[Q] What things are backed up in nandroid? - Fascinate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I know that when you do you a backup, it backs up your rom and kernel.
But does it back up your modem? I did that whole shebang to get the ED01 modem and would rather not do it all again if something goes wrong.
Thanks

nandroid backups back up /system and /data afaik, and with the new CMW 3.X I believe it backs up the kernel as well. There is no method to backup the modem, but I'd love to know what you think you're going to do that will mess up the modem, because whatever it is, you're likely going to want to use ODIN to get back to fully stock anyway as nothing besides Odin/Heimdall and OTA updates do anything to the modem.

Cool. That's all I wanted to know. I wasn't sure about everything it did. Thanks.

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[Q] Nandroid/ odin question?

Ok, so immediately after rooting I created a nandroid backup. So, if I flash a rom (or anything else for that matter) and something goes wrong, I can restore my "stock" backup. im new to odin and curious to why I'd have to use it to flash the vibrant stock rom if I already have my nandroid stock backup? From what I gather, if I change the kernal, using odin will restore it back to stock, and nandroid will only restore system and data, but not change back the kernal. Is this correct or am I missing something vital that I don't know about odin. Sorry if this sounds confusing. Any help is greatly appreciated.
mentalex2 said:
Ok, so immediately after rooting I created a nandroid backup. So, if I flash a rom (or anything else for that matter) and something goes wrong, I can restore my "stock" backup. im new to odin and curious to why I'd have to use it to flash the vibrant stock rom if I already have my nandroid stock backup? From what I gather, if I change the kernal, using odin will restore it back to stock, and nandroid will only restore system and data, but not change back the kernal. Is this correct or am I missing something vital that I don't know about odin. Sorry if this sounds confusing. Any help is greatly appreciated.
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You are correct. As long as you don't need to restore a kernel you can use nandroid to restore to stock. And if you ever use your nandroid backup there is a stock nandroid backup posted in the development forum. I don't like using odin unless I absolutely have to (such as in a situation where I can't get into clockwork recovery or something)

Nandroid backup

i have read some threads about the nandroid backup, even the stickies. but i'm still confused about it. so i just want to ask things about it.
if i want to flash from JI6 to another custom rom, they are saying that i should do a back up first, what will the back up do? save my applications, contacts? or will the back up get the phone to the JI6 when the phone get's bricked?
A backup basically is an image of your phone as it is when you perform the backup. It saves your apps, contacts, everything. It wont work all the time however, if you royally screw up a flash or something along those lines you will have to use Odin to reflash firmware and start from scratch. You will notice that in probably every kernel, rom and theme post they strongly urge you to make a backup in case something goes wrong.
what if i don't care about the applications, contacts and files inside the my phone. like it's ok for me to start from a stock vibrant. i don't have to do a backup? can i just flash the phone straight away?
You dont HAVE to do a back up but its highly recommended in case something you do goes wrong. If you dont care about loss of apps and stuff educate yourself on how to use Odin, its great. When I started getting into a flashing frenzy Odin has saved me countless times.
I know how to use the odin. what I don't know is if it's really a must to do a backup when flashing the phone.
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No, its not a requirement.
that's the one I wanted to know. thanks! I just hope my phone doesn't get bricked.
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I did a nandroid backup of stock JI6 with OCLF and tried BionixFINAL_STOCK.zip. I wanted to go back to my JI6 but the restore didn’t work. I think there is a different in kernels. Is there anyway to do a backup of everything so that the nandroid restore would work? I can still go back to JI6 using Odin but prefer to do without a computer. Your help is greatly appreciated.

Help with restoring a nandroid please!

Earlier I rooted my phone and flashed it with Bionix Fusion. All went well and it was working just fine. Although after looking through the new rom I remembered I forgot to save my contacts.... I followed the instructions on installing bionix and I created a nandroid backup. Somebody who similarly forgot to save his contacts said to restore the backup sync the contacts to google and then flash the rom over again.
My issue is that I tried to flash my backup and now its been stuck on the Vibrant screen for the past 10 minutes. What went wrong?
please help and ty for your time
well because I couldnt get the nandroid backup to restore correctly I ended up just going back and flashing the bionix fusion rom again and its booting up just fine. Unfortunately I feel that I just lost all my contacts. Anybody have any ideas? Did my nandroid backup just get corrupt somehow? Is there anyways i can somehow get my contacts from the backup?
Whoever posted that must have meant that you should make a backup before flashing any rom. If yiu did that, you could have went back to that backup with all you contacts intact. Its too late now, hopefully google synced most of your contacts.
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If you are running Voodoo lagfix, you have to disable the lagfix BEFORE restoring
i did do the backup before flashing. But i guess it just got screwed up somehow. I've never used any lagfixes either
Which version did you flash? I'm going to guess you used one that did not have a stock kernel (JAC/KK)... you would have to flash the stock kernel before restoring a nandroid backup from JI6 or JFD since IT has a stock kernel. The nandroid does not replace the kernel, hence why it would hang at the Vibrant screen.
s15274n said:
Which version did you flash? I'm going to guess you used one that did not have a stock kernel (JAC/KK)... you would have to flash the stock kernel before restoring a nandroid backup from JI6 or JFD since IT has a stock kernel. The nandroid does not replace the kernel, hence why it would hang at the Vibrant screen.
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Do you mean oden when you say "flash the stock kernel"?

[Q] Used Clockwork to backup Vibrant, flashed a new ROM, then changed my mind

I had zero problems when rooting and flashing my G1, but now with my Vibrant I am not sure what I did.
A few excellent stickies at the top but I seem to not be making any progress.
Here are the steps I took.
I had a stock Vibrant running 2.1
I downloaded ROM Manager, installed clockwork mod.
Did a backup of my current system ( was I supposed to do a clockwork AND nandroid?)
Downloaded and successfully installed a ROM called Blackhole 1.0
it runs ok but didn't give me the option to switch from 3G to EDGE data, and then I couldn't get internet access at all so i decided to restore my original stock vibrant system.
So I rebooted into recovery, selected restore (my phone won't go into recovery anymore for some reason) and waited, it took a while, then I rebooted (forgot to wipe), but it just got stuck on the Vibrant screen. So I booted into recovery mode again and wiped just user data not cache and rebooted, same thing stuck at Vibrant.
Now i keep hearing about something called ODIN, what I can tell it is some kind of flasher program for ROMS, nobody seems to give any kind of link or anything, is it greymarket or something?
So where am I now? I think the excellent noob guide needs to be updated a bit more.
My phone can get into download mode (whatever it is for i don't know) but it won't get into recovery mode anymore.
Everything you need is here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=771111
i think what happened to you is you flashed a 2.2 ROM then tried to revert back to 2.1 without doing the proper downgrading steps i.e. you did not flash a 2.1 kernel first.
but since you can get to download mode.. just flash stock JFD or JI6 through ODIN and you should be good.
good luck
Once you get back to stock don't give up on the 2.2 toms. Try axura or nero. They might have a few minor bugs but its way better then stock 2.1.
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I have done the samething as you, coming from a nexus one it seemed easier to flash roms without worrying about downgrading kernels or what not. Recently I was on Nero froyo and flashed to a different rom, and tried to revert back but ended up stuck at the vibrant screen. Think it has something to do with voodoo lag.
Anyways I had to use Odin with the no brick froyo off ebproductions. Ran that and uploaded clockwork, reinstalled voodoo lag fix and was able to nandroid back to my Nero set up. Somewhat of a pain but once you've done it, no need to worry about bricking
xtone said:
Everything you need is here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=771111
i think what happened to you is you flashed a 2.2 ROM then tried to revert back to 2.1 without doing the proper downgrading steps i.e. you did not flash a 2.1 kernel first.
but since you can get to download mode.. just flash stock JFD or JI6 through ODIN and you should be good.
good luck
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So the steps that are in this page?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=734475
GreggoryD502 said:
Once you get back to stock don't give up on the 2.2 toms. Try axura or nero. They might have a few minor bugs but its way better then stock 2.1.
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Well as long as I can use Odin if I f-up royally like above then I might give it a shot.
Need to read about downgrading kernals or whatever. Might just wait for Cyanogen 6.1
Just so you know, the backup utility in Rom Manager (clockwork) is really just shortcut to a nandroid backup.
The way I have things set up for backups, and this is just for my personal convenience, is as follows...
I have a stock JFD ODIN rom to flash in case anything goes wrong. (A lot of people here will tell you to flash this whenever flashing a new rom. It is safer, and cleaner to do it this way, but not absolutely necessary)
I make a nandroid of my last stable rom (I only keep one at a time cause the files are huge) and keep a backup of that on my PC.
I backup all my apps and a few other things (call logs, bookmarks, sms) through Titanium backup. If you get the pro version, you can load it up after flashing a new rom and have it automatically restore all your apps in one click (system settings can be dangerous to restore when going from rom to rom, so be careful with those.) I also keep a backup of this on my PC.
I will also occasionally backup both of the sd cards to the PC.
Maybe overkill, but you probably wont ever lose anything forever.
thegreatcity said:
Just so you know, the backup utility in Rom Manager (clockwork) is really just shortcut to a nandroid backup.
The way I have things set up for backups, and this is just for my personal convenience, is as follows...
I have a stock JFD ODIN rom to flash in case anything goes wrong. (A lot of people here will tell you to flash this whenever flashing a new rom. It is safer, and cleaner to do it this way, but not absolutely necessary)
I make a nandroid of my last stable rom (I only keep one at a time cause the files are huge) and keep a backup of that on my PC.
I backup all my apps and a few other things (call logs, bookmarks, sms) through Titanium backup. If you get the pro version, you can load it up after flashing a new rom and have it automatically restore all your apps in one click (system settings can be dangerous to restore when going from rom to rom, so be careful with those.) I also keep a backup of this on my PC.
I will also occasionally backup both of the sd cards to the PC.
Maybe overkill, but you probably wont ever lose anything forever.
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OK I will just do the long way from now on. I use this phone on AT&T, I was worried that I flushed $500 down the toilet but ever since i modded my first phone way back in the day i've been addicted.
Running Odin and my phone is in download mode, about to flash this b**ch.
wish me luck.
I flashed Odin on my phone to revert to stock. Re-Rooted it but now I can't flash Clockworkmod. Please help D:
use the update.zip posted here. You want B.

Restoring to Stock from CM10 (Whats the Final Word?)

Hey guys,
Wanted to get a sure answer.
Whats the safest way to restore back to the stock firmware fro CM10 (or any rom in general).
There are two answers that i seem to have come across.
Answer 1:
Just download the stock firmware. Extract tar. Load onto PDA, check auto reset the flash reset and then start. Boom done! Everything reverts to stock, modem, firmware, kernel, etc.
Answer 2:
YOU MUST first flash stock kernel. So flash that first via odin then open odin again and flash the rom. If you don't flash the stock kernel first and then just flash the stock firmware, you'll have some issues.
As you can see, both are a bit contradicting. Whats the right method?
You missed one.
Make a nandroid of your stock ROM. then once you're done checking out CM or whatever else, just restore that. A lot less headache.
Docavelli said:
You missed one.
Make a nandroid of your stock ROM. then once you're done checking out CM or whatever else, just restore that. A lot less headache.
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Yep, nandroid is much much faster. In fact I went to lunch today and restored my CM10 nandroid to show a friend. 10 minutes later I was back to my Samsung ROM. Its much easier than flashing stock, then re-rooting, then loading all your apps and data back on.
I had heard that nandroid restores between stock/CM9/CM10 were causing bugs, or something of the sort.
If it really is working that easily, I might have to give these CM9/CM10 builds a try. I just didn't want to play around with it for a bit and then be forced to set up my stock configuration all again, because I do have a need for a certain level of stability.
Edit: Ah, I was thinking of our Verizon version however. I think it might require an Odin flash back to stock, then you can restore a stock nandroid backup.
While I can't guarantee you won't have problems, I can say that I haven't had any issues while restoring nandroids.
*your experience may differ.
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What version of CWM or TWRP is working fine for nandroid backup and restore, specially for Tmo version?
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