What is "Odin" and what does it do? What kind of file is it? Should I have it downloaded?
Odin and tar.md5 files are Samsung's version of HTC's RUU and Moto's SBF files.
Oh ok I got it now! Thanks man! Should I have that downloaded to be safe? Is it required to root on the fascinate?
I have it available just as a precaution in case something goes wrong. It isn't required to root your phone, but it can be useful if it stops working or if you want to go back to stock.
Ok by the way I have a quick question on rooting...Is superoneclick safe?
I've never used super one click root, but if you install a custom rom, they tend to all be pre-rooted.
How would I install a rom without being rooted?!!!
Odin.
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Instead of asking questions, you should read up on the stickies thread in the development section. Evrrything you want to know about Odin and roms is there. First hand experience helps as well.
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Making any changes without having or knowing the basics of odin is not a good idea. I don't think any of those apps play nice with this phone and soft bricking is likely. Best to learn how to recover before your forced to
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Hey, I just updated over Kies (which worked perfectly BTW) and now I'm trying to root but for some reason it fails to do so. Has this happened to anyone else?
No problems. Look up.oneclickroot
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I went fine for me using oneclick.
Can someone link to the one click root for me please?
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I don't think you can root the update, something to do with the 3e recovery I think. There is a way to mod the 3e recovery to allow for root, there are directions somewhere in one of the threads.
I just install one of the pre-rooted ones in the dev section, the hardwork was done thanks to the nice devs.
My girlfriend has a stock vibrant and wants the news and weather widget but it doesn't come in the 2.2 update so I need to install it but can't without root. At least I don't think I can. Any suggestions would be great. Thanks!
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Might be device dependent - I ended up Odining back to stock and starting over with a rooted flash because it would not pass sig check for me no matter what after the kies update.
Use freaking one click root...
Do a google search on that and you'll find a link on xda..
Have u heard of google?
With One-Click Root I'm getting "E:signature verification failed". Anybody have any ideas on how to get around this?
Just ODIN Supercurios KA6 voodoo kernel with root & cwm in it already
Really think I don't know how to root? Come on.
It is not working for some of those who ended up with the .sbl. Odin out, and flash a rooted version if you are one of those who can't beat the sig check.
So I have a Telus Fascinate, Since its basically the same this as the Vibrant "plus a d" Should I be following instructions on how to root it on this forum. I tried to root it a couple months ago with Bionix-x or something like that and it bricked my phone and I'm scared to try again.
Basically my question is what kernel should I use? I have a Mac, is there a better program that ODIN? Also, Whats the advantage of using a program like SGS downloaded from the marketplace to flash after I root the phone? Is it less risky? I DO NOT want to brick my phone again.
Sorry for being a noob here, There's not alot of Telus support here and I don't want to mess anything up. I used to have a Touch Pro that was very easy to switch rom's on...I miss the old days...
Thanks!
You should check out this thread. Great guide for Telus 'Fascinate' phones.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=923712
If you're working from the stock rom, then you shouldn't have to worry about having to use ODIN.
I generally only use it when I screw something up and need to go back to the stock rom. I'm not sure what you can use as an alternative to ODIN. I'm sure there's alternatives to ODIN, but I'm too lazy to find what they are.
akumasakana said:
You should check out this thread. Great guide for Telus 'Fascinate' phones.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=923712
If you're working from the stock rom, then you shouldn't have to worry about having to use ODIN.
I generally only use it when I screw something up and need to go back to the stock rom. I'm not sure what you can use as an alternative to ODIN. I'm sure there's alternatives to ODIN, but I'm too lazy to find what they are.
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Heimdal is one option.
Is there a way to root without flashing an insecure kernel?
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Is there a way to root without flashing an insecure kernel?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1286432
Thanks a bunch entropy. But i was thinking more along the lines of using superoneclick or something on stock kernel. I've never rooted a Samsung device. I guess the atrix devs made stuff TOO easy.
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Thanks a bunch entropy. But i was thinking more along the lines of using superoneclick or something on stock kernel. I've never rooted a Samsung device. I guess the atrix devs made stuff TOO easy.
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The devs working on Samsung make it pretty easy too. Odin and One-Click Root have helped me with my original SGS many, many times. Hopefully, we'll see something similar for the SGSII, if it isn't out already.
Yeah, what happened to the good ol days of putting a root file named update.zip and going in to stock recovery to use it?
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Thanks a bunch entropy. But i was thinking more along the lines of using superoneclick or something on stock kernel. I've never rooted a Samsung device. I guess the atrix devs made stuff TOO easy.
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Atrix is not easy haha. this is my second Smasung. once you get to know odin you will reaize its a life saver and sooo easy. you cant brick these things lol
abacon15 said:
Yeah, what happened to the good ol days of putting a root file named update.zip and going in to stock recovery to use it?
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i'm pretty sure you can't do that anymore because those flaws were patched.
I'm pretty new to the samsung rooting world, this is my first real samsung device. What the heck is odin? What is the difference in rooting using superoneclick and Entropy512's method? Sorry for the newb question.
abacon15 said:
Yeah, what happened to the good ol days of putting a root file named update.zip and going in to stock recovery to use it?
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Stock recovery won't flash ZIPs not signed by Samsung.
On older devices, the road to CWM that was easiest was usually:
Root, replace recovery with a hacked version that disabled signing checks
However, in later versions of Gingerbread, all of the usual methods of rooting were closed because malware was using the same holes. As a result, SOC is unable to root a device without some "help", and on Samsung devices that "help" is an insecure kernel.
SysAdmNj said:
I'm pretty new to the samsung rooting world, this is my first real samsung device. What the heck is odin? What is the difference in rooting using superoneclick and Entropy512's method? Sorry for the newb question.
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Odin is a program used by Samsung for device updates. It allows flashing of firmware in "download mode". The nice thing about this is that while it's easy to "softbrick" your phone with a bad kernel or corrupted system image, it is EXTREMELY difficult to corrupt the bootloaders used for download mode, especially on newer devices that go to extra lengths to protect their bootloaders from damage. As a result, for example, I know of a total of one hardbricked Infuse and that was the phone of a volunteer performing a dangerous experiment. There's an open-source reimplementation of Odin called Heimdall that a lot of people use, since Odin is Windows-only and Heimdall runs on Windows, MacOS, and Linux. I use heimdall because I run Linux.
The differences between rooting methods are not significant - different ways to achieve the end goal.
Insecure kernel + SuperOneClick - Will trigger "custom binary download" flags in the bootloader, but only requires fairly small downloads (maybe 20MB or so). Requires two steps (flashing the kernel, then SuperOneClicking)
Rooted system image (such as my unbrick) - Should not trigger "custom binary download" flags as the bootloader only seems to check the kernel for modifications. However it's a big download - around 250M if I recall correctly.
If you're going to eventually want to use Clockworkmod Recovery to install alternate ROMs and such, you'll have to install a custom kernel anyway. However my "unbrick" package is nice to have around if you hose up your system.
I'm planning on staying stock no custom kernel, rom or anything on that matter but I really need root. Don't really need CWM. Is there any other way to root beside going back to stock using Odin? I'm to lazy to set my phone back up. Or is superoneclick root working on a solution to easy root like on the infuse?
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Thanks entropy I'll try your stuff out
Dxtra said:
I'm planning on staying stock no custom kernel, rom or anything on that matter but I really need root. Don't really need CWM. Is there any other way to root beside going back to stock using Odin? I'm to lazy to set my phone back up. Or is superoneclick root working on a solution to easy root like on the infuse?
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In terms of "back to stock" - it means "back to stock firmware" - it won't touch your data partition, so if you're already on stock firmware, you should retain all your data.
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Thanks entropy I'll try your stuff out
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I've had no issues with Entropy's stock+root package. If anything goes wrong, just flash this and your good to go
Hello,
Have done some searches and I just wanted to see if this is right as my Note was rooted with Gingerbread 2.3 and I stupidly upgraded with Kies to the official AT&T ICS software and lost my root. I have just a few questions.
Would the only way to get a rooted stock ICS rom on the phone (such as those available in the forum) be to downgrade to Gingerbread and root (which I have done before) then install one of the custom "stock" roms to have ICS but have root access? Or am I completely out of luck on rooting a stock ICS Note?
If so, could someone direct me to the thread with downgrading to gingerbread, as a search has not helped me to find instructions for doing so, and with all of the information on this site, I believe it has to be there and that I a just missing it?
Feel free to delete my post if I am completely lost and have posted erroneously in the wrong forum or anything to that effect.
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Hello,
Have done some searches and I just wanted to see if this is right as my Note was rooted with Gingerbread 2.3 and I stupidly upgraded with Kies to the official AT&T ICS software and lost my root. I have just a few questions.
Would the only way to get a rooted stock ICS rom on the phone (such as those available in the forum) be to downgrade to Gingerbread and root (which I have done before) then install one of the custom "stock" roms to have ICS but have root access? Or am I completely out of luck on rooting a stock ICS Note?
If so, could someone direct me to the thread with downgrading to gingerbread, as a search has not helped me to find instructions for doing so, and with all of the information on this site, I believe it has to be there and that I a just missing it?
Feel free to delete my post if I am completely lost and have posted erroneously in the wrong forum or anything to that effect.
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Root with odin like you would on gb but on ICS. Just try the cm9 roms though, it will change your life
You do not need to downgrade to GB to root. What you need to do is boot the phone into download mode, and use Odin to flash a custom recovery (such as CWM). Once you have the custom recovery flashed, you can boot into recovery mode and flash the Superuser or Supersu zip file to give you root. Using this method is the most foolproof way.
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and, you would get better answers if you would post a question in the Q&A thread, not in general...
Look in the custom rom section of this loser's thread...he is such a loser...make sure you flame the hell out of him, but here is his link....
go the custom rom section...you will the awesome ics offical already root...and debloated, and one thread has the pure virgin stock ics ....blah blah blah....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1740367
myke nytemare said:
Hello,
Have done some searches and I just wanted to see if this is right as my Note was rooted with Gingerbread 2.3 and I stupidly upgraded with Kies to the official AT&T ICS software and lost my root. I have just a few questions.
Would the only way to get a rooted stock ICS rom on the phone (such as those available in the forum) be to downgrade to Gingerbread and root (which I have done before) then install one of the custom "stock" roms to have ICS but have root access? Or am I completely out of luck on rooting a stock ICS Note?
If so, could someone direct me to the thread with downgrading to gingerbread, as a search has not helped me to find instructions for doing so, and with all of the information on this site, I believe it has to be there and that I a just missing it?
Feel free to delete my post if I am completely lost and have posted erroneously in the wrong forum or anything to that effect.
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i can't stand bigjoe. he is such a tool.
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Why, because he shamelessly promotes his own rom with every chance he gets? Ya that sounds about right.
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Me tooo...
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i can't stand bigjoe. he is such a tool.
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Why, because he shamelessly promotes his own rom with every chance he gets? Ya that sounds about right.
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Think he was kidding...I think...LOL, and I try to promote all...hence the GNote Community thread, with all tools and ROMs and extras...(btw I dont have a ROM, but I do have DD...daily driver for a ROM)
[REF&Road Map]{G-NSET}: Galaxy Note Super Everything Thread (I717)
I will also be features Chef Ramsey dishes and the how to's....
of coarse i was kidding. stupid text and there lack of sounding sarcastic
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xshaftx said:
of coarse i was kidding. stupid text and there lack of sounding sarcastic
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good to go...no worries...
LOL
Hey guys. I am not from around here. You will normally find me hanging out in the Nexus forums. I need some help trying to correct an issue my noob buddy caused on his E970. He brought it to me today in a boot loop and apparently he rooted it an uninstalled some GAPPS and now he has this security error and BL. Now, so far I have managed to install the drivers..... that's it. I have worked on a variety of different devices but I am really having trouble with this. I think the issue is I can not find a thread that is comprehensive enough to explain what alot of the different tools are and what they do. I mean there is
1. LGNPST
2. Teenybin
3. Freegee or something like that
Then there about 14 different file types depending on the tool you are using. I have seen;
1. dll
2. bin
3. kdz
4. tot
I have to be honest with you guys this is confusing as hell. I keep coming across dead links and old downloads and stuff that may not work. I REALLY don't like using stuff not linked from XDA as that is all I've known for many years (not to say other sites aren't reputable but you never know) I can follow instructions and figure out most stuff on my own but due to the in completion of alot of this stuff and dead links I am kinda stuck I am gonna give it another go tomorrow but in the meantime if someone wants to drop me a link or word of advice as to where to at least start it would be awesome. I am pretty handy generally with this kind of thing but I guess that goes to show you sometimes you are only as good as the tools and directions you are working with. Thanks XDA Community! :good:
Okay the first three.
3.lgnpst is the program you will need to use to fix the security error which was caused by removing bloat without unlocking bootloader.
2.teenybin is used with lgnpst to unlock bootloader, update partitions to jb, and install recovery. It doesn't install firmware but could be used to restore if a rom was copied to sd to flash.
3.freegee is used to unlock bootloader and install recovery on a working phone.
Next four.
1.dll are files needed by windows.
2.bin is the extension the file needs to be for using lgnpst.
3.kdz is stock firmware for use with lgflashtool (used mainly for international phones)
4.tot is the extension the stock firmware is released with which will be renamed to bin before using lgnpst.
In the additional info section of teenbin thread there is a click to show content button that will have have links and guide for lgnpst. Use the tSilenzio version and it will register the DLL files on install.
Link to stock jb for use with lgnpst http://downloads.codefi.re/g33k3r/LGE970AT-01-V20j-310-410-MAR-08-2013.zip.
Link to teenybin thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2230994.
http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=lg-optimus-g link to irc for Optimus G.
adfurgerson said:
Okay the first three.
3.lgnpst is the program you will need to use to fix the security error which was caused by removing bloat without unlocking bootloader.
2.teenybin is used with lgnpst to unlock bootloader, update partitions to jb, and install recovery. It doesn't install firmware but could be used to restore if a rom was copied to sd to flash.
3.freegee is used to unlock bootloader and install recovery on a working phone.
Next four.
1.dll are files needed by windows.
2.bin is the extension the file needs to be for using lgnpst.
3.kdz is stock firmware for use with lgflashtool (used mainly for international phones)
4.tot is the extension the stock firmware is released with which will be renamed to bin before using lgnpst.
In the additional info section of teenbin thread there is a click to show content button that will have have links and guide for lgnpst. Use the tSilenzio version and it will register the DLL files on install.
Link to stock jb for use with lgnpst http://downloads.codefi.re/g33k3r/LGE970AT-01-V20j-310-410-MAR-08-2013.zip.
Link to teenybin thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2230994.
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Thank you. This is exactly what I needed. Someone just to say "these are what these things are and what they do". I do have to admit I don't fault my buddy too much for soft bricking this thing as of all the devices I've rooted or flashed to this seems the most confusing. And also it's very odd that if you remove BW without first unlocking the bootloader you get this error..... Why can't they all just be as easy as a Nexus? Lol.
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jcnbama said:
Thank you. This is exactly what I needed. Someone just to say "these are what these things are and what they do". I do have to admit I don't fault my buddy too much for soft bricking this thing as of all the devices I've rooted or flashed to this seems the most confusing. And also it's very odd that if you remove BW without first unlocking the bootloader you get this error..... Why can't they all just be as easy as a Nexus? Lol.
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A few other things that may help.
1.lgnpst is a pain with windows 8
2.it will not work with USB 3.0
3.be sure to right click lgnpst exe and run as admin
I got my OG right after release but had already been following forum, and would hate to have to jump in now and try to figure things out.
adfurgerson said:
A few other things that may help.
1.lgnpst is a pain with windows 8
2.it will not work with USB 3.0
3.be sure to right click lgnpst exe and run as admin
I got my OG right after release but had already been following forum, and would hate to have to jump in now and try to figure things out.
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Well its especially difficult when someone just brings you a phone and you've never even seen it booted up and you don't know all the weird quirky rules it has (like if you uninstall GAPPS without unlocking the bootloader then you get a bootloop.) lol Otherwise it seems like a solid phone. It has almost the same specs as my Nexus 4.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2067871
This link is for a flashable zip of rooted stock jb. If you used the teenybin files with lgnpst then flashed it with recovery the end result would be stock rom with unlocked bootloader, root, and custom recovery.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2067871
This link is for a flashable zip of rooted stock jb. If you used the teenybin files with lgnpst then flashed it with recovery the end result would be stock rom with unlocked bootloader, root, and custom recovery.
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Thanka I will look into this.! :thumbup:
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Real quick.... So once I've got everything back to stock and get the boot loader unlocked.. Will I then be able to modify system stuff, uninstall bloat etc and avoid that evil security error boot loop?
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jcnbama said:
Real quick.... So once I've got everything back to stock and get the boot loader unlocked.. Will I then be able to modify system stuff, uninstall bloat etc and avoid that evil security error boot loop?
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Yes, once you're unlocked & rooted you will be good to go. I would recommend flashing an established rom and installing the GApps that are recommended. It would be a lot more convenient and less of a hassle.
Make sure you are using TWRP, CWM was causing bugs with flashing of some roms. Hope this helps.
ZachIsLegend said:
Yes, once you're unlocked & rooted you will be good to go. I would recommend flashing an established rom and installing the GApps that are recommended. It would be a lot more convenient and less of a hassle.
Make sure you are using TWRP, CWM was causing bugs with flashing of some roms. Hope this helps.
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Awesome and once I've flashed a good rom. Would that then circumvent any future boatloads caused by modifications etc.? So in other words are those proprietary (catches) cooked out when the devs set up a rom? I would imagine so. I know most of us folks hate that kinda thing... Lol
BTW any tips on a good solid stable Jelly Bean Rom? Would want it to be pretty stable since it's not my phone... Lol
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This noob is a lucky guy to have you to help him out in his time of need. That is the awesome thing about the XDA community
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This noob is a lucky guy to have you to help him out in his time of need. That is the awesome thing about the XDA community
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Indeeeeeeed plus I'm gonna make him come and take down my Christmas lights after the holidays....
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Sounds like a fair deal. You do have a Griswold set up do you from national lampoons Christmas do you
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Hey thanks again everyone! Got the phone fixed. A stock AT&T 4.1.2 Rom on there and root privileges intact. Everything is good to go. I actually kinda like the phone a lot.... I really want an LG G2..... Oooh yeah... Thanks again everyone and maybe some one will find the instructions in this thread helpful.
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