Froyo OTA and battery issues - Fascinate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

My brother did the OTA update last night, his phone has never been rooted.
After about 5 hours today his battery has about 20% life left! Battery stats says 74% of the power was used by the display which was on for 40 minutes.
Cell standby is about 4% of battery use and he was without signal for 25% of the time, if I recall correctly.
Anyone else observing something similar?
My battery life on 2.9.2 has been less than desirable and I was considering going back to stock in hopes the battery would be better after the OTA. This is not encouraging.
Also, does he need to go through a couple battery cycles, drain fully then fully charge, before he gets a clear picture of what the battery life would be?
TIA

Yes true battery life will be clearer after a few days of use. The phone learns your usage and gives a better idea of how much charge is left.
best way is to fully charge battery and then wipe battery stats and then drain battery and then charge battery to full one charge. Then use phone normally for s couple of days. Then you will hadn't good sense of what kind of battery life you are getting.
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Thanks for the response.
Am I correct that he would need to root to be able to run the battery stats script or is there another way?

wscaddie56 said:
My brother did the OTA update last night, his phone has never been rooted.
After about 5 hours today his battery has about 20% life left! Battery stats says 74% of the power was used by the display which was on for 40 minutes.
Cell standby is about 4% of battery use and he was without signal for 25% of the time, if I recall correctly.
Anyone else observing something similar?
My battery life on 2.9.2 has been less than desirable and I was considering going back to stock in hopes the battery would be better after the OTA. This is not encouraging.
Also, does he need to go through a couple battery cycles, drain fully then fully charge, before he gets a clear picture of what the battery life would be?
TIA
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I update OTA last week on Verizon to Froyo 2.2. My battery was overheating and draining like crazy from my CPU usage being at a constant 99%..
I found the source of the problem. An app I use for facebook called "FLOW". The CPU usage was cut to 20% when I killed it with "Advanced Task Killer".
I resolved the issue by: Opening Flow.. going to Preferences.. Notification Settings.. Refresh Type.. Checked Periodic Polling (I was using Gmail Experimental previously)
Hope this helps...

I agree, the OTA froyo ED01 is worse for battery life. I get 5-8% per hour idle drain, which is way too high. I've been try to track down the issue with spare parts, system pannel, and battery details. So far I can't see any specific issue.
There are so many hoops to jump through just to get this phone working normally. It's really insanity that we should have to bust our butts on software bugs. And this isn't even mentioning the totally slow choppy ass browser in 2.2. (Vibrant browser on 2.2 SO much better)
Overall my urge to flush this POS down the toilet is growing every day.

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Help with my battery?

My battery has horrible life. I'm rooted running evil fascination and have done all the things that typically help with battery life such as disabling gps and wifi, and lowering brightness. In fact my brightness is currently as low as it gets and my battery use shows my display as 99% of my current usage. Even though I just took my phone off the charger 15 minutes ago and it's already at 85%. I know my screen can't possibly have taken that much battery so fast. It also takes about 4 hours to charge from zero to 100 because it's draining so fast. Can anyone give me some advice? I downloaded an app that shows my current mah or whatever but I don't know what that means. I notice when it's at 270mah my battery drains fast which is most of the time but a few times it has been at 2 mah and it doesn't drain fast then.
sounds like a rogue app keeping your phone/screen running when off.. I had the same problem a while ago, 96% screen usage and taking 6 hours to charge then draining to zero in an hour and a half.. unfortunately the only thing that fixed it for me was a complete data/cache wipe and reflash of the rom, I think I was on superclean 2.9.2 at the time.. could be the battery being wonky also, you might wanna look into the battery calibration app on the market or wiping batt stats in CWR
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Terrible battery life with the OTA update

I have the stock 4.5.9 gingerbread update on my AT&T ATRIX. However I am observing a terrible battery life. There are too many solutions in the forum to follow. Can someone direct me to the appropriate one? I am rooted and unlocked. I used the unlocked 4.5.9 sbf for upgrading from from Froyo to gingerbread 2.3.4
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there;s a lot of solutions because poor battery life can be cause by many things, you have to find out what is draining your battery. try calibrating first let it drain until your phone turns off and then if you have cwm install then wipe batterystats and then a full uninterrupted charge
Try setting profiles in SetCPU and freezing apps with TitaniumBackup. Theres a topic for each of these two solutions.
battery stats 6h 3m 29s on battery (now left with 10% of battery)
Display 49%
Phone Idle 22%
Cell standby 6%
Android system 5%
Launcherpro 3%
xda 3%
Android OS 3%
this is just terrible .. i never had such battery life with Froyo. i dont understand what might be the problem. Meanwhile i will try to calibrate my battery.
anupash said:
battery stats 6h 3m 29s on battery (now left with 10% of battery)
Display 49%
Phone Idle 22%
Cell standby 6%
Android system 5%
Launcherpro 3%
xda 3%
Android OS 3%
this is just terrible .. i never had such battery life with Froyo. i dont understand what might be the problem. Meanwhile i will try to calibrate my battery.
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Calibrate your battery.
Then freeze your bloat.
Problem solved.
dont forget you might also being playing with your phone a lot more trying to see all the new stuff in the update. Thus causing more battery drain.
Anthonok said:
dont forget you might also being playing with your phone a lot more trying to see all the new stuff in the update. Thus causing more battery drain.
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There are some strange things happening with the battery. I let my battery discharge completely to the point where phone shuts down. Then I plugged in to charger, waited for 2-3 minutes so that I can start the phone. Started the phone and saw 50% battery. Don't know what's going on.
I was told by an admin from another site that most of the battery programs do not work with ova ginbread. You go to settings/about/status and observe the battery. I do no I was also getting flaky results with 2 of the battery programs.
anupash said:
There are some strange things happening with the battery. I let my battery discharge completely to the point where phone shuts down. Then I plugged in to charger, waited for 2-3 minutes so that I can start the phone. Started the phone and saw 50% battery. Don't know what's going on.
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That's a GB bug... there's a battery fix in the development section to flash which deals with the reboot battery jumping. (turn off phone at 50%, turn on phone and it says 70%)
I am having problems with my Atrix too. With my usage, I used to be able to get almost 3 days of battery life. Now it hardly lasts a day. I have checked pretty much all settings (sync, sleep) and all seems fine as far as I'm concerned. So I am having hard time trying to find what is causing this. The only suspect I have right now is wifi. I don't think wifi is sleeping even though I've selected "When screen turns off" in the sleep policy.

[Q] Battery Calibration - Seidio Extended Battery

So I was one of those who was finding my battery life to not be sufficient on the Photon and bought the Seidio extended battery. First thought is that it does make the phone heavier, but I can deal with that. Not a deal breaker.
My issue is that the Photon doesn't recognize the fact that I now have the extended battery. I've spent the last two days using Battery calibration software (charging overnight to 100%) and then trying to discharge completely and recharge. The problem is that the phone continually is showing 1% for almost 3-4 hours if not longer. I can't get it to recognize that there is more juice in there.
While it's great that it seems to be working well (first real work day with it today), having the battery drain like mad (or seemingly) and then sitting at 1% for half or more of the day and not knowing when it will die is a problem.
I wonder if this is why the stock seemed to drain so quickly - maybe it's a programming bug? Firmware bug? I dunno. In any event, any suggestions on how to make the phone actually see that there's more juice would be great.
As an FYI I've used "Battery Calibrator" - both of them and Battery Drainer and Fast Discharge to get the phone down. I am rooted, but everything is stock other then the root itself.
Thanks!
Rumor has it, that the latest software update decreases battery life. I have the latest update, (I understand that many have this issue updating, if you do, look it up in the forums, you will need to SBF the first version of software to your phone...), and my battery life could be a lot better, like it used to be.
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Well the issue now with the new battery isn't so much battery life. With the extended battery the life is stellar. This issue is that yesterday at about 3 in the afternoon the phone showed 1 percent battery life. Yet it didn't ever die. When i plugged it in last night before going to bed, at 1200, I still had 1 percent. So the issue is that the phone isn't properly recognizing the battery life itself.
Help?
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cubexg said:
Well the issue now with the new battery isn't so much battery life. With the extended battery the life is stellar. This issue is that yesterday at about 3 in the afternoon the phone showed 1 percent battery life. Yet it didn't ever die. When i plugged it in last night before going to bed, at 1200, I still had 1 percent. So the issue is that the phone isn't properly recognizing the battery life itself.
Help?
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I understand that you have used the battery calibration application, try installing CWM, ClockworkMod, after you root the phone. Drain the battery, charge to 100% boot up into CWM, and go to advanced, and clear battery stats...
If that doesn't work, then I could be the battery, or the phone itself. See if any other members have any insight.
Can't change bootloader on photon without breaking 4g as far as I know. Will crosspost in main photon forum. Thanks!
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Getting horrible battery life

I'm on Axura 2.2.7.2 and have horrible battery life no matter what battery I use.
For example, my battery percent is at 63% right now:
4h 48m 38s since unplugged
Display 90%
WiFi 5%
Cell Standby 3%
Phone idle :1%
The weird thing is that I don't really use it a lot either. I used it for maybe 20 minutes max. Talked on the phone for 5 minutes, made about 10 texts, and checked the time from my phone thats it.
Also, I'm using Zeam launcher, could that be the problem?
Please give me some tips on how to maximize my battery life.
You have to calibrate your battery. Download Battery Calibration from the market first, then kill your phone all to like 5%. Charge your phone all the way up to 100%
Then click on the calibrate button on the Battery Calibration app. You should be good after that. Make sure your unplug after calibrating and die the phone down again, and then charge is back to 100%
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please go to settings / about phone / battery use and post what is consuming most of your battery so we can help u better knowing what the problem is.
there are a lot of ways of improving battery. the best 4 me so far is a custom kernel that allows undervolting which helps a lot without affecting performance. underclocking if u want to go the extra mile, and lowering brightness helps too since our screens are battery hogs.
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Battery Life Help
Under Volting does not work for me...Making sure I run the battery down all the way and charge it full most of the time especially after deleting battery stats.

Battery draining within hours.

I have a extended battery. I usually get 2 days use on a charge. about a week ago I cannot make it thru a day. The battery is only about 6 weeks old. I tried another battery and same thing. I use task killer and app cleaner and have restarted several times. When I look in battery usage is shows the Android OS using 24% Display 26% and phone idle 24%. I did update all my app and this seemed to help just a little. Anyone have any suggestions before I return my extended battery or do a factory reset. tks in advance.
have you tried draining the phone completely till it shuts off, then plugging it in and letting it charge to 100% with the phone powered down?
Battery instructions say NOT to every let battery drain to 0. So not sure I should try that.
cdenloe said:
Battery instructions say NOT to every let battery drain to 0. So not sure I should try that.
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That is about the life that I get on mine on a bad day. Now that you have had the phone for a while, more than likely, your battery has not changed but you have installed more apps which are draining you battery even faster. You shouldn't use task killers either, they screw with the roms built in memory management. However, if you must, then use "Task Manager" the built in stock task manager to end apps. Also i agree that you should completely discharge your battery and then let it recharge completely without turning it on and without using it.
PS: You have a nice avatar. Conservative til i die
cdenloe said:
Battery instructions say NOT to every let battery drain to 0. So not sure I should try that.
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This is not true. The phone has its own power management. When you reach 0%, the battery has still at least 3100mV (on mine it's more than 3200mV).
Li-On and Li-Pol batteries are designed to operate between 4300 and 3000 mV when they reach more or less, than they are damaging.
So you can charge and discharge your phone everyday between 100 and 0%, without any battery damage.
Other thing is Android power management, every time you wipe battery stats or restore backup, or you spend some time in recovery, Android doesn't know, how much capacity is remaining and you need to make more charging cycles, to teach it again and get full capacity from battery. I still don't understand this kind of management in Android.
I've tried all the battery stuff. No dice still discharging fairly quick. In the Battery Usage section It still showing Android OS using around 39 to 40% usage all the time. I have done a full factory reset on the phone 2 days ago and still same.
I noticed, you are using the task killer, stop using it, you have probably loop of killing and starting of some services. Task killer kills, android starts, again and again...
I have uninstalled task killer restarted the phone and still got the high Android OS usage showing.
You won't notice any difference immediately, make one discharge, charge and discharge cycle and you'll see.
Do NOT discharge the battery completely. Over discharging Lithium ion batteries can be harmful to them. Here's a great article going into probably a little too much detail but it gets the point across: http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/charging_lithium_ion_batteries
As far as your problem goes it may be an issue with the phone itself I've seen a couple photons that needed to be exchanged due to issues that sound similar to yours. If it's doing the same thing on a different battery I'd take your phone into a sprint repair center, you could also try a factory reset if you have not already done so. If your only seeing this behavior with your current battery then I would return it or request a warranty replacement.
I have a extended battery. I usually get 2 days use on a charge. about a week ago I cannot make it thru a day. The battery is only about 6 weeks old. I tried another battery and same thing. I use task killer and app cleaner and have restarted several times. When I look in battery usage is shows the Android OS using 24% Display 26% and phone idle 24%. I did update all my app and this seemed to help just a little. Anyone have any suggestions before I return my extended battery or do a factory reset. tks in advance.
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root your photon (if not already rooted) and download battery calibration from market, also after rooting go to android development and download th3bill's extended battery mod
schale01 said:
Do NOT discharge the battery completely. Over discharging Lithium ion batteries can be harmful to them. Here's a great article going into probably a little too much detail but it gets the point across: http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/charging_lithium_ion_batteries
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Omg... Read that article again, and check, how much voltage is in the phone battery, when it reaches 0% ;-)
peetr_ said:
Omg... Read that article again, and check, how much voltage is in the phone battery, when it reaches 0% ;-)
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Yes, there is an additional reserve that the Smart chip will protect by turning off the battery once it reaches the "0% mark". The Smart chip will also continue to drain the battery further past the 0% mark eating into this battery reserve. Now one full discharge like this probably would not hurt the battery as long as the battery is recharge within a reasonable amount of time. However it certainly does nothing to benefit the battery health whatsoever and it is never recommended to let a battery fully discharge. There are some practices of only charging the battery to 75%-80% that can improve battery life, but individual run time will be sacrificed. My recommendation is if the battery is under 65% than to charge the battery if it is possible to do so.
After doing a factory reset the same problem remained. Sprint exchanged the phone for a new photon. Put my extended battery back in and so far no problems at all with the exception of not being able to join my contacts with my FB contacts.
I have been discharging my Photon and previous phones to 0-5% at least 3 times for a week and did not find any difference in capacity, compared with the new battery. Lasts from the morning to the evening. If I should charge it on 65%, then the phone would be unusable for me.
Like Schale said it could be an actual phone issue, but i highly doubt it. I would try some things before assuming its a problem with your phone. Do this... Also this assumes you are unlocked or at least rooted.
1: Factory reset so to start fresh with no crap applications (task killer apps do more harm than good, as do most battery saver apps)
2: Drain battery till the phone shuts itself off (Dude what right about it reserving a certain amount of juice to not cause damage)
3: Charge to 100% (Dont use the phone during this time.)
4: Use a battery calibrator app (rooted) or recovery (unlocked) to wipe the battery stats.
5: Drain power as fast as possible till phone shuts off
6: Charge to 100% (Again, dont use the phone during this time.)
You can now use the phone how you normally would. If you don't notice a drastic increase in battery after discharging and recharging three or four times over the next few days, I would be comfortable in assuming it's a phone problem. Good luck!

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