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I just bought a thunderbolt on impulse. This time yesterday I had no plan to do so, but I woke up on the wrong side of the bed I guess.
Love the phone thus far, though coming from an EVO I don't feel much difference beyond the speed of the device.
Does anyone know ways to improve tethering? Using the FCC speedtest app I am getting 5-7Mbps Down adn 20-30Mbps Up pings all around 100. On my tethered XOOM I am getting an impressive 4-6ish down, 3-6ish up with pings from 50-150.
The numbers when I started this thread were about 3 and 3 which still beats my evos 1 and 1 in optimal conditions. Thus far the Thunderbolt seems to connect to 4G instantly and unlike the EVO the stock tethering app is 4G friendly, but more to the point the 700mhz seems to be proving to be less placement centric. I can have it on a chair in the corner of the room under a desk and it seems to still get damn good speeds. Where I am used to putting my EVO on a windowsill and still wanting better signal.
All that aside, my point of this thread is, has anyone found tweaks that increase tethering performance? Are certain channels better, or does less/no encryption increase performance?
Bump. I know I can't be the only one who wants an answer to the best way to tether.
im new to verizon and read that they are able to detect tethering from rooted devices. nice that we have tethering now, but when the time limit runs out will tethering be possible? has anyone tethered on verizon before without issue? is tethering truly unlimited, or is there a cap/throttle?
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im new to verizon and read that they are able to detect tethering from rooted devices. nice that we have tethering now, but when the time limit runs out will tethering be possible? has anyone tethered on verizon before without issue? is tethering truly unlimited, or is there a cap/throttle?
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I've been tethering on my D1 for months and never been "detected". Tethered data looks like cell phone data to the provider. The only way I could see being detected is if the app you are using (the included one) sends some sort of flag. AFAIK the root wifi tether does nothing of the sort.
what are you guys using to tether? a 3rd party tethering app?
I've tethered heavily for at least 8 months on Incredible and Droid X. Never had an issue with detection. You will need root for third party app once root us achieved. Permanent root should come today. Then use app from market
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im new to verizon and read that they are able to detect tethering from rooted devices. nice that we have tethering now, but when the time limit runs out will tethering be possible? has anyone tethered on verizon before without issue? is tethering truly unlimited, or is there a cap/throttle?
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what are you guys using to tether? a 3rd party tethering app?
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Once you have root this program will let you use wifi to tether: http://code.google.com/p/android-wifi-tether/downloads/list
There is one in the market too, but I've never used it...
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Also been tethering for over a year on my Droid and have never had an issue with VZW. My highest month ever was only 4 gigs, I average around 1.5-2.
I think your reception issue is more in the higher quality of the VZW network compared to the lousy Sprint network your EVO is on. People don't like to admit it, but my friends on Sprint and AT&T all have spots in thier house where the phone only works, or works best, etc.... Verizon that is generally not an issue.
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I've been tethering on my D1 for months and never been "detected". Tethered data looks like cell phone data to the provider. The only way I could see being detected is if the app you are using (the included one) sends some sort of flag. AFAIK the root wifi tether does nothing of the sort.
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A bit off-topic here but I turned on MobileAP on Galaxy Tab (AT&T) so that I could check out the GTablet while I was @local officemax store, AT&T detects it and sent me email & SMS reminder that I will need to have a proper plan.
So yes, they should be able to detect.
or you could use easytether, and tether via usb. No root required.
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or you could use easytether, and tether via usb. No root required.
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It user browser string to detect web traffic :silly:
All of my roms have network speed tweaks that improve your tethering :good:
What's the difference between the built-in wifi hotspot app that Sprint gave me vs. rooting and installing the wifi tether program I found?
Pete
They gave you??
You normally have to pay per month for the Sprint hotspot. Wireless tether is free if rooted.
The app is on my phone. I tested it, and there was no warning about any potential cost, so it's free, no?
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The app is on my phone. I tested it, and there was no warning about any potential cost, so it's free, no?
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I wouldn't think so but who knows. Better check with Sprint first before taking the chance of racking up a huge bill. I think it is normally around $30/month for that feature.
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I wouldn't think so but who knows. Better check with Sprint first before taking the chance of racking up a huge bill. I think it is normally around $30/month for that feature.
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OK, thanks. That make sense - otherwise, I could see no benefit to wifi tether.
I'll confirm it did not cost me anything to test and complain if it did!
has anyone confirmed this???
Mine does turn on and the only warning it gives is about battery. As soon as I turn it off though I get a mobile ip registration error on the phone.
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I've been told that the built in WiFi hotspot is a monthly charge so if you don't want to pay for it you should definitely root your phone and use WiFi Tether. I would post a link but I'm not allowed so just Google "WiFi Tether beta" and go to the second result. Good luck!
How can i get free wifi tethering on my att galaxy s2?
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How can i get free wifi tethering on my att galaxy s2?
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You can root it and use barnacle, or use the hotspot feature under the "wireless and network settings" if AT&T hasn't disabled it. I was planning on getting one earlier today, but wasn't able to get to the store before work.
Check the settings and see if "Tethering & portable hotspot" feature is there. If it is it will just use your regular data plan.
Ok thanks im going to just wait for a root to come out.
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wifi hotspot has not been disabled on my sgs2, not rooted
When I picked up my phone at AT&T they asked me if I wanted the family (?) tether plan for $45/mo. I said no. When I checked the phone at home, the tether option was there, so is it cool to tether the phone without getting a nasty gram?
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When I picked up my phone at AT&T they asked me if I wanted the family (?) tether plan for $45/mo. I said no. When I checked the phone at home, the tether option was there, so is it cool to tether the phone without getting a nasty gram?
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The moment you turn that on and start using it you will get a notice that you will need to change to that tether plan. Unless you get PDAnet or root the phone and use one of those apps.
I rooted , used Titanium Backup and froze tethering manager app, wifi tethering now works fine with my android tablet.
Bob
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I rooted , used Titanium Backup and froze tethering manager app, wifi tethering now works fine with my android tablet.
Bob
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Any link to rooting the AT&T version? Want to root and use the built in tether. As of now, when you try to use the tether it will say you need to have the tether option. Don't want to pay the extra for using it a few times a month.
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The moment you turn that on and start using it you will get a notice that you will need to change to that tether plan. Unless you get PDAnet or root the phone and use one of those apps.
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Yep, you're right. I just tried it.
I guess I root.
You need to root the phone and unintall the Tethering Manager in order to use the built-in tethering features without paying for it.
Just remember that a lot of people have been getting nastygrams from AT&T even without interference from tethering manager. There has been a lot of speculation as to the cause, but naive tethering is detectable in a number of ways, so don't be surprised if they suddenly decide to up your bill by $20.
Has anyone actually used Barnacle with this phone?
I rooted and installed Barnacle, which has to be downloaded from their site because it is blocked in Market. I start Barnacle and it has SU privilege, but no device can see the hotspot it creates. Even when I create the WiFi network there is no connection.
I'm having the same problem as far as my phone telling me I need a tethering plan. So I called At&t & they said I'd have to basically lose my grandfathered in plan of Unlimited just so I can surf the net for an extra $45 a mnth!! WTF!! I Didn't have this problem with my Cappy.. Wut to friggin do?? Can't root without Internet?? Someone please help a brother out!!
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I'm having the same problem as far as my phone telling me I need a tethering plan. So I called At&t & they said I'd have to basically lose my grandfathered in plan of Unlimited just so I can surf the net for an extra $45 a mnth!! WTF!! I Didn't have this problem with my Cappy.. Wut to friggin do?? Can't root without Internet?? Someone please help a brother out!!
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If you want to tether without paying for it, you have to root and freeze/remove tethering manager, or use a third-party app. Plus, you still risk AT&T slapping you with the overpriced tethering plan if they catch you. Not really sure there is anything you can do.
I figured as much. I never had a problem up til today when I got my new Gs2. I don't tether much at all to be honest with you. But at&t screwed me cause now I'm without Internet so I can't root even if I wanted to. I think I have no choice but to get a wireless Internet card til I root & find a decent ROM. Thanks a bunch for the advice though.. Much appreciated!!
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Cappy users are getting nailed right and left, same for Infuse users.
I've been OK, but so far I've only tethered Android tablets (Galaxy Tab 10.1) in the past month or two.
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Cappy users are getting nailed right and left, same for Infuse users.
I've been OK, but so far I've only tethered Android tablets (Galaxy Tab 10.1) in the past month or two.
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Earlier this year I used the hotspot on my Dell Streak to tether my laptop for an entire week. Never heard anything from AT&T. It has a stock ROM from another region and is rooted. I haven't unloaded any stock apps on it.
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Has anyone actually used Barnacle with this phone?
I rooted and installed Barnacle, which has to be downloaded from their site because it is blocked in Market. I start Barnacle and it has SU privilege, but no device can see the hotspot it creates. Even when I create the WiFi network there is no connection.
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You don't necessarily have to download it from their site. If you have a wifi connection you should be able to put the phone in airplane mode, turn on wifi, and connect that way. Either that or remove the sim card and get on wifi. As long as the sim is either removed or disabled and you are on wifi the market will not be filtered.
Maybe you're trying to connect devices to it that can either only see an infrastructure mode access point or are set to only connect to those. My laptop didn't see mine at first, but then I changed the setting in the wireless to show all types of connections (ad-hoc and infrastructure) and it worked. I had to actually modify the wifi_supplicant file on my moto Xoom for it to see ad-hoc connections.
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Any link to rooting the AT&T version? Want to root and use the built in tether. As of now, when you try to use the tether it will say you need to have the tether option. Don't want to pay the extra for using it a few times a month.
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This one worked perfectly for me and I didn't need to use SuperOneClick after loading it as it was already rooted. Go here.
I never had any issues or nasty-grams from AT&T for wifi tether, but I only used it when I needed too which honestly, wasn't too often.
Found some old posts, back in May, where people were discussing whether PDANet could truly hide tethering from AT&T, or other providers. I was tethering with my rooted SGS2 and received the text, email, and snail mail notices from AT&T that I would lose my unlimited data and be forced to by a tethering plan if I continued to tether. I was utilizing the stock rom with the tethering manager frozen.
Has anybody utilizing the 3.02 version of PDANet been contacted by AT&T to c&d? If so, could the c&d be attributed to tethering done before installing PDANet?
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retnuh
I'd like to know as well.
I don't think pdanet does anything special...i use approx 3-5gigs a month all mostly teathering. I have never received any notices of any kind.
I think as long there isn't any high spikes in data usage, you'll be safe.
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This is just an unproven theory by myself, but don't use internet explorer on the device you are tethering to.
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Personally, I use Firefox with User Agent usually set to Iphone, but obviously if there was a galaxy s 2 user agent I would use it. I din't tether to much- maybe 500 meg a month, but I've never been caught.
I got hit with the top %5 text the other morning...managed to use just under 12gigz this billing cycle..MOSTLY from wifi tether Phone 2 Phone and i maybe used an hr tethering to a laptop..I work for the bastards..doesn't matter what you use...all ill say is the network is alot smarter than people think..trust me..
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Supposedly Barnacle "hides" it and it's a free app. Google it.
I wonder if using an SSH connection would encrypt the connection enough to hide anything they sniff out to detect tethering.
If your rooted and have root explore just delete tehtering manager. Apk in system/app and if your on a custom rom it is more than likely already removed for you. Now if I could just get decent data speeds I would use it
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That's the way I was tethering when I was told by AT&T to c&d. That's why I'm trying to find a way to tether and not get caught.
Hmmm odd you must have had huge data spikes because without that app they can't tell besides seeing you use like a gig a day. Interesting any thoughts guys?
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If somebody knows for sure if PDANet stealth mode works - I'd really, REALLY like to know too! Had AT&T's "Unlimited" plan for a few years now. Been teathering, but for completely trivial amounts of data - during most months my usage didn't go over a gig or two. This month I went over 4 gig for the first time ever, and suddenly all hell broke loose. I get repeated "5%" messages over text and email, warning they will throttle down my 3G speeds (they are already a complete joke here in NY-NJ). So I stopped using all data for about a week now, but the messages never stopped, and now I am getting the tether notices.
I got the letter last May when I had an iPhone that was jailbroken. Now I got the rooted Android and I just don't want to lose unlimited data. I tried once with PDA bored at an airport and wanting to do basic surfing on my laptop. I used it again the other night on my laptop for simple surfing as my main internet went down and so far as I know (/knock on wood/) I'm okay.
Most say TTL is how they find out. My problem is they have intricate logs of every phone call and text you ever sent but can't tell me a MAC addy, time, etc. of when I tethered. Fact is known that only those with unlimited data plans were the ones attacked as it seems they are slowly trying to phase these out.
I just make sure to not have Windows Updates enabled when surfing on my laptop with tethering. It's obvious any mobile phone shouldn't be accessing this site.
I dont know how they can tell but it seems they are always able to. I used my android to tether with an iphone to download Wifi only updates and after about 3 months i got the notice saying I need to not tether or they will remove unlimited.
Apparently they say that the notices aren't always Instant (I was figuring i would get it right after i used tethering). I know for a fact i had not tethered after the last time so it was roughly 3 months behind.
I do not believe sirs (referring to OP)
I am moving from a blackberry to the Note coming March. I did used the blackberry as a modem a few times following the directions from the blackberry forums. Now I know that there are some applications for these android phones that you can do the same thing but do you have to root the phone to be able to use the wifi hot spot without ma' AT&T knowing? I cant have a phone that I cant "tether" to it, that will be a deal killer...
Thanks!
Yes, you have to root AT&T android phones or buy a tethering plan (rip-off) if you want to tether.
I know what you say about ripoff. If you already have a data plan why having to pay more to be able to use it with a different piece of equipment? I can only guess because the phones are less heavy on the network than what a pc could be since most websites for mobile devices are less data heavy.... Still, should be your option... Thanks, I wanted to stay away from rooting if possible. I am computer savvy and not technology impaired at all but I know a small percentage of phones can brick from the procedure... It will suck if I am part of that small percentage... lol!
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I know what you say about ripoff. If you already have a data plan why having to pay more to be able to use it with a different piece of equipment? I can only guess because the phones are less heavy on the network than what a pc could be since most websites for mobile devices are less data heavy.... Still, should be your option... Thanks, I wanted to stay away from rooting if possible. I am computer savvy and not technology impaired at all but I know a small percentage of phones can brick from the procedure... It will suck if I am part of that small percentage... lol!
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I've never heard of bricking a phone from rooting. If you don't follow the steps right, maybe, but it's a very simple procedure.
u can brick a phone if u dont odin properly. aka put the .tar file phone instead of pda
its not technically bricked but your modems are done.
Im pretty sure I can follow the procedure. Im new to android and when I read about any of these procedures I see the warnings about it so I think there is a real (as small as it is) chance for that to happen. Actually, if my memory serve me well when I started to investigate about the android market I think I seen a post of 2 about people phones being bricked... but I could be wrong....
Thanks for your help.
I rooted my i717 following DA_G's method. Today I used the "Wireless Tether" app I got from xda awhile ago to create wifi hot spot with my i717 4G LTE data plan, but I got an error message saying "Tethering started with errors!" and there was no "Show Log" file to be seen to see what's wronng... I was able to use the same tethering app to create wifi hot spot with T-mobile 2G data ($2 dayly fee) on another phone.
Please help. Thanks.
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I rooted my i717 following DA_G's method. Today I used the "Wireless Tether" app I got from xda awhile ago to create wifi hot spot with my i717 4G LTE data plan, but I got an error message saying "Tethering started with errors!" and there was no "Show Log" file to be seen to see what's wronng... I was able to use the same tethering app to create wifi hot spot with T-mobile 2G data ($2 dayly fee) on another phone.
Please help. Thanks.
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You need to start your own thread.
I pay for the tethering plan because I need more than 2GB and if you go over that then they'll just throttle you anyway. Actually they'll throttle you before you even get that far.
I only tether in very few ocasions. I probably didnt tether last year for over 4 hours total and most of it was just waiting. I use tether for my work when I have to leave the office for something that I cant avoid and I have already used my lunch time. I login to the vpn, set the laptop in the front seat so i can hear it go off I someone is trying to contact me and that is it. If I used the phone as a wifi every day then I would definetly had a tether plan. My use is very sporadic but when I need it, I really need it and must work. I used to do that in my personal blackberry, once I get the Note I will use my corporate blackberry for that up until I decide to root it. I read about this app that let you tether off the Note and you dont have to root it so if I must I will get that... I will probably root the phone close to the 30 days of having it.
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I rooted my i717 following DA_G's method. Today I used the "Wireless Tether" app I got from xda awhile ago to create wifi hot spot with my i717 4G LTE data plan, but I got an error message saying "Tethering started with errors!" and there was no "Show Log" file to be seen to see what's wronng... I was able to use the same tethering app to create wifi hot spot with T-mobile 2G data ($2 dayly fee) on another phone.
Please help. Thanks.
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I think you have to delete or freeze the TetheringManager.apk that AT&T put on there in order for it to work.
Thanks for confirmimg what I read about freezing/unstalling AT&T TetheringManager using Titanium Backup/Restore. My remaining question is: do I use "Wireless Tether" app or do I just use AT&T's stock "settings/wireless and network/tethering and portable hotspot"?
I am not sure about this, but I believe if you sign with the devil (AT&T) for their 5 Gb data plan it will include tethering already automatically?
I was same as you, very afraid of rooting or using Odin etc, untill I did follow instructions step by step on XDA forums and succesfully rooted international Galaxy S2, installed firmware to my Galaxy Tab etc. Guys here are awesome with helping newbies and people who are lost and don't ask stupid questions. Don't be worry, lets buy Note
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I did a backup for TetheringManager with TitaniumBackup app, and then uninstalled it. I proceeded by using "Tethering and Portable Hotspot" in AT&T StockRom, and I got the wifi hotspot to be seens & connected to two devices OK.
I also tried the "Wireless Tether" app that I got from xda, but the same error message ("Tethering started with errors!") appeared. I do prefer to use the latter which seems to have more download/upload information. Anybody knows what to do to make it work? Thanks.
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Oh I have the "unlimited" 4G LTE data plan grandfathered/transferred from my iPhone 4S 3G "unlimited" data plan. I think if we get Wireless Tether work for AT&T SGN, there will also be less network "problems".
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I rooted my i717 following DA_G's method. Today I used the "Wireless Tether" app I got from xda awhile ago to create wifi hot spot with my i717 4G LTE data plan, but I got an error message saying "Tethering started with errors!" and there was no "Show Log" file to be seen to see what's wronng... I was able to use the same tethering app to create wifi hot spot with T-mobile 2G data ($2 dayly fee) on another phone.
Please help. Thanks.
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There is no need to run any 3rd party app (the one you mentioned is notoriously buggy last time I tried) if you rooted. Just uninstall the 'Tethering Manager' app using TitaniumBackup and you can use the built-in wireless hotspot feature. You will get caught regardless which app you use. AT&T is packet sniffing. If they suspect you tethering, they will catch you.
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I am not sure about this, but I believe if you sign with the devil (AT&T) for their 5 Gb data plan it will include tethering already automatically?
I was same as you, very afraid of rooting or using Odin etc, untill I did follow instructions step by step on XDA forums and succesfully rooted international Galaxy S2, installed firmware to my Galaxy Tab etc. Guys here are awesome with helping newbies and people who are lost and don't ask stupid questions. Don't be worry, lets buy Note
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You are correct on the 5GB plan including tethering. I was on the 3GB plan for $30, however, my 21% corp discount only applies to the $50 plan, so I figured it was worth it to convert to the $50 plan with tethering which after my discount was only $9.50 more a month than the 3GB plan.
Just a heads up...
I tried this app from the market called SVTP that enabled wifi hotspot without root on my Note. I used the Lite version that is free but limited to 2 days of unlimited use, then 5 minutes per day after. The full version is not limited but is $15 bucks.
Maybe there are other apps that do what this does that aren't so expensive.