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Just wondering if the OTA servers are back and if a new update is available?
They have been down several days. You can be patient and wait, or you can go over
to one of the threads in Developers and download the file version -- say 3588.
Usually you have to win-rar the download to get the update.zip and recovery folder.
Hook up your PC to you G-Tablet and copy both files to the /sdcard directory.
The shut down and boot into recovery using power/volume + and that you cause the update to load.
Hope this helps.
Rev
I was just hoping (maybe plz)
That a new release would bring us some honey happiness!
I am content with VegaN for now..
Sorry, but I don't frankly think we see honey-anything for a long while
unless its an out and out hack.
Google is being stupid and it seems to me the tablet companies are not
moving that fast either.
IN THE END, I think whether you are really happy with something -- as in
tablet -- depends on how you use what you've got to work with.
Rev
butchconner said:
Sorry, but I don't frankly think we see honey-anything for a long while
unless its an out and out hack.
Google is being stupid and it seems to me the tablet companies are not
moving that fast either.
IN THE END, I think whether you are really happy with something -- as in
tablet -- depends on how you use what you've got to work with.
Rev
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Its not google that is holding up things. Its the tablet manufacturers. We could have honeycomb if viewsonic released source code for the drivers we need. What viewsonic should be doing is using the developers here to improve there products!
But couldn't you....
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Its not google that is holding up things. Its the tablet manufacturers. We could have honeycomb if viewsonic released source code for the drivers we need. What viewsonic should be doing is using the developers here to improve there products!
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I'm not an expert or anything, but if the Xoom and the G-tab are as close in hardware as I've read, couldn't someone extract the drivers from a Xoom and use them in a G-tab? I hope I'm asking this correctly. I'm not sure how the dirvers are implimented in Android since I come from a PC background.
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I'm not an expert or anything, but if the Xoom and the G-tab are as close in hardware as I've read, couldn't someone extract the drivers from a Xoom and use them in a G-tab? I hope I'm asking this correctly. I'm not sure how the dirvers are implimented in Android since I come from a PC background.
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They aren't the same, that's the problem. Completely different system boards - the only thing the "same" that we know of is the CPU, and I believe the Wifi. The only issue is that the frame buffer seems to have moved to either the kernel or the bootloader, so even though we can boot up Honeycomb on the GTAB, no one's been able to activate the LCD (yet).
What we really need, from my "hacker" perspective, is another Harmony device like the Adam or VEGA to get Honeycomb. That's something we can use on the GTAB, since the boards are similar. Or, at the very least, for Nvidia to release a Honeycomb dev kit for the Harmony board. But so far none of these things have happened yet.
Imo, don't go on Honeycomb as your reason to own / keep a GTAB. I'd be more concerned about optimizing Froyo at this point. Google (and Nvidia) have really locked down Honeycomb so far, so who knows when a Harmony-based version will show up.
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They aren't the same, that's the problem. Completely different system boards - the only thing the "same" that we know of is the CPU, and I believe the Wifi. The only issue is that the frame buffer seems to have moved to either the kernel or the bootloader, so even though we can boot up Honeycomb on the GTAB, no one's been able to activate the LCD (yet).
What we really need, from my "hacker" perspective, is another Harmony device like the Adam or VEGA to get Honeycomb. That's something we can use on the GTAB, since the boards are similar. Or, at the very least, for Nvidia to release a Honeycomb dev kit for the Harmony board. But so far none of these things have happened yet.
Imo, don't go on Honeycomb as your reason to own / keep a GTAB. I'd be more concerned about optimizing Froyo at this point. Google (and Nvidia) have really locked down Honeycomb so far, so who knows when a Harmony-based version will show up.
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Thanks for the explaination. I'm very new to the Android world so I'm still struggling to get a "windows" reference to everything. I've tried a few of the gingerbread roms and really don't see much diference than the stock one. Apps appear to work the same and other than a speed increase, it was the same "experience" if you know what I mean. I just wish there were apps that took full use of the tablet experience.
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Thanks for the explaination. I'm very new to the Android world so I'm still struggling to get a "windows" reference to everything. I've tried a few of the gingerbread roms and really don't see much diference than the stock one. Apps appear to work the same and other than a speed increase, it was the same "experience" if you know what I mean. I just wish there were apps that took full use of the tablet experience.
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I had the same learning curve - Android is more like Windows CE than Windows, imo. As for Gingerbread, it's not a major update but it is a bit more polished and there are speed improvements - think of it as a "service pack", almost.
Has the Viewsonic Gtablet development become a standstill?
Thoughts?
Opinions?
No.... I believe not.
Now everyone's holding their breath for HC.
Here somewhere is a post about latest development (sorry can't find it now).
HC is already booting on G-tab. Hopefully devs will get everything they need to get it going.
Keep my fingers crossed!!!!
You have a cyanogen tag in your sig and yet you ask that? They are releasing nightlies at least once a week. As far as Honeycomb goes it may be booting but its completely worthless to use.
I think I'll keep my thoughts and opinions to myself as anything negative about the wonderous GTab is not tolerated here
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You have a cyanogen tag in your sig and yet you ask that? They are releasing nightlies at least once a week. As far as Honeycomb goes it may be booting but its completely worthless to use.
I think I'll keep my thoughts and opinions to myself as anything negative about the wonderous GTab is not tolerated here
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LMFAO, you can always talk about the "horrible viewing angle" everybody CAN agree on!
Kenfly, there is actual progress reported that I believe involves a dump of an ASUS Honeycomb box that has been ported to the Adam and there is a picture of it on a G-tab. I just read about actual WPA2 support too.
Here is the thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1065220
The good news is, Roebeet has taken an interest too, so there are some VERY clever guys working on this!
Yes there is but it is completely unuseable at this point.
I was told the viewing angles are not horrible and to expressing my opinion of that as well
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1064775
Follow that thread. Oozura is doing a great job keeping everyone up to date with cm nightlies and releases with bugs and bug fixes. They are making huge progress on major issues right now. It means at some point Gojimi will update VeganGinger as well.
If you follow that thread keep mashing that thanks button for him so people know there is interest and he keeps posting
I see it slowing down as more turn towards the newer tablets on the market. Updates wont be as frequent...
If you have it setup good now then you'll be ok. Its not like the internet, video or audio will stop working because of this.
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Thoughts?
Opinions?
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No?
Looks like tons of action to me - pershoot and others have delivered stable overclocked/undervolted kernels in the past week, and the CM7 team has cranked out two stable and about 10 nightly revs in the past week, going from "yes, it sorta works" to functional camera and some hardware acceleration for video playback.
What projects are you working on?
there are more forums to search than the ones here (hint)
There's a lot going on, in early (VERY EARLY) stages.
While some might believe that the Gtab is worthless, I would argue that the hardware itself is not at all. The company that put their name on it, and their "support" might very well be as worthless as a batteries to the Amish.
There are experiments going on utilizing The Notion Ink Adam, and porting it's software to the G-tab. There's a rumor that they are getting an official GB update, and if portable to the G-tab, then we could essentially have an "official" GB Rom (including drivers from Nvidea), without VS needing to get their hands dirty. There are a few comparable (in hardware) tablets out there that are getting the support from their manufacturers that we would like to get from VS. If we can't get VS to update, then the next best thing is to borrow updates from other systems.
If it all works out, it will definitely not be a quick release. Lots of testing would be needed, since the code being worked on is not "made" for the G-tablet.
The reason that it seems like development has halted, or at best, slowed down, is because nothing new is coming from the allmighty VS. Nothing can be developed from the nothing that they are constantly providing. The only development that can be done is using existing Roms, and tweaking them. The bottom line, though, is that unless VS comes out with a GB Rom WITH hardware drivers, the current batch of custom Roms, Vegan-Tab, VeganGinger, CM7, TNT, etc. are dead in the water, and will never have hardware acceleration, since they are all based off of old code, that doesn't include it.
So, simple answer, there are developments that are ongoing, there are tweaks and fixes, possibly additions to some of the existing roms, but there will never be any development on new VS rom, until VS actually releases a new VS rom.
Only one person is building off VS firmware. Everyone else is using Google source and from the commits that Nvidia is making to git. VeganGinger and CM7 are under constant development and CM gets closer everyday to finalizing hardware acceleration. Vegan-Tab is froyo and based off vega firmware and has hardware acceleration as does TNTlite.
Depending on Notion Ink, the king of stretching the truth, for something is knuts
And yes there are some half ass non useful ports of Honeycomb posted on other sites. Nothing works. Its a honeycomb gui hacked into an old kernel
TJEvans said:
While some might believe that the Gtab is worthless, I would argue that the hardware itself is not at all. The company that put their name on it, and their "support" might very well be as worthless as a batteries to the Amish.
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Great analogy. =)
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There are experiments going on utilizing The Notion Ink Adam, and porting it's software to the G-tab. There's a rumor that they are getting an official GB update, and if portable to the G-tab, then we could essentially have an "official" GB Rom (including drivers from Nvidea), without VS needing to get their hands dirty. There are a few comparable (in hardware) tablets out there that are getting the support from their manufacturers that we would like to get from VS. If we can't get VS to update, then the next best thing is to borrow updates from other systems.
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The NI software release, if they do in fact follow through with something for once, will be utilizing the exact same GB-compatible drivers that we already have. We already have "official" GB ROMs with the same level of HW accel that anything from NI would come out with. We already have those drivers from nVidia. =)
But you're right in implying that VS won't have to get their hands dirty. =)
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Nothing can be developed from the nothing that they are constantly providing. The only development that can be done is using existing Roms, and tweaking them. The bottom line, though, is that unless VS comes out with a GB Rom WITH hardware drivers, the current batch of custom Roms, Vegan-Tab, VeganGinger, CM7, TNT, etc. are dead in the water, and will never have hardware acceleration, since they are all based off of old code, that doesn't include it.
So, simple answer, there are developments that are ongoing, there are tweaks and fixes, possibly additions to some of the existing roms, but there will never be any development on new VS rom, until VS actually releases a new VS rom.
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Actually.... you're incorrect here. New development is being done completely independent of VS. It's called CyanogenMod-based and AOSP-based ROMs and they are completely different than those based on VS or NI-based ROMs which anything based on those are in fact MODs and tweaks. CM and AOSP ROMs are based on newer code and do include the foundation for hw acceleration.
So to summarize - development is not dead if you're not based on a locked bootloader and stock ROM from VS. If you're based on Google and nVidia then there is definitely development going on. It's all in what your base is.
We already have "official" GB ROMs with the same level of HW accel that anything from NI would come out with. We already have those drivers from nVidia.
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You'll have to excuse my ignorance on this issue, as all I've used so far is Vegan-Tab. I love it, it's stable, and I've not seen any inherent problems with it, so I figure, why change?
But, I thought that CM7 and VeganGinger had issues with video playback and 3d video acceleration, since Nvidea is "no longer going to support the Harmony Tegra 2 chipset." I don't know much about CM7, but from reading their website, and observing some of the experimental posts, it doesn't seem that they've been able to truly replicate the drivers that, I believe, Nvidea owes us. Nvidea said that they will provide support and updates if manufacturers requested it. As far as I know, Viewsonic only had one update since they made that statement, and it didn't include anything new from NVidea.
I had assumed that since this rumored NI GB update was official from the manufacturer, that they wouldn't have done it without getting official drivers from Nvidea.
I'm sorry, is there something I'm missing? I thought that it was a big deal that NVidea hasn't provided driver updates for true hardware acceleration, and that it can't be achieved without informaiton from them, and that they've decided ot no longer support...
it's a confusing world in the land of G-Tab.
TJEvans said:
You'll have to excuse my ignorance on this issue, as all I've used so far is Vegan-Tab. I love it, it's stable, and I've not seen any inherent problems with it, so I figure, why change?
But, I thought that CM7 and VeganGinger had issues with video playback and 3d video acceleration, since Nvidea is "no longer going to support the Harmony Tegra 2 chipset." I don't know much about CM7, but from reading their website, and observing some of the experimental posts, it doesn't seem that they've been able to truly replicate the drivers that, I believe, Nvidea owes us. Nvidea said that they will provide support and updates if manufacturers requested it. As far as I know, Viewsonic only had one update since they made that statement, and it didn't include anything new from NVidea.
I had assumed that since this rumored NI GB update was official from the manufacturer, that they wouldn't have done it without getting official drivers from Nvidea.
I'm sorry, is there something I'm missing? I thought that it was a big deal that NVidea hasn't provided driver updates for true hardware acceleration, and that it can't be achieved without informaiton from them, and that they've decided ot no longer support...
it's a confusing world in the land of G-Tab.
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The rumored NI GB update is just that - rumor just like all the other NI rumors. We'll see what happens.
As to nVidia - the 3991 update that was later pulled from VS contained updated GB-compatible libs that were from the Gingerbread Ventana system image from nVidia. Those libs were (and still are) in CM7 and AOSP and VEGAn-TAB. Hacks and mods have been inserted to make CM7 work with them and hw accel is functioning much better after pershoot's kernel overclocking.
thank you for the clarification
Hello All,
I'm interested in installing a Honeycomb ROM but can't figure
out which ROM would be best for me, BoS 5.2 or Illuminate.
I would primarily use the following applications, in order of importance:
Yahoo Mail
GMail
Netflix
Facebook
Tune-In Radio
Player Pro (for my music library)
Pandora
Watching Movies
Reading USA Toady
Reading Other Magazine sources.
Thanks in advance for any insight you can provide.
Thanks,
Paul
Netflix doesn't work on any Honeycomb ROM, including official devices like the Motorola Xoom and Asus Transformer, etc...
So if that is a high priority on your above list, then you do not want a Honeycomb based ROM at this time.
Don't forget the mod called "Flashback" (over in Slatedroid - just google it). That's not mine, but the modder for it is working very hard on it right now.
This is the HC ROM that actually has PC mounting working, but sacrifices the gsensor to get it. So it's just another option for you.
None of the HC ROMs supports Netflix, btw. Some of the other apps I'm not 100% sure about.
pmuch12345 said:
Hello All,
I'm interested in installing a Honeycomb ROM but can't figure
out which ROM would be best for me, BoS 5.2 or Illuminate.
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Neither.
Honeycomb is not ready for public consumption. It's only recommended for testers and people who don't panic easily due to technical difficulties.
Of course, my words keep getting ignored and then we regularly keep getting newbies borking their gtabs while trying to use a honeycomb hack. One user even dared to come here and dissed BoS, complaining that he couldn't use his camera.
If you must, just wait a couple weeks for a real honeycomb port with HW acceleration (hint hint).
Very true - "alpha" means not complete / things are broken / expect weird issues. Some people do use it as their day-to-day, but that's with the understanding that there are some things that just don't work and they've accepted that.
Thanks for bottle of smoke roebeet, I'm loving it. Most of what I use it for works great and it seems to run much more smoothly than Vegan Ginger did for me. The only issue that is at all bothersome to me atm is A2DP bluetooth. Is there HC ROM that has it working?
Thanks again.
Pexcer said:
Thanks for bottle of smoke roebeet, I'm loving it. Most of what I use it for works great and it seems to run much more smoothly than Vegan Ginger did for me. The only issue that is at all bothersome to me atm is A2DP bluetooth. Is there HC ROM that has it working?
Thanks again.
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Honestly not sure - the drivers in BoS (and probably the rest of these HC ROMs) are based on the 3.0.1 stuff from ASUS, so my guess is that if it works in one, it should work on the other (or not, in the reverse).
Neither, wait for any or all of them to get out of Alpha stage. And even then I would wait until they stabilize because i wouldn't want to risk bricking my tablet.
What is it about Honey Comb you want? If you want a honeycomb look, you should consider different launchers and Widgets. The gtab for dummies site has further info, there's a link in goodintensions' signature.
1. How is video acceleration on Honeycomb? I heard either Bos or Illuminate has video acceleration?
2. Best overclocking kernel for beginners. I'm looking for a quick and easy solution to install. Post the best tutorial(s)
3. Does netflix work? If so, post the best tutorial(s)
4. I have a Seagate Freeagent 1.5tb portable hard drive (USB 3.0). Will I be able to hook that up to the tablet and watch my movies/videos on it?
Thanks!
EDIT: I bought it from Tigerdirect.ca for $269 + taxes and it should be here on Monday
*Sigh*
The current honeycomb roms are not recommended for beginners. Right now, only froyo has full hardware acceleration. Nothing else have hardware acceleration. I suggest you start out with froyo first before you take it further.
All honeycomb roms are in their alpha stages and therefore only recommended for testers and experienced users. I swear, if I see another beginner whining about the lack of full functionality on the honeycomb roms...
I'm not complaining. Just inquiring
goodintentions I'm going to borrow your line,
I highly recommend an iPad.
Read, Read, Read!!!!!!
Do your homework before you write the final exam Seriously, I've done more reading on here than I've done modding on my Gtab. There are plenty of sources of good info on here. Don't rush into action before you read the experiences and recommendations of others.
Start with the stock 3588.
Use it for a few days.
Then try Vegan-Tab for a few days.
Then try Vegan Gingerbread RC1
You can also try CM7
If you're happy, dont change.
If you have learned all the nuances, and want to experiment, learn NVFlash and go nuts...
But what about playing videos from the external hard drive mentioned?
To give you an idea of the mentality recently on this site, I'l edit your post title...
"Just bought a G-Tablet, DON'T WANT TO LOOK FOR MY OWN ANSWERS"
Just today, I read a post that spoke ot external harddrives. I haven't personally tried it yet, but someone mentioned that as long as the hard drive works under it's own power (not a flash drive) that it should work. But here's an idea for you, plug it in and try it...see for yourself if it works or not.
to your other questions:
1. How is video acceleration on Honeycomb? I heard either Bos or Illuminate has video acceleration?
On Froyo roms it works fine, Gingerbread roms have a pieced together form of it by overclocking, but there are no Nvidea drivers for Gingerbread. Likewise, there are also no drivers for Honeycomb.
2. Best overclocking kernel for beginners. I'm looking for a quick and easy solution to install. Post the best tutorial(s)
Look for your own tutorials, man. I've been using Calkulin/Clemsyn combo for about a week and love it. (Clemsyn part is the kernel) Really, you'll only find 2 different kernels that are popular. Clemsyn and Pershoot. Both are great
3. Does netflix work? If so, post the best tutorial(s)
Netflix only works 100% on CM7, but tweaking is necessary. Right now, I suggest that you forget about netflix and use the tablet for apps that actually work on it.
to be honest, all of your questions can be answered simply by browsing these forums. Hell, just looking for 10 minutes I can find a post called "Best Roms?" "Fastest most stable roms?" There are many about netflix alone. And It's basic knowledge, from reading, reading, and more reading, that ONLY FROYO ROMS HAVE HARDWARE DRIVERS THAT ENABLE ACCELERATION.
now, start reading...when you think you're done, read some more. When you're done, go to Slatedroid and read some more...and then some more...pretty soon, you'll be an expert!
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To give you an idea of the mentality recently on this site, I'l edit your post title...
"Just bought a G-Tablet, DON'T WANT TO LOOK FOR MY OWN ANSWERS"
Just today, I read a post that spoke ot external harddrives. I haven't personally tried it yet, but someone mentioned that as long as the hard drive works under it's own power (not a flash drive) that it should work. But here's an idea for you, plug it in and try it...see for yourself if it works or not.
to your other questions:
1. How is video acceleration on Honeycomb? I heard either Bos or Illuminate has video acceleration?
On Froyo roms it works fine, Gingerbread roms have a pieced together form of it by overclocking, but there are no Nvidea drivers for Gingerbread. Likewise, there are also no drivers for Honeycomb.
2. Best overclocking kernel for beginners. I'm looking for a quick and easy solution to install. Post the best tutorial(s)
Look for your own tutorials, man. I've been using Calkulin/Clemsyn combo for about a week and love it. (Clemsyn part is the kernel) Really, you'll only find 2 different kernels that are popular. Clemsyn and Pershoot. Both are great
3. Does netflix work? If so, post the best tutorial(s)
Netflix only works 100% on CM7, but tweaking is necessary. Right now, I suggest that you forget about netflix and use the tablet for apps that actually work on it.
to be honest, all of your questions can be answered simply by browsing these forums. Hell, just looking for 10 minutes I can find a post called "Best Roms?" "Fastest most stable roms?" There are many about netflix alone. And It's basic knowledge, from reading, reading, and more reading, that ONLY FROYO ROMS HAVE HARDWARE DRIVERS THAT ENABLE ACCELERATION.
now, start reading...when you think you're done, read some more. When you're done, go to Slatedroid and read some more...and then some more...pretty soon, you'll be an expert!
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YEA, what he said...^
The deal breaker for me on the HC ROMS so far is that I can't seem to get then to work with any exchange email programs. Having access to my corporate outlook is critical for a daily use ROM. Anyone know how to beat that issue?
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broberts103 said:
The deal breaker for me on the HC ROMS so far is that I can't seem to get then to work with any exchange email programs. Having access to my corporate outlook is critical for a daily use ROM. Anyone know how to beat that issue?
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Simple, don't use a Honeycomb rom. They are in Alpha stage for a reason
18masterkyle said:
1. How is video acceleration on Honeycomb? I heard either Bos or Illuminate has video acceleration?
2. Best overclocking kernel for beginners. I'm looking for a quick and easy solution to install. Post the best tutorial(s)
3. Does netflix work? If so, post the best tutorial(s)
4. I have a Seagate Freeagent 1.5tb portable hard drive (USB 3.0). Will I be able to hook that up to the tablet and watch my movies/videos on it?
Thanks!
EDIT: I bought it from Tigerdirect.ca for $269 + taxes and it should be here on Monday
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1) Only SW acceleration which seems to work OK for up to 480p
2) My opinion Clemsyn for Froyo, Pershoot for Gingerbread
3) It works great with CM7 stable
4) Doubt it since I think Freeagent requires power from the USB port, but try it and let us know. It should not hurt anything.
I tried Vegan Tab 5.1.1, BoS, CM7.0.3, and a bunch of others that did not last long for various reasons. I have completely settled on CM7.0.3 Stable and have a very solid tablet which I have not had to repartition at all (with 5.1.1 I was always having to repartition after crashes). Tried CM7.1 release candidate and it gave me fits with a few things, so I am going to wait to the next RC before I move. I really, really like CM7 and it works with Netflix (need to get the netflix app from here). On CM7, I use MoboPlayer to play movies. It has a setting where you can disable HW acceleration and use SW acceleration. That has worked great for my movies although I do not encode HD, I stay at 480p and thereabouts.
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Simple, don't use a Honeycomb rom. They are in Alpha stage for a reason
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not really.....even HC 3.1 on xoom can't get exchange email to work......
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broberts103 said:
not really.....even HC 3.1 on xoom can't get exchange email to work......
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But my point still applies. Don't use Honeycomb and you won't have all of the problems inherent with Honeycomb.
You guys were pretty tough on Kyle. He is, after all, a Master.
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You guys were pretty tough on Kyle. He is, after all, a Master.
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Nah, we're not tough. I've been to tougher forums. At least he got answers to his questions.
BUT, that being said, Kyle is obviously not a master of finding answers for himself. Everytime I ask a question (and I do, trust me) is only after I've read just about every thread I can find that may help me. In other words...if I had a problem with an app not working, first I'd check the Themes and apps section, of THIS forum and Slatedroid. If no answer, then I'll check the thread that specifically deals with the rom I am on, and yes, I'll read every boring page of it. I may even check G-Tablet for Dummies to see if Goodintentions addresses it, or not. THEN, before asking the question ,I'll use this little invention called "Google." You see, "master"kyle, Google is what's called a search engine. If you type words into it, it will give you a list of web pages that might help you with the words you typed.
I have no problem with people that come here with a problem, and tell us that they tried, this, and that, from this thread, or that thread, or that web page, etc...but their problem persists. At least I know that they made the attempt to answer their own questions. But to come here and say that you purchased a device, haven't received it yet, then DEMAND answers to questions in which the answers only require a browsing of the forums (not even a full blown search, just scroll down!!!)
yeah, no patience for those people...they are the ones that really NEED an iPad.
TJ, I intended my post to be facetious. Sorry if that didn't come through. You were all pretty gentle with him - more waterguns than flamethrowers.
Thanks for all of the responses. I am new to this Gtablet forum and I find the information posted about the hardware acceleration is sketchy: BoS or Illuminate roms have said to use hardware acceleration without the proper drivers? Why do you think I asked you all of these questions? I have a freeagent drive and I'm not sure it will work yet since it will be arriving tomorrow. I need to know whether or not to buy a 32gb sd card for the gtablet for some movies. ALL I REALLY WANTED TO KNOW IS WHICH ROM TO STICK WITH ASKING THESE SPECIFIC QUESTIONS. If you cannot understand that, they don't give me some ass-comment "Well you should know and search". If you have a problem with my post, then GTFO. If you wish to help me, then please post a response. I do enjoy some of the posts on this thread. Thanks all
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Thanks for all of the responses. I am new to this Gtablet forum and I find the information posted about the hardware acceleration is sketchy: BoS or Illuminate roms have said to use hardware acceleration without the proper drivers? Why do you think I asked you all of these questions? I have a freeagent drive and I'm not sure it will work yet since it will be arriving tomorrow. I need to know whether or not to buy a 32gb sd card for the gtablet for some movies. ALL I REALLY WANTED TO KNOW IS WHICH ROM TO STICK WITH ASKING THESE SPECIFIC QUESTIONS. If you cannot understand that, they don't give me some ass-comment "Well you should know and search". If you have a problem with my post, then GTFO. If you wish to help me, then please post a response. I do enjoy some of the posts on this thread. Thanks all
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Try this Kyle maybe I got the wrong info but it was my understanding that you couldnt use a 32 gb sd card on a gtab. If I am wrong please someone correct me as I do make mistakes now and then.
Will a 32gb flash or micro sd work?
I know ICS is on the way but I am not particularly excited about it.
I was using honeycomb on my gtablet for a few months and was constantly frustrated by the laggyness and broken features. I am not ungrateful because I know the developers are working with what they have, which is next to nothing. But that doesn't stop it from being true that the honeycomb roms were not very stable.
I recently switched down to froyo, trying to get skype working so I could maybe give it to a friend for that purpose, and i was blown away by the stability and speed! It is amazing and I have actually used it to accomplish a few things in my daily life which I can't say I was able to do before. It really left an impression on me that just because an OS is old it doesn't mean it can't be better than the latest.
So now my concern is that ICS will be the same. Is there anything developers can really do to make ICS good without the source code/drivers? Or will it be another ROM that is just there to say you have the latest android on your device, no matter how many compromises there are with it.
I've got ICS on my droid incredible and on my galaxy nexus, and it would be cool to have it on all 3. But I have no problem keeping froyo on my tablet if it is simply better at accomplishing a task.
Haterade disclaimer
This post is not meant to bad mouth the developers or the community. In fact I am constantly amazed at what they are able to accomplish with so little. I don't mean to imply what they do is easy. I also don't think I could do any better. I wouldn't be able to do it in 10 years.
The gTablet actually has pretty decent specs. As a developer on ICS I can tell you that I can boot my tablet in 20 seconds and it operates great. Obviously there are still bug fixes but the build is progressing well. HD video and HW accel all work. Flashback or whatever HC build was laggy because the lack of proper drivers/kernel. We now have all of that for ICS. I'm guessing that by the time our build is done/tweaked it will be more stable and faster than froyo. Keep your head up and watch for the release sooner than later.
You have to take into account that the versions of Honeycomb on the gTablet were hacks of other device versions. It wasn't a true build for our devices, which is why some things wouldn't work. With FroYo, everything is working since all the pieces have been available.
What makes things look better with the ICS development (compared to Honeycomb) is that they are developing a kernel specifically for the gTablet. This, in itself, should make it a lot better than the pieced-together Honeycomb ports. Already they have hardware acceleration and HD video working, things that were only present in FroYo ROMs prior to this new kernel. Personally, I think the ICS build is looking stronger than any Gingerbread or Honeycomb version ported to the gTablet.
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fosser2 said:
The gTablet actually has pretty decent specs. As a developer on ICS I can tell you that I can boot my tablet in 20 seconds and it operates great. Obviously there are still bug fixes but the build is progressing well. HD video and HW accel all work. Flashback or whatever HC build was laggy because the lack of proper drivers/kernel. We now have all of that for ICS. I'm guessing that by the time our build is done/tweaked it will be more stable and faster than froyo. Keep your head up and watch for the release sooner than later.
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This is exactly the response I was hoping to hear.
I wasn't exactly sure if we would get HW accel and HD video with ICS. I knew we didn't have it on HC.
I'll stay optimistic though, thanks.
Apodidae said:
You have to take into account that the versions of Honeycomb on the gTablet were hacks of other device versions. It wasn't a true build for our devices, which is why some things wouldn't work. With FroYo, everything is working since all the pieces have been available.
What makes things look better with the ICS development (compared to Honeycomb) is that they are developing a kernel specifically for the gTablet. This, in itself, should make it a lot better than the pieced-together Honeycomb ports. Already they have hardware acceleration and HD video working, things that were only present in FroYo ROMs prior to this new kernel. Personally, I think the ICS build is looking stronger than any Gingerbread or Honeycomb version ported to the gTablet.
Sent from my gTablet using Tapatalk.
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Thanks for that. Now I am excited lol.
If we can get a 1.5ghz ICS build as fast as the Froyo ROMS and as stable then that is fantastic. That was exactly what I was unsure about... since Gingerbread and Honeycomb were not so strong, would the same be true with ICS? I guess the answer is no, ICS should be awesome for our tablet.
drizzt5 said:
This is exactly the response I was hoping to hear.
I wasn't exactly sure if we would get HW accel and HD video with ICS. I knew we didn't have it on HC.
I'll stay optimistic though, thanks.
Thanks for that. Now I am excited lol.
If we can get a 1.5ghz ICS build as fast as the Froyo ROMS and as stable then that is fantastic. That was exactly what I was unsure about... since Gingerbread and Honeycomb were not so strong, would the same be true with ICS? I guess the answer is no, ICS should be awesome for our tablet.
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Don't worry we have a great team working on it, and as fosser says when it is released everything will run fast with HW acceleration, there will be no reason to ever run froyo again, unless you like running retro stuff for fun
the3dman said:
Don't worry we have a great team working on it, and as fosser says when it is released everything will run fast with HW acceleration, there will be no reason to ever run froyo again, unless you like running retro stuff for fun
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Camera will likely be working right?
Nevermind, I saw the DRH rom and it says no camera atm. I hope that could be added soon.
Hello all! For my first post, I'd like to say THANK YOU tohat all the developers that have worked so hard to bring us all these great ROMs. I have currently rolled back to the stock ROM, and will likely suffer with froyo until this ICS ROM comes out. While I am looking forward to it, I also know that nothing happens in a vacuum. If you devs are willing, I would be eager to volunteer my time and experience (close to two decades of using and building Linux systems and troubleshooting kernel problems, as well as configuring and building kernels) towards this project as a start. If there is any interest, any of you can PM me from here. And again, thanks!
Oops! Got my threads switched. The above was for the ICS ROM thread. Sorry for the confusion.
drizzt5, the beta links are live over on SD if you wanna check the speed and stability of ICS.
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drizzt5, the beta links are live over on SD if you wanna check the speed and stability of ICS.
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I actually had it downloaded and installed last night and have been playing with it for most of today.
It is fast, but unless I flashed it incorrectly or something it doesn't appear to be nearly as stable as froyo.
Yes, it is in beta and has just been released so it would be foolish of me to expect it to instantly be as stable as the froyo roms. But this is just not there yet. Browser crashes often for me.
Like I said before.
I've got ICS on my droid incredible and on my galaxy nexus, and it would be cool to have it on all 3. But I have no problem keeping froyo on my tablet if it is simply better at accomplishing a task.
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I can see the hard work that has gone into this ROM, and I can see the benefits from working from the ground up for just this tablet. I love what you guys are doing. Keep up the good work and it might eventually get to that level.