Hello All,
I'm interested in installing a Honeycomb ROM but can't figure
out which ROM would be best for me, BoS 5.2 or Illuminate.
I would primarily use the following applications, in order of importance:
Yahoo Mail
GMail
Netflix
Facebook
Tune-In Radio
Player Pro (for my music library)
Pandora
Watching Movies
Reading USA Toady
Reading Other Magazine sources.
Thanks in advance for any insight you can provide.
Thanks,
Paul
Netflix doesn't work on any Honeycomb ROM, including official devices like the Motorola Xoom and Asus Transformer, etc...
So if that is a high priority on your above list, then you do not want a Honeycomb based ROM at this time.
Don't forget the mod called "Flashback" (over in Slatedroid - just google it). That's not mine, but the modder for it is working very hard on it right now.
This is the HC ROM that actually has PC mounting working, but sacrifices the gsensor to get it. So it's just another option for you.
None of the HC ROMs supports Netflix, btw. Some of the other apps I'm not 100% sure about.
pmuch12345 said:
Hello All,
I'm interested in installing a Honeycomb ROM but can't figure
out which ROM would be best for me, BoS 5.2 or Illuminate.
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Neither.
Honeycomb is not ready for public consumption. It's only recommended for testers and people who don't panic easily due to technical difficulties.
Of course, my words keep getting ignored and then we regularly keep getting newbies borking their gtabs while trying to use a honeycomb hack. One user even dared to come here and dissed BoS, complaining that he couldn't use his camera.
If you must, just wait a couple weeks for a real honeycomb port with HW acceleration (hint hint).
Very true - "alpha" means not complete / things are broken / expect weird issues. Some people do use it as their day-to-day, but that's with the understanding that there are some things that just don't work and they've accepted that.
Thanks for bottle of smoke roebeet, I'm loving it. Most of what I use it for works great and it seems to run much more smoothly than Vegan Ginger did for me. The only issue that is at all bothersome to me atm is A2DP bluetooth. Is there HC ROM that has it working?
Thanks again.
Pexcer said:
Thanks for bottle of smoke roebeet, I'm loving it. Most of what I use it for works great and it seems to run much more smoothly than Vegan Ginger did for me. The only issue that is at all bothersome to me atm is A2DP bluetooth. Is there HC ROM that has it working?
Thanks again.
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Honestly not sure - the drivers in BoS (and probably the rest of these HC ROMs) are based on the 3.0.1 stuff from ASUS, so my guess is that if it works in one, it should work on the other (or not, in the reverse).
Neither, wait for any or all of them to get out of Alpha stage. And even then I would wait until they stabilize because i wouldn't want to risk bricking my tablet.
What is it about Honey Comb you want? If you want a honeycomb look, you should consider different launchers and Widgets. The gtab for dummies site has further info, there's a link in goodintensions' signature.
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so im sorry for bringing this up (i read the sticky) but i am not sure what the latest update means about honeycomb video drivers from nvidia. does that mean that there are no video drivers that are going to be released for the gtab from now on? does that mean its impossible to port honeycomb to the gtab? i dont know how to interpret their response and that is going to help me decide what to do with it (since i just got it). thanks!
From what I can read into it, nVidia has stated that they will continue dev and support for the gtab for as long as Viewsonic requests them to do so. And Viewsonic has stated that they are going to continue dev and support. So, in short, yes. We will most likely see Honeycomb at some point in the future. We just don't know when.
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so their message wasnt saying "f u gtab, u get nothing" ? its only for as long as viewsonic continues to support it?
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so their message wasnt saying "f u gtab, u get nothing" ? its only for as long as viewsonic continues to support it?
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Yes, up until they decide the Gtab is old news and they determine that it would not be cost efficient to do so. After all of those tablets sold on woot (over 10,000) I can't imagine that would be any time soon.
Myself, I could care less if Honeycomb makes it to the Gtab. It would be nice, but CM7 is serving me very well for anything I need to do with it. There is a bit of choppiness in videos using the YouTube app, but if viewed via the web browser (I use Skyfire) they are as smooth as can be over wifi or with a good 3g signal. Native video drivers for even Gingerbread would be very helpful and I feel that we will see them long before anything of the Honeycomb flavor.
I wouldn't dump my Gtab just yet, there's way too many ways to have fun with it considering all of the dev work that's still being done by GoJimi, Calkulin, rothnic, roebeet, clemsyn, pershoot and many others.
MOD Alert! - You may want to move this thread to G-tab General or Q&A since this is not Developmental.
okay. so what exactly did nvidia mean? and if they stop supporting the gtab, what does that mean for the gtab? and video acceleration - is that just video watching, or does that mean 3d acceleration for video games as well?
I can't point you to the exact news release but Nvidia did officially say last week what hitekredneck said about continuing to support the Ginger chip. They indicated that the previous statement about not continuing to support the Ginger was in error by an unofficial spokesman (I think I am remembering this correctly).
I kinda agree with hitekredneck about Gingerbread on the Gtablet. I bet we see those hardware video drivers released by Nvidia for Gingerbread soon making GB a complete ROM.
what exactly do these video drivers do?
I just purchased a Viewsonic G Tablet from Amazon for $299...I have heard great things about it and have done some research. I was going to get a used ipad 1st gen for about the same price but I really want to root & do a lot of customizing more than what the ipad allows...
I have read the articles on rooting/flashing ROMS for it. I already have a OG Droid rooted running UD3.1.1 and loving every minute of it! I want to do something similar with the gTab.
I have looked into ROMS to flash onto the gTab & it seems two stand out the most: CM7 and VEGAn....I am somewhat familiar with CM7 since when I was looking for ROMs for my Droid it was one of the more popular ones. VEGAn I don't know much about but it seems the reviews are mostly high praise for speed & battery life...I would like options like on UD (overclocking, etc)
For anyone who has a G Tablet what ROMs are you using & why? Any others I should look into (I know about TnT Lite but it is retired so I prefer not to use that one. I am waiting for Honeycomb to become more stable before trying it...that is the main one I want to strive for!
Any other tips I should know about the G Tablet?
Thank You!
CM7 is a great (stable) 2.3.3 build for the GTab. It does offer some nice OC options (thanks to pershoot's kernels) as well as all of the customization you'd expect from a CM rom.
I ran Vegan Ginger for a while and IT IS FAST!!! I'm not entirely sure why I switched to CM7, but I've considered going back from time to time.
I was running the Calkulin+Clemsyn Froyo combo for a while (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1024120) and that ran very well for me also. It is a more stock looking ROM, with fewer standard Android options. That's not necessarily a bad thing, but as Android develops, 2.2 just isn't as exciting as it once was. That ROM also benefits from full hardware graphic acceleration; a feat that is still a work-in-progress for GB builds.
Overall, I like CM7. It's not quite as zippy as Vegan Ginger, and not as stable as the Froyo build.
My 2 cents.
EDIT: I remember now. I went to CM7 because it supports the Netflix app.
If your goal is to get to HC, when it's bugs are worked out, then it would benefit you to go with a 1.2 bootloader Rom. Brilliant Corners is the Vegan 5.1.1 ported to bootloader 1.2. Once you're ready for HC, you won't need to back out to stock in order to flash it...
It's not difficult to back out to stock, but why make more work for yourself if you don't need to.
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If your goal is to get to HC, when it's bugs are worked out, then it would benefit you to go with a 1.2 bootloader Rom. Brilliant Corners is the Vegan 5.1.1 ported to bootloader 1.2. Once you're ready for HC, you won't need to back out to stock in order to flash it...
It's not difficult to back out to stock, but why make more work for yourself if you don't need to.
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I heard of Vegan but not Brilliant Corners? Would you happen to have a link? I am all for making things easier so if it's a good ROM I will be more than willing to give it a go. Yes HC is my main wish for this tablet...why have a tab without honeycomb?
chef_w said:
CM7 is a great (stable) 2.3.3 build for the GTab. It does offer some nice OC options (thanks to pershoot's kernels) as well as all of the customization you'd expect from a CM rom.
I ran Vegan Ginger for a while and IT IS FAST!!! I'm not entirely sure why I switched to CM7, but I've considered going back from time to time.
I was running the Calkulin+Clemsyn Froyo combo for a while (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1024120) and that ran very well for me also. It is a more stock looking ROM, with fewer standard Android options. That's not necessarily a bad thing, but as Android develops, 2.2 just isn't as exciting as it once was. That ROM also benefits from full hardware graphic acceleration; a feat that is still a work-in-progress for GB builds.
Overall, I like CM7. It's not quite as zippy as Vegan Ginger, and not as stable as the Froyo build.
My 2 cents.
EDIT: I remember now. I went to CM7 because it supports the Netflix app.
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+1 on this - I was about to type out the same thing basically... very happy with CM7. Haven't tried the nightlies yet, but I may soon.
mikespe said:
I heard of Vegan but not Brilliant Corners? Would you happen to have a link? I am all for making things easier so if it's a good ROM I will be more than willing to give it a go. Yes HC is my main wish for this tablet...why have a tab without honeycomb?
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We're not allowed to post links ot other forums, but googling "Brilliant Corners G-Tablet" should get you where you need to be. it was a project of Roebeet, the developer of TNT lite, and a corroberator on Vegan 5.1.1. Basically, he took all of the older 1.1 roms that he worked on and ported them to the 1.2 dev branch, suspecting that 1.2 was going to be the future of development. Once you've found the forum that his rom's are now on, you can read up on some other posts to get other options for the 1.2 branch. Clemysn and Pershoot have been assisting in kernel development and tweaking. On 1.2, there are many more options of Roms to run, from Adam roms, Zpad, etc, since they use similar bootloaders.
I rooted my g with the Vegan 7 - VERY stable and easy to work with. The instuctions are on this site with the downloads
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We're not allowed to post links ot other forums, but googling "Brilliant Corners G-Tablet" should get you where you need to be. it was a project of Roebeet, the developer of TNT lite, and a corroberator on Vegan 5.1.1. Basically, he took all of the older 1.1 roms that he worked on and ported them to the 1.2 dev branch, suspecting that 1.2 was going to be the future of development. Once you've found the forum that his rom's are now on, you can read up on some other posts to get other options for the 1.2 branch. Clemysn and Pershoot have been assisting in kernel development and tweaking. On 1.2, there are many more options of Roms to run, from Adam roms, Zpad, etc, since they use similar bootloaders.
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Oh I'm sorry for asking for a link...I'm on so many forums and each one has different rules...actually after i asked for the link I did do a google search & found the site...the only thing is their rule of 3 posts before being allowed to download or post a new thread! I really don't know what to post yet since this part of android is new to me & I haven't explored enough to ask/comment on questions...LOL.
I have read that the Honeycomb ROM is VERY close to being upgraded to Beta which is awesome! I may just go right to HC...The 2 things I read that are "issues' are the G-sensor and accessing specific emails in Gmail. But it is supposed to be VERY quick & awesome....except for booting...I heard that was kind of slow...
We'll see. My gTab was shipped yesterday from Chicago & is coming to Western NY via Priority Mail so I am hoping before the weekend...
Thanks again for the help everyone!
It's only natural to ask for links, don't apologize. What's unnatural is not being allowed to help people by posting one
I'm not even sure I posted 3 times before using that site...if anything, just find a post and make a general comment, or ask a question. I'm over there 2, as are most people that either currently are, or were regular mambers of this site. they'll understand if you want to get your post count up so that you'll have access to the files.
As far as Honeycomb, there is suspicion that some of the issues are due to lack of OpenGL drivers from Nvidea. supposedly they can be correced in kernel development, but hte kernel base is different than anything else we are using right now. Clemysn even said it was difficult and gave him headaches.
for instance, the mail issue...it's been reported that there is a way to get the messages to show, but that you can't "see" where to touch to access it. the lack of OpenGL shading is not letting the graphics display properly. It's my hope, that once OpenGL is taken care of, that this will be a 100% working, stable release of HC for us. There isn't one Rom out yet for the g-tablet that has working, official hardware acceration support from Nvidea. HC would be the first, if anyone can get it working.
to use an analogy, what we have are 12 cylinder supercars, but the manufacture only provided a way to get spark to 4 of them.. some developers have figured out how to expand that to 8, but we're still not realizing the true potential of this engine. It may go as fast as it should, with tweaks, but it sometimes doesn't sound, or look very pretty doing it.
Go ahead up to HoneyComb Alpha3.0.1 by Roebeet and dev teams!
If you don't mind to have some bumps during the dev, flash to HoneyComb BoS Alpha3.0.1... sweetest thing...now I feel Gtablet worth for every penny I spent!
Search for that because I know this forum doesn't allow to post the full URL of other forums!
1. How is video acceleration on Honeycomb? I heard either Bos or Illuminate has video acceleration?
2. Best overclocking kernel for beginners. I'm looking for a quick and easy solution to install. Post the best tutorial(s)
3. Does netflix work? If so, post the best tutorial(s)
4. I have a Seagate Freeagent 1.5tb portable hard drive (USB 3.0). Will I be able to hook that up to the tablet and watch my movies/videos on it?
Thanks!
EDIT: I bought it from Tigerdirect.ca for $269 + taxes and it should be here on Monday
*Sigh*
The current honeycomb roms are not recommended for beginners. Right now, only froyo has full hardware acceleration. Nothing else have hardware acceleration. I suggest you start out with froyo first before you take it further.
All honeycomb roms are in their alpha stages and therefore only recommended for testers and experienced users. I swear, if I see another beginner whining about the lack of full functionality on the honeycomb roms...
I'm not complaining. Just inquiring
goodintentions I'm going to borrow your line,
I highly recommend an iPad.
Read, Read, Read!!!!!!
Do your homework before you write the final exam Seriously, I've done more reading on here than I've done modding on my Gtab. There are plenty of sources of good info on here. Don't rush into action before you read the experiences and recommendations of others.
Start with the stock 3588.
Use it for a few days.
Then try Vegan-Tab for a few days.
Then try Vegan Gingerbread RC1
You can also try CM7
If you're happy, dont change.
If you have learned all the nuances, and want to experiment, learn NVFlash and go nuts...
But what about playing videos from the external hard drive mentioned?
To give you an idea of the mentality recently on this site, I'l edit your post title...
"Just bought a G-Tablet, DON'T WANT TO LOOK FOR MY OWN ANSWERS"
Just today, I read a post that spoke ot external harddrives. I haven't personally tried it yet, but someone mentioned that as long as the hard drive works under it's own power (not a flash drive) that it should work. But here's an idea for you, plug it in and try it...see for yourself if it works or not.
to your other questions:
1. How is video acceleration on Honeycomb? I heard either Bos or Illuminate has video acceleration?
On Froyo roms it works fine, Gingerbread roms have a pieced together form of it by overclocking, but there are no Nvidea drivers for Gingerbread. Likewise, there are also no drivers for Honeycomb.
2. Best overclocking kernel for beginners. I'm looking for a quick and easy solution to install. Post the best tutorial(s)
Look for your own tutorials, man. I've been using Calkulin/Clemsyn combo for about a week and love it. (Clemsyn part is the kernel) Really, you'll only find 2 different kernels that are popular. Clemsyn and Pershoot. Both are great
3. Does netflix work? If so, post the best tutorial(s)
Netflix only works 100% on CM7, but tweaking is necessary. Right now, I suggest that you forget about netflix and use the tablet for apps that actually work on it.
to be honest, all of your questions can be answered simply by browsing these forums. Hell, just looking for 10 minutes I can find a post called "Best Roms?" "Fastest most stable roms?" There are many about netflix alone. And It's basic knowledge, from reading, reading, and more reading, that ONLY FROYO ROMS HAVE HARDWARE DRIVERS THAT ENABLE ACCELERATION.
now, start reading...when you think you're done, read some more. When you're done, go to Slatedroid and read some more...and then some more...pretty soon, you'll be an expert!
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To give you an idea of the mentality recently on this site, I'l edit your post title...
"Just bought a G-Tablet, DON'T WANT TO LOOK FOR MY OWN ANSWERS"
Just today, I read a post that spoke ot external harddrives. I haven't personally tried it yet, but someone mentioned that as long as the hard drive works under it's own power (not a flash drive) that it should work. But here's an idea for you, plug it in and try it...see for yourself if it works or not.
to your other questions:
1. How is video acceleration on Honeycomb? I heard either Bos or Illuminate has video acceleration?
On Froyo roms it works fine, Gingerbread roms have a pieced together form of it by overclocking, but there are no Nvidea drivers for Gingerbread. Likewise, there are also no drivers for Honeycomb.
2. Best overclocking kernel for beginners. I'm looking for a quick and easy solution to install. Post the best tutorial(s)
Look for your own tutorials, man. I've been using Calkulin/Clemsyn combo for about a week and love it. (Clemsyn part is the kernel) Really, you'll only find 2 different kernels that are popular. Clemsyn and Pershoot. Both are great
3. Does netflix work? If so, post the best tutorial(s)
Netflix only works 100% on CM7, but tweaking is necessary. Right now, I suggest that you forget about netflix and use the tablet for apps that actually work on it.
to be honest, all of your questions can be answered simply by browsing these forums. Hell, just looking for 10 minutes I can find a post called "Best Roms?" "Fastest most stable roms?" There are many about netflix alone. And It's basic knowledge, from reading, reading, and more reading, that ONLY FROYO ROMS HAVE HARDWARE DRIVERS THAT ENABLE ACCELERATION.
now, start reading...when you think you're done, read some more. When you're done, go to Slatedroid and read some more...and then some more...pretty soon, you'll be an expert!
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YEA, what he said...^
The deal breaker for me on the HC ROMS so far is that I can't seem to get then to work with any exchange email programs. Having access to my corporate outlook is critical for a daily use ROM. Anyone know how to beat that issue?
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broberts103 said:
The deal breaker for me on the HC ROMS so far is that I can't seem to get then to work with any exchange email programs. Having access to my corporate outlook is critical for a daily use ROM. Anyone know how to beat that issue?
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Simple, don't use a Honeycomb rom. They are in Alpha stage for a reason
18masterkyle said:
1. How is video acceleration on Honeycomb? I heard either Bos or Illuminate has video acceleration?
2. Best overclocking kernel for beginners. I'm looking for a quick and easy solution to install. Post the best tutorial(s)
3. Does netflix work? If so, post the best tutorial(s)
4. I have a Seagate Freeagent 1.5tb portable hard drive (USB 3.0). Will I be able to hook that up to the tablet and watch my movies/videos on it?
Thanks!
EDIT: I bought it from Tigerdirect.ca for $269 + taxes and it should be here on Monday
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1) Only SW acceleration which seems to work OK for up to 480p
2) My opinion Clemsyn for Froyo, Pershoot for Gingerbread
3) It works great with CM7 stable
4) Doubt it since I think Freeagent requires power from the USB port, but try it and let us know. It should not hurt anything.
I tried Vegan Tab 5.1.1, BoS, CM7.0.3, and a bunch of others that did not last long for various reasons. I have completely settled on CM7.0.3 Stable and have a very solid tablet which I have not had to repartition at all (with 5.1.1 I was always having to repartition after crashes). Tried CM7.1 release candidate and it gave me fits with a few things, so I am going to wait to the next RC before I move. I really, really like CM7 and it works with Netflix (need to get the netflix app from here). On CM7, I use MoboPlayer to play movies. It has a setting where you can disable HW acceleration and use SW acceleration. That has worked great for my movies although I do not encode HD, I stay at 480p and thereabouts.
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Simple, don't use a Honeycomb rom. They are in Alpha stage for a reason
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not really.....even HC 3.1 on xoom can't get exchange email to work......
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not really.....even HC 3.1 on xoom can't get exchange email to work......
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But my point still applies. Don't use Honeycomb and you won't have all of the problems inherent with Honeycomb.
You guys were pretty tough on Kyle. He is, after all, a Master.
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You guys were pretty tough on Kyle. He is, after all, a Master.
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Nah, we're not tough. I've been to tougher forums. At least he got answers to his questions.
BUT, that being said, Kyle is obviously not a master of finding answers for himself. Everytime I ask a question (and I do, trust me) is only after I've read just about every thread I can find that may help me. In other words...if I had a problem with an app not working, first I'd check the Themes and apps section, of THIS forum and Slatedroid. If no answer, then I'll check the thread that specifically deals with the rom I am on, and yes, I'll read every boring page of it. I may even check G-Tablet for Dummies to see if Goodintentions addresses it, or not. THEN, before asking the question ,I'll use this little invention called "Google." You see, "master"kyle, Google is what's called a search engine. If you type words into it, it will give you a list of web pages that might help you with the words you typed.
I have no problem with people that come here with a problem, and tell us that they tried, this, and that, from this thread, or that thread, or that web page, etc...but their problem persists. At least I know that they made the attempt to answer their own questions. But to come here and say that you purchased a device, haven't received it yet, then DEMAND answers to questions in which the answers only require a browsing of the forums (not even a full blown search, just scroll down!!!)
yeah, no patience for those people...they are the ones that really NEED an iPad.
TJ, I intended my post to be facetious. Sorry if that didn't come through. You were all pretty gentle with him - more waterguns than flamethrowers.
Thanks for all of the responses. I am new to this Gtablet forum and I find the information posted about the hardware acceleration is sketchy: BoS or Illuminate roms have said to use hardware acceleration without the proper drivers? Why do you think I asked you all of these questions? I have a freeagent drive and I'm not sure it will work yet since it will be arriving tomorrow. I need to know whether or not to buy a 32gb sd card for the gtablet for some movies. ALL I REALLY WANTED TO KNOW IS WHICH ROM TO STICK WITH ASKING THESE SPECIFIC QUESTIONS. If you cannot understand that, they don't give me some ass-comment "Well you should know and search". If you have a problem with my post, then GTFO. If you wish to help me, then please post a response. I do enjoy some of the posts on this thread. Thanks all
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Thanks for all of the responses. I am new to this Gtablet forum and I find the information posted about the hardware acceleration is sketchy: BoS or Illuminate roms have said to use hardware acceleration without the proper drivers? Why do you think I asked you all of these questions? I have a freeagent drive and I'm not sure it will work yet since it will be arriving tomorrow. I need to know whether or not to buy a 32gb sd card for the gtablet for some movies. ALL I REALLY WANTED TO KNOW IS WHICH ROM TO STICK WITH ASKING THESE SPECIFIC QUESTIONS. If you cannot understand that, they don't give me some ass-comment "Well you should know and search". If you have a problem with my post, then GTFO. If you wish to help me, then please post a response. I do enjoy some of the posts on this thread. Thanks all
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Try this Kyle maybe I got the wrong info but it was my understanding that you couldnt use a 32 gb sd card on a gtab. If I am wrong please someone correct me as I do make mistakes now and then.
Will a 32gb flash or micro sd work?
Hi- We are hosting a large event in Santa Clara, ARM TechCon and all our conference attendees are receiving a free ViewSonic gTablet. We want to pre load it with cool FREE apps. Any apps useful to engineers you know of? What else would you recommend loading onto the tablet? Also, we are looking for technical support onsite for someone to assist and troubleshoot? Anyone have any recommendations on a freelance IT person?
are you giving them away with the stock firmware on them...
if so, then you'll need a TEAM of onsight tech support personel to troubleshoot.
If not, then I suggest that you load a Froyo rom, since they are the only 100% functional Android version for the Gtablet.
I would suggest Brilliant Corners, or Calkulin/Clemsyn as the custom rom, with a nifty donation provided to the developer who's rom you choose.
Without a custom rom, they won't have access to the google app market. I'm afraid that if you don't provide a custom rom on it, then your attendees might think that you were joking when you provided them with a Gtablet.
All assume stock rom:
Amazon appstore. This is must since the stock store is stupid.
AUTOCAD WS
Sketchbook mobile (express) although Sketchbook Pro is light years better, unfortunately it's only available for Honeycomb
DropBox
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Hi- We are hosting a large event in Santa Clara, ARM TechCon and all our conference attendees are receiving a free ViewSonic gTablet.
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That's gonna leave a bad taste
Can I go to the conference? I would like a free GTab. You better put Angry Birds on it. What kind of engineering work? Hardware, software? I second a custom ROM, Flashback Honeycomb, VeganTab 5.1.1, or the Calk/Clem Froyo ROM which I heard is very fast and stable.
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Can I go to the conference? I would like a free GTab. You better put Angry Birds on it. What kind of engineering work? Hardware, software? I second a custom ROM, Flashback Honeycomb, VeganTab 5.1.1, or the Calk/Clem Froyo ROM which I heard is very fast and stable.
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Stock does come with angry birds, already
I didn't suggest a GB or HC rom because there are still aspects that are NOT working.
One app that I think is invaluable is Quickoffice, or Documents To Go.
If you go the stock ROM route, I would suggest considering this new build 5274 UAT (not released yet from the vendor, but it feels pretty solid to me). Build 3588 is ancient and build 4349, which a lot of newer devices do have, have some problems with battery life, sleep, and high-def video playback. 5274 also has the newer recovery image, which is pretty critical on this device as users will need to wipe data, eventually.
If your baseline is problematic, it won't matter what apps you put on it as the device will just feel slow and unstable.
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are you giving them away with the stock firmware on them...
if so, then you'll need a TEAM of onsight tech support personel to troubleshoot.
If not, then I suggest that you load a Froyo rom, since they are the only 100% functional Android version for the Gtablet.
I would suggest Brilliant Corners, or Calkulin/Clemsyn as the custom rom, with a nifty donation provided to the developer who's rom you choose.
Without a custom rom, they won't have access to the google app market. I'm afraid that if you don't provide a custom rom on it, then your attendees might think that you were joking when you provided them with a Gtablet.
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Seconded.
AnyhowIf you can still choose, I prolly suggest you to give away HP touchpad instead of gTAB
fury7 said:
Seconded.
AnyhowIf you can still choose, I prolly suggest you to give away HP touchpad instead of gTAB
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Maybe not a bad idea, Touchpads have been getting a lot of press lately. $270 on Amazon right now for 32GB.
I know ICS is on the way but I am not particularly excited about it.
I was using honeycomb on my gtablet for a few months and was constantly frustrated by the laggyness and broken features. I am not ungrateful because I know the developers are working with what they have, which is next to nothing. But that doesn't stop it from being true that the honeycomb roms were not very stable.
I recently switched down to froyo, trying to get skype working so I could maybe give it to a friend for that purpose, and i was blown away by the stability and speed! It is amazing and I have actually used it to accomplish a few things in my daily life which I can't say I was able to do before. It really left an impression on me that just because an OS is old it doesn't mean it can't be better than the latest.
So now my concern is that ICS will be the same. Is there anything developers can really do to make ICS good without the source code/drivers? Or will it be another ROM that is just there to say you have the latest android on your device, no matter how many compromises there are with it.
I've got ICS on my droid incredible and on my galaxy nexus, and it would be cool to have it on all 3. But I have no problem keeping froyo on my tablet if it is simply better at accomplishing a task.
Haterade disclaimer
This post is not meant to bad mouth the developers or the community. In fact I am constantly amazed at what they are able to accomplish with so little. I don't mean to imply what they do is easy. I also don't think I could do any better. I wouldn't be able to do it in 10 years.
The gTablet actually has pretty decent specs. As a developer on ICS I can tell you that I can boot my tablet in 20 seconds and it operates great. Obviously there are still bug fixes but the build is progressing well. HD video and HW accel all work. Flashback or whatever HC build was laggy because the lack of proper drivers/kernel. We now have all of that for ICS. I'm guessing that by the time our build is done/tweaked it will be more stable and faster than froyo. Keep your head up and watch for the release sooner than later.
You have to take into account that the versions of Honeycomb on the gTablet were hacks of other device versions. It wasn't a true build for our devices, which is why some things wouldn't work. With FroYo, everything is working since all the pieces have been available.
What makes things look better with the ICS development (compared to Honeycomb) is that they are developing a kernel specifically for the gTablet. This, in itself, should make it a lot better than the pieced-together Honeycomb ports. Already they have hardware acceleration and HD video working, things that were only present in FroYo ROMs prior to this new kernel. Personally, I think the ICS build is looking stronger than any Gingerbread or Honeycomb version ported to the gTablet.
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fosser2 said:
The gTablet actually has pretty decent specs. As a developer on ICS I can tell you that I can boot my tablet in 20 seconds and it operates great. Obviously there are still bug fixes but the build is progressing well. HD video and HW accel all work. Flashback or whatever HC build was laggy because the lack of proper drivers/kernel. We now have all of that for ICS. I'm guessing that by the time our build is done/tweaked it will be more stable and faster than froyo. Keep your head up and watch for the release sooner than later.
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This is exactly the response I was hoping to hear.
I wasn't exactly sure if we would get HW accel and HD video with ICS. I knew we didn't have it on HC.
I'll stay optimistic though, thanks.
Apodidae said:
You have to take into account that the versions of Honeycomb on the gTablet were hacks of other device versions. It wasn't a true build for our devices, which is why some things wouldn't work. With FroYo, everything is working since all the pieces have been available.
What makes things look better with the ICS development (compared to Honeycomb) is that they are developing a kernel specifically for the gTablet. This, in itself, should make it a lot better than the pieced-together Honeycomb ports. Already they have hardware acceleration and HD video working, things that were only present in FroYo ROMs prior to this new kernel. Personally, I think the ICS build is looking stronger than any Gingerbread or Honeycomb version ported to the gTablet.
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Thanks for that. Now I am excited lol.
If we can get a 1.5ghz ICS build as fast as the Froyo ROMS and as stable then that is fantastic. That was exactly what I was unsure about... since Gingerbread and Honeycomb were not so strong, would the same be true with ICS? I guess the answer is no, ICS should be awesome for our tablet.
drizzt5 said:
This is exactly the response I was hoping to hear.
I wasn't exactly sure if we would get HW accel and HD video with ICS. I knew we didn't have it on HC.
I'll stay optimistic though, thanks.
Thanks for that. Now I am excited lol.
If we can get a 1.5ghz ICS build as fast as the Froyo ROMS and as stable then that is fantastic. That was exactly what I was unsure about... since Gingerbread and Honeycomb were not so strong, would the same be true with ICS? I guess the answer is no, ICS should be awesome for our tablet.
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Don't worry we have a great team working on it, and as fosser says when it is released everything will run fast with HW acceleration, there will be no reason to ever run froyo again, unless you like running retro stuff for fun
the3dman said:
Don't worry we have a great team working on it, and as fosser says when it is released everything will run fast with HW acceleration, there will be no reason to ever run froyo again, unless you like running retro stuff for fun
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Camera will likely be working right?
Nevermind, I saw the DRH rom and it says no camera atm. I hope that could be added soon.
Hello all! For my first post, I'd like to say THANK YOU tohat all the developers that have worked so hard to bring us all these great ROMs. I have currently rolled back to the stock ROM, and will likely suffer with froyo until this ICS ROM comes out. While I am looking forward to it, I also know that nothing happens in a vacuum. If you devs are willing, I would be eager to volunteer my time and experience (close to two decades of using and building Linux systems and troubleshooting kernel problems, as well as configuring and building kernels) towards this project as a start. If there is any interest, any of you can PM me from here. And again, thanks!
Oops! Got my threads switched. The above was for the ICS ROM thread. Sorry for the confusion.
drizzt5, the beta links are live over on SD if you wanna check the speed and stability of ICS.
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drizzt5, the beta links are live over on SD if you wanna check the speed and stability of ICS.
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I actually had it downloaded and installed last night and have been playing with it for most of today.
It is fast, but unless I flashed it incorrectly or something it doesn't appear to be nearly as stable as froyo.
Yes, it is in beta and has just been released so it would be foolish of me to expect it to instantly be as stable as the froyo roms. But this is just not there yet. Browser crashes often for me.
Like I said before.
I've got ICS on my droid incredible and on my galaxy nexus, and it would be cool to have it on all 3. But I have no problem keeping froyo on my tablet if it is simply better at accomplishing a task.
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I can see the hard work that has gone into this ROM, and I can see the benefits from working from the ground up for just this tablet. I love what you guys are doing. Keep up the good work and it might eventually get to that level.