Alright, after countless of googles, I decided to turn to the one place I'm sure to find an answer. Here's the deal: I'm a tech-geek, and I get bored with stuff every so often. To be honest, I had five different phones the last year, starting with an Xperia X1, heading onto an X10, X10 mini pro, iPhone 4 - to eventually land with an Optimus One. I don't know how I got stuck with that phone, but I rather like it!
Now recently I lost my job - I'm not in any trouble as I got a new job already, however my next few paychecks will have to be spent on other things than phones. As you may notice, I'm good at drifting away, so - as I was saying - here's the deal:
I want Windows Phone 7 on my Android Device. To be honest, I'm getting tired of Android, it offers no variety (yeah, I know there are launchers, homecooked roms and all that - that's not what I'm looking for). It's the same thing day in day out, and I want to change! Now I discovered how amazing Windows Phone 7 is, I actually find it astonishing how Microsoft managed to pull it off, but hey - congrats! Anyhow, is there a way to get Windows Phone 7 on this device? I know it was done on the HTC HD2, so it should be possible, riiight? I'll let you guys discuss it - I sure hope it's possible.
Yeah I hope dual boot android with windows phone 7 on optimus one:-D.
I seriously doubt that is gonna happen.
you can do out when you develop it yourself.best of luck you.
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HTC HD2 was originally a Windows phone (WM 6.5) so thats probably why its possible to port Windows Phone 7 to it, and also because of the popularity of the device and hardwork of the devs.
I doubt that an original android phone will be able to run windows phone 7 in the near future, even less a low spec phone like O1. ( i cud be wrong tho.. )
pachuau86 said:
HTC HD2 was originally a Windows phone (WM 6.5) so thats probably why its possible to port Windows Phone 7 to it, and also because of the popularity of the device and hardwork of the devs.
I doubt that an original android phone will be able to run windows phone 7 in the near future, even less a low spec phone like O1. ( i cud be wrong tho.. )
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What ... HTC HD2 ... is a ... Windows phone ??!
OK ... that's good info.
yup HTC HD2 is a Windows Mobile 6.5 phone to be exact
in the previous post, i meant that it was a phone running windows and not talking about the OS 'Windows Phone 7', hence the reason for the small letter.
Paraflax said:
Alright, after countless of googles, I decided to turn to the one place I'm sure to find an answer. Here's the deal: I'm a tech-geek, and I get bored with stuff every so often. To be honest, I had five different phones the last year, starting with an Xperia X1, heading onto an X10, X10 mini pro, iPhone 4 - to eventually land with an Optimus One. I don't know how I got stuck with that phone, but I rather like it!
Now recently I lost my job - I'm not in any trouble as I got a new job already, however my next few paychecks will have to be spent on other things than phones. As you may notice, I'm good at drifting away, so - as I was saying - here's the deal:
I want Windows Phone 7 on my Android Device. To be honest, I'm getting tired of Android, it offers no variety (yeah, I know there are launchers, homecooked roms and all that - that's not what I'm looking for). It's the same thing day in day out, and I want to change! Now I discovered how amazing Windows Phone 7 is, I actually find it astonishing how Microsoft managed to pull it off, but hey - congrats! Anyhow, is there a way to get Windows Phone 7 on this device? I know it was done on the HTC HD2, so it should be possible, riiight? I'll let you guys discuss it - I sure hope it's possible.
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Sorry, but can't. only WVGA phones can be WP7.
About hd2 have a look at the hardware specs the phone boasts.
1 GHz Scorpion processor, Adreno 200 GPU, Qualcomm QSD8250 Snapdragon chipset .
quadrant score over 4000 without overclocking that too on 850 Mhz and an [email protected] 1.5 GHZ
and god knows what.
I've seen it's forum it's got win mobile, android, windows phone 7 and Ubuntu too. and guess what kubuntu not to mention but a laggy meego too.
It's had android in nand and it's got windows phone7 in nand.
it's got windows phone 7 in nand and android on sd dual boot.
It's a monster device.
God I'm gonna get one of those.
Guess I wrote too much don't wanna delete it now;-)
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About hd2 have a look at the hardware specs the phone boasts.
1 GHz Scorpion processor, Adreno 200 GPU, Qualcomm QSD8250 Snapdragon chipset .
quadrant score over 4000 without overclocking that too on 850 Mhz and an [email protected] 1.5 GHZ
and god knows what.
I've seen it's forum it's got win mobile, android, windows phone 7 and Ubuntu too. and guess what kubuntu not to mention but a laggy meego too.
It's had android in nand and it's got windows phone7 in nand.
it's got windows phone 7 in nand and android on sd dual boot.
It's a monster device.
God I'm gonna get one of those.
Guess I wrote too much don't wanna delete it now;-)
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definately should but 1 from t mobile it really blows in case of speed its amazing
divyanshu308 said:
About hd2 have a look at the hardware specs the phone boasts.
1 GHz Scorpion processor, Adreno 200 GPU, Qualcomm QSD8250 Snapdragon chipset .
quadrant score over 4000 without overclocking that too on 850 Mhz and an [email protected] 1.5 GHZ
and god knows what.
I've seen it's forum it's got win mobile, android, windows phone 7 and Ubuntu too. and guess what kubuntu not to mention but a laggy meego too.
It's had android in nand and it's got windows phone7 in nand.
it's got windows phone 7 in nand and android on sd dual boot.
It's a monster device.
God I'm gonna get one of those.
Guess I wrote too much don't wanna delete it now;-)
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Ok ... now where the heck is that HTC store
tip tap tip tap ... ( busily searching for the nearest mobile store )
hell1134 said:
Ok ... now where the heck is that HTC store
tip tap tip tap ... ( busily searching for the nearest mobile store )
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Ha ha ha...in general only do visit others forum for knowledge only.
Hd2 Is definitely awesome..
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Ok, just wanted to put this up here.
I come from the legendary HTC HD2 so I know nothing is impossible from win6.5 to android is huge
Do you guys think a port of win8 will be possible? i mean they said 1gb of RAM is enough to run win8... and 1.5GHz should not be a problem if Atom is 1.6GHz, since we can overclock it and stuff..
so, is it possible, or whats talking against it?
Technically, its "possible". But nobody is going to take the time to port Windows8 to the Flyer. Windows is closed source, making porting it over extremely difficult. Plus, there would be no drivers to make the hardware work with the OS. I'm no developer, but the enormous amount of work to overcome these obstacles make them infeasible, compared to simply buying a Windows 8 device (when they become available).
On the other hand, there are developers who will try just for the fun of it. Will it be usuable to the general public? I doubt it....
Somebody tell Microsoft!
Hey this thing is already running a version of Linux, you see any ports to a full blown linux tablet?
Nice idea thou, the new Windows 8 looks to be finger friendly
yeah i know it will be a pain in the arse, but hey - some people like to do this just for the fun and recognition - you know, be the one who finally managed to hack win8 and port it to a android device.
its been done before, and i think many will be donating to help.
its a fun thing.. imagine dual boot
You could install Ubuntu on the Flyer, but for what , I don't know.
Read lots of issues and complaints about W8. Its a ubuntu mini wannabe. Its a nightmare on a pc and probably going to be classified as a cousin to vista. Windows is a mess structuraly compared to Linux, which is Android.
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There are a few reasons why it will never work, most of them people already mentioned
1. You can't compare a 1.6Ghz Intel x86 processor to a 1.6Ghz ARM one, the Flyer is well below the minimum specs.
2. Microsoft will not publicly release their ARM builds, they will only sell them directly to OEMs unlike the desktop version of Windows 8.
3. It's closed source.
4. If someone does miraculously manage to get it running (hey this is xda), functionality will be extremely limited as there is no legacy app support for ARM.
You could install Ubuntu like DigitalMD said and put Win8 on a VM in there.... doubt it would boot though and you would have to find chuck norris and make him round-house kick the lag.
From ALL of the Tablets on the Market, I have checked out ALL of them. The one that I'm the happiest with is the Sprint HTC EVO View Tablet. It's the LOUDEST of ANY & ALL Tablets on the market. Anywhere from a little bit to a lot louder. I know that it's just a 7" screen, but it has the best sound. I would like to get Windows 8 on the HTC EVO View Tablet. i hope that ANYONE can come up with a solution to this. If anyone can come up with a solution to this, then I would put it on the HTC EVO View Tablet ASAP!
It's not possible. Doesn't meet min specs.
We installed it at work on an HP Slate that was running Win7, and it constantly freaked out about the resolution not being high enough. If a device that was meant to run Windows OS is unable to run Win8, it's not going to happen on an Android device. At least not officially.
And considering we can't get an ICS build running, it's a pretty good bet we'll never get Win8 to run.
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It's not possible. Doesn't meet min specs.
We installed it at work on an HP Slate that was running Win7, and it constantly freaked out about the resolution not being high enough. If a device that was meant to run Windows OS is unable to run Win8, it's not going to happen on an Android device. At least not officially.
And considering we can't get an ICS build running, it's a pretty good bet we'll never get Win8 to run.
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I have a slate 500. Did you set it to the higher resolution? Win 8 should work, although the screen is a bit off at the higher resolution.
A bit off topic, I know...
Well that was just one aspect of it.
We weren't able to set the resolution any higher then the max 1024x600. It just wouldn't allow anything higher. It *runs* but anytime you click/swipe etc it vomits error messages.
Still, so many challenges keeping it from happening on the view/flyer. It's a pipe dream.
Yeah this ain't gonna happen. Already got a very good , usable OS.
I"d spend my time improving that and creating better apps
Is it possible looking at hardware? Yes, I think so. The architecture should be fine, as there is an ARM version.
However, what do we need?
-Drivers for Windows 8, and if we want to make this work out correctly, we do need the ability to write drivers ourselves, which is a lot of work.
-A custom bootloader. I hope that, after we get ICS to boot on the Flyer correctly, we can work on a bootloader, as it would be really nice for a real tweakers-tablet, so there might be a possibility for this (not giving an ETA, as I don't know how much work it is and it will take a lot of time, don't get excited on this at all...)
And besides, when we can work on a native Linux-distribution, I don't think it's worth it to work on W8, especially because every way we get it running is not legal. Oh, and let's not forget the work it takes to get it to boot, as it would take quite some magic to get a Windows kernel booting.
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Technically, its "possible". But nobody is going to take the time to port Windows8 to the Flyer. Windows is closed source, making porting it over extremely difficult. Plus, there would be no drivers to make the hardware work with the OS. I'm no developer, but the enormous amount of work to overcome these obstacles make them infeasible, compared to simply buying a Windows 8 device (when they become available).
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and what do you think about windows phone 7 on the HD2? i believe it was extremely hard, but people made it
Big_O said:
Read lots of issues and complaints about W8. Its a ubuntu mini wannabe. Its a nightmare on a pc and probably going to be classified as a cousin to vista. Windows is a mess structuraly compared to Linux, which is Android.
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f**k you... don't write total bull****s here... it's not a noob forum. i didn't see any other complaints except people's noobiness.. they'll get used to the new controls. they're just awesome.
Naysayers always say nay. I'm amazed at the accomplishments @ XDA thus far and have learned never say never. I for one would love to see this happen.
Some people do things because their told it can't be done.
im using the rtm windows 8 right now i gotta say its pretty good ...early builds had issues but they did good quicker smother would be awesome if they could get windows 8 on my VIEW cuz its def built for mobile ...splashtop for now
Big_O said:
Read lots of issues and complaints about W8. Its a ubuntu mini wannabe. Its a nightmare on a pc and probably going to be classified as a cousin to vista. Windows is a mess structuraly compared to Linux, which is Android.
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Technically possilbe, but it's extreemely unlikely to happen. Especially since windows is in no way open source, and the flyer doesn't have that many modders.
So, was browsing the Internet, when I found this..
Canonical has started releasing its own, ARM optimised Ubuntu versions for Android devices...
It runs alongside Android and has access to almost all its apps like Phone, Contacts, User apps etc..
It seems to be basically meant for Dual-Cores and when combined with a docking station, you have a full-fledged Ubuntu running on a Dual-Core chipset which you can view in full screen size on your TV Screen n stuff..
Read more here:
http://www.ubuntu.com/devices/android
http://mobile.theverge.com/2012/2/21/2812424/ubuntu-for-android-hands-on
PS: Don't you, in your wildest dream, think of running it on our lil screens with a Single core, 600mhz processor...
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Wow, exciting! Too bad there's nothing concrete for users to try right now (unless I missed something).
It's sad how they say "In every dual-core phone, there’s a PC trying to get out."
But hey, who needs ubuntu when you have ice cream sandwich (not that I ever bought my phone with the thought of using it as a desktop)
Not At All MEANT for us....
If you read the full articles, it makes quite a lot of sense for a person who moves around a lot. Also the processing power in high-end phones should be enough for the OS to offer a decent experience.
One more reason to hold on to our beloved P500 for one more year and save the upgrade money for a multi-core phone . At least this way, when you upgrade you will be able to really feel the difference.
Thank you!
Greets!
Why not work on p500? Win7 runs on on 1GHz single core... 600MHz for an optimized version of ubuntu should work...
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I think... just because it needs one core to run Ubuntu, and another for android, so that dual-core phones are required
---a fairly silly guess really lol---
kennethso168 said:
I think... just because it needs one core to run Ubuntu, and another for android, so that dual-core phones are required
---a fairly silly guess really lol---
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There is no mobile device that can run 2 OSs in the same boot... you need a lot of ram and tons of cpu... my 2.8GHz can't handle the android emulator...
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But whats the use, even if we *Highly* optimise it, we dont have a docking station nor an HDMI out...
What will you do with a desktop OS on such a small screen??
My suggestion: wait a few years, earn nuff money and buy the best mobile around that can run Android+Chrome OS+Ubuntu+MeeGo+(Windows )+ what not...
Untill then, stick to this sh!t, we got enough development goin here already...
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Hardware requirements:
Dual-core 1GHz CPUVideo acceleration: shared kernel driver with associated X driver; Open GL, ES/EGLStorage: 2GB for OS disk imageHDMI: video out with secondary frame buffer deviceUSB host mode512 MB RAM
Nevermind...
arczangel said:
Hardware requirements:
Dual-core 1GHz CPUVideo acceleration: shared kernel driver with associated X driver; Open GL, ES/EGLStorage: 2GB for OS disk imageHDMI: video out with secondary frame buffer deviceUSB host mode512 MB RAM
Nevermind...
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Aha... yep... n dats why i said not to dream about running it on our phones...
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RockR172 said:
But whats the use, even if we *Highly* optimise it, we dont have a docking station nor an HDMI out...
What will you do with a desktop OS on such a small screen??
My suggestion: wait a few years, earn nuff money and buy the best mobile around that can run Android+Chrome OS+Ubuntu+MeeGo+(Windows )+ what not...
Untill then, stick to this sh!t, we got enough development goin here already...
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Nahh, please leave the Meego, and Windows
But I think my galaxy Nexus will do it. Even better: a galaxy Note
mDroidd said:
Nahh, please leave the Meego, and Windows
But I think my galaxy Nexus will do it. Even better: a galaxy Note
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Haha... yep... but there can be some fanboys... you gotta consider em all...
Note will do it best, you wont even need a docking station or whatever stuff required to connect it to a larger display...
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Its going to be superb, checkout the video demo of Ubuntu on Android , now I need my Tegra3 quad-core
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I have read that ubuntu reguires atleast a 4.0 inch screen which makes it difficult on optimus one !
THIS IS OFF TOPIC, IGNORE IF U WISH.. JUST WRITING MY MIND..
sweetnsour said:
It's sad how they say "In every dual-core phone, there’s a PC trying to get out."
But hey, who needs ubuntu when you have ice cream sandwich (not that I ever bought my phone with the thought of using it as a desktop)
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ahahha...
I honestly bought my phone to play ANGRY BIRDS..!!
thats all..
and today in my college, looking at my phone and all the4 modifications i have made in the months, friends say that i should sell my phone to LG at around 1lac ($2000) and become the brand ambassador for LG O1..
So here i'd like to thank ppl i know who helped me get this praise..
Thanks to
> mik (my 1st custom ROM, Official CM support)
> popdog (sweetest ROM ever)
> luporiph & Arjen (ICS, woah!!)
> Franco & fserve (all be damned if not for them)
> sweetnsour, vlt96 n many others for time to time helps
> capslock for this Reverse Tether
> noobs (make me feel "Like A Boss" )
taranfx said:
Its going to be superb, checkout the video demo of Ubuntu on Android , now I need my Tegra3 quad-core
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Seeing that video makes it obvious that this solution, at this point, is never going to replace a good desktop/laptop. The lag is there and is obvious, but at leat it promises to give you a chance to leave the big hardware at home if you choose to do so.
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Seeing that video makes it obvious that this solution, at this point, is never going to replace a good desktop/laptop. The lag is there and is obvious, but at leat it promises to give you a chance to leave the big hardware at home if you choose to do so.
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Its still in alpha.. and few months later we are gonna see quad cores... so give it sometime.. remember the 1st few alphas of cm9 by lupohirp?? Remember the lags/flickers etc??
Where are they now?? Gone ryt??
Similarly, give ubuntu some time, it will run better...
N dont forget, that video uses a phone running 1ghz dual core thats not OC'd...
So give it sometime, it will be up and running just the way it does on PC...
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The future is already here
There are already lightweight linux distros for embedded systems.
ArchLinuxARM for example runs on devices not much more powerful than our P500s
Pogoplug - 800Mhz ARMv5te 128 MB RAM & NAND
h t t p://archlinuxarm .org/platforms/armv5/pogoplug-series-4
You wouldn't run X on them. That's just eye candy.
But add a external USB hard drive, they become perfect
low power servers for media streaming, automated BT,
automated data backups, small webservers.
h t t p://archlinuxarm .org/support/guides/applications
Anyhoots, once a smartphone is EOL, it might be a good
project to repurpose them for the above tasks.
Oh yah, take a look at the $25 - $35 Raspberry Pi at wikipedia
Started to wander as to whether Windows Phone 8 will be hackable to the quad-core version of the SGS3, perhaps even dual boot.
I know Windows Phone 8 will be multicore compatible, and there's rumours that the SGS3 may host WP8, so is there a valid reason why the AD version of the SGS3 won't have WP8 ported to it?
Windows phone is Closed-Source is it not?
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To each their own.
Tythas said:
Started to wander as to whether Windows Phone 8 will be hackable to the quad-core version of the SGS3, perhaps even dual boot.
I know Windows Phone 8 will be multicore compatible, and there's rumours that the SGS3 may host WP8, so is there a valid reason why the AD version of the SGS3 won't have WP8 ported to it?
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there are rumours that samsung will launch a new windows phone with a similar spec of sgs3 , if that happens then there is a near possibility of having WP(again if there is no copyrights issue). WP8 is no where in the picture yet, time will tell
and what about windows 8 ARM version?
The idea is cool, but I don't want a windows 8 launcher on my phone.
This is a tablet OS
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Why wouldn't want Windows anything on ur phone ?
Well, it appears the new Ativ S looks a lot like the US GS3.
http://news.cnet.com/8301-1035_3-57...s-ativ-s-worlds-first-windows-phone-8-device/
The Ativ S looks awesome. I am very very tempted but I'd be lost without Android. Besides, I've only just got my SGS3
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no way , with windows closed source
if you are thinking on change android to windows 8, dont do that
the actual windows phone 7 have a huge lack of apps
and it is closed like iOS
and it is very hard to jailbreak
Dual boot woudn't be a bad idea... I was always tempted to try Windows Phone but I think without Android I would also be lost. Buying a phone just to try the OS isn't a viable option
This is crap guys, the hardware is more similar to the us-version of sgs3, not to the int. version... Cause MS will set on Dual-Core (maybe S4 SoaC), so its nearly impossible to expect windows phone 8 on our beloved phone, since the SoaC will be more or less incompatible. Just like it was with Galaxy S1 and WP7. If you have the time and aknowledge, you can compile it for the sgs3, but MS wont do anything, since they prefer snapdragon platform.
Licencing
Windows is licenced. This will never happen here.
Although that would be a nice play by MS to sell Windows Phone 8 as a hardware independent OS.
Tythas said:
Started to wander as to whether Windows Phone 8 will be hackable to the quad-core version of the SGS3, perhaps even dual boot.
I know Windows Phone 8 will be multicore compatible, and there's rumours that the SGS3 may host WP8, so is there a valid reason why the AD version of the SGS3 won't have WP8 ported to it?
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Your sources of the rumors are?????
Whoever is spreading that either has very little technical and legal knowledge or is smoking some serious weed!!
Besides, what do you want WP8 for? If you want it so bad, just buy a Lumia, for God's sake. Android is much better than WP8 will ever be, and those who thing otherwise are just lame.
Useless thread.
Top Tip. Pretend you have windows running on your S3 by massively undervolting so its really unstable and requires a reboot every few minutes
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bala_gamer said:
there are rumours that samsung will launch a new windows phone with a similar spec of sgs3 , if that happens then there is a near possibility of having WP(again if there is no copyrights issue). WP8 is no where in the picture yet, time will tell
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Lol no copyright issue? Man you are talking of Microsoft !!! You can only have copyright issues with them lol...
If you want Win8 on your phone buy one with it inside. If Icould I would get definitely rid of Win stuff but I must use it at work. I'm not naive, Google is hell too, but it's a more funny hell than Win and the other one I can't remember the name.
well
comparison of S3 and Ativ S
after comparing ther Ativ S and the S3 i747
both seems to be almost identical apart from physical view and software (well, no LTE on the Ativ) but... both are real close in specs
only diff i can see a part from the LTE is the cpu wich are the same a part from the "krait" identifier
Simonetti2011 said:
Your sources of the rumors are?????
Whoever is spreading that either has very little technical and legal knowledge or is smoking some serious weed!!
Besides, what do you want WP8 for? If you want it so bad, just buy a Lumia, for God's sake. Android is much better than WP8 will ever be, and those who thing otherwise are just lame.
Useless thread.
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So now ativ s is released in few countries now so is it possible?
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Wow, the Ativ S is the first dual core windows phone? Didn't know that
Hi, i have a htc hd2(now with android) and i want to buy a titan. I had wp7 on my hd2, and i like it very much.
What should i do, keep my hd2 or buy a titan?
I replaced my HD2 with a Titan and I'm not sorry for that - better screen, better camera, better battery and obviously faster.
I also like the looks better but it's maybe a bit too large, 4.5" would be a maximum for me.
However, development wise there is no competition. The Titan got it's 1st custom ROM just yesterday... Moreover, it's not clear yet if the Titan will be upgradeable to WP8 which is expected to be released in Q4 this year. I read somewhere that MS will give an answer this month when WP8 will be presented for the first time.
So, if I where you I would wait this month . IF the Titan's future looks assured AND you get it for a good price then yes. This way you may keep it for a year or so and then upgrade to a next generation WP. IF NOT, I would just wait some more and get a WP8 device later this year.
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I replaced my HD2 with a Titan and I'm not sorry for that - better screen, better camera, better battery and obviously faster.
I also like the looks better but it's maybe a bit too large, 4.5" would be a maximum for me.
However, development wise there is no competition. The Titan got it's 1st custom ROM just yesterday... Moreover, it's not clear yet if the Titan will be upgradeable to WP8 which is expected to be released in Q4 this year. I read somewhere that MS will give an answer this month when WP8 will be presented for the first time.
So, if I where you I would wait this month . IF the Titan's future looks assured AND you get it for a good price then yes. This way you may keep it for a year or so and then upgrade to a next generation WP. IF NOT, I would just wait some more and get a WP8 device later this year.
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I keep hearing people doubt that Titan will get WP8...
It has been confirmed, doubted, and confirmed again: Titan and most other devices WILL be upgradeable to 8.
If they go back on their word come release day, with HSPL we'll get WP8 anyway.
There is no reason to not buy the Titan I.
The only bad thing about the Titan is the capacitive buttons. Capacitive buttons are retarded. You will accidentally press back or search while in the middle of a video no matter how hard you try to avoid the damn things. Moreover, I sometimes can't press the back button using one hand, because reaching over with my thumb presses the right side of the screen which screws with the digitizer (the buttons don't seem to have a multitouch digitizer, why would they? But it can be annoying to have to change my grip...)
Yeah yeah WE GET IT capacitive technology is "cool".... now start making physical buttons again dammit.
thank you guys, I think i will get a htc titan in july
The Titan has a 1.5Ghz processor.
The Acer W500 and MSI Windpad 110W tablets have 1Ghz processors. Both run Windows 8 Release Preview smoothly.
Since Windows Phone 8 will be based on the same core and the PC version, it will run on the Titan very well.
This will be Microsoft's advantage going foward as Win8, Phone8, etc are not bloated OS's like Android and iOS which are laggy on dual and quad-core processors.
Yes, some will complain about comparing an AMD processor to a Qualcomm, the analogy fits.
Erik Latranyi said:
The Titan has a 1.5Ghz processor.
The Acer W500 and MSI Windpad 110W tablets have 1Ghz processors. Both run Windows 8 Release Preview smoothly.
Since Windows Phone 8 will be based on the same core and the PC version, it will run on the Titan very well.
This will be Microsoft's advantage going foward as Win8, Phone8, etc are not bloated OS's like Android and iOS which are laggy on dual and quad-core processors.
Yes, some will complain about comparing an AMD processor to a Qualcomm, the analogy fits.
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Hell, the HTC Shift runs 8 @ 800MHz smoothly!
I was torn just like you are and another thing to consider is your HD2 is a T-mobile device and the Titan is AT&T device, so coming from T-mobile to AT&T on you HD2 your signal strength is maxed at EDGE network. That was the final breaking point for me.
I enjoy the titan and really look forward to putting custom ROMs on it, but the HD2 rocked our worlds for so long and is still going strong! I still use my HD2 to stream music off iheartradio with wifi. I refuse to let it go
I am wondering since HTC not interested to give us ICS, will HTC release all the source code necessary to build AOSP ICS for flyer?
I'm keeping my finger cross here. I plan to make a petition for HTC to release source code or at least source code for all the driver.
No. Don't waste your time. If anything petition for a full working honeycomb update. Thanks
j510 said:
No. Don't waste your time. If anything petition for a full working honeycomb update. Thanks
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I think if HTC release the source code, at least we might forgive HTC for not release ICS for Flyer.
kkcheong said:
I think if HTC release the source code, at least we might forgive HTC for not release ICS for Flyer.
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Waste of time, not gonna happen. HTC doesn't own most of the drivers. Other companies like Qualcomm, Broadcomm, etc. own them. The most important thing HTC would do is write a ICS compatible kernel and they never did that for the FLyer so you are asking for vapor.
I think HTC may be out of business in a year or two. Microsoft just banned them from access to Windows 8 and phone. HTC is headed down and out.
I agree HTC is going down but what is the real impact of not being able to produce a phone with windows 8? so the couple of dozens of win mobile users wont buy htc
still, so sad...
I don't understand how they could screw up like this on the tablet market.
They do excellent HW and the Flyer could have sold much better if they have had the proper price and marketing approach. And a dual-core...
HTC has a very good SW layer (Sense), far better than most of the others on the market. When I tried the Samsung stuff, it was not even comparable.
So why aren't they trying harder?
They could have put those $300M in developers and products rather than in beats...
One smart move would be for ASUS to buy HTC: that way they'll create a real strong team, covering the whole line-up of products from phones to PCs.
Any large investment fund interested in my strategy?
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I agree HTC is going down but what is the real impact of not being able to produce a phone with windows 8? so the couple of dozens of win mobile users wont buy htc
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Always nice to get a jab at Microsoft in, but unless Google and friends get their act together on Android updates and app integration with the desktop, Microsoft and Windows RT / 8 are posed to make a big impact on the market over the next 6 months. I'm sure HTC could have used a few hundred million $$ in extra sales for Windows RT phones. HTC management has been making a series of bad business decisions over the past year. They need a change. The market is not very forgiving.
Touchwizis better . Sense only has widgets thatare nice but cause the device to slowdown
Man windows 8 is retarded. What's so wrong with 7? No Aero? Really? And most people who use it say metro is clunky and unnecessary clutter. Google isn't scared of windows 8, microsoft is scared of google, and apple for that matter. How big of an impact will windows 8 be? Well how big is windows phone? Exactly.
I might have met 2 people since 2010 who actually bought a windows phone.
Overall its just too soon for a new os from microsoft. Windows 7 is nothing short of excellent and perfect. And the gap between XP and vista is like 6 years, its only been 3 years since 7 launched. Microsoft is jumping the gun IMO. Honestly I probably won't even get it. At its core its just "6.2" and still windows vista based so I don't see how its necessary for a PC.
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Man windows 8 is retarded. What's so wrong with 7? No Aero? Really? And most people who use it say metro is clunky and unnecessary clutter. Google isn't scared of windows 8, microsoft is scared of google, and apple for that matter. How big of an impact will windows 8 be? Well how big is windows phone? Exactly.
I might have met 2 people since 2010 who actually bought a windows phone.
Overall its just too soon for a new os from microsoft. Windows 7 is nothing short of excellent and perfect. And the gap between XP and vista is like 6 years, its only been 3 years since 7 launched. Microsoft is jumping the gun IMO. Honestly I probably won't even get it. At its core its just "6.2" and still windows vista based so I don't see how its necessary for a PC.
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Don't be a hater.
Try logic and actual facts, not religion.
Actually, Android, while popular is a bit retarded .
4 Years into android and 6 incarnations later, the Android crowd still cannot figure out how to update more than 10% of its devices.
Microsoft releases new updates every Tuesday.
Intel says Android not ready for multiple-core processors. I have pointed this out many times in the forum.
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Intel-says-Android-not-ready-for-multiple-core-processors_id31076
HTC's poor s'ales record has been noticed by Microsoft. MS does not want HTC to build its first Windows 8 tablets.
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Weak-...tablet_id31074
"Resistance is futile, you will be assimilated..."
Follow the Microsoft policy of world domination, of you cannot be #1 in a market, don't enter the market (or buy the competition).
I do honestly believe HTC is heading down a bad road. I'm not sure what happened to them. They used to be the truly innovative and hands down best smartphone maker, and made some great windows mobile devices as well as the first ever android phone, and the first google phone. And then they made the EVO 4G, and afterwards everything went to hell. Too many HTC Ecstasy HD names, and too many clones of the same thing. Even the sequel to the EVO, the EVO 3D was a disappointment. And as for the tablets, they pretty much went straight into the market without researching it first, at least thats what it seemed like, but to be fair android tablets really are just now getting to the point where they are worth buying, as many of the old ones would cost the same price with weaker hardware than an ipad, or more if you got one equivalent to. The Flyer was no exception either. And why in gods name would anyone want a blackberry rip off that runs android and has a facebook button? Too many stupid products and clones of the same thing, thats why HTC is where it is now, and why Samsung has made the past 2 google phones.
And I really don't get why they thing sense 4.0 is less intrusive, its every bit as intrusive as the sense 3.6 that is running on my phone. They made a few graphic tweaks, and removed the clutter from the notification bar, and called it less intrusive pretty much. Overall if you want a more pure google experience HTC is still the last manufacturer you buy a phone from. I mean overall yeah the only way to get a pure google experience is buying a nexus no doubt, but for example after you get past the iphone-ish look of the launcher, touchwiz isn't very intrusive at all. HTC really seems to make you want to forget your using android and your using sense os instead.
That being said I don't hate sense, its actually grown on me quite a bit, but one thing I do notice on my Vivid, is if you dare to use a 3rd party application instead of a sense one, expect nothing but problems. You change the launcher, you'll constantly get the "launch by default" popup every time you hit the home button. You change the keyboard you get lag. You wanna use GOSMS instead of the text messenger built in, its slow to load, and seems bugger than you remember it on your Samsung phone.
DigitalMD said:
Don't be a hater.
Try logic and actual facts, not religion.
Actually, Android, while popular is a bit retarded .
4 Years into android and 6 incarnations later, the Android crowd still cannot figure out how to update more than 10% of its devices.
Microsoft releases new updates every Tuesday.
Intel says Android not ready for multiple-core processors. I have pointed this out many times in the forum.
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Intel-says-Android-not-ready-for-multiple-core-processors_id31076
HTC's poor s'ales record has been noticed by Microsoft. MS does not want HTC to build its first Windows 8 tablets.
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Weak-...tablet_id31074
"Resistance is futile, you will be assimilated..."
Follow the Microsoft policy of world domination, of you cannot be #1 in a market, don't enter the market (or buy the competition).
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Microsoft releases fixes for Windows once per month, on Tuesdays.
As to HTC releasing the files for ICS, that question assumes that HTC ever had ICS in development for the Flyer or View. I don't think they did.
You guys think there is any possibility of a performance and stability update for honeycomb?
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You guys think there is any possibility of a performance and stability update for honeycomb?
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THIS is what i really want. Not another half azd firmware upgrade
If dual core doesn't make a difference, then why does my buddy's galaxy tab plus with a slower dual core exynos SoC and honeycomb smoke the flyer on just about everything with honeycomb? If dual core doesn't matter, then it's all on a lazy half assed effort from HTC. There is some truth to it as the jetstream is also laggy.
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If dual core doesn't make a difference, then why does my buddy's galaxy tab plus with a slower dual core exynos SoC and honeycomb smoke the flyer on just about everything with honeycomb? If dual core doesn't matter, then it's all on a lazy half assed effort from HTC. There is some truth to it as the jetstream is also laggy.
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Dual core does matter from what I've seen . I think touchwiz is less cluttered? Than sense. Sense lags like a bbbb
Windows mobile is just way too limited for me. There are moments I think it is cool but it bores me after using a device for 15 minutes
Flyer
DigitalMD said:
Waste of time, not gonna happen. HTC doesn't own most of the drivers.
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Own what drivers?
DigitalMD said:
I think HTC may be out of business in a year or two. Microsoft just banned them from access to Windows 8 and phone
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Rubbish. They didn't get pre access to windows 8 (according to microsoft because they don't have much experience in tablets), but once Windows 8 is out HTC could make as many as they want (but lets face it who would want a windows 8 tablet anyway)
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DigitalMD said:
Don't be a hater.
Try logic and actual facts, not religion.
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Remember that when you make up stuff.
DigitalMD said:
Actually, Android, while popular is a bit retarded .
4 Years into android and 6 incarnations later, the Android crowd still cannot figure out how to update more than 10% of its devices.
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They could if they wanted to, but:
1. New software doesn't always run on old outdated hardware. Its been that way for decades.
2. 99% of users don't give a crap about what version of Android they are running. Many normal people don't know what version of OS there is on the phone, or even WHAT OS it is.
You want new stuff, buy new stuff - that's how capitalism works.
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Intel says Android not ready for multiple-core processors.
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Because they are not making multiple core processors and are desperately trying to sell their single core stuff.
DigitalMD said:
I HTC's poor s'ales record has been noticed by Microsoft. MS does not want HTC to build its first Windows 8 tablets.
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Weak-...tablet_id31074
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Exactly, their first, they haven't been banned from doing it if they want.
Perhaps they'll just stop with the tablets and focus on the phones.
Everybody is raving about their new HTC ONE line.
Kermode said:
Own what drivers?
Rubbish. They didn't get pre access to windows 8 (according to microsoft because they don't have much experience in tablets), but once Windows 8 is out HTC could make as many as they want (but lets face it who would want a windows 8 tablet anyway)
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Remember that when you make up stuff.
They could if they wanted to, but:
1. New software doesn't always run on old outdated hardware. Its been that way for decades.
2. 99% of users don't give a crap about what version of Android they are running. Many normal people don't know what version of OS there is on the phone, or even WHAT OS it is.
You want new stuff, buy new stuff - that's how capitalism works.
Because they are not making multiple core processors and are desperately trying to sell their single core stuff.
Exactly, their first, they haven't been banned from doing it if they want.
Perhaps they'll just stop with the tablets and focus on the phones.
Everybody is raving about their new HTC ONE line.
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Yep. Intel is being lame and spewing BS.
Dual core makes a difference. You want proof install watchdog on a device with a dual core and without a dual core. The single core model will get alerts of apps that are misbehaving and using too much CPU, the dual core never well, as no app can seem to use that much CPU.
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