I'm very new to rooting and custom ROMs and such and was just able flash the Serendipity 9.4 ROM to my AT&T Galaxy S2. I like it a lot so far, but the battery life seems to be a bit poor
I was on a full charge and did some light internet.browsing for about 24 minutes and discharged 10 percent of my battery already. Is this normal? If not, are there any solutions to this? Any help would be greatly appreciated!
I would say that should probably drain around 5% of your battery unless you were watching videos or something heavy like that. I would recommend you do a battery recalibration and maybe a charge cycle or two to improve your battery life:
Charge your phone to 100%
Reset Battery Stats (CWM > Advanced > Wipe Battery Stats)
Let it drain to 0%
Charge back up to 100%
You should see battery life improvements.
Thanks! I'll give it a shot and see how it goes.
Resetting battery stats does nothing on the sgs2. There are many posts about this here on xda. Give your device a few charge cycles after a fresh flash...typically you should start seeing decent battery life after about 3 cycles...
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When you say to give it a few charge cycles, do you mean fully drain the battery and then fully recharge it, etc? I'm very new to all of this lol. I have 3 batteries that I swap in and out as well, should I just stick to 1 for the time being?
basically use it a couple days. You don't have to let it die and in fact I've heard it's actually not good for the battery to kill it all the way, but to instead partially charge once it reaches a certain level like 20% or something like that. don't know how true that is. Either way, give it a few days.
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So I was one of those who was finding my battery life to not be sufficient on the Photon and bought the Seidio extended battery. First thought is that it does make the phone heavier, but I can deal with that. Not a deal breaker.
My issue is that the Photon doesn't recognize the fact that I now have the extended battery. I've spent the last two days using Battery calibration software (charging overnight to 100%) and then trying to discharge completely and recharge. The problem is that the phone continually is showing 1% for almost 3-4 hours if not longer. I can't get it to recognize that there is more juice in there.
While it's great that it seems to be working well (first real work day with it today), having the battery drain like mad (or seemingly) and then sitting at 1% for half or more of the day and not knowing when it will die is a problem.
I wonder if this is why the stock seemed to drain so quickly - maybe it's a programming bug? Firmware bug? I dunno. In any event, any suggestions on how to make the phone actually see that there's more juice would be great.
As an FYI I've used "Battery Calibrator" - both of them and Battery Drainer and Fast Discharge to get the phone down. I am rooted, but everything is stock other then the root itself.
Thanks!
Rumor has it, that the latest software update decreases battery life. I have the latest update, (I understand that many have this issue updating, if you do, look it up in the forums, you will need to SBF the first version of software to your phone...), and my battery life could be a lot better, like it used to be.
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Well the issue now with the new battery isn't so much battery life. With the extended battery the life is stellar. This issue is that yesterday at about 3 in the afternoon the phone showed 1 percent battery life. Yet it didn't ever die. When i plugged it in last night before going to bed, at 1200, I still had 1 percent. So the issue is that the phone isn't properly recognizing the battery life itself.
Help?
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cubexg said:
Well the issue now with the new battery isn't so much battery life. With the extended battery the life is stellar. This issue is that yesterday at about 3 in the afternoon the phone showed 1 percent battery life. Yet it didn't ever die. When i plugged it in last night before going to bed, at 1200, I still had 1 percent. So the issue is that the phone isn't properly recognizing the battery life itself.
Help?
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I understand that you have used the battery calibration application, try installing CWM, ClockworkMod, after you root the phone. Drain the battery, charge to 100% boot up into CWM, and go to advanced, and clear battery stats...
If that doesn't work, then I could be the battery, or the phone itself. See if any other members have any insight.
Can't change bootloader on photon without breaking 4g as far as I know. Will crosspost in main photon forum. Thanks!
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I'm on Axura 2.2.7.2 and have horrible battery life no matter what battery I use.
For example, my battery percent is at 63% right now:
4h 48m 38s since unplugged
Display 90%
WiFi 5%
Cell Standby 3%
Phone idle :1%
The weird thing is that I don't really use it a lot either. I used it for maybe 20 minutes max. Talked on the phone for 5 minutes, made about 10 texts, and checked the time from my phone thats it.
Also, I'm using Zeam launcher, could that be the problem?
Please give me some tips on how to maximize my battery life.
You have to calibrate your battery. Download Battery Calibration from the market first, then kill your phone all to like 5%. Charge your phone all the way up to 100%
Then click on the calibrate button on the Battery Calibration app. You should be good after that. Make sure your unplug after calibrating and die the phone down again, and then charge is back to 100%
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please go to settings / about phone / battery use and post what is consuming most of your battery so we can help u better knowing what the problem is.
there are a lot of ways of improving battery. the best 4 me so far is a custom kernel that allows undervolting which helps a lot without affecting performance. underclocking if u want to go the extra mile, and lowering brightness helps too since our screens are battery hogs.
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Battery Life Help
Under Volting does not work for me...Making sure I run the battery down all the way and charge it full most of the time especially after deleting battery stats.
One of the worst things you can do to a lithium battery is discharge it completely. They don't suffer from "memory" yet every time someone here in the forums complains that they are getting crappy battery life the instruction to discharge and recharge to 100% before clearing stats pops up.
For those who are interested here is an article that explains in detail.
batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/how_to_prolong_lithium_based_batteries
My main question- Is there some function in android that looks at the maximum depth of discharge level of the battery or is it that most people don't understand the characteristics of L-ion and confuse them with those of Ni-Mh or Ni-Cad?
I want to know because if I need to completely discharge to get better perfomance, despite the reduction in charge cycle lifetime, I will do it but only infrequently.
I've only let my battery discharge completely once, and it wasn't on purpose. From the posts I see here I think I get above average battery life. About 18 hours miui before I go for the charger and on 2.2 roms I'd get 20 hours and still have 40% or so to go. So no I don't think completely discharging your battery does anything for battery life.
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I have never run mine down completely. Gotten it to about 6% but that was because I was fighting ROM flashing problems. I usually call 25-30% enough for me and plug in then. I am also getting 30 hours out of my 2.2 with a good deal of use. I used to have a Motorola and their batteries are total crap. If you EVER let it get down below 10%, it took some real work for it to charge correctly and boot up. Even as much as a hardware mod where I have had to cut the wires on a USB charge cord and charge it rigged up with the wires pressed against the battery and prongs in the phone. Very dangerous, but worked for a last resort.
Discharging the battery is not for the sake of the battery,but more so for the ROMs data and how it acquires the battstats usage. I only run it up and down and clear stats when flashing a new ROM, but I do use my phone moderate to heavy daily and have had great success in battery life the way I calibrate it.
The solution I think is to use a larger capacity battery and regulate it to narrower window of operation never fully charging or discharging.
The fastest killer though seems to be heat.
I have read several times that your phone does not fully discharge the battery...that there is still a minimal amount of charge,not enough for the phone to opperate but enough to not damage the battery when it shuts down
Maybe the batterystats file can be saved after being calibrated once and then restored after every wipe oor flash.. that would save some time aabd according to you guys, batt life too
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I've only ever calibrated my a few times and only after flashing a new rom. I never run my battery down after resetting the stats. I just use my phone as I normally do. My understanding of calibration is that it's not about squeezing more life out of the battery despite what most people think but of getting a more accurate measurement of the battery's actual charge. Also while it's true that the phone will shut of before the battery is completely discharged damaging the battery, allowing the battery charge to drop that low shortens your battery's life and decreases the amount of charge your battery can hold.
What gets me is I also read somewhere that for optimum battery life you should keep your battery level somewhere between 70%-40%. Of course that doesn't stop me from charging my phone to 100% everyday. I don't remember where I found that article but I'll post a link if I can find it again.
The reason this bad advice about completely discharging your battery persists is probably the same reason people keep recommending automatic task killers.
batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/how_to_prolong_lithium_based_batteries
ok, ok ill volunter, ill watch porn till my battery"discharges" At least my log will be interesting
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One of the worst things you can do to a lithium battery is discharge it completely. They don't suffer from "memory" yet every time someone here in the forums complains that they are getting crappy battery life the instruction to discharge and recharge to 100% before clearing stats pops up.
For those who are interested here is an article that explains in detail.
batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/how_to_prolong_lithium_based_batteries
My main question- Is there some function in android that looks at the maximum depth of discharge level of the battery or is it that most people don't understand the characteristics of L-ion and confuse them with those of Ni-Mh or Ni-Cad?
I want to know because if I need to completely discharge to get better perfomance, despite the reduction in charge cycle lifetime, I will do it but only infrequently.
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Discharging the Battery & Running the Battery Dead is 2 Different things!
We recommend running the battery dead ( Phone Shuts Off ) & recharging while off to train the Android OS from Full > Empty..
Running the Phone until Dead is not Going to hurt the Battery in anyways shape or form despite what you may think or read!
The Reason is, the battery is never fully Discharge & still holds Voltage.. The Calculations of Charged / Dead is at the Kernel Level, so even when dead it still has a 3.4v still or roughly..
As long as the kernel isn't tampered with, discharging the battery via the Phone will never hurt the battery period!
Now, Based on the link you posted you would have to run the battery down past the safe discharge point.. Via some other means of killing the battery, other than using the Phone.
To help ease your mind, Remember this:
~ Charge levels is controlled by the kernel
~ Even when Phone powers off, there is still plenty of charge in the Phone's Battery
~ Battery is never Fully charged, as this also hurts lithium batteries
Roughly every Android kernel does not let lithium battery get below 3.4v and at most 96% charged.
Hope this helps,
~Eugene
If you are still concerned wait until your phone turns off and stick your battery on a meter. You will see there is still power left in it...
My original battery that came with the phone got great life, then couple of months later it was discharging in like 2-4 hrs(froyo), so I called, they sent another one free...5-6 months later that one started doing it as well, so I pulled out the old one from the drawer, it powered on at like 85% ! and I was getting crazy ass life out of it on miui over 30 hrs one time...now that one is acting up again, so I'm going to try to swap again..lol...maybe there's something to not using them for a while...
I've used diff roms and combinations of draining/recharging...calibrating, not calibrating...it's always different results..honestly I don't think there's any rhyme or reason to it other than the fact that many vibrants have diff hardware and there will always be some weird quirk on a per user basis...
As far as hurting it by draining it all the way, I hardly think that's the case seeing as with both batteries I've always let it run down...not on purpose but there has been many many times I've plugged in at 1% or had to power back on because it died...charged it up and got 20-30hrs no prob..usually issues come up when flashing a new rom...
i think it all comes down to luck of the draw. ive had my vibrant since launch day, and i still manage great battery life. my battery is actually stamped 7-02-2010. every 2 weeks or so ill drain the battery completely, turn it back on and allow itself to die again, and finally allow it to fully charge overnight or 4 hours. i usually get a good 7-8 hours of constant use on cm7, or over 24hours if let on standby.
im still debating if i want to grab an epic 4g touch battery as well to increase it even more.
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im still debating if i want to grab an epic 4g touch battery as well to increase it even more.
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what's this about?
Epic 4g batteries are 1800 and fit in our vibes.
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what's this about?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1262035
in there they tested in a store since the epic 4g touch battery fit into a regular epic 4g, if it would fit into a vibrant. only thing is you have to put the battery in facing inside, and it fits and works 100%
Yeah the Epic 4G batteries fit in our Vibrant's. You can buy knock-off one's (that work well) for 19.99$ US! Here's a thread about it...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1316492
Epic touch battery for the win. I've been rocking it for a few weeks. I was on miui and getting 14-16hrs. I recently went back to froyo and yesterday I got 12hrs off of a 67% charge.
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dont know if people have seen this article but i thought it was pretty interesting about the battery stats file not actually needing to be deleted...
http://www.androidcentral.com/wiping-battery-stats-doesnt-improve-battery-life-says-google-engineer
jonen said:
dont know if people have seen this article but i thought it was pretty interesting about the battery stats file not actually needing to be deleted...
http://www.androidcentral.com/wiping-battery-stats-doesnt-improve-battery-life-says-google-engineer
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Lol one of the biggest flukes in our forum haha.. people will harm their battery to calibrate it and it doesn't even do anything ...
Thank god I only calibrated once
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So I have just flashed the CM7 ICS Themed BETA, wiping everything.
I then charged to 100 percent, and used Battery Calibration app.
I have just setup some apps, and I have lost 10% battery life in 40 minutes
Display is using 85% battery life apparently.
Please help?
It can take up to a week to fully calibrate the battery. Since the battery doesn't have memory the phone has to get a feel for how much juice it actually has. Try it for a few days running the battery down and then charging it to full without unplugging. If that doesn't work you might want to try charging all the way then reflashing and immediately do a calibration.
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Yeah, I'd calibrate the battery - wouldn't hurt.
Ideally always flash on a 100 % full battery to avoid problems like yours..
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Ideally always flash on a 100 % full battery to avoid problems like yours..
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Cheers guys I've taken this all on board.
I'm on 13hrs on battery, its showing 16pc. Battery calibration app shows 3609mv however. This doesn't seem right to me. Am I correct in assuming the phones battery power is the mv listed and no battery is more like 100mv??
Could anyone explain the 'mv' term to me?
Is 0mv when it powers down? Is this indicative of power?
Thanks.
Lithium ion batteries never fully discharge. If they did the battery would not recharge again.
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mv referers to mV, as in Milivolt. Most li-ion batteries are rated at 3.7V or 3700mV. A nominal full charge should be around 4.2V or 4200mV.
dLockers said:
So I have just flashed the CM7 ICS Themed BETA, wiping everything.
I then charged to 100 percent, and used Battery Calibration app.
I have just setup some apps, and I have lost 10% battery life in 40 minutes
Display is using 85% battery life apparently.
Please help?
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That's 35 minutes of active use. 10% isn't outside the realm of the possible.
I usually can go a full day on 60% battery, but this morning Facebook, the interwebs and text messaging put me from 100% to 77% in the course of 30 minutes. Draining 10% in 45 minutes does not seem out of the realm of possibility
I get mine to last around 20-26 hrs on a single charge, of course depending on use. but i hardly leave the house and dont use it a whole lot. One thing to make sure of is setting up profiles on SetCPU and/or undervolting. i just posted my setup on another thread. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=20284361&postcount=28
so after you clicked the battery calibration button and it said calibration successful, you're wondering why the battery is dropping so fast under use right away?
Easy answer my friend, when you first use the battery calibration app, the first cycle (when phone is being used) will always drain a lot faster than the 2nd and 3rd time around.
The battery calibration app, wipes the battery stats, and makes a new one, however that does take at least 1 - 2 times of a full charge/discharge of the battery. There is a battery tread in the atrix general forum i believe for cailbration steps, etc to go about successfully doing a complete calibration when flashing from rom to rom.
Hope this helped
Hmm, maybe I am just upset that I have to charge every night.
Coming from a BlackBerry 9780 I could go 2 days with semi-heavy use.
I am now using the official Motorola cable, and only charging from very low to full.
Thank you for the advice.
dLockers said:
So I have just flashed the CM7 ICS Themed BETA, wiping everything.
I then charged to 100 percent, and used Battery Calibration app.
I have just setup some apps, and I have lost 10% battery life in 40 minutes
Display is using 85% battery life apparently.
Please help?
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Try getting one of these:
4800mah extended battery
1900mah extended battery
Problem Solved.
Bluetooth radio was killing my battery. WiFi is fine leaving it on as it disables in stand by, but bluetooth was absolutely draining everything.
thanks for the update
I agree, 10% loss in 40 minutes of active usage is not bad. If the OP had better battery life before he flashed to new ICS themed CM7 beta rom, maybe the new rom is to blame??? I'd OC/UV, possibly with the latest faux123 kernel.
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Problem Solved.
Bluetooth radio was killing my battery. WiFi is fine leaving it on as it disables in stand by, but bluetooth was absolutely draining everything.
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Thanks for the tip!!!
What is everyone's battery life on this phone? 55 minutes in with light use I'm down to 75%
My phone is rooted so not sure if that matters, waiting on someone to allow LTE to be switched off
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I haven't done any objective tests (too busy playing with it) but mine has been great. I'm rooted and overclocked. I've enabled the lowest power stepping, my battery power has been phenomenonal and getting better. Inverted apps, dark themes, great deep idle and a massive stock battery I fully expect the g -note to shape up as a new standard in phone battery life.
You've must have something, a background service, something like that, and it is chewing up your electrons. Have you checked your battery stats? If you can't find a power thief return it, or at least exchange the battery. With millions of batteries there has got to be a few bad ones. Until then, can you post a battery usage graph?
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I've always found it wise to run the battery to full charge/complete discharge a time or two to calibrate the battery
When I got my skyrocket new, I drained the battery down to 20% in 5 hours, then it took another 5 hours to drain that. Afterwards, the battery "appeared" to last longer. Today is my "kill the battery" day.
I've always read the Li-Ion batteries work best at 40% capacity. Not sure why, but I would think that the meter is highly inaccurate at the upper and lower ends of the readings.