[Q] Batter life going down after doing the battery boost? - XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Ok so I did the battery boost thing on one of the threads, which says that you only lose 0-1 % per 9 hours on CM 6.1.3 by wolfbreak
When I did that true to its claims it gave me that long battery life but now I see that my battery is draining quickly again
did this happen to anyone else before?

Yourmama said:
Ok so I did the battery boost thing on one of the threads, which says that you only lose 0-1 % per 9 hours on CM 6.1.3 by wolfbreak
When I did that true to its claims it gave me that long battery life but now I see that my battery is draining quickly again
did this happen to anyone else before?
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this may not work on others. its just posted to share. its not 100% that ur battery will improve. re-flash the rom n dun try the thing again...or u can try again...if u wan.

Have you installed something after those ''tweaks'' that stays open in the background?

Just some games but no major programs

probably the autokiller settings are too aggressive, and because your apps (widgets maybe?) are being killed and trying to reopen constantly this is actually in effect draining your battery

Yourmama said:
Just some games but no major programs
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Some games caused for me battery drain. So try looking with some kind of app (don't know name anymore) which one uses the most battery when on background.

fiscidtox said:
probably the autokiller settings are too aggressive, and because your apps (widgets maybe?) are being killed and trying to reopen constantly this is actually in effect draining your battery
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Apps won't reopen if you do nothing and closed them. So it will not cause battery drain. (And if they open without using them it maybe because it sheduled or you pressed a app that made it open)

PlayGunsta said:
Apps won't reopen if you do nothing and closed them. So it will not cause battery drain. (And if they open without using them it maybe because it sheduled or you pressed a app that made it open)
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yes they will.....
Say if you have a calendar widget or beautiful widgets, etc...
Or apps that are set to be persistent
With aggressive autokiller settings, these maybe being closed and constantly reopening

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fiscidtox said:
yes they will.....
Say if you have a calendar widget or beautiful widgets, etc...
Or apps that are set to be persistent
With aggressive autokiller settings, these maybe being closed and constantly reopening
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In theory yes. But in most cases the oom value of most commonly used widgets and their neccessary services are not raised or remain at around 0. AutoKiller is actually very intuitive with what apps priorities are raised it doesnt just kill everything indisciminately like most autokill task managers. I have used high values (150,200,250) for AutoKiller for more than 4 months and I have never had it kill any services or apps for widgets or even anything I want running in the background like Lookout, JuiceDefender, EasyFilter or DSP Manager. I also have numerous widgets and have never had problems with any of them being killed. I also get pretty awesome battery life. Chances are the problem is with some apps running unchecked in the background and not that apps you want in the background are getting killed.
Remember that everyone has different apps and everyone uses their phone differently so something that works for some people might not work as well for you. There are a lot of different things you can do to improve your battery life but if you try to set a target amount of battery drain (like the 0% in 9 hours) you can only be disappointed. Just use what you think helps you get the best performance for you and be happy for anything that seems to improve.
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[Q] Wanted battery saver

Hi all just wandering if anyone has good suggestion for saving battery. Maybe an app that saves battery or recommend something else. Im constantly charging my phone 3 times a day and my battery goes quick. Im using task killer and killing unwanted apps that are running. I have lowered the screen brightness as well. But my battery still runs out quickly.
Thank you
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I have also tried cpu tuner and battery saving apps but they seem to make my phone run slow and sometimes freeze.
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you might be running quite a lot of widgets. or animated wallpapers. taskkillers sometimes aggravate the problem, since the apps they kill, will auto start.
try some system monitoring apps. these will tell you what apps are actually USING CPU cycles. they are the ones that kills your battery quick. then you have the option to uninstall the cpu-hoggers.
if all else fails, try a different battery, or have your phone checked
Background Data is battery killer
Also double check to see if background data is being used. Settings ---> Accounts and Sync. If background data is on, many apps will continue to open themselves and refresh their data before your task killer kills them.
ctalcant said:
Also double check to see if background data is being used. Settings ---> Accounts and Sync. If background data is on, many apps will continue to open themselves and refresh their data before your task killer kills them.
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Is this the reason why everytime I open advance task killer, a lot of apps show up even if I didn't use them? like yahoo messenger, music, mail,.. I think almost all of my apps show up and I only have like 20+MB of free space even if I kill apps every 30 minutes?
elena17484 said:
Hi all just wandering if anyone has good suggestion for saving battery. Maybe an app that saves battery or recommend something else. Im constantly charging my phone 3 times a day and my battery goes quick. Im using task killer and killing unwanted apps that are running. I have lowered the screen brightness as well. But my battery still runs out quickly.
Thank you
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My suggestion is to stop using autokill apps (if you're on eclair). Just kill apps manually when you feel like your phone is slowing down. What launcher are you using? Zeam is lightweight and fast. Also, keep the number of homescreen and widgets to a minimum, only the ones that you need. I also think auto rotation of the screen consumes a lot of power (I may be wrong). Is you phone new? It takes a few discharge/charge cycle before the battery achieves its full potential. Turn off WCMDA when you're not using it (use only GSM). Turn off WiFi, Bluetooth and GPS when not in use.
These are the things that I'm doing and my battery lasts 2 days with heavy texting (when I say heavy, it's 100+ text messages sent a day plus 200+ text messages received), music (1-2 hours when travelling), 1-2 hours talk time per day and a few games. I also use navigation and facebook from time to time. I use Zeam and I have 4 homescreens and 4 widgets open (APNdroid, Clock wdgt, Power Control, XPERIA Flashlight)
pabling19 said:
My suggestion is to stop using autokill apps (if you're on eclair). Just kill apps manually when you feel like your phone is slowing down. What launcher are you using? Zeam is lightweight and fast. Also, keep the number of homescreen and widgets to a minimum, only the ones that you need. I also think auto rotation of the screen consumes a lot of power (I may be wrong). Is you phone new? It takes a few discharge/charge cycle before the battery achieves its full potential. Turn off WCMDA when you're not using it (use only GSM). Turn off WiFi, Bluetooth and GPS when not in use.
These are the things that I'm doing and my battery lasts 2 days with heavy texting (when I say heavy, it's 100+ text messages sent a day plus 200+ text messages received), music (1-2 hours when travelling), 1-2 hours talk time per day and a few games. I also use navigation and facebook from time to time. I use Zeam and I have 4 homescreens and 4 widgets open (APNdroid, Clock wdgt, Power Control, XPERIA Flashlight)
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do this and in addion add some system apps that keep reopening to the task killers ignore list. Like for me for some reason the settings app opens 2 mins after i kill it, wasting battery. So i set it to ignore
I found that lowering CPU Frequency on Standby helps the battery. I squeeze about half a day equaling a day and 1/2 out of phone. To achieve this I use Overclock Widget(it's the only one I tried) and it does the job. Search the market for a CPU tuner that has Standby and Screen On settings. Hope u get results.
my phone lasts for two days now, and used to last only for ten hours. There are two important things to save battery: use 2g and kee gps turned off! I used to let it enabled thinking that if there were no difference if there were no apps using it. Stupid idea...
i'm using JuiceDefender beta
jetpileder said:
i'm using JuiceDefender beta
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I tried it before. Actually I have the donate version, but don't use it anymore. Just use 2g and see what happens.
Green Power
try Green Power Free or Premium

Do you guys use task manager?

Do you guys use task manager? Why or why not?
Sometimes yes...not sure if you really need to with this phone. Just a little OCD on my end
Only when some app is making problems, otherwise no
I often run a kill once at bootup, and then after that only if an app seems to be holding wakelocks or eating excessive CPU.
There is no longer any valid reason for using a task manager for memory management purposes, only for killing wakelock/CPU hogs.
I use Autostart to kill a few things that like to start up on boot, then ATK just for killing wakelock/cpu apps as well.
Mainly FB/Engadget like to stay running when I exit them and cause my battery to get eaten away.
I usually push the "clear memory" button.
I do along with Advanced Task Killer. It kind of nice to know less things is running in the background eatting battery...
ahh, thanks for the reply. cause i was wondering if i should have it as a widget (to clear memory faster) or not (save battery).
I use it when apps are misbehaving or my phone is warm. Mostly its the engadget app.. It runs cpu at like 70% when in background for some stupid reason.
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pham818 said:
ahh, thanks for the reply. cause i was wondering if i should have it as a widget (to clear memory faster) or not (save battery).
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It's up to you if you want to put it as a wigget for easy access. I myself don't, because I hate clutter screen. It only take me 5 seconds to navigate to it.
All the time. just to make sure nothing drains my battery and nothing (especially Browser) is not continuously access internet when I outside WiFi.
Rarely. like others I use one to check and kill misbehaving apps.
I freeze or uninstall most unused apps and disable startup on some.
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I use the default one in go launcher.
pham818 said:
Do you guys use task manager? Why or why not?
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Not really. I use watchdog task manager to keep an eye on things (with a fairly low threshold - 30%), and it does a really good job. I also use Autostarts to stop a few things from starting up at all.

Battery Performance

Hi Guys,
I am using xperia sola from last twenty days.....:good: but the battery performance is very bad:crying: when i checked my battery usage, analysis came out that more than 50% of battery is getting used by display....so to cut down that i have started using picture wallpaper instead of live wallpaper but to my surprise i came to know that Live wallpaper is running in the background which is still consuming my battery.
Battery is lasting for less than 24 hours.
help me to resolve particular issue.
dvaraiya said:
Hi Guys,
I am using xperia sola from last twenty days.....:good: but the battery performance is very bad:crying: when i checked my battery usage, analysis came out that more than 50% of battery is getting used by display....so to cut down that i have started using picture wallpaper instead of live wallpaper but to my surprise i came to know that Live wallpaper is running in the background which is still consuming my battery.
Battery is lasting for less than 24 hours.
help me to resolve particular issue.
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either the apps running behind the background or the 3G
is the no.1 battery killer
use advanced task killer to kill task or disable those autorun apps
steason said:
either the apps running behind the background or the 3G
is the no.1 battery killer
use advanced task killer to kill task or disable those autorun apps
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Task killer won't help, those tasks will come back and make it even worst for the juice they use for initation.
Disable data, or use 2G only (turn 3G back on when you really nead it). Or you can search in this forum the way to do it automatically .
For the live wallpaper issue, just uninstall it
Bright
You should try reducing the bright, Hight bright eats all the phone battery...
steason said:
either the apps running behind the background or the 3G
is the no.1 battery killer
use advanced task killer to kill task or disable those autorun apps
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Thanks for your reply....
when i am checking in task killer to kill live wallpaper task, i am unable to find. seems it is in built with sony xperia sola hence wont be able to kill..any other suggestion to improve battery life?
Hungbi said:
Task killer won't help, those tasks will come back and make it even worst for the juice they use for initation.
Disable data, or use 2G only (turn 3G back on when you really nead it). Or you can search in this forum the way to do it automatically .
For the live wallpaper issue, just uninstall it
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I am unable to uninstall live wallpaper seems it is in built aaplication by SONY. any other way out.
dvaraiya said:
I am unable to uninstall live wallpaper seems it is in built aaplication by SONY. any other way out.
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just choose a static background, reduse screen brightness and usage. Today's smartphones need juice. Consider buying a spare battery
d3ac0n_luna said:
just choose a static background, reduse screen brightness and usage. Today's smartphones need juice. Consider buying a spare battery
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Screen brightness is going to be your number one killer. Also, if you're using WiFi/3G/4G all day long that will kill your battery too. Finally, if you're playing games that use a bunch of graphics that utilize your phone's hardware (openGL, unreal engine, etc.) it will drain your battery pretty fast.
I have seen an article somewhere saying that live wallpapers don't actually consume as much battery as people make them out to be, and i found this to be true, i got 5 days out of my Optimus 2X (no sim card inside) and it had a live wallpaper, what consumes the most battery is the screen itself (reduce brightness to get better battery life while using the phone) and data on 3G (i always turn off data when i don't use it) and i normaly get 2 days out of my Optimus 2X (1 day of heavy usage).
Thank you for the info whoever provided here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1179809
Try or start with this app above and hunt for apps that syncing/updating in the background and basically you need to make a dumb phone out of your smartphone. Disable all autosyncs/notifications in the setting and apps like Facebook disable notifications. Open up Google play>settings and uncheck all default checked settings. Disable gmail/email notifications. Disable auto backup/restore. Disable all location services/vibrations/sounds when typing/wifi or GPS or BT when not in use. Disable data or stick with 2g in standby mode. Find a custom ROM that usually will be much better with battery management.
That's in a nutshell of how I can basically keep my phone draining 1% per hour on standby mode.
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A suggession try an app called juice defender
Free available n the paid one is awesome... I am not saying saying will get 100% increase but 30~40% INCREASE is observed by me and well something is better than nothing... M using the paid version bt the free one is equally good.. Oh yeah one thing.. Download.. Thn customise.. N forget it because its fully automatic...
Hit thanks if u like my research
~RR
I highly recommend GO Power Master: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.gau.go.launcherex.gowidget.gopowermaster
It lets you customize power profiles and set "sleep" cycles so that it uses minimal power when you're not using it anyway (I set mine to just be phone/text from 11pm until 7am).
It also has a "smart kill" button on the widget (which you don't have to use) that will prolong battery life by killing apps that are doing nothing. I know there's a lot of argument about app/task killers out there, but it's always worked well for me.
Adjust screen brightness to 0 (dim)
use dark wallpaper
disable gps, bluetooth , wifi when not in use and also air plane mode during night time
and also clear running apps with task manager:good:
Also you could try GSam Battery Monitor Pro, it will show you which process are using %'s of power
Try this one
dvaraiya said:
Hi Guys,
I am using xperia sola from last twenty days.....:good: but the battery performance is very bad:crying: when i checked my battery usage, analysis came out that more than 50% of battery is getting used by display....so to cut down that i have started using picture wallpaper instead of live wallpaper but to my surprise i came to know that Live wallpaper is running in the background which is still consuming my battery.
Battery is lasting for less than 24 hours.
help me to resolve particular issue.
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Hello! I see that u got a problem with ur battery i am really understand u because i have Xperia x10 mini and my battery sucks too!
Try this one(install and press BALANCE and press Keep Launcher in Memory) this will helps u to save 10% of battery!
If i helped u PRESS THX BUTTON !
GOOD LUCK man)
Android smartphones are last for less than 24 hours of heavy use.
Solution: root the phone, remove bloatware and install custom kernel and custom ROM that fits your phone for better performance.
phxal said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1179809
Try or start with this app above and hunt for apps that syncing/updating in the background and basically you need to make a dumb phone out of your smartphone. Disable all autosyncs/notifications in the setting and apps like Facebook disable notifications. Open up Google play>settings and uncheck all default checked settings. Disable gmail/email notifications. Disable auto backup/restore. Disable all location services/vibrations/sounds when typing/wifi or GPS or BT when not in use. Disable data or stick with 2g in standby mode. Find a custom ROM that usually will be much better with battery management.
That's in a nutshell of how I can basically keep my phone draining 1% per hour on standby mode.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using xda app-developers app
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First, excuse me for my bad english. I'll try to said something and I expect would not to be an offense to you . . . It would to be easy to turn of the phone . . . no?
Of course I have to do something of this things, but If it's necessary to do all of them . . . it would be better to don't have a smartphone . . .
debanikonline said:
A suggession try an app called juice defender
Free available n the paid one is awesome... I am not saying saying will get 100% increase but 30~40% INCREASE is observed by me and well something is better than nothing... M using the paid version bt the free one is equally good.. Oh yeah one thing.. Download.. Thn customise.. N forget it because its fully automatic...
Hit thanks if u like my research
~RR
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Juice Defender functions only if you have you phone a lot of time inactive . . . It functions turning of your conections in inactivity period and olnly turns it on in few intervals depending of your profile . . . It's very good, but if you want your cell phone conected every time . . . this is not a solution . . .
mikheyl.david said:
Android smartphones are last for less than 24 hours of heavy use.
Solution: root the phone, remove bloatware and install custom kernel and custom ROM that fits your phone for better performance.
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This is true, but with patience and experience you can have your cell phone stable in a few time
I have a Samsung Galaxy Ace and I found a Rom with very long battery stability vs al other roms . . . I hope you to find yours!!.
Sorry for my very, very bad english!!
Battery
mikheyl.david said:
Android smartphones are last for less than 24 hours of heavy use.
Solution: root the phone, remove bloatware and install custom kernel and custom ROM that fits your phone for better performance.
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I agree 100%. Root and ROM help heal the battery issues.
dvaraiya said:
Hi Guys,
I am using xperia sola from last twenty days.....:good: but the battery performance is very bad:crying: when i checked my battery usage, analysis came out that more than 50% of battery is getting used by display....so to cut down that i have started using picture wallpaper instead of live wallpaper but to my surprise i came to know that Live wallpaper is running in the background which is still consuming my battery.
Battery is lasting for less than 24 hours.
help me to resolve particular issue.
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You are using stock firmware or custom?

How do I detect wakelocks inside of applications ?

Gents....
In the quest for battery life and RAM enhancements, and the fact that many applications use wake locks to keep themselves active in the RAM.....is there an easy method to identify which apps contain wake locks ?
I can see active apps easy enough, but does that state simply mean a wake lock is present ??
A little info from a dev or two would be much appreciated.......g
Bump....
gregsarg said:
Gents....
In the quest for battery life and RAM enhancements, and the fact that many applications use wake locks to keep themselves active in the RAM.....is there an easy method to identify which apps contain wake locks ?
I can see active apps easy enough, but does that state simply mean a wake lock is present ??
A little info from a dev or two would be much appreciated.......g
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Not sure there's an extra easy way... Nonetheless, check out BetterBatteryStats, if you haven't done so already? It does detect Kernel as well as partial Wakelocks. Here's a link that should help: http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/Wakelocks
Also, if I remember correctly, you can open your favorite terminal emulator and type:
Su
dumpsys power
Your TE should display any at this point, and if your TE has a zero in the last two lines, there shouldn't be anything you need to worry about.
As far as RAM goes, Android has managed it well since Froyo 2.2, so its not really a concern that's worth your time. Nevertheless, I still find myself manually shutting down apps that I don't want held in RAM with SystemPanel or Taskiller anyway, d'oh! It's a bad habit - OCD problem for me, lol.., due to many years with Windows Mobile. Bottom-line is that Android will end idle app - process tasks as needed without our help, lol... and I'm sure you know that too.
In regard to battery life, here with Saurom 7.1, the display, mobile data, cell use, and cell standby, as well as an add-on ProximityScreenOff Pro app, consume the vast majority of the battery juice. That said, if I set wifi to sleep when the display is off and shut down mobile data, the battery life and deep sleep % increases dramatically.
Hope this helps a little...
Best to all,
R
Wakelock detector app
gregsarg said:
Gents....
In the quest for battery life and RAM enhancements, and the fact that many applications use wake locks to keep themselves active in the RAM.....is there an easy method to identify which apps contain wake locks ?
I can see active apps easy enough, but does that state simply mean a wake lock is present ??
A little info from a dev or two would be much appreciated.......g
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You can check "Wakelock Detector" app which is available in Google Play
It has a simple UI which shows detail list of acquired wakelocks per each application
and as you mentioned, it shows active running apps on the top, which might have wakelock present at the moment.

Killing apps with Clean Master?

The app Clean Master claims it can extend battery life and device performance by killing apps--even offering a button to kill all apps. I thought killing apps was unnecessary since Android does this automatically when RAM is full and that killing apps manually actually drains battery life. What's the deal? Is swiping an app away from the Recent Apps List the same as killing an app? I currently do this often because the list is usually packed.
Thanks.
Clean Master actually does increase performance of your device, especially and lower end ones that have 512mb of ram to work with. However, this also decreases battery life by very little. Android does kill task automatically however as you said it waits until the memory is full which leads to a lot of lag and sluggishness. Swiping an app from the recent apps I believe does kill it. Personally instead of swiping my ROM supports "hardware back to kill" in which I hold down my back button to kill the app. It seemed to do a much better job than swiping.
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obscuresword said:
Clean Master actually does increase performance of your device, especially and lower end ones that have 512mb of ram to work with. However, this also decreases battery life by very little. Android does kill task automatically however as you said it waits until the memory is full which leads to a lot of lag and sluggishness. Swiping an app from the recent apps I believe does kill it. Personally instead of swiping my ROM supports "hardware back to kill" in which I hold down my back button to kill the app. It seemed to do a much better job than swiping.
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So Clean Master does "decrease battery life by very little" and the claim that it saves battery life through killing apps is incorrect? This is at the expense of increased performance only if RAM is full, too. It seems that the term "killing apps" is very misleading even for Android users as it actually uses more battery life to kill the apps rather than leave them alone (because they use little to no resources in the background). If this is truly the case, then I guess I shouldn't worry too much about killing apps until my RAM is full and I experience lag. Still, I find it kind of surprising that such a highly rated and popular app claims one thing and does the other.
On a semi-unrelated note, is there some mod I can install on top of a ROM I'm using that lets me kill an app or display the Recent Apps List by long-pressing menu/back button? Or must I install a ROM that has this built-in feature?
Thanks.
mindstormer said:
So Clean Master does "decrease battery life by very little" and the claim that it saves battery life through killing apps is incorrect? This is at the expense of increased performance only if RAM is full, too. It seems that the term "killing apps" is very misleading even for Android users as it actually uses more battery life to kill the apps rather than leave them alone (because they use little to no resources in the background). If this is truly the case, then I guess I shouldn't worry too much about killing apps until my RAM is full and I experience lag. Still, I find it kind of surprising that such a highly rated and popular app claims one thing and does the other.
On a semi-unrelated note, is there some mod I can install on top of a ROM I'm using that lets me kill an app or display the Recent Apps List by long-pressing menu/back button? Or must I install a ROM that has this built-in feature?
Thanks.
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Any task killing app such as auto memory manager, clean master, and so on decreases battery life, because it always using background resources. However, you most likely will never notice the difference in battery life lost since it is so negligible. I'm honestly not sure. I did a little bit of research and it usually pointed to that this function had to be in the framrwork of the rom. So my guess is you'd either have to modify the existing framework of a stock rom or just download a rom like Cyangonmod.

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