So I was one of those who was finding my battery life to not be sufficient on the Photon and bought the Seidio extended battery. First thought is that it does make the phone heavier, but I can deal with that. Not a deal breaker.
My issue is that the Photon doesn't recognize the fact that I now have the extended battery. I've spent the last two days using Battery calibration software (charging overnight to 100%) and then trying to discharge completely and recharge. The problem is that the phone continually is showing 1% for almost 3-4 hours if not longer. I can't get it to recognize that there is more juice in there.
While it's great that it seems to be working well (first real work day with it today), having the battery drain like mad (or seemingly) and then sitting at 1% for half or more of the day and not knowing when it will die is a problem.
I wonder if this is why the stock seemed to drain so quickly - maybe it's a programming bug? Firmware bug? I dunno. In any event, any suggestions on how to make the phone actually see that there's more juice would be great.
As an FYI I've used "Battery Calibrator" - both of them and Battery Drainer and Fast Discharge to get the phone down. I am rooted, but everything is stock other then the root itself.
Thanks!
Rumor has it, that the latest software update decreases battery life. I have the latest update, (I understand that many have this issue updating, if you do, look it up in the forums, you will need to SBF the first version of software to your phone...), and my battery life could be a lot better, like it used to be.
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Well the issue now with the new battery isn't so much battery life. With the extended battery the life is stellar. This issue is that yesterday at about 3 in the afternoon the phone showed 1 percent battery life. Yet it didn't ever die. When i plugged it in last night before going to bed, at 1200, I still had 1 percent. So the issue is that the phone isn't properly recognizing the battery life itself.
Help?
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cubexg said:
Well the issue now with the new battery isn't so much battery life. With the extended battery the life is stellar. This issue is that yesterday at about 3 in the afternoon the phone showed 1 percent battery life. Yet it didn't ever die. When i plugged it in last night before going to bed, at 1200, I still had 1 percent. So the issue is that the phone isn't properly recognizing the battery life itself.
Help?
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I understand that you have used the battery calibration application, try installing CWM, ClockworkMod, after you root the phone. Drain the battery, charge to 100% boot up into CWM, and go to advanced, and clear battery stats...
If that doesn't work, then I could be the battery, or the phone itself. See if any other members have any insight.
Can't change bootloader on photon without breaking 4g as far as I know. Will crosspost in main photon forum. Thanks!
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My brother did the OTA update last night, his phone has never been rooted.
After about 5 hours today his battery has about 20% life left! Battery stats says 74% of the power was used by the display which was on for 40 minutes.
Cell standby is about 4% of battery use and he was without signal for 25% of the time, if I recall correctly.
Anyone else observing something similar?
My battery life on 2.9.2 has been less than desirable and I was considering going back to stock in hopes the battery would be better after the OTA. This is not encouraging.
Also, does he need to go through a couple battery cycles, drain fully then fully charge, before he gets a clear picture of what the battery life would be?
TIA
Yes true battery life will be clearer after a few days of use. The phone learns your usage and gives a better idea of how much charge is left.
best way is to fully charge battery and then wipe battery stats and then drain battery and then charge battery to full one charge. Then use phone normally for s couple of days. Then you will hadn't good sense of what kind of battery life you are getting.
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Thanks for the response.
Am I correct that he would need to root to be able to run the battery stats script or is there another way?
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My brother did the OTA update last night, his phone has never been rooted.
After about 5 hours today his battery has about 20% life left! Battery stats says 74% of the power was used by the display which was on for 40 minutes.
Cell standby is about 4% of battery use and he was without signal for 25% of the time, if I recall correctly.
Anyone else observing something similar?
My battery life on 2.9.2 has been less than desirable and I was considering going back to stock in hopes the battery would be better after the OTA. This is not encouraging.
Also, does he need to go through a couple battery cycles, drain fully then fully charge, before he gets a clear picture of what the battery life would be?
TIA
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I update OTA last week on Verizon to Froyo 2.2. My battery was overheating and draining like crazy from my CPU usage being at a constant 99%..
I found the source of the problem. An app I use for facebook called "FLOW". The CPU usage was cut to 20% when I killed it with "Advanced Task Killer".
I resolved the issue by: Opening Flow.. going to Preferences.. Notification Settings.. Refresh Type.. Checked Periodic Polling (I was using Gmail Experimental previously)
Hope this helps...
I agree, the OTA froyo ED01 is worse for battery life. I get 5-8% per hour idle drain, which is way too high. I've been try to track down the issue with spare parts, system pannel, and battery details. So far I can't see any specific issue.
There are so many hoops to jump through just to get this phone working normally. It's really insanity that we should have to bust our butts on software bugs. And this isn't even mentioning the totally slow choppy ass browser in 2.2. (Vibrant browser on 2.2 SO much better)
Overall my urge to flush this POS down the toilet is growing every day.
Not battery life.
Today i noticed my battery meter has been sticking, any way to fix that? It'll drop 20% upon reboot.
Today i noticed that my battery would spike up from 95% to 100% while charging and not go anywhere in between,. Is that normal? Battery calibration app kept going off early, and then as soon as it hit 100% i unplugged it without calibrating it, and it dropped to 99%. Happened twice in five minutes.
Also, instead of using clockwork recovery, i use Battery Calibration app to wipe my batt stats.
What mV should i be on?
One last thing, how do you bump charge? And is it really that unsafe?
Nikolai2.1 said:
Not battery life.
Today i noticed my battery meter has been sticking, any way to fix that? It'll drop 20% upon reboot.
Today i noticed that my battery would spike up from 95% to 100% while charging and not go anywhere in between,. Is that normal? Battery calibration app kept going off early, and then as soon as it hit 100% i unplugged it without calibrating it, and it dropped to 99%. Happened twice in five minutes.
Also, instead of using clockwork recovery, i use Battery Calibration app to wipe my batt stats.
What mV should i be on?
One last thing, how do you bump charge? And is it really that unsafe?
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I noticed this yesterday, I had my phone plugged in and it was at 94-95% and 2 minutes later it was at 100%.
To bump charge, once your phone is at 100%, unplug your phone power it down then replug it in. Once it shows the green LED meaning 100% charged boot your phone up and keep it plugged in. Might go back to being orange saying its not 100% yet so let it get to 100%. Unplug it and replug it back in a couple times until every time you plug it in it shows green for 100%.
I would think that it would be bad for the battery if you do this every day, but I can't give a definite answer for that. I use Battery Calibration to do that too, but between today and yesterday after I flashed over the new CDMA/LTE radio leak from the Radio thread my battery life hasn't been great. Considering going back to the stock radio.
I've noticed similar things on my bolt and even my dinc. To counteract this, I stopped looking at the battery % and got battery left instead. This app tells you how much longer your battery will last in hours rather than %. I no longer freak out about my battery life, %, or what others are getting; I've never been happier.
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I've noticed similar things on my bolt and even my dinc. To counteract this, I stopped looking at the battery % and got battery left instead. This app tells you how much longer your battery will last in hours rather than %. I no longer freak out about my battery life, %, or what others are getting; I've never been happier.
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Sounds like a good idea especially for me lol. I noticed this morning that my phone was 56%, down from 74%. 18% drain over the time span of like 6-7 hours or so while I was sleeping. Not sure how good or bad that is, but for me it was just like wow.
You're being anal. Don't worry about it. Your phone is working fine. The battery level will appear to jump around a bit, especially when going on/off charger, or rebooting. Search around if you feel a need to know why.
One of the worst things you can do to a lithium battery is discharge it completely. They don't suffer from "memory" yet every time someone here in the forums complains that they are getting crappy battery life the instruction to discharge and recharge to 100% before clearing stats pops up.
For those who are interested here is an article that explains in detail.
batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/how_to_prolong_lithium_based_batteries
My main question- Is there some function in android that looks at the maximum depth of discharge level of the battery or is it that most people don't understand the characteristics of L-ion and confuse them with those of Ni-Mh or Ni-Cad?
I want to know because if I need to completely discharge to get better perfomance, despite the reduction in charge cycle lifetime, I will do it but only infrequently.
I've only let my battery discharge completely once, and it wasn't on purpose. From the posts I see here I think I get above average battery life. About 18 hours miui before I go for the charger and on 2.2 roms I'd get 20 hours and still have 40% or so to go. So no I don't think completely discharging your battery does anything for battery life.
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I have never run mine down completely. Gotten it to about 6% but that was because I was fighting ROM flashing problems. I usually call 25-30% enough for me and plug in then. I am also getting 30 hours out of my 2.2 with a good deal of use. I used to have a Motorola and their batteries are total crap. If you EVER let it get down below 10%, it took some real work for it to charge correctly and boot up. Even as much as a hardware mod where I have had to cut the wires on a USB charge cord and charge it rigged up with the wires pressed against the battery and prongs in the phone. Very dangerous, but worked for a last resort.
Discharging the battery is not for the sake of the battery,but more so for the ROMs data and how it acquires the battstats usage. I only run it up and down and clear stats when flashing a new ROM, but I do use my phone moderate to heavy daily and have had great success in battery life the way I calibrate it.
The solution I think is to use a larger capacity battery and regulate it to narrower window of operation never fully charging or discharging.
The fastest killer though seems to be heat.
I have read several times that your phone does not fully discharge the battery...that there is still a minimal amount of charge,not enough for the phone to opperate but enough to not damage the battery when it shuts down
Maybe the batterystats file can be saved after being calibrated once and then restored after every wipe oor flash.. that would save some time aabd according to you guys, batt life too
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I've only ever calibrated my a few times and only after flashing a new rom. I never run my battery down after resetting the stats. I just use my phone as I normally do. My understanding of calibration is that it's not about squeezing more life out of the battery despite what most people think but of getting a more accurate measurement of the battery's actual charge. Also while it's true that the phone will shut of before the battery is completely discharged damaging the battery, allowing the battery charge to drop that low shortens your battery's life and decreases the amount of charge your battery can hold.
What gets me is I also read somewhere that for optimum battery life you should keep your battery level somewhere between 70%-40%. Of course that doesn't stop me from charging my phone to 100% everyday. I don't remember where I found that article but I'll post a link if I can find it again.
The reason this bad advice about completely discharging your battery persists is probably the same reason people keep recommending automatic task killers.
batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/how_to_prolong_lithium_based_batteries
ok, ok ill volunter, ill watch porn till my battery"discharges" At least my log will be interesting
radiohd said:
One of the worst things you can do to a lithium battery is discharge it completely. They don't suffer from "memory" yet every time someone here in the forums complains that they are getting crappy battery life the instruction to discharge and recharge to 100% before clearing stats pops up.
For those who are interested here is an article that explains in detail.
batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/how_to_prolong_lithium_based_batteries
My main question- Is there some function in android that looks at the maximum depth of discharge level of the battery or is it that most people don't understand the characteristics of L-ion and confuse them with those of Ni-Mh or Ni-Cad?
I want to know because if I need to completely discharge to get better perfomance, despite the reduction in charge cycle lifetime, I will do it but only infrequently.
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Discharging the Battery & Running the Battery Dead is 2 Different things!
We recommend running the battery dead ( Phone Shuts Off ) & recharging while off to train the Android OS from Full > Empty..
Running the Phone until Dead is not Going to hurt the Battery in anyways shape or form despite what you may think or read!
The Reason is, the battery is never fully Discharge & still holds Voltage.. The Calculations of Charged / Dead is at the Kernel Level, so even when dead it still has a 3.4v still or roughly..
As long as the kernel isn't tampered with, discharging the battery via the Phone will never hurt the battery period!
Now, Based on the link you posted you would have to run the battery down past the safe discharge point.. Via some other means of killing the battery, other than using the Phone.
To help ease your mind, Remember this:
~ Charge levels is controlled by the kernel
~ Even when Phone powers off, there is still plenty of charge in the Phone's Battery
~ Battery is never Fully charged, as this also hurts lithium batteries
Roughly every Android kernel does not let lithium battery get below 3.4v and at most 96% charged.
Hope this helps,
~Eugene
If you are still concerned wait until your phone turns off and stick your battery on a meter. You will see there is still power left in it...
My original battery that came with the phone got great life, then couple of months later it was discharging in like 2-4 hrs(froyo), so I called, they sent another one free...5-6 months later that one started doing it as well, so I pulled out the old one from the drawer, it powered on at like 85% ! and I was getting crazy ass life out of it on miui over 30 hrs one time...now that one is acting up again, so I'm going to try to swap again..lol...maybe there's something to not using them for a while...
I've used diff roms and combinations of draining/recharging...calibrating, not calibrating...it's always different results..honestly I don't think there's any rhyme or reason to it other than the fact that many vibrants have diff hardware and there will always be some weird quirk on a per user basis...
As far as hurting it by draining it all the way, I hardly think that's the case seeing as with both batteries I've always let it run down...not on purpose but there has been many many times I've plugged in at 1% or had to power back on because it died...charged it up and got 20-30hrs no prob..usually issues come up when flashing a new rom...
i think it all comes down to luck of the draw. ive had my vibrant since launch day, and i still manage great battery life. my battery is actually stamped 7-02-2010. every 2 weeks or so ill drain the battery completely, turn it back on and allow itself to die again, and finally allow it to fully charge overnight or 4 hours. i usually get a good 7-8 hours of constant use on cm7, or over 24hours if let on standby.
im still debating if i want to grab an epic 4g touch battery as well to increase it even more.
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im still debating if i want to grab an epic 4g touch battery as well to increase it even more.
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what's this about?
Epic 4g batteries are 1800 and fit in our vibes.
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what's this about?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1262035
in there they tested in a store since the epic 4g touch battery fit into a regular epic 4g, if it would fit into a vibrant. only thing is you have to put the battery in facing inside, and it fits and works 100%
Yeah the Epic 4G batteries fit in our Vibrant's. You can buy knock-off one's (that work well) for 19.99$ US! Here's a thread about it...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1316492
Epic touch battery for the win. I've been rocking it for a few weeks. I was on miui and getting 14-16hrs. I recently went back to froyo and yesterday I got 12hrs off of a 67% charge.
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dont know if people have seen this article but i thought it was pretty interesting about the battery stats file not actually needing to be deleted...
http://www.androidcentral.com/wiping-battery-stats-doesnt-improve-battery-life-says-google-engineer
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dont know if people have seen this article but i thought it was pretty interesting about the battery stats file not actually needing to be deleted...
http://www.androidcentral.com/wiping-battery-stats-doesnt-improve-battery-life-says-google-engineer
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Lol one of the biggest flukes in our forum haha.. people will harm their battery to calibrate it and it doesn't even do anything ...
Thank god I only calibrated once
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I'm very new to rooting and custom ROMs and such and was just able flash the Serendipity 9.4 ROM to my AT&T Galaxy S2. I like it a lot so far, but the battery life seems to be a bit poor
I was on a full charge and did some light internet.browsing for about 24 minutes and discharged 10 percent of my battery already. Is this normal? If not, are there any solutions to this? Any help would be greatly appreciated!
I would say that should probably drain around 5% of your battery unless you were watching videos or something heavy like that. I would recommend you do a battery recalibration and maybe a charge cycle or two to improve your battery life:
Charge your phone to 100%
Reset Battery Stats (CWM > Advanced > Wipe Battery Stats)
Let it drain to 0%
Charge back up to 100%
You should see battery life improvements.
Thanks! I'll give it a shot and see how it goes.
Resetting battery stats does nothing on the sgs2. There are many posts about this here on xda. Give your device a few charge cycles after a fresh flash...typically you should start seeing decent battery life after about 3 cycles...
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When you say to give it a few charge cycles, do you mean fully drain the battery and then fully recharge it, etc? I'm very new to all of this lol. I have 3 batteries that I swap in and out as well, should I just stick to 1 for the time being?
basically use it a couple days. You don't have to let it die and in fact I've heard it's actually not good for the battery to kill it all the way, but to instead partially charge once it reaches a certain level like 20% or something like that. don't know how true that is. Either way, give it a few days.
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Hey guys,
I have had my Galaxy S2 for over a year now. I have not always had great battery life but I blame that on my providers ****ty 3G connection.
My longest battery life I had on Hydra h2o ICS rom and that was about 2 days with 2.5h screen time. Those were the good old days.
Now I'm on Vanilla RB with the DorimanX kernel and am getting a little concerned if my battery could be failing me.
I have tried for some time now to get stable, good battery life on the JB ROMs and it doesn't seem to be working. This is my case:
I charge my phone at night and use it over the day. The past weeks my phone has really been heating up and the battery is draining to near-zero levels within 2 hours of screentime. For instance I was playing a game the other day for about an hour on and off and lost 70% of my battery. The thing is that when the battery drains this quickly it always seems to slowly increase as the day goes by and if this happens, the phone can hang for an hour or two on the last 2%.
This I find really strange and have tried numerous times recalibrating the battery and doing cycles and everything I have thought of. I don't have any strange wakelocks that can explain this drainage.
For instance my phone completely died on me this morning after rebooting it at 50% and it booted up with 1% left. I then took the battery out and waited a couple of minutes. In the process I checked the battery out and it smelled strange. I also thought i noticed a slight bulge on one of the flat sides of it. When I popped it back in and booted my phone it was at 13% and slowly increased to 22% before starting to discharge again.
What I'm wondering is if my battery is broken and I should buy a new one of eBay?
edit: Right now I was charging it and rebooted. It went from 22% to 63%. Isn't this just a bit strange?
If you detect a slight bugle one side of the battery.
It means it is time to change the battery before it burst.
The battery is not hold a proper charge or discharge it properly, itr could be one of the filaments maybe damaged in the bulging area.
Okay, is there any aftermarket battery that is better than the stock Samsung one?
I also have the same problem after flashing on stock ROM. Solved with app "battery repair". Honestly it was not original (replacement) battery, but it still works well.
Do you Have a link?
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I presume you've done a battery calibration in between roms
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I presume you've done a battery calibration in between roms
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Yes, multiple calibration attempts.
But it's the bulge on the battery that has me concerned. It´s even ath the point where my back cover can't hold back anymore and sometimes comes loose where the battery is bulging.
One thing I'm noticing is that in AnTuTu Tester it shows the battery at higher voltages than the 3.7V on the back of the battery. So far I've noticed this go as high as 4.2V.
Is this something that is not ok? If not, could it be my phone or my battery's fault.
edit: 3.2V now during testing...
edit2: went all the way down to 2.7V during the testing (about an hour passed) and I experienced heavy screen flickering at around 22% left of battery and then the phone just shut down. Battery temp was at 39° right before shutdown.
Just recieved a new 1650 mAh battery today in the mail. Gonna give it a few cycles and post the results here.
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Do you Have a link?
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https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=air.ynfo.batteryrepair&hl=en
It's works for me, but not a panacea for all problems.