Does this beast come with oleophobic coating, or is it just the bare screen?
JD
According to Eldar it does have an oleophobic coating
Fantastic, i will not buy a phone without it
JD
JupiterDroid said:
Fantastic, i will not buy a phone without it
JD
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You can always get an anti-glare matte screen protector. I yave one on all my devices, my G2, my Xoom, my EVO. That is the first accessory that I buy.
Of course, I'm assuming you're exaggerating about ditching the phone entirely for that one property, lol.
open1your1eyes0 said:
You can always get an anti-glare matte screen protector. I yave one on all my devices, my G2, my Xoom, my EVO. That is the first accessory that I buy.
Of course, I'm assuming you're exaggerating about ditching the phone entirely for that one property, lol.
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Nope,
Its a big thing when in direct sunlight, oleophobic coating is a must for me, especially coming from the NS, had enough of fingerprint covered screens, the nexus s was a joy
JD
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Nope,
Its a big thing when in direct sunlight, oleophobic coating is a must for me, especially coming from the NS, had enough of fingerprint covered screens, the nexus s was a joy
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Lol wow. Considering the specs of this phone I'd be willing to deal with it being a mirror if I have to just to use it. I mean you're not talking about just any Android phone here.
Performance+Features > Glareless display
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Lol wow. Considering the specs of this phone I'd be willing to deal with it being a mirror if I have to just to use it. I mean you're not talking about just any Android phone here.
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Performance + feaures = screen
if you cant see it in the outside what would you do with features.
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Performance + feaures = screen
if you cant see it in the outside what would you do with features.
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That's why there's voice control.
open1your1eyes0 said:
Lol wow. Considering the specs of this phone I'd be willing to deal with it being a mirror if I have to just to use it. I mean you're not talking about just any Android phone here.
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Glare is there on Nexus S (not extremely bad though ) even with Oleophobic coating.
Thats not the advantage of the coating though, and glare is not a big deal if display is bright enough.(read AMOLED) You can always tilt it a bit away from light to get the read from the screen.
Problem is smudges. Those oily messy smudges makes it harder to see even if you tilt it away or in the shadow of your hands in bridght sunlight as light refracts and reflects in all directions thanks to smudges.
With coating and reduced smudges, its easier to see. But it does come at a cost.
The Gorilla glass might be scratch resistant, but if there is this coating on that top of it, it will develop micro scratches as this coating gets scraped off if you nick your screen with something sharp. Plain Gorilla glass would fare better in such cases. So its win some, loose some situation. I doubt there will be any coating on the Gorilla glass. If its there, I would be very surprised as it takes away the advantage of Gorilla Glass.
I can honestly say that the standard for smartphone displays is decent enough that I definitly have a couple of priorities above the display that I wouldn't care how good the display is, if doesn't meet those priorities first, I don't want it. Key being carrier, cpu, ram, battery life, size/weight, brand/UI, then the display itself. Like I said, the standard for smartphones is good enough that it's not as important for me as long as a matte screen protector exists for the device (which is pretty much every smartphone). I have yet to meet a modern device display that I cannot tolerate under all conditions. And maybe its just me but I rarely find myself walking under direct sunlight. And even when I do, I try to avoid it (not because of my phone, just I have no joy in it XD).
Just my 2¢
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Glare is there on Nexus S (not extremely bad though ) even with Oleophobic coating.
Thats not the advantage of the coating though, and glare is not a big deal if display is bright enough.(read AMOLED) You can always tilt it a bit away from light to get the read from the screen.
Problem is smudges. Those oily messy smudges makes it harder to see even if you tilt it away or in the shadow of your hands in bridght sunlight as light refracts and reflects in all directions thanks to smudges.
With coating and reduced smudges, its easier to see. But it does come at a cost.
The Gorilla glass might be scratch resistant, but if there is this coating on that top of it, it will develop micro scratches as this coating gets scraped off if you nick your screen with something sharp. Plain Gorilla glass would fare better in such cases. So its win some, loose some situation. I doubt there will be any coating on the Gorilla glass. If its there, I would be very surprised as it takes away the advantage of Gorilla Glass.
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I agree, I think no matter what, I will be putting a screen protector on it. A company called "ScratchGuard" makes one that resists Oil and Fingerprints, maybe that might be the route, although it does reduce some of the screen's clarity.
Why would you ruin your phone with a screen protector?
My Captivate has had no screen protector for almost a year and it's still blemish-free.
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Ive allways used a screen protector tbh but im thinking with this device i dont need 1 as its gorilla glass right? i do think screen protectors ruin a phone slightly but its protection, Does this device need a protector or will it be fine without 1?
looking to buy the device on launch day sim-free so would be ideal to buy a protector before if i do need 1,
coming from iphone 4 i allways had to use 1 and it did get annoying and before that the desire hd which i had to use also but that screen isnt made of gorilla glass is it?
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Why would you ruin your phone with a screen protector?
My Captivate has had no screen protector for almost a year and it's still blemish-free.
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I have to. Cant take chances, I took one with Nexus S thanks to Oleophobic coating and kinda regretting it. I use lots of jeans. Many of them have those metal buttons / studs near pocket. I scratched my Nexus S a bit while taking it out of pocket when it scratched against that. Thankfully it was a micro scratch at the bottom and not on viewable area. Not to mention the bloody earrings of my lady friends and family members. My heart skips a beat when unprotected screen nears their ears
I wont take that chance again
But isn't gorilla glass supposed to be super tough?
So we will need a screen protector?
Uhm, and how can a screen protector ruin a phone?
Even if the phone features a gorilla glass, it doesn't guarantee it from being scratch-proof.
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But isn't gorilla glass supposed to be super tough?
So we will need a screen protector?
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A screen protector will totally negate the oleophobic coating so i would not advise that, also the chemicals used to stick a screen protector on it might create holes in the oleophobic coating which will mean you will need a screen protector for life (we saw this many times in the nexus s section)
My advice is,
1. DO NOT use any screen protector at all!
2. buy a protective sock to put your phone into
3. ALWAYS leave it in a pocket that has nothing else but the phone in, inside its protective sock
4. NEVER clean the phone with any sort of polish or chemicals, always just clean it with a dry cloth
If you do these three things you will have a wonderful "as new" phone for the duration of your time with the SGSII )
JD
JupiterDroid said:
A screen protector will totally negate the oleophobic coating so i would not advise that, also the chemicals used to stick a screen protector on it might create holes in the oleophobic coating which will mean you will need a screen protector for life (we saw this many times in the nexus s section)
My advice is,
1. DO NOT use any screen protector at all!
2. buy a protective sock to put your phone into
3. ALWAYS leave it in a pocket that has nothing else but the phone in, inside its protective sock
4. NEVER clean the phone with any sort of polish or chemicals, always just clean it with a dry cloth
If you do these three things you will have a wonderful "as new" phone for the duration of your time with the SGSII )
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Yeah your prob right
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Yeah your prob right
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When i sold my nexus s it was the same condition as when i brought it out of the shop In the house i use a cover to protect the back leaving the front open, and when im out and about i use a sock...
Show your phone some love;P
JD
its very true.. my omnia HD has also gorilla glass and I have it for a year and a half now and it was NEVER scratched... XD I even play with it, taking coins and start scratching the screen... lol.. I also make fun of the screen saying even with a knife its not sure the screen will be scratched..
and I DONT have a screen protector.
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I ordered screen protectors, however I heard they're not necessary when one has gorilla glass.
It really depends how hard you are on things. Gorilla glass is not indestructable. But then screen protectors were born of a day and age where screens were plastic. Your BB or other candy bar phone had a clear plastic housing the covered the LCD - dropping your phone could ruin your view. And PDAs used styli on resistive touchscreens (plastic) one burr on your stylus and your screen was ruined.
I have never used a screen protector on any glass screen and never had a problem.
Gorilla glass is really tough and i don't believe in screen protectors - but i can't guarantee that you can't scratch it if you routinely keep your phone in a bag of nails while running in the Dakar Rally.
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It really depends how hard you are on things. Gorilla glass is not indestructable. But then screen protectors were born of a day and age where screens were plastic. Your BB or other candy bar phone had a clear plastic housing the covered the LCD - dropping your phone could ruin your view. And PDAs used styli on resistive touchscreens (plastic) one burr on your stylus and your screen was ruined.
I have never used a screen protector on any glass screen and never had a problem.
Gorilla glass is really tough and i don't believe in screen protectors - but i can't guarantee that you can't scratch it if you routinely keep your phone in a bag of nails while running in the Dakar Rally.
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That was hilarious, I'll try not to keep in a bag of nails hahahaha! thanks for your insight.
gorrila glass is made to be stronger than normal glass but is by no means scratch proof, you may not get deep gashes but you can still get hairline scratches which for me are just as annoying.
Yeah im going to have to disagree
Im a mechanic and I used to have a nexus one with a thick screen protector on it. During a one year period I have dropped it kept nuts and bolts in my pocket keys etc. When it came time to sell my phone all I did was peel off the protector and the screen was mint.
On a second note I now have a dell streak and when I dropped it from waist heightand the screen shattered. Not to say a screen protector would have saved it, But It does add some extra protection, especially the thicker protectors. So ... Why not put one on.
Just really depends on you honestly. I've been using an iPhone4 since it came out last year, and never had a screen protector on the front or back. The device is still flawless, I just don't put it with my keys and I try not to lay it on surfaces that are really abrasive. I'd just toss a case on the back and leave the screen naked, it tends to feel and look so much better, especially with high-res screens.
Is it confirmed that the Atrix has Gorilla Glass?
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Is it confirmed that the Atrix has Gorilla Glass?
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Yes. It does.
Yep... says it on Motorola's website for the Atrix that it uses gorilla glass. And as with the previous poster, i too have had an iPhone 4 since it was launched, and have never had a screen protector on the front. And like him, i don't put my phone in my pocket with anything else. I have my right pocket for money/change/keys/etc... and my left pocket for my phone.
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Yep... says it on Motorola's website for the Atrix that it uses gorilla glass. And as with the previous poster, i too have had an iPhone 4 since it was launched, and have never had a screen protector on the front. And like him, i don't put my phone in my pocket with anything else. I have my right pocket for money/change/keys/etc... and my left pocket for my phone.
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+1 Same here, but with an aging Iphone 3gs, no protector, got no scratches. But it does suck having all that crap in the right pocket.
I have a nexus one. My job puts my phone through hell simply put. To the point where I have destroyed the cover and screen protector. Now I have chips out of my phone's shell but the screen remains in perfect condition(w/o a screen protector for 6 months of solid abuse.)
So, unless you plan on keeping sharp enough objects to damage this screen in you pocket, if you did those would be some holey pockets and legs, I would just keep the money.
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I use them only because i get severely pissed off when my screen is smudged to hell from my fingers. The AT&T sold screen protectors, while generally being absolute crap that don't last more than 2 weeks, do an awesome job of hiding fingerprints. The ghost armor i had on my Aria was also good in this regard. I might go that route simply to alleviate fingerprints.
If you opt for the higher-end protectors (Zagg InvisibleShield, Skinomi Techskin, etc) and know how to properly apply them, it improves the look and feel. I use them primarily because they reduce glare and they're smudge resistant, but having the extra protection is a bonus, but I don't put my phone in the same pocket as my keys.
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I use them only because i get severely pissed off when my screen is smudged to hell from my fingers. The AT&T sold screen protectors, while generally being absolute crap that don't last more than 2 weeks, do an awesome job of hiding fingerprints. The ghost armor i had on my Aria was also good in this regard. I might go that route simply to alleviate fingerprints.
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If you opt for the higher-end protectors (Zagg InvisibleShield, Skinomi Techskin, etc) and know how to properly apply them, it improves the look and feel. I use them primarily because they reduce glare and they're smudge resistant, but having the extra protection is a bonus, but I don't put my phone in the same pocket as my keys.
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thats really the only reason i use the screen protectors. I prefer them because they reduce the smudging and fingerprints on the screen.
Naugh; I have had my captivate for about 6 months now and no screen protector, no case for that matter either.
The phone has scuffs and dents galore, but the screen is flawless and it goes everywhere with me.
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I always put a screen protector on my phones because no matter how scratch resistant they say the glass is, it always scratches. You can always get the regular screen protector and not the anti-glare so that you can maintain the same feel similar to the natural screen.
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its like using birth control pills and condoms. It cant hurt.
I mainly used screen protectors for the finger prints and grease on screen issue. Just as others mentioned earlier though, guerrilla glass is far from indestructible, dropped my nexus one on concrete (maybe a foot drop) and it put a really bad scratch in my screen.
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its like using birth control pills and condoms. It cant hurt.
I mainly used screen protectors for the finger prints and grease on screen issue. Just as others mentioned earlier though, guerrilla glass is far from indestructible, dropped my nexus one on concrete (maybe a foot drop) and it put a really bad scratch in my screen.
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Well to start with the Atrix uses a newer concoction of Gorilla Glass. Corning was saying they developed a new Gorilla Glass around December of last year, IIRC. I know the Atrix was one of the models it was being implemented in.
Aside from that...I've already put on a protector. I like to put anti-glare/anti-fingerprint protectors on all my touchscreen devices. It decreases the screen clarity slightly, but it helps to eliminate fingerprints and, more importantly, reduces drag from your finger. Especially if you have any sweat or moisture on your fingers it can really help to reduce the drag. Feels smoother.
The Following current phones and tablets below all have gorilla glass. I have already seen the Samsung Galaxy Tab glass screen with major scratches after a customer dropped it onto the pavement landing face down. Did not crack or break... but the scratches were bad. Same thing can happen to the Atrix so I would definitely consider getting a screen protector. Most of them cheap or not are usually effective.
Dell: Aero, Streak, Venue Pro
LG: LG Mini, Arena TV, Ophone, Ally, Optimus 7
Samsung: Behold II, Captivate, Continuum, Epic 4G, Fascinate, Flight II, Galaxy A,
Galaxy S, Mesmerize, S8500 WAVE, Trance, Transform, Ultra TOUCH S8300, Vibrant
Samsung: Galaxy Tab
Motorola: Atrix 4G
alphadog00 said:
It really depends how hard you are on things. Gorilla glass is not indestructable. But then screen protectors were born of a day and age where screens were plastic. Your BB or other candy bar phone had a clear plastic housing the covered the LCD - dropping your phone could ruin your view. And PDAs used styli on resistive touchscreens (plastic) one burr on your stylus and your screen was ruined.
I have never used a screen protector on any glass screen and never had a problem.
Gorilla glass is really tough and i don't believe in screen protectors - but i can't guarantee that you can't scratch it if you routinely keep your phone in a bag of nails while running in the Dakar Rally.
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That was a good one.... some creativity to get your phone scratched.....lolz.........
Samsung Galaxy S II has been designed with Gorilla Glass?No need of Screen Guard?
I have seen 2 sites saying Samsung Galaxy S II has been designed with Gorilla Glass so I want to make sure. http://androidcommunity.com/samsung-galaxy-sii-gorilla-glass-confirmed-20110503/ Lost another site link.is that true?
Of course SGS II has Gorilla Glass. But I am still really confused that it will or will not need a screen protector! I really don't like them but I think it's better to have one rather than scratching that beautiful 4.27" screen. What do you guys think?
Thanks for putting that link up.
ithehappy said:
Of course SGS II has Gorilla Glass. But I am still really confused that it will or will not need a screen protector! I really don't like them but I think it's better to have one rather than scratching that beautiful 4.27" screen. What do you guys think?
Thanks for putting that link up.
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OK Thanks and I think it is 100% better getting a screen Protector for safety.It is better to get a Rs.100-500 screen guard instead of spending money on a screen after getting scratch on the screen.I am using 1 already and kept 1 as spare
Scratches WILL occur on gorilla glass, but they are less likely to be seenwhen compared to other screens.
So buy a screen protector.
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Raviteja_HYD said:
OK Thanks and I think it is 100% better getting a screen Protector for safety.It is better to get a Rs.100-500 screen guard instead of spending money on a screen after getting scratch on the screen.I am using 1 already and kept 1 as spare
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Hmm..I already ordered the 2nd one from Scratchgard.in, Rs.499, so it's costly, still I've read a lot of users posting that they didn't use any screen protector for more than one year wit GG and also they used it roughly, still no scratches on it. Yes I know Gorilla Glass is scratch resistant but not proof.
I'd like some users to post here who are not using any protective screen and post feedback here, if there is any scratches appearing or not.
Regards.
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I'd like some users to post here who are not using any protective screen and post feedback here, if there is any scratches appearing or not.
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There's already a LOT of threads talking about this exact topic. Yes, gorilla glass is tougher than your average glass, but it's not scratch-proof, so I personally don't see the point in taking the risk. Gorilla glass can and will get scratched.
Get a screen protector and never have to worry about scratches, or don't get one and always worry.
Guys i can highly recommend getting this screen protector you really cannot tell that you even have a protecter on your screen,after paying all that money for this phone im not taking any chances.
top service and fast delivery too...
http://cgi.ebay.ie/SGP-Ultra-Oleoph...292190?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item3f0ab0b3de
I have had my nexus one for about a year and it has a Gorilla Glass screen. I don't have a screen protector on and I have dropped it several times on asphalt and other surfaces and I don't have any scratches on my screen. I am waiting for the SGS2 to come out on sprint (hopefully) and I won't be bothering with a screen protector.
Thanks, but late for me, my bad.
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I have had my nexus one for about a year and it has a Gorilla Glass screen. I don't have a screen protector on and I have dropped it several times on asphalt and other surfaces and I don't have any scratches on my screen. I am waiting for the SGS2 to come out on sprint (hopefully) and I won't be bothering with a screen protector.
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good for you but id be more "better to be safe than sorry" and for a few quid for a screen protector like the Ultra Olephobic which you wouldn't even notice it was on i believe it's definitely worth getting.
Does the SGP ultra... have problems with air bubbles or orange skin?
I tried a couple of screen protectors with both nexus s and gs2 and I think I'm more bothered by bubbles and orange skin then scratches
I read in quite a few posts about light scratches, most probably due to the anti-fingerprint coating on the glass. But I wont get a screen protector. In the WM times with resistive screens you had to get one because the screens could get scratches with just your fingernail or the stylus, but they all (even the expensive ones) looked bad. So on my HD2 I didn't bother with a screen protector and don't regret it because after over 1,5 years of intensive use (otherwise it was in my pocket or on the stone floor besides my bed) without any cases or screen protectors, my HD2 doesn't even have one single scratch (and I mean the whole device). I just had to remove the paint of the battery cover because it came off on the edges where I hold it, but I would have done that anyway because it looks better, as you can see in this thread. I hope my SGS2 proves to be as good as my HD2.
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top service and fast delivery too...
http://cgi.ebay.ie/SGP-Ultra-Oleoph...292190?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item3f0ab0b3de
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thanks for sharing this link, I have never used a sp until now and no scratches, but I will make sure to get one, just to be on the safe side
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Does the SGP ultra... have problems with air bubbles or orange skin?
I tried a couple of screen protectors with both nexus s and gs2 and I think I'm more bothered by bubbles and orange skin then scratches
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No it doesn't, honestly i can barely tell mine is on it really is that good just take time to apply it properly there are videos on XDA which are useful regarding this, i did read reviews beforehand and most were favourable but after applying it i really am impressed with it, scrolling is still as smooth as ever,sure you'll get fingerprints and smudge marks but you'd get that on the screen anyway just wipe it off.
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thanks for sharing this link, I have never used a sp until now and no scratches, but I will make sure to get one, just to be on the safe side
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No problem by the way i seen your signature "can you help"
this might be of some interest to you if you haven't seen it already.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1104051
Even though it says that the screen is scratch resistant, I wouldn't take the chance. When I got my SGSII, I went ahead and searched for a pouch and a screen protector. Money well spent!
I have it from 1 month ago, without any protector a no scratches. I transport my SGS2 in my pocket always.
For those of you who say that they aren't worried about their phone scratching because its always in their pocket, I would still recommend you getting one, purely because of the fact that Gorilla Glass is vulnerable to SAND and DUST. Sand particles have a very high hardness rating exceeding that of Gorilla glass, so it will carve up your pretty little phone without a care in the world. Simply wiping the screen cover with a cloth that has a particle of sand on it, can scratch the screen, not to mention the original oleophobic coating Samsung put over the Gorilla Glass, which itself is very vulnerable.
I can also vouch for the SGP Ultra Oleophobic Screen Protector. Hands down the best balance of everything a screen protector should have. I've used some no name brands, the Zagg ones as well as the SGP Ultra Crystal one before, and none can compare.
The SGP Ultra Oleophobic beats the Ultra Crystal hands-down simply because it repels oil much better, and can be cleaned with one wipe of a shirt or cloth. On the other hand, the ultra crystal clings to fingerprints and oil like a fat kid to a candy bar.
Both however, exhibit zero rainbow effects, air bubbles or orange peel effects. For about 30 minutes after putting the oleophobic one on, there is a bit of rubbery/slightly sticky feeling on the protector, but it goes away after some use or a bit of cleaning with a microfibre cloth. I'd also recommend not applying the protector on vertically, from speaker to microphone, but rather, from left to right. It is MUCH easier to align this way, and much easier to retry if you messed up the first time.
I've had many people who've played with my phone ask me why I don't bother putting on a screen protector, and when I tell them to look again, they are genuinely surprised they didn't realize it was there.
TL;DR: get a screen protector, because sand (which is actually harder than gorilla glass) and dust can and WILL scratch your screen eventually. also, SGP Ultra Oleophobic beats everything else hands down.
I think Sammy will send the gorilla glass as OTA update when Android Weedcake 2.5.5 hits the market sometime in the distant future.
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well well well talk about fate,there is a scratch on the screen and i only put the ultra olephobic screen protector on yesterday initially i thought it was a hair but it's a very small scratch so im even more pleased now i had this on otherwise id have a scratch, thankfully you get 2 screen protectors so i can just replace this one.
does the tp have gorilla glass or not ??
and any recomendation for screen garder
Some reviews say it does in fact have gorilla glass...
While I don't think its anywhere on HP website or gorilla glass support website...
Id get a screen protector anyways gorilla glass is somewhat a gimmick as all glass is easy to scrach and break... Gorilla glass is just a marketing tool imo and have scrached a few in my life
I only had my touchpad for a few days now and I bought a screen protector from Walmart (designed for the touchpad)
Forgot the name ill post it in a few mins...
The general consensus around the net is that it does, many reputable reviewers remark on it having gorilla glass, however these mostly consist of reviews done with pre-launch units that may be different in some regards to the mass-production touchpads.
I dont think HP nor Corning have officially stated that it has, my guess is that some touchpads may have it and others have similar glass.
At any rate, I tried out a screen protector for mine and ended up taking it off 10 minutes later due to a distinct difference in responsiveness and feel. I may have just got unlucky with a cheap one, and your generally better off with a screen protector anyhow
I got a Griffin from Walmart... its alot better than any other screen protector I've used...
And I've used alot on phones and my old ipad
I bruyant a screen protecteur of ipad and resize it
Thank you
I'm going with "not". My Nook Color, which has never seen a screen protector, remains scratch free after nearly a year and 5 kids abusing it. Within the first month, the kids managed to put a 1" scratch across the middle of the Touchpad. I've since bought screen protectors for it from Amazon.
Gorilla glass is just tough against shocks.... not scratches
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Whatever is on it, I have never felt a more slippery device in my life. Both front and back of this thing seem like they exude a lubricating oil that makes it impossible to remain in your hands or be fingerprint-free.
Absolutely crazy.
BoulderGeek said:
Whatever is on it, I have never felt a more slippery device in my life. Both front and back of this thing seem like they exude a lubricating oil that makes it impossible to remain in your hands or be fingerprint-free.
Absolutely crazy.
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I plan on buying a case for the Slippy factor
Just don't know which one to get :/
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Whatever is on it, I have never felt a more slippery device in my life. Both front and back of this thing seem like they exude a lubricating oil that makes it impossible to remain in your hands or be fingerprint-free.
Absolutely crazy.
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The actual glass part is coated by HP with a clear solution making it easy to wipe the screen with any cloth, no liquids necessary. It is always so shiny and clean after I do a small wipe. I do also think it is Gorilla Glass, take a razor and try to scratch it . Then again, it IS glass .
I can not believe my eyes when I see that I can actually see scratches on my screen. It only shows up when the screen is oily or fog up. When it is clean, they won't show even under direct light. That got to be some coating getting scratched. Can others provide some insights on that?
http://goo.gl/TmBeL
Check this video. It is possible to get scratch even if you got Gorilla glass.
(The Amaze is not gorilla glass but it is a reinforced glass that similar to Gorilla glass.)
It is better to have a cheap screen protector on the screen all the time.
yep, welcome to my world, I was being stupid and didn't get a cover for mine...My nexus one lasted for a year after I took off the screen cover with no scratches, I don't know what kind of glass HTC is using now, they say its fortified, it still doesn't mean scratch proof:
read this thread i made a while back.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1422964&highlight=warning
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Check this video. It is possible to get scratch even if you got Gorilla glass.
(The Amaze is not gorilla glass but it is a reinforced glass that similar to Gorilla glass.)
It is better to have a cheap screen protector on the screen all the time.
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we're not sure if amaze is gorilla glass or not, as gorilla says in their FAQ that they do not realease the information of all the phones that have gorilla glass on them...due to agreement between the sellers like HTC. It definitely is fortified glass of some sorts, but yea even gorilla glass gets scratched..
As someone who keeps a single phone for years, I never understood the mentality that says one should have a screen protector. Now hear me out: I understand that the screen protector is supposed to protect the screen from being scratched. If the purpose of not scratching the screen is purely aesthetic, then the screen protector is useless, if not so beyond useless that it becomes an aesthetic liability. Screen protectors are no where near as hard as the combination of glass and coatings that compose the screen itself. Across the useable life of the phone, the thin plastic of a screen protector is much more likely to accumulate scratches than the glass. And so in the end it comes to be that the people who are most concerned about preserving the aesthetics of a mint-condition phone have one that is shrouded by an ugly protective case and a screen protector covered in hundreds of scratches that would not otherwise register on the glass.
But more towards the original concern: whether or not the screen is Gorilla(TM) glass, a similar glass, regular glass, or even pure and impossibly cut diamond, the anti-fingerprint and -reflective coatings sitting atop would not benefit from their scratch-resistant properties. My screen also has this problem. It only shows up when there is significant oil or fingerprints on the screen. I find the latter much more annoying. So I constantly wipe the phone on my pants or sweater and it's back to normal.
mischivo said:
As someone who keeps a single phone for years, I never understood the mentality that says one should have a screen protector. Now hear me out: I understand that the screen protector is supposed to protect the screen from being scratched. If the purpose of not scratching the screen is purely aesthetic, then the screen protector is useless, if not so beyond useless that it becomes an aesthetic liability. Screen protectors are no where near as hard as the combination of glass and coatings that compose the screen itself. Across the useable life of the phone, the thin plastic of a screen protector is much more likely to accumulate scratches than the glass. And so in the end it comes to be that the people who are most concerned about preserving the aesthetics of a mint-condition phone have one that is shrouded by an ugly protective case and a screen protector covered in hundreds of scratches that would not otherwise register on the glass.
But more towards the original concern: whether or not the screen is Gorilla(TM) glass, a similar glass, regular glass, or even pure and impossibly cut diamond, the anti-fingerprint and -reflective coatings sitting atop would not benefit from their scratch-resistant properties. My screen also has this problem. It only shows up when there is significant oil or fingerprints on the screen. I find the latter much more annoying. So I constantly wipe the phone on my pants or sweater and it's back to normal.
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I can scratch the "coating" with a new walmart bag. It is just annoying. I am sure htc is using gorilla glass. They used it in their other products. Doesn't make sense they will drop out from that.
I would use a TPU case on the phone because the naked phone is too slippery to hold. Scratches won't affect performance, but dropping it will render the phone non functional.
mischivo said:
As someone who keeps a single phone for years, I never understood the mentality that says one should have a screen protector. Now hear me out: I understand that the screen protector is supposed to protect the screen from being scratched. If the purpose of not scratching the screen is purely aesthetic, then the screen protector is useless, if not so beyond useless that it becomes an aesthetic liability. Screen protectors are no where near as hard as the combination of glass and coatings that compose the screen itself. Across the useable life of the phone, the thin plastic of a screen protector is much more likely to accumulate scratches than the glass. And so in the end it comes to be that the people who are most concerned about preserving the aesthetics of a mint-condition phone have one that is shrouded by an ugly protective case and a screen protector covered in hundreds of scratches that would not otherwise register on the glass.
But more towards the original concern: whether or not the screen is Gorilla(TM) glass, a similar glass, regular glass, or even pure and impossibly cut diamond, the anti-fingerprint and -reflective coatings sitting atop would not benefit from their scratch-resistant properties. My screen also has this problem. It only shows up when there is significant oil or fingerprints on the screen. I find the latter much more annoying. So I constantly wipe the phone on my pants or sweater and it's back to normal.
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Point taken but sometimes deep scratches are not aesthetics, its just intrusive to your daily work, so you're better off getting a screen protector, than have a deep scratch in your screen that can cost you a couple of hundred bucks to fix
I had my Hero for about 2 years. I put a screen protector on it right away. After about a month the it looked abolutely terrible. It was marked and scratched and had bubbles. Ugly. I pulled the screen protector off and never put another one on. the screen was as nice the day I sold it as it was the day I bought it. I have no intention of putting a screen protector on my Amaze. The beauty of the screen is, after all, one of the reasons I chose this phone.
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I had my Hero for about 2 years. I put a screen protector on it right away. After about a month the it looked abolutely terrible. It was marked and scratched and had bubbles. Ugly. I pulled the screen protector off and never put another one on. the screen was as nice the day I sold it as it was the day I bought it. I have no intention of putting a screen protector on my Amaze. The beauty of the screen is, after all, one of the reasons I chose this phone.
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Don't make the same mistake I did...you will regret it. I though the same at first. I mean my other phones did fine without screen protectors, but seems like for some reason this screen scratches quick...I'm very careful with my phone and I was suprised to see a deep scratch on it, I had no Idea how!!! just letting you know...I made the same exact mistake and posted the same thing in the accessories section, stated why people were putting screen protectors on their phones, and how it wasn't necessary.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1353158&highlight=screen&page=2
read post 16 and 18 made by me, i thought the same exact thing. even gorilla glass gets scratched , just spend 6 bucks get a boxwave one...at first I didn't like it, thought it was a bit sticky but after using it for a fewe days its smooth as the glass and you don't even notice it AT ALL NowI love it!!! It's exactly like the glass itself!!
Maybe you should mention that in the accessories thread, before people begin to think you still hate Boxwave and then they steer away from it.
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Maybe you should mention that in the accessories thread, before people begin to think you still hate Boxwave and then they steer away from it.
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you're right, I will
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I can scratch the "coating" with a new walmart bag. It is just annoying. I am sure htc is using gorilla glass. They used it in their other products. Doesn't make sense they will drop out from that.
I would use a TPU case on the phone because the naked phone is too slippery to hold. Scratches won't affect performance, but dropping it will render the phone non functional.
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Your last is a very good point. I made an oversight. Drop protection cases are useful.
So I've been using my Lumias for a while with a Skinomi screen protector. These are probably the best options for a screen like the one on the Lumia: the curved design makes regular plastic screen protectors (the only ones with a decent look and feel) useless on this phone, you can't even set them up properly; on the other hand, wet application screen protectors suck really bad: they have that orange peel look and feel, they give you that horrible feeling when swiping and look terrible in sunlight, Skinomi is no exception.
This got me thinking. I decided to go without a screen protector on my 400+ € piece of hardware. Am I just a mad man? Not quite (IMHO), here's why: gorilla glass can be scratched, that is for sure, but you're most likely to get only really thin scratches in the coating (given that you're careful), which can be 100% hidden with a wet application screen protector. So why would you go for one in the first place when your screen is still pristine, when you can still actually enjoy it? When you'll have the feeling that it's getting too much scratched you'll still be able to get a protector and have a fresh start.
What do you guys think? Do you still use protectors on your Lumias? Do you enjoy "freedom" instead? Please let me know. Maybe I'm just too OCD and crazy, but this phone and its amazing curved glass is giving me a lot of headaches. How do you deal with it?
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So I've been using my Lumias for a while with a Skinomi screen protector. These are probably the best options for a screen like the one on the Lumia: the curved design makes regular plastic screen protectors (the only ones with a decent look and feel) useless on this phone, you can't even set them up properly; on the other hand, wet application screen protectors suck really bad: they have that orange peel look and feel, they give you that horrible feeling when swiping and look terrible in sunlight, Skinomi is no exception.
This got me thinking. I decided to go without a screen protector on my 400+ € piece of hardware. Am I just a mad man? Not quite (IMHO), here's why: gorilla glass can be scratched, that is for sure, but you're most likely to get only really thin scratches in the coating (given that you're careful), which can be 100% hidden with a wet application screen protector. So why would you go for one in the first place when your screen is still pristine, when you can still actually enjoy it? When you'll have the feeling that it's getting too much scratched you'll still be able to get a protector and have a fresh start.
What do you guys think? Do you still use protectors on your Lumias? Do you enjoy "freedom" instead? Please let me know. Maybe I'm just too OCD and crazy, but this phone and its amazing curved glass is giving me a lot of headaches. How do you deal with it?
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You're not mad, haha! You're just like me, I have a crap one on mine, I really didn't want to put a screen protector on, usually I'm good with my phones, but strangely, on the first day that I bought the Lumia, I managed to put a faint scratch on it, and that cheesed me off. So I put a half-ass martins on. Which is ok.
I've got a skinomi, and I've yet to put it on, I haven't ever put a wet screen protector on any of my phones, now based on your review, I don't want to. So I'm stuck on whether I should bother with putting one on or just taking it off completely and allowing the thin scratches.
p.s. phone currently at Nokia care centre...
Glad to see I'm not that weird Btw what do you mean by martins, maybe Martin Fields? I saw one of those on Expansys but apparently it doesn't cover the whole screen, so it will probably peel off easily like all of the non wet ones...
i didn't use a screen protector on my lumia - actually i've never used a screen protector before (i just know i'll put it on badly).
i also found the rubber-ish case provided is terrible for keeping your phone clean. somehow dust gets underneath it and just makes the phone look horrible.
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i also found the rubber-ish case provided is terrible for keeping your phone clean. somehow dust gets underneath it and just makes the phone look horrible.
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Actually I think that the original case gets way less greasy than the phone itself (assuming you have the black one), the white one is a fingerprint magnet, but it's glossy so it's very easy to wipe...I also tried a few tpu cases, but they even make things worse.
The lumia it's a fantastic phone with a fantastic Gorilla Glass and a fantastic polycarbonate unibody, why you need to put something on this phone to protect it ???
look there
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The lumia it's a fantastic phone with a fantastic Gorilla Glass and a fantastic polycarbonate unibody, why you need to put something on this phone to protect it ???
look there
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Maybe because you want it to stay beautiful for longer than a couple months
I've never used screen protector with 3 gorilla glass phones during 2 year time period and not a single scratch.
I've not bothered with a screen protector on mine due to the curves, and the screen is still pristine, although I never keep anything in my pocket with it.
Screen protectors sucks on every phone! I rather take a few scratches than using a protector that takes away all the good feelings from the touch.
In fact I already got a small small scratch. Doesn't bother me as much as a screen protector would though.
I'm using a Zagg screen protector (wet application) on mine. At least it adhered properly around the curved screen. Yes, it does feel different than the naked screen, but that is not necessarily a bad feeling. My $0.02
Well, right now I don't have one on. I have tried every brand, Skinomi, Zagg, Martin Fields and even some cheap one from eBay, but no luck: they either don't stay on at all or look crap with their orange peel effect. Wet ones are even worse: if a grain of dust gets underneath when you install them it gets stuck and you can't take it away by any mean, even washing them doesn't help. I ordered a Gadgetshieldz protector because I heard they're the best ones, but if it doesn't satisfy me I'll keep going naked, I'm sick of this crap, I just wanna enjoy the phone
Don't worry about the scratches guys. It's just the Oleophobic coating.
Anyway to hide those scratches, apply a small amount of clear car wax and wipe it off.
That coating does a great job by the way... my screen gets less finger-printy than previous phones.
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That coating does a great job by the way... my screen gets less finger-printy than previous phones.
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Yeah it's actually doing great. When you swipe It feels like you're not even touching the phone, it seems like a gesture more than a touch input. The SGSII I had before had a pretty smooth screen when naked, but it didn't even come close. Maybe the curved glass is helping increasing that feeling too. Day after day the idea of putting on a screen protector on this baby sounds more and more like murder. I guess I'll still be using one of those zagg-like protectors when I go to the seaside tho, sand can still screw up everything. The Gadgetshieldz thing I'm getting will help me through that I guess...
I'm not using a screen protector on my Lumia 800.
When I bought my phone, I wanted to; especially because I had 2 mini scratches on the screen within 24 hours of purchase.
Although it would be nice to have one, it's a bit of a hassle so I decided not to go out of my way to get one. I just try to be careful with my phone and the only cover I am using is the one provided for the body, but I'm even thinking about removing that.
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I just try to be careful with my phone and the only cover I am using is the one provided for the body, but I'm even thinking about removing that.
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I'd like to go completely naked too, but given the form factor of the back I'd probably screw up the camera. As far as I can tell the glass on the Lumia is behaving pretty well, however you're still gonna get a few scratches in the coating in no time, regardless how careful you are. Honestly it doesn't bother me at all tho: the very tiny marks on the coating are only visible under a strong light, looking very closely at the phone which has to be sitting at a very special angle. With a screen protector I would get much bigger and annoying scratches, plus the hideous orange peel effect, which makes the screen really look and feel like garbage. I repeat, I can't murder such a beautiful design that way. I only hope that I won't get BIG scratches, those ones able to create that horrible rainbow effect. This is probably the only thing that would suck even more than a screen protector, but I'm not just careful, I'm literally obsessed with my phone, so it's highly unlikely to happen. Only rubbing sand at full force on the screen should have such consequences...fingers crossed
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I only hope that I won't get BIG scratches, those ones able to create that horrible rainbow effect.
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I got one of those but it's SMALL. Like 2mm long fairly deep as yo can easily feel it if I want to but its sitting at the edge of the screen on the right side so I never notice it in my daily use. As I said earlier. I rather take those scratches than using a protector as it would bother me more than the scratches I get. Gorilla glass is good but it's no miracle glas by any means.
I managed to drop my brand new phone on the gravel (thank God it's my work phone) and got a really, really bad scratch that really annoyed me so I decided to get a screen protector so I wouldn't make everything worse.
I first ordered a Skinomi and while the fit was pretty decent I screwed up badly when putting it on and I wasn't about to order another one from the US. So I decided to try Copter (Swedish only brand I think?)
While it is originally for the N9 with a cut out in the bottom for the sensor it was in my opinion much, much better. It is a bit smaller then the actual screen but it is so thin, 0,178 mm, that I can barely notice it unless some dust get stuck to the edges.
There is a slight drag when using it compared to no protector but you just have to lighten up your touch and you won't notice. There is no orange peel affect at all and the best thing is that the bad scratch is gone, completely!
I would prefer not having a screen protector at all but since I know I'm clumpsy and will most likely scratch my screen even more I can highly recommend Copter. (If you can get it) In my oppinion it feels and looks ton better then Skinomi. My GF has a Zagg on here phone and in my oppinion that is crap in comparisson, thicker, more drag and an orange peel effect.
Sounds good, thanks for the tip. Anyway I could only find it here http://www.teknikmagasinet.no/db.pl...&title=Copter Displayfilm Nokia N9/Lumia 800&
But actually I don't understand a word so I really don't know wether they ship to my country or not :/
@dannejeanne: ouch, sorry to hear that. How did you manage to put that scratch on it? Did you drop it? If it can scratch that way without a particular reason this kinda sucks...