate solution, is to develop an app that calculates the unlock code based upon IMEI number...easy to use, no workarounds, and something I understand: Encryption...
Yes, I am biased...but I am reading up on ass'y code right now to get my arms around this thing...so bare with me...
Hi HappyGoat,
It's good that finally you guys got interested in this! Yes it is the same piece of software I used to sniff the port, it would be interesting to see the output of your unlocked device. Could you please post it as soon as you have it? I hope we can crack this!!
Come on guys, don't just complain for the £20 charge, give us some help here!! We should all run the software and log the data to compare them, as HappyGoat suggested. Then we should all be HappyXdaUsers
Looking forward to some news,
Zouga
Zouga,
Can't download the zip file (bottom one) for some reason...reports that file can not be found...can you try again please?
Cheers,
HG
Hi to everyone.
Before this HTC device I had others and also had a Motorola Mpx220 (WM2003 SE).
I was used to move the files within "\Windows\Start Menu" (mostly .lnk files to installed programs) into newly created subfolders, to be able to use and/or access the function I needed in a faster way.
I've tried doing the same on this WM5 device, but everytime I try I get an error message reporting it is not possible (File Explorer has greyed out options to cut and/or copy, while TotalCommander just reports it's not possible to "overwrite" ???).
Does anyone have an idea of how this can be done (registry ???) ?
Thank you.
Ciao
Here is the solution...
Hi Mix, it's Mix answering (yes, I'm the same person...)...
First of all I would like to thank you ALL the people which knew the solution and were fighting to answer to my doubt...
You were so many, I wonder why the message has been read times and so many answers arrived: 0 (yes, ZERO).
Anyway, I came across the solution myself, by chance...
The problems seems being the smartphone versions of WM5 being protected against file modifications. This protection extends also to some files execution and to certificate installations (hence some problems may arise when connecting to an Exchange Server for syncronization).
Some tools are needed to remove this protection, and some experience of registry modification is required too (I will not help anyone beside what is in this message and I take no responsability for any mistakes and/or troubles you may produce or face).
First of all you need a special version of RegEdit (the tool from PHM): you should find an HTC digitally signed copy of it called RegEditSTG.exe.
Look around for it: there are many forums around which do hold a copy of it.
Place it in your phone's memory, not on the MicroSD card...
With this tool you should change the following values:
HKLM\Security\Policies\Policies\00001001 = 2 => 1 (RAPI)
HKLM\Security\Policies\Policies\00001005 = 16 => 40 (Cert)
HKLM\Security\Policies\Policies\00001017 = 128 => 144 (?)
The first is the value you will find, the second is the value you should enter. The third line has a question mark because someone says it should be made, someone not... It's up to you. I made it.
Then you should find another tool (with the same above method) called SDA_ApplicationUnlock.exe which has to be run on your desktop PC with the phone already connected with USB (and possibly with ActiveSync not in the middle of a sync...).
Once you run this, you will get a message that the unlock took place (if not, it may be the first operations did not complete well).
Disconnect your phone from the USB cable and power cycle it (switch it off and then on again).
Opla'... the phone is not APPLICATION UNLOCKED and you will be able to move file around the directories as I was looking to when I first posted my message.
Now I have a very quick Start Menu, as I wanted.
Please, be aware that this operation hacks the security policies of WM5 and then any other application which may be dangerous can now run on your phone.
If you wish to stay on the safe side, it could be useful to restore the registry settings to their original values, but I do not know if this could cause other problems, since I didn't on my phone.
I actually double check every single file by myself before launching it and I do not run anything which I'm not sure it is safe.
So, pay attention... (you have been warned...).
Hope this helps someone else out there.
Ciao
Thanks for the tips mate! I was searching around for the same problem.
Can a hard reset put all the files back as in the old WM2003? I'm asking that 'cause if you look at the windows directory, many exe and dll files are repeated, with a different code. I guessed they are for the many different languages the phone support and the code is the country code. Maybe when you switch from one language to another those files are renamed so you have the correct exe and dll for the language you need...
If I can erase all the files I don't need (I will never change the language or maybe have only italian and english) I can save lot of space.
Am I wrong? Was that ever tried before?
vbi said:
Thanks for the tips mate! I was searching around for the same problem.
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;-) I knew...
Can a hard reset put all the files back as in the old WM2003? I'm asking that 'cause if you look at the windows directory, many exe and dll files are repeated, with a different code. I guessed they are for the many different languages the phone support and the code is the country code. Maybe when you switch from one language to another those files are renamed so you have the correct exe and dll for the language you need...
If I can erase all the files I don't need (I will never change the language or maybe have only italian and english) I can save lot of space.
Am I wrong? Was that ever tried before?
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In order:
- Yes, I suppose a hard reset of the device completely restores the original factory settings, hence, the device will appear as "brand new".
- You're right: all the localized files present there are just to be able to swithc to other languages (maybe following user's settings and maybe also following user's SIM settings too...).
- Erasing the unused files may appear as a "space saving" job. It is not. First of all you will not be able to remove ROM resident files, but provided you could be able to do this, you will not be able to use ROM space as you intend...
Finally then, it's completely unuseful to try to remove them, just a waste of time trying...
Ciao
Thanks Michele.
Are you sure the windows directory is in ROM?
I always tought ROM was only to store the "disk" image when you hard reset the device. I was so for the Qtek S100.
vbi said:
Are you sure the windows directory is in ROM?
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Yes it is. On the fact that it is then copied into RAM, well, this is a tecnique which was used up to WM2003 SE devices.
Starting from WM5 devices MS somewhat changed the behaviour of the whole system, hence I'm not then so sure.
Indeed, I have never been sure of anything, beside death, so you can imagine...
I'm not really so "expert".
Having used an MPx220 for over one year (with all its limitations, but exploiting it very much), using a WM5 device now is a much more relaxed experience (faster, more realiable and less troubly in terms of memory).
Just MHO
Thanks Mix - i followed your directions and it worked.
Got my QTEK (running i-Mate ROM) Application Unlocked
hello im new here,
the problem i have is that my device will not sync/connect with windows/activesync, it synced once recently, i was able to explore the device but several minutes later the connection died.
i think there may be some setting preventing syncing/usb connection.
i cannot change any settings since theres a startup program that wont let me close it, but if i press the calendar button that appears briefly.
http://www.pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=305
this is my device, i have tried himaupdate and the latest version of hima but i get connection errors, once briefly i got it to go to the upgrade screen where i get to see the version from and to ..
the device is connected by cradle and if i pull it out and stick it in active sync reacts but then doesnt connect.
i have tried moving, holding, adjusting, wiggling the device in the cradle thinking it might be not touching the pins but no help.
what i think i need is to eith disable startup scripts or have some sort of brute flashing utility to upgrade it. thing is i dont know ebough about these devices to try anything more adventurous without help/assistance.
please can you help me out?
did you put it in bootloader mode before trying to upgrade ?
if not do so
how would one put it in boot loader ?
i am pc savvy not pocketpc savvy
thank you
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/inde...wx20.dox20.Ix20.enterx20.thex20.Bootloaderx3f.
hey great faq, im one step closer i think,
i needed my gf to help me with the vulcan death pinch.
this is what i see, and my device is recognised by windows as a new usb device that i have no drivers for...
i cannot find any drivers on the manufacturers site
let it use internet ms site as possible search for drivers then it should see it as some ms generic device
which can recieve flash from the tool
Rudegar, i have tried the windows update for drivers and other places online including the ppc_usb10.exe, and still no luck.
i bought myself an sd card is there any way of flashing from the sd card using the magical bootloader ?
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well i have copied some files to my sd card, and inserted the cared into my device booted into bootloader mode,
Code:
FlashUpdateUtility.dll Application Extension 76 KB 16/06/2004 11:12:16
MC50.TXT Text Document 384 B 12/09/2006 18:07:02
MC50wseApp00B.hex HEX File 2,172 KB 12/09/2006 16:14:36
MC50wseIPL06270500.hex HEX File 194 KB 28/06/2005 12:23:54
MC50wseOS12120500.bgz BGZ File 15,332 KB 13/12/2005 01:03:20
MC50wsePlat019.hex HEX File 4,134 KB 12/09/2006 16:13:34
MC50wsePt64M003.hex HEX File 10 KB 11/01/2005 09:59:54
OSUPD50.EXE Application 37 KB 13/05/2004 10:50:18
OSUPDATE.EXE Application 4 KB 03/11/2004 03:41:56
then i executed all the .hex files when given the option, after that my device became windows ce, with almost no other than basic software installed.
i would like to know where i could find hex files for windows mobile 2005, or if i can extract hex files from "nk.nbf"
thank you,
Can anyone confirm or deny that either of the two programs work with the brand new rom?
They didn't with 3.27. There also is a newer version of Card Export out now.
Still not working for me on the official 3.35 ROM. I'd love to get this fixed. That was an essential feature for me and it sucks not having it.
Were you referring to Card Export II 3.08 or WM5torage?
both....
I was running Card Export 3.06, so when I saw your post I was hoping 3.08 would work. Installed it and still no love. This sucks.
Edit: I submitted a bug report at Softick's website. Here's hoping for a resolution
WM5torage 1.75 works with the new rom.
Not working for me. Did you do anything special? What ROM are you running? I'm on the official Sprint 3.35 release.
Also posted at PPCGeeks,
For those interested in Card Export/WM5torage:
I don't know about everyone else, but the ability to use my phone as a flash drive for transfering files is a huge advantage for me. Activesynce/WMDC blows, and is not installed on every computer. Since the update to 3.XX ROMs, neither of these programs has worked (at least for me). I've been in touch with Softick (makers of Card Export) and I think we will have a solution soon. I've run some debug programs for them and they have developed a working version. Not sure when the final release will be, but hopefully soon. I was amazed at how responsive their team was. The day after I emailed them, the developer was in contact with me. I ran some debug programs, and the next day he had a working test version for me to try. Really awesome to see them working that quickly to develop a fix. If I hear anything about the final release I'll post again. Just thought some people might want to know.
atomclock said:
WM5torage 1.75 works with the new rom.
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is this inaccurate information??
i have both working on dcd 3.01 rom with the new 3.35 radio. I also discovered a way to unhide the extrom in dcd's kitchen and without the bug that happens when u follow this links suggestion : http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...ghlight=EXTRom
I have the phone recognize my extrom as a Mounted Volume or a harddrive for a lack of a better term. This means that since it is recognized as other than an extension of the primary, u could get files to treat it like a 2nd harddrive, maybe have a two OS's installed at 1 time. ( wm5 and then wm6 ) just boot into which 1 u want to use. or im working on trying to get the WM^ to treat it like a swap file for extra 10mb of memory. swap files r treated just like system memory by the Operating system.
any how u just have to make some reg changes and u are in business
bunvilla said:
i have both working on dcd 3.01 rom with the new 3.35 radio. I also discovered a way to unhide the extrom in dcd's kitchen and without the bug that happens when u follow this links suggestion : http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...ghlight=EXTRom
I have the phone recognize my extrom as a Mounted Volume or a harddrive for a lack of a better term. This means that since it is recognized as other than an extension of the primary, u could get files to treat it like a 2nd harddrive, maybe have a two OS's installed at 1 time. ( wm5 and then wm6 ) just boot into which 1 u want to use. or im working on trying to get the WM^ to treat it like a swap file for extra 10mb of memory. swap files r treated just like system memory by the Operating system.
any how u just have to make some reg changes and u are in business
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would you care to further explain exactly how you got wm5torage and card export working on dcd's 3.01 rom with the new 3.35 radio? cause i jus tried both on the same rom and it's a no go for me, using the computer operating system windows XP. i have seen them work in linux.
well first i have the security and encryption off/ second, my version of both those progs are cracked, so they have been altered and third i thinks got something to do with the fact that i use QPST program which i have both 6700 and 6800 usb drivers on my phone. i use the 6700 usb drivers for that program and possibly thats what is making those programs work. U know because i havent had a problem with them i never thought about it./ but i couldnt but a 100 percent sure, but it would be my best guess. besides from my last post u can see that i have been messing with my extrom in which i use the 2 progs to help me with
how'd u get the 6700 usb drivers on your phone? u cooked it in using dcd's kitchen? where'd u get the 6700 drivers from? the apache kitchen??
card export II seemed to work w/ linux for me (did an "ls" to see the directory listing), However, when used with Server 2003 (my regular desktop that has activesync), it mounted itself, but when I went to see the drive, it was empty.
exactly the same for me. works in linux...and is visible but empty in windows. wonder how bunvilla got it to work. he's the only one so far that's been able to get them working.
says the drivers from the 6700 is on his 6800...sounds very likely to work that way but.....wonder how he got the drivers from the 6700??
Hopefully they will figure out something soon. This program is really helpful.
i want to make sure we are on the same page ok. When i use that program I only have access to my SD card. I cant access my phone folders. So when im at work and i want to save something to my sd card i turn on Card Export II 3.08 and then the little green light comes on and in a minute it shows up when i click "my computer" icon. But u know something ever since i changed the extrom to Mounted Volume ( no i didnt just rename the Extrom to Mounted Volume) it shows up too as a little 9mb removeable drive right below my Sd card.
so in the main directory there are 2 extra removable drives that shows up, and the only thing i can think of is my SDcard is formatted fat32.
Oh and by the way i didnt extract the 6700 usb drivers from a 6700 phone, i got them from a website and i rename my usb drvs for the 6800 and use the 6700 usb drvs and then switch when im done.
someone told me that i was doing it the hard way but it works for me. hope this helps some,
there are those times when stuff jus doesnt work for everyone else. sound like a lucky dude and congrats...cause NO ONE else can get it to work. not even the company who created the program. they're supposed to be working on a fix now.
well u know something else that i have that nobody else seems to have is the extrom , on my version of DCD' 3.01 everyone else seem to have issues with that too. at best they get extrom and extrom2 showing up when they use No2chem unlock extrom in the root directory of thier phone. I include a thumb shot of my root and u will see that i not only fixed that issue i also have the extrom show up as a removable drive and it changed from extrom to Mounted Volume and i didnt rename it that, it happened because of the reg edits i made and flashdrv.dll i used. im surprised that doesnt get your curiosity. I can both read and write to it, might even be able to add it to the pagepool. im working it right so i will let u know if i succeed .
WM5torage 1.8 hacked version working
Hey all. Found this on one of the kaiser forums.
I can verify that I have successfully used this cab on my sprint mogul with OLD stock rom 2.17
The steps required are as follows:
1.Install hacked cab below
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=69221&d=1202300677
2.Soft Reset
3.Click yes to install card export and then OK to error messages
4.Open WM5torage and disable rndis
Note:According to thread, this will not work if you have ever installed card export on your system. Not sure why
Note 2: I am using 512microsd card with stock rom. I am about to reflash (for a change) and will repost later with my custom rom based on new 3.35
-Josh
bunvilla said:
well u know something else that i have that nobody else seems to have is the extrom , on my version of DCD' 3.01 everyone else seem to have issues with that too. at best they get extrom and extrom2 showing up when they use No2chem unlock extrom in the root directory of thier phone. I include a thumb shot of my root and u will see that i not only fixed that issue i also have the extrom show up as a removable drive and it changed from extrom to Mounted Volume and i didnt rename it that, it happened because of the reg edits i made and flashdrv.dll i used. im surprised that doesnt get your curiosity. I can both read and write to it, might even be able to add it to the pagepool. im working it right so i will let u know if i succeed .
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it gets my curisoty as well. one thing i have to say is it appears your level of geekiness is definitely a step above mines. u're a smart guy man. would be nice if you could maybe dump that rom of yours for us and maybe create a bunvilla's rom based off dcd's 3.01 with wm5torage and a mountable extrom working. im almost certain it would get a substantial amount of users.
please rom cookers have a look .can u guys cook rom for our device by this method .
if we got success in this matter no device will be bricked.
i m not so aware of technical terms .so i cant advice u guys!!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=520009
sorry for my bad english
i hope u will understand what i want to say
thanks!!!!!!!!
We are aware of this system, but right now, the system is under testing and not fully working. Rest assured when it becomes fully ready and if its possible to use it on gene, we will definately use it.
I said if it is possible, because, on gene, the concept of ULDR partition doesn't exists as far as i know. And ULDR partition is an integral component of that system. ULDR was most probably introduced in WM 6.1 but since Gene is a WM 6 device, it doesn't have the parition layout entry for ULDR. I could be wrong, this is just what my logic says based on my current information.
Also, it wont prevent bricking, as for the system to work, you will need to flash a ROM that supports the ULDR partition and the update system itself, before anything else. For that, you will need to patch your SPL as cooked ROMS will never have the HTC's digital signature. And as we know, patching the SPL is the reason behind all the bricking mess.
But anyways, thanks a lot for sharing
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Will it ever work?
I have read the thread sometime back, but I have a few queries...
1. When you upgrade your OS from, say 98 to XP or XP to Vista, there always is a performance issue (compared to formatting your hard drive and doing a fresh install). And since our WinMo are nothing but hand held PCs (well you can say that, it got a processor, a hard disk (ROM), RAM), I guess that issue will crop up here as well.
2. What will happen if you have a 3rd party s/w which is incompatible with the new version of WM? Those of you who are in the PC tech field for a long time, you know after you have upgraded your OS, you can't use that software, neither can you uninstall it ...
So there will be issues, if I am not wrong.
But thats only my opinion. Most pple here are head and shoulders above me technically .
@Addicted: Well, Here are my opinions on your queries :
1. Yes, if the registry of the PPC is having some problems, then it will be an issue. Its a bigger issue in PCs as compared to PPCs coz in PCs the software are huge in size and they write thousands of entries to registry, modify system files etc. SO when an upgrade occurs, these changes either cause a corrupted registry, or in the second case when system files had been modified or replaced by a program, these files will be again updated by the OS and the program may not work, and if its a system level program with deep roots in system functionality, it will cause the system to slowdown at least or crash at worse.
These issues dont affect PPC much coz, for one, PPC software are usually small, they dont write much in registry (ms office on pc for example on PC writes a few thousand keys to registry while registering COM servers etc while MS Office on PPC just adds 10 or 20), and since the OS files are in ROM, they cant be touched by a software. They will remain overridden, if they have beem overridden as the updating process doesn't touch the phone memory.
2. Think again buddy, this is not applicable for WinMO. When you flash a ROM, you already change your OS version, so that will happen anyway, if you flash a ROM or you use the update system on an existing ROM.
I hope this would have cleared your doubts.
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2. Think again buddy, this is not applicable for WinMO. When you flash a ROM, you already change your OS version, so that will happen anyway, if you flash a ROM or you use the update system on an existing ROM.
I hope this would have cleared your doubts.
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Actually you did not get me about the second issue, what I was trying to say is, if you flash your ROM, you incompatible program will be deleted (obviously) and thus free up space, but if you upgrade, your program will still take up space but will be of no use to you. Since most of the programs in Winmo are stored in Windows folder itself, it will be next to impossible for 99% users to identify the files to delete .
i already talk about image update in visual kitchen for gene thread, all this take lots time. da_g bepe and lots senior ppl are working on this its required new kitchen new rom format
as per i know it's required more rom space which not possible on gene rom
thanks !!!!!! guys for taking interest.
i like it because i have bricked my gene 4 times and got new motherboard.
but now my phone is not in under warranty so i cant take more risk.
i have done all methods correctly but unfortunately i was failed every time .
so after a year of trying i m still using wm5. so i want a new method without
zero risk for updating my rom.
Sorry buddy, but I dont think you can damage ur MB by wrong flash .