Can you guys list the pros and cons of using a taskiller because I've been hearing that its bad for your phone.
Comments will be greatly appreciated.
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I don't use ATK, try System Panel.. paid app. brilliant.
Starting with android 2.2 the task killers are useless
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use AutoKiller memory management. It isn't really a normal task killer but selectively raise the kill priority value (oom) of most apps so the OS kills them sooner. Since it is just an interface for changing values and wont run in the background it wont drain battery or CPU. You can also open the app and manually kill apps if you need to.
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CMoney87 said:
use AutoKiller memory management. It isn't really a normal task killer but selectively raise the kill priority value (oom) of most apps so the OS kills them sooner. Since it is just an interface for changing values and wont run in the background it wont drain battery or CPU. You can also open the app and manually kill apps if you need to.
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What were your memory limits set at?
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I dont bother with any of that stuff anymore.
The 2.2 ROM i am running at the moment does all that for me. Well almost. 2.3 did that even better when i ran that rom by rdanner.
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If you used the search button, you would have found this: [Q] Task Manager/Killer Apps - Good or Bad after 2.1 update for X10?
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What were your memory limits set at?
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I use 150,200,250 as the last 3 settings and it works perfectly for me. Some people think those values are too high and could cause problems with some widgets but it never changed the values of any widget dependant services for me and I havent had any problem in at least 3-4 months of usage.
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If you got AutoKiller and havent figured it out yet you can press the processes tab at the top to see a list of all running apps, just click one to kill it. This will also show the oom value for each as well as which is the kill priority value. The higher the oom value the higher the priority to kill it when the system needs to recoup ram, the lower the value the less likely it is to be killed. Ive noticed that even with the high values I use, any process or service that relates to the system functions or widgets I have has a value that hasnt changed and remains at 1 or even in the negatives.
Despite what people say I have had instances where I need to kill apps that get hung up (like the browser sometimes and every once in a while a root app gets stuck while verifying permissions) and the OS wont kill it automatically, so I do use it to kill apps occasionally.
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Does anybody use this app? If yes what is ur config. ? Mine is set at moderate for now since idk what im doing.
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And you are using a task killer/ram optimization app why? Android will kill apps when RAM is low, and why would you need so much free ram?
Please correct me if I misunderstood though. Some devs prefer strict though I believe.
XPLANE9 said:
And you are using a task killer/ram optimization app why? Android will kill apps when RAM is low, and why would you need so much free ram?
Please correct me if I misunderstood though. Some devs prefer strict though I believe.
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This isn't like task killer app... its not like once of those app u click kill all apps.
I'm just trying apps to get the best battry life out of my phone.
This app actually tweak stuffs unlike other apps. It helps u to get the battery life out of your phone I believe, if you can use it right.
So I was just asking if anyone is using this app and getting better battery life
Im just going to delete this app for now since I don't know how to use it and its draining my battery. If anyone is getting better battery life when using custom roms with it let me know.
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XPLANE9 said:
And you are using a task killer/ram optimization app why? Android will kill apps when RAM is low, and why would you need so much free ram?
Please correct me if I misunderstood though. Some devs prefer strict though I believe.
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its his phone to do with as he pleases...but to answer your question, some apps continuously run in the background (even after you "close" them), and there is absolutely no need for them. They chew up RAM and battery. I use a moderate combination of AutoMemory Optimizer, AutoStarts, and a conventional task killer. I keep my RAM squeaky clean cause thats how i want it. I dont like my OS waiting for it to get to an unnecessary low point before it starts "killing"
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Does anybody use this app? If yes what is ur config. ? Mine is set at moderate for now since idk what im doing.
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its his phone to do with as he pleases...but to answer your question, some apps continuously run in the background (even after you "close" them), and there is absolutely no need for them. They chew up RAM and battery. I use a moderate combination of AutoMemory Optimizer, AutoStarts, and a conventional task killer. I keep my RAM squeaky clean cause thats how i want it. I dont like my OS waiting for it to get to an unnecessary low point before it starts "killing"
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Thank you
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Does anybody use this app? If yes what is ur config. ? Mine is set at moderate for now since idk what im doing.
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Auto killer ... is a tool used to enhance android's internal memory manager ... Unlike its name its not a task killer .. again you can use it to tell android when and how much memory to reclaim ..... I use the preset 'aggressive ', but to fully understand the settings I would suggest you go the the dev's website, he has a lot of useful info on there .....
dan0zone said:
Auto killer ... is a tool used to enhance android's internal memory manager ... Unlike its name its not a task killer .. again you can use it to tell android when and how much memory to reclaim ..... I use the preset 'aggressive ', but to fully understand the settings I would suggest you go the the dev's website, he has a lot of useful info on there .....
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Thanks I will definitely check it out. But are you getting more battery life out of it?
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Thanks I will definitely check it out. But are you getting more battery life out of it?
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one will argue that it saves battery my limiting application runtime. another will argue that it takes up more battery because the app keeps starting and stopping. Thats why you should always use a program like "Autostarts", which prevents certain apps from EVER opening in situations that they dont need to be open. If youre getting into task management, that should be your first step before anything else, cause that DOES save your battery.
Is anyone having issues/know how to fix root apps hanging? It only happens with root apps but I open them and they are just a black screen, so I wait and eventually force close. I think all my root apps have done this at least once, but mainly have problems with:
CPU Spy. 8/10 hangs.
Autokiller memory optimizer 2/10 hangs
Set CPU 1/10 hangs
Use about 8 others but they have only done this maybe 1/100 so not too much bother.
Am wondering if its something to do with superuser apk.
CPU spy is really bugging me, any help/advice much appreciated.
Edit: CPU spy works fine once I get it going, until I reboot, then it gives me grief again.
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First when you root your x10 you need to restart your x10 before rooting any app.
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Is anyone having issues/know how to fix root apps hanging? It only happens with root apps but I open them and they are just a black screen, so I wait and eventually force close. I think all my root apps have done this at least once, but mainly have problems with:
CPU Spy. 8/10 hangs.
Autokiller memory optimizer 2/10 hangs
Set CPU 1/10 hangs
Use about 8 others but they have only done this maybe 1/100 so not too much bother.
Am wondering if its something to do with superuser apk.
CPU spy is really bugging me, any help/advice much appreciated.
Edit: CPU spy works fine once I get it going, until I reboot, then it gives me grief again.
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What is your phone running at the moment, a ROM or SE Firmware? And your baseband, so I can figure out your problem better.
Did you overclock with set cpu, that can mess up things?
Am running wolfs v006 with custom kernel, however these apps used to hang before I installed new kernel. So yeah I use overclock, but only last couple of days and had this problem like forever lol. Same issue on Z's freex10 beta 4.
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I have an idea that is a slight idea, how about you reflash the ROM and not put any modifying system apps on the phone and carefully watch which apps you put on the phone.
Did you do a nandroid flash back up to restore your settings in the ROM? Also, did you properly wipe full system, all caches before flashing the ROM? This could of been your issue too.
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Yeah I have backups for about 4 different roms so that's no prob. I think its autokiller doing it tho, will uninstall all root apps and try one by one.
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Was set CPU. Now using CPU master its all fine, and am saving about 5-10 seconds off my boot time. Guess it wasn't working well with my setup!
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Was set CPU. Now using CPU master its all fine, and am saving about 5-10 seconds off my boot time. Guess it wasn't working well with my setup!
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Glad you figured your problem out.
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What is the best auto app killer Facebook always continues to run in the background using 10 to 40% CPU I need an application that will kill it as soon as my screen goes off
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I actually stopped using auto app killers about 5 months ago after reading several articles on how the android operating system works. I would suggest maybe just using task manager to kill it when yer done with it?
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That's a pain Especially since I'm not supposed to be on my phone at work and that's just one more thing I would have to do an more chance of getting caught
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Advanced Task Killer seem to work well for me.
So been a time i always woundered why so many apps start without me calling them? Also why do they appear on afvanced task killer app and not the phone one? And still why they open or whatever if i dont call them. It fcks battery life -.-
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Background tasks have their life of themselves, use auto memory manager to limit them, or autostarts to block them.
These are freewares and can be found at google play.
Can you name some good ones? They need to be running?
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In general, just stop those apps that you dont want running in the background and let the system apps stay as they are.
But can you tell me the name of those programs? The best please.
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I just did?
QNBT said:
Background tasks have their life of themselves, use auto memory manager to limit them, or autostarts to block them.
These are freewares and can be found at google play.
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There is no noticeable battery drain with such apps running because they don't use CPU time. Stopping the processes however forces app or process restart which take up some CPU time, and drain your battery more than if you just left it there.
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There is no noticeable battery drain with such apps running because they don't use CPU time. Stopping the processes however forces app or process restart which take up some CPU time, and drain your battery more than if you just left it there.
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Just about to say this
The processes can use memory but the android system could stop them if it was running out. Make sure there isn't processes of apps you arnt using, uninstall these.
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Yeah, google drive, accuweather always there even though i click the exit button
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Yeah, google drive, accuweather always there even though i click the exit button
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Google drive never runs for me. Try turning off the sync for it. Then it will just sync manually.
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There is no noticeable battery drain with such apps running because they don't use CPU time. Stopping the processes however forces app or process restart which take up some CPU time, and drain your battery more than if you just left it there.
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This is true, which is why I recommended autostarts, prevent it instead!
But a reason why background tasks matter is that they tend to hog up ram, which leads to slower performance.
Kinda irritating to load the pages again. Any ideas?
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It's all about ram. If you have 512 mb and running ICS or JB, just forget it..1 gb would be just ok, if you don't open much apps. You can set priority of apps in some tasks manager, maybe system tuner? Never tried... Waiting for the galaxy note with 2 gb!
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Well. My iPad 2 with 512ram doesn't do this.. So I assume it's the os.
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Well. My iPad 2 with 512ram doesn't do this.. So I assume it's the os.
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I cannot see which device the question was for, but it depend MANY things, still ram is first.
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I cannot see which device the question was for, but it depend MANY things, still ram is first.
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For the s3 using dolphin.
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It's kinda weird that my s3 which has twice the ram of my ipad has not enough ram...
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Mine does this also, using s3 with stock browser. My HOX does it too. Annoying
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I assume its the OS just closing inactive background tasks no? Cant be ram issues...
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Kinda irritating to load the pages again. Any ideas?
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Have you tried long pressing on the home button to selecting the browser from there?
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Have you tried long pressing on the home button to selecting the browser from there?
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Ah not yet...
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Still doesn't work. Pages still have to reload after inactive for a while.
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Android is a totally different operating system than iOs (and also requires more Ram for itself)
It runs a lot of tasks in the background unlike iOs, which makes it a lot more adaptable and flexible but also more resource-intensive.
Secondly apps are categorized in groups, which are then consecutively killed based on their OOM (Out of memory) score, the lowest group being "empty app" and regrouping all apps that are no longer being needed. Typically "empty" is killed when there are 90MB left (customizable if rooted).
First off you may want to check what eats your Ram (Java is one of the worst languages for Ram in the entire universe) and kill/freeze/remove those processes.
Then take a look into zRam for extended Ram (swap) and set swappiness to 99
There once were experimental patches that forced selected tasks into swap instead of killing them but since they were hooked right into memory management, that used up lots of Cpu cycles and caused strange behaviours - sadly.
Btw, needing 1Gig for Ics or Jb is just bollocks. Galaxy S1's run awesome under Ics and even such devices as the 256MB Ace get a lot better.
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How do I customize the thing? The part where you say I need to be rooted.
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Its only reload if you closed it on tasks
So dont do it
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when you want to leave the browser in the background do you press back button or home? I have the experience with facebook app that if i press back than when i get back to the app it reloads as if i closed it, but if i press home then come back to the app it's there as i left it. As to the browser can't really say anything as I use maxthon browser and don't usually have reloading problems.
One such app is "Advanced tools".
However it is strictly recommend to leave those values alone unless you REALLY know what you are doing since tweaking these values without any knowledge will only worsen the problem or make your phone more or less unusuable with lag.
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Its only reload if you closed it on tasks
So dont do it
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No it doesn't.. It somehow auto closes. I've read somewhere android auto closes inactive tasks.
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I've read somewhere android auto closes inactive tasks.
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No!!!
I explained a few posts earlier exactly when and how Android kills processes. Inactivity is a LRU factor but certainly not the trigger to kill an app.
Two words: v6supercharger,swap!
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Sorry to bump an old thread, but has anyone actually found a solution to this problem? I've tried supercharger, minfree manager, RAM manager pro, and Galaxy Tuner. None have proven to be an actual solution to the problem that seems to be baked right in to the heart of all versions of Android after eclair (I'm actually on the Epic, not the GS3).
Is this fixable or am I just chasing my tail on this one?
bill
UPDATE: Current list of things tried
- Supercharger/Bulletproof
- MinFree Manager
- RAM Manager Pro
- Galaxy Tuner
- "build.prop" trick
- "local.prop" trick
- Auto memory manager application