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I just bought a thunderbolt on impulse. This time yesterday I had no plan to do so, but I woke up on the wrong side of the bed I guess.
Love the phone thus far, though coming from an EVO I don't feel much difference beyond the speed of the device.
Does anyone know ways to improve tethering? Using the FCC speedtest app I am getting 5-7Mbps Down adn 20-30Mbps Up pings all around 100. On my tethered XOOM I am getting an impressive 4-6ish down, 3-6ish up with pings from 50-150.
The numbers when I started this thread were about 3 and 3 which still beats my evos 1 and 1 in optimal conditions. Thus far the Thunderbolt seems to connect to 4G instantly and unlike the EVO the stock tethering app is 4G friendly, but more to the point the 700mhz seems to be proving to be less placement centric. I can have it on a chair in the corner of the room under a desk and it seems to still get damn good speeds. Where I am used to putting my EVO on a windowsill and still wanting better signal.
All that aside, my point of this thread is, has anyone found tweaks that increase tethering performance? Are certain channels better, or does less/no encryption increase performance?
Bump. I know I can't be the only one who wants an answer to the best way to tether.
im new to verizon and read that they are able to detect tethering from rooted devices. nice that we have tethering now, but when the time limit runs out will tethering be possible? has anyone tethered on verizon before without issue? is tethering truly unlimited, or is there a cap/throttle?
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wrb123 said:
im new to verizon and read that they are able to detect tethering from rooted devices. nice that we have tethering now, but when the time limit runs out will tethering be possible? has anyone tethered on verizon before without issue? is tethering truly unlimited, or is there a cap/throttle?
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I've been tethering on my D1 for months and never been "detected". Tethered data looks like cell phone data to the provider. The only way I could see being detected is if the app you are using (the included one) sends some sort of flag. AFAIK the root wifi tether does nothing of the sort.
what are you guys using to tether? a 3rd party tethering app?
I've tethered heavily for at least 8 months on Incredible and Droid X. Never had an issue with detection. You will need root for third party app once root us achieved. Permanent root should come today. Then use app from market
wrb123 said:
im new to verizon and read that they are able to detect tethering from rooted devices. nice that we have tethering now, but when the time limit runs out will tethering be possible? has anyone tethered on verizon before without issue? is tethering truly unlimited, or is there a cap/throttle?
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hay112 said:
what are you guys using to tether? a 3rd party tethering app?
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Once you have root this program will let you use wifi to tether: http://code.google.com/p/android-wifi-tether/downloads/list
There is one in the market too, but I've never used it...
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Also been tethering for over a year on my Droid and have never had an issue with VZW. My highest month ever was only 4 gigs, I average around 1.5-2.
I think your reception issue is more in the higher quality of the VZW network compared to the lousy Sprint network your EVO is on. People don't like to admit it, but my friends on Sprint and AT&T all have spots in thier house where the phone only works, or works best, etc.... Verizon that is generally not an issue.
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I've been tethering on my D1 for months and never been "detected". Tethered data looks like cell phone data to the provider. The only way I could see being detected is if the app you are using (the included one) sends some sort of flag. AFAIK the root wifi tether does nothing of the sort.
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A bit off-topic here but I turned on MobileAP on Galaxy Tab (AT&T) so that I could check out the GTablet while I was @local officemax store, AT&T detects it and sent me email & SMS reminder that I will need to have a proper plan.
So yes, they should be able to detect.
or you could use easytether, and tether via usb. No root required.
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or you could use easytether, and tether via usb. No root required.
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It user browser string to detect web traffic :silly:
All of my roms have network speed tweaks that improve your tethering :good:
How can i get free wifi tethering on my att galaxy s2?
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How can i get free wifi tethering on my att galaxy s2?
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You can root it and use barnacle, or use the hotspot feature under the "wireless and network settings" if AT&T hasn't disabled it. I was planning on getting one earlier today, but wasn't able to get to the store before work.
Check the settings and see if "Tethering & portable hotspot" feature is there. If it is it will just use your regular data plan.
Ok thanks im going to just wait for a root to come out.
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wifi hotspot has not been disabled on my sgs2, not rooted
When I picked up my phone at AT&T they asked me if I wanted the family (?) tether plan for $45/mo. I said no. When I checked the phone at home, the tether option was there, so is it cool to tether the phone without getting a nasty gram?
brianlp said:
When I picked up my phone at AT&T they asked me if I wanted the family (?) tether plan for $45/mo. I said no. When I checked the phone at home, the tether option was there, so is it cool to tether the phone without getting a nasty gram?
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The moment you turn that on and start using it you will get a notice that you will need to change to that tether plan. Unless you get PDAnet or root the phone and use one of those apps.
I rooted , used Titanium Backup and froze tethering manager app, wifi tethering now works fine with my android tablet.
Bob
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rbtconsultants said:
I rooted , used Titanium Backup and froze tethering manager app, wifi tethering now works fine with my android tablet.
Bob
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Any link to rooting the AT&T version? Want to root and use the built in tether. As of now, when you try to use the tether it will say you need to have the tether option. Don't want to pay the extra for using it a few times a month.
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The moment you turn that on and start using it you will get a notice that you will need to change to that tether plan. Unless you get PDAnet or root the phone and use one of those apps.
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Yep, you're right. I just tried it.
I guess I root.
You need to root the phone and unintall the Tethering Manager in order to use the built-in tethering features without paying for it.
Just remember that a lot of people have been getting nastygrams from AT&T even without interference from tethering manager. There has been a lot of speculation as to the cause, but naive tethering is detectable in a number of ways, so don't be surprised if they suddenly decide to up your bill by $20.
Has anyone actually used Barnacle with this phone?
I rooted and installed Barnacle, which has to be downloaded from their site because it is blocked in Market. I start Barnacle and it has SU privilege, but no device can see the hotspot it creates. Even when I create the WiFi network there is no connection.
I'm having the same problem as far as my phone telling me I need a tethering plan. So I called At&t & they said I'd have to basically lose my grandfathered in plan of Unlimited just so I can surf the net for an extra $45 a mnth!! WTF!! I Didn't have this problem with my Cappy.. Wut to friggin do?? Can't root without Internet?? Someone please help a brother out!!
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goojman said:
I'm having the same problem as far as my phone telling me I need a tethering plan. So I called At&t & they said I'd have to basically lose my grandfathered in plan of Unlimited just so I can surf the net for an extra $45 a mnth!! WTF!! I Didn't have this problem with my Cappy.. Wut to friggin do?? Can't root without Internet?? Someone please help a brother out!!
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If you want to tether without paying for it, you have to root and freeze/remove tethering manager, or use a third-party app. Plus, you still risk AT&T slapping you with the overpriced tethering plan if they catch you. Not really sure there is anything you can do.
I figured as much. I never had a problem up til today when I got my new Gs2. I don't tether much at all to be honest with you. But at&t screwed me cause now I'm without Internet so I can't root even if I wanted to. I think I have no choice but to get a wireless Internet card til I root & find a decent ROM. Thanks a bunch for the advice though.. Much appreciated!!
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Cappy users are getting nailed right and left, same for Infuse users.
I've been OK, but so far I've only tethered Android tablets (Galaxy Tab 10.1) in the past month or two.
Entropy512 said:
Cappy users are getting nailed right and left, same for Infuse users.
I've been OK, but so far I've only tethered Android tablets (Galaxy Tab 10.1) in the past month or two.
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Earlier this year I used the hotspot on my Dell Streak to tether my laptop for an entire week. Never heard anything from AT&T. It has a stock ROM from another region and is rooted. I haven't unloaded any stock apps on it.
brianlp said:
Has anyone actually used Barnacle with this phone?
I rooted and installed Barnacle, which has to be downloaded from their site because it is blocked in Market. I start Barnacle and it has SU privilege, but no device can see the hotspot it creates. Even when I create the WiFi network there is no connection.
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You don't necessarily have to download it from their site. If you have a wifi connection you should be able to put the phone in airplane mode, turn on wifi, and connect that way. Either that or remove the sim card and get on wifi. As long as the sim is either removed or disabled and you are on wifi the market will not be filtered.
Maybe you're trying to connect devices to it that can either only see an infrastructure mode access point or are set to only connect to those. My laptop didn't see mine at first, but then I changed the setting in the wireless to show all types of connections (ad-hoc and infrastructure) and it worked. I had to actually modify the wifi_supplicant file on my moto Xoom for it to see ad-hoc connections.
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Any link to rooting the AT&T version? Want to root and use the built in tether. As of now, when you try to use the tether it will say you need to have the tether option. Don't want to pay the extra for using it a few times a month.
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This one worked perfectly for me and I didn't need to use SuperOneClick after loading it as it was already rooted. Go here.
I never had any issues or nasty-grams from AT&T for wifi tether, but I only used it when I needed too which honestly, wasn't too often.
Is USB tether an option? or have they figured out a way to bill for that too? And can it be done without root?
I would also like to know if this is possible without buying their plan. Either EasyTether, PDANet, or Tether.com something like that. I'm hoping one of those will work otherwise it's a no go for me. I NEED some kind of tethering capability.
Still no answer to this?
You're either going to have to pay for T-Mobile's tethering service, find a tether app that works, or root your phone and wait for a custom ROM.
This phone was just realeased and not everyone has had the time to tinker with it, nor are there a lot of developers or experienced people roaming this forum yet.
Im assuming there is no mobile hotspot either ?
USB tethering does work with the Amaze 4g with PDAnet. I can confirm it.
The question i have is if someone with a rooted 4g using barnacle is able to wifi tether.
I have my old SIM card in it and it tethers just fine. Acer Iconia and laptop.
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USB tethering does work with the Amaze 4g with PDAnet. I can confirm it.
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Hmmm. My old Samsung phone tethers perfectly with PDAnet but Amaze does not.
Recognizes phone (black icon on PC) but refuses to believe tether is already enabled on phone.
Is it just me? Win7 home / BeastMod 2.2.0
jjane45 said:
Hmmm. My old Samsung phone tethers perfectly with PDAnet but Amaze does not.
Recognizes phone (black icon on PC) but refuses to believe tether is already enabled on phone.
Is it just me? Win7 home / BeastMod 2.2.0
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I am running exact same setup. Make sure you have current drivers on your computer by installing htc sync. You may have to use a different user agent on your web browser to avoid the tmobile upsell page. Pdanet isn't necessary, just use tye built in tethering.
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I don't understand why people just don't get the tethering option.
I broke down and upgraded to 10gb a month and it came with the wifi hotspot feature. And I NEED 10+gb a month. Currently I'm at 9.2gb and I still have a little over a week to go.
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I don't understand why people just don't get the tethering option.
I broke down and upgraded to 10gb a month and it came with the wifi hotspot feature. And I NEED 10+gb a month. Currently I'm at 9.2gb and I still have a little over a week to go.
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Ditto. They've (TMo US anyway) recently been giving free tethering/hotspot to anyone with 5gb or greater who asks, which is what I've got. And the built in tethering and hotspot both work great.
I've never gotten close to 5gb personally, but I just got the Amaze, and it is so much faster than my HD2 was (or even my cable) that I've basically been leaving WiFi off.
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Ditto. They've (TMo US anyway) recently been giving free tethering/hotspot to anyone with 5gb or greater who asks, which is what I've got. And the built in tethering and hotspot both work great.
I've never gotten close to 5gb personally, but I just got the Amaze, and it is so much faster than my HD2 was (or even my cable) that I've basically been leaving WiFi off.
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Actualy what tmo been doing is not giving away free tether but changing your data plan.and getting you to sign up for one of their 5gb or more plans.
I tried to get the free hotspot but I'm on a grandfathered unlimited data plan, and I'd be down graded to either the 5 or 10 gb.
And fyi I am very sure, just like the other carriers flow can tell if you are cheating, as in WiFi/tether hack. My rooted g2x had "free" tether, thoguh and never heard from tmo about it.
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I use usb tether and hotspot all the time and have never had any problema.im rooted using custom roms, but i want to say i did it when i was still stock too
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jcparks said:
I am running exact same setup. Make sure you have current drivers on your computer by installing htc sync. You may have to use a different user agent on your web browser to avoid the tmobile upsell page. Pdanet isn't necessary, just use tye built in tethering.
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Thanks so much! Firefox "user agent switcher" add-on got the job done, now that wifi hotspot works, I do not need USB tether.
I use very little data and only tether very very sparingly, so really don't see the need of upgrade.
Just wondering, has anybody been caught tethering using ATT and Barnacle wifi tether? I only use a couple hundred MB per month as is (on the unlimited plan), I'm just going on a short trip over the weekend and hoping I can tether to make things a little easier.
Thanks!
I hate to say this but everyone with Att is going to get caught for tethering if you do it. Its just a matter of time. Like I just got caught a week or two ago. I was doing it for almost 2 years.
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rdin said:
Just wondering, has anybody been caught tethering using ATT and Barnacle wifi tether? I only use a couple hundred MB per month as is (on the unlimited plan), I'm just going on a short trip over the weekend and hoping I can tether to make things a little easier.
Thanks!
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Cant speak for BArnacle but with WiFi Tether you will be fine, enjoy your trip.
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I hate to say this but everyone with Att is going to get caught for tethering if you do it. Its just a matter of time. Like I just got caught a week or two ago. I was doing it for almost 2 years.
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Stop fear mongering! You yourself are not "everybody" so please speak for yourself and not everybody, you got caught (prob from APN or abuse). Not sure what method you were using but if it was custom APN of course your gonna get caught. With "WiFi Tether" app method the only way att is going to THINK you are tethering is if you continually have EXTREME data usage, and even then they have no proof and you can tell them to shove it. With "WiFi Tether" att cannot prove your tethering and they cannot remove the app from your phone. I use (and tether) between 1GB and 3GB data per month.
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Cant speak for BArnacle but with WiFi Tether you will be fine, enjoy your trip.
Stop fear mongering! You yourself are not "everybody" so please speak for yourself and not everybody, you got caught (prob from APN or abuse). Not sure what method you were using but if it was custom APN of course your gonna get caught. With "WiFi Tether" app method the only way att is going to THINK you are tethering is if you continually have EXTREME data usage, and even then they have no proof and you can tell them to shove it. With "WiFi Tether" att cannot prove your tethering and they cannot remove the app from your phone. I use (and tether) between 1GB and 3GB data per month.
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I used barnacle for around 2 years and I got caught. And I m not trying to scare people. Jeeez. I am only telling people facts. I have been keeping up with the you getting served thread. And that's where I got the answer. I even use the same data usage as you.
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Hey all -
My friend just bought an HTC Rezound to with a 2GB (4GB due to their current promo) data plan. He plans on using it as his main internet connection at his house over the summer because up there, they don't have cable internet or DSL available. Anyone have any input on what the best setup (ROM wise and app wise) would be for him to achieve this? I'm a little worried because I've seen some people saying Verizon can charge you for teathering (I'm currently on Sprint and have never had this problem on a rooted device) even if you use are rooted and use a 3rd party app. Is that true? If he has a custom rooted ROM, and uses something like android wi-fi teather, he should be fine right? How could they tell the data is going to a desktop vs. being displayed through his phones browser?
Anyone?
10char
I really don't think you can tether for free with any of the ROMs out now. I just came from a droid 3 and could tether after hacking the radio, but haven't seen anything like that for the rezound. Tethering does come in handy once in a while. Anyone have any success tethering for free?
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I really don't think you can tether for free with any of the ROMs out now. I just came from a droid 3 and could tether after hacking the radio, but haven't seen anything like that for the rezound. Tethering does come in handy once in a while. Anyone have any success tethering for free?
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I believe there are at least two threads that deal with this at xda, so search "rezound wifi tether" on Google and you should get many hits. Search is your friend.
However, the long and the short is, GB ROMs will allow adhoc wifi tethering and ICS ROMs allow infrastructure tethering.
If you don't understand the difference, I wouldn't suggest messing with your friend's Rezound until you've done some research.
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There are currently no wifi hotspot hacks to allow what your friend is looking for. If he's smart he'll pay for wifi hotspot and get unlimited data in the process(plenty of info on that). Otherwise as stated above, ad-hoc tether is available for GB and infrastructure tether for ICS.
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There are currently no wifi hotspot hacks to allow what your friend is looking for. If he's smart he'll pay for wifi hotspot and get unlimited data in the process(plenty of info on that). Otherwise as stated above, ad-hoc tether is available for GB and infrastructure tether for ICS.
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So are you saying that VZW can tell if you use ad-hoc or infrastructure tether? I canceled my mhs because it was basically useless. Haven't asked for a refund since I figured I was getting what I paid for a little at a time and I thought they didn't know...
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So are you saying that VZW can tell if you use ad-hoc or infrastructure tether? I canceled my mhs because it was basically useless. Haven't asked for a refund since I figured I was getting what I paid for a little at a time and I thought they didn't know...
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Nope, I was just saying that there isn't a hack for free MHS. You can only do 1-to-1 device tethering without MHS. As far as we currently know ad-hoc and infrastructure tethering is still not detectable.
I know At&t was pulling "We know you are tethering" claims with all the iPhone users when I was with them. That said I don't see how they could claim this with android with the option to use Firefox+Phony to change how you see the webpage.
I tether all the time for free