In system info under quadrant it only shows as 1 core.
Is this just the software being dumb?
Does anyones show as 2?
The first question i would ask is can Quadrant work on two cores does it know what two cores are .
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hello everyone...
i noticed on quadrant in system information that in cpu info is sais...
name : armv7.....
max freq:...
min freq:....
cores: 1 (shouldnt it be 2 here)????????????????
also how much total memory does the galaxy s2 has?
857mbs???
[email protected]@xyS said:
hello everyone...
i noticed on quadrant in system information that in cpu info is sais...
name : armv7.....
max freq:...
min freq:....
cores: 1 (shouldnt it be 2 here)????????????????
also how much total memory does the galaxy s2 has?
857mbs???
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Simple answer - Quadrant is garbage...
Also, its in no way designed for use on dual core phones.
So I'm reliably informed.
...waiting for an sgs2 tegra 2 !
Tegra 2 Information
conantroutman said:
Simple answer - Quadrant is garbage...
Also, its in no way designed for use on dual core phones.
So I'm reliably informed.
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so thats one more reason to not believe quadrqant cause i overclocked my phone in the same freq and voltages as other users in here and i take very small scores in quadrant...
(•.•) said:
...waiting for an sgs2 tegra 2 !
Tegra 2 Information
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keep that garbage out of my phone
I just got my SGS2 today and was so eager I had it rooted within 2 hours of it being placed in my hands. I was messing around in quadrant and clicked System Information..I scrolled to the CPU section and by Cores it says 1..but my friends sgs2 says 2 cores. He has the Sprint model.
Now why does it say I only have 1 core when this phone has 2?
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Ensomniacc said:
I just got my SGS2 today and was so eager I had it rooted within 2 hours of it being placed in my hands. I was messing around in quadrant and clicked System Information..I scrolled to the CPU section and by Cores it says 1..but my friends sgs2 says 2 cores. He has the Sprint model.
Now why does it say I only have 1 core when this phone has 2?
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Because sometimes depending on the service providor some details
shown are not as specific as with other service providors.
Now if your friend was on AT&T like you you noticed
this difference then it would be a different matter.
Depends on your current frequency... when mine is 500MHz or higher, Quadrant returns 2 cores... when running low frequencies, it will return value of 1 core. If you load up a few apps, then jump over to Quadrant, it will most likely show 2 cores as your CPU frequency will be higher.
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The exynos cores on our phones run asynchronous - when not needed one of the cores will power down, and as soon as it is needed it will ramp up. so just as the poster above posted when the first processor throttles down the second will shut off to save power, there is no need for two processors running using battery when demand for them is low.
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DoctorQMM said:
Depends on your current frequency... when mine is 500MHz or higher, Quadrant returns 2 cores... when running low frequencies, it will return value of 1 core. If you load up a few apps, then jump over to Quadrant, it will most likely show 2 cores as your CPU frequency will be higher.
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Not exactly depending on frequency... I don't remember the exact hotplugging heuristic.
But in general - The second core is shut off by default and only gets powered on when under load.
Note that some dual-core phones (like Atrix) always show two cores because they are unable to fully remove the second core from a system and completely shut it down to save power. (Well, I assume the Atrix - I know the Tegra in my Tab 10.1 can't hotplug the second core out/in.)
I figured I would run quadrant stand and see what I got and I got some interesting results. I got a score of 1830 which is a little bit less then what people have gotten on my phone the Samsung Galaxy Prevail which is a lowend single core 800 MHz Qualcomm MSM7627-3 plus the phone only has 384megs of ram. On top of that quarant says the device only has 1 core so Im not sure whats going on with that
I really don't care for quadrant -- at all. It provides far too divergent results on different devices of the same model/SW, it often does not use all available resources to test a device, and I find its results far too inconsistent to be worth regarding as anything other than a random grouping of numbers.
Im just wondering what other apps see the cpu as 1 core and not the dualcore it really is like quadrant does.
This section is not for discussions like this. This is more suited to the general section.
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Montisaquadeis said:
Im just wondering what other apps see the cpu as 1 core and not the dualcore it really is like quadrant does.
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The Nook Tablet usually turns off the second core in order to conserve battery power. I don't know what the conditions are wherein it will spin up the other core.
hmm could be why some apps are a bit slower then others. and why a lowend smartphone is getting better quadrant scores then this dualcore of a monster
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I figured I would run quadrant stand and see what I got and I got some interesting results. I got a score of 1830 which is a little bit less then what people have gotten on my phone the Samsung Galaxy Prevail which is a lowend single core 800 MHz Qualcomm MSM7627-3 plus the phone only has 384megs of ram. On top of that quarant says the device only has 1 core so Im not sure whats going on with that
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Mine got 2140. And a phone with a 800 mhz processor cant reach that unless it is rooted and overclocked. Only on CPU i got around 1500 points. So that means with custom rom the graphics can be improved and with overclock i think it will be able to reach at least around 3500. And quadrant its not so accurate either.
If you check this thread you will see a couple of people that are running CM7 have gotten 1900-2100 scores
http://androidforums.com/galaxy-prevail-all-things-root/479489-quadrant-score.html
Hello XDA,
I was just wondering if anyone else have encountered the same issue (not sure if it is an issue).
When I run Quadrant Benchmark, there is only 8 CPU showing. I have googled and have seen a few videos shows 12 CPU during a Quadrant Benchmark.
I have attached screenshots of the information Quadrant Benchmark shows.
Also Quadrant seems to only show 1 Core in System Information.
Not sure that the device being a refurb would have anything to do with it. But I just want to make sure that I am getting the most out of my phone, and may be also possibly increases by benchmark scores to the 4000-5000 range as even with just 8 CPU I am averaging between 3000-4000 benchmark points.
Any clarification and assistance would be greatly appreciated.
Thank you in advance!!!
I think you're quite confused . The "8 CPUs" are the number of tests it runs to test the CPU portion. Could be as simple as they previously used 12 tests but have now managed to test the same things with 8 tests. You phone doesn't have 8 CPUs
Quadrant often only displays 1 core because the other "sleeps" when not needed. Once the demand for more power is there it'll wake the second core.
If you want higher scores you can overclock, change governor, etc. but really benchmark scores are meaningless
Quadrant was updated several months ago and the number of CPU tests was reduced to 8 from 12. See this post (its a june 2010 post) http://www.aurorasoftworks.com/products
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Hello All, Thank you to the both of you for the clarification and guidance. Much appreciated!!!
Have a great day/night.
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Ok, How do I go about closing this thread? Edit Post maybe?
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I think you're quite confused . The "8 CPUs" are the number of tests it runs to test the CPU portion. Could be as simple as they previously used 12 tests but have now managed to test the same things with 8 tests. You phone doesn't have 8 CPUs
Quadrant often only displays 1 core because the other "sleeps" when not needed. Once the demand for more power is there it'll wake the second core.
If you want higher scores you can overclock, change governor, etc. but really benchmark scores are meaningless
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Beyond [email protected] said:
Ok, How do I go about closing this thread? Edit Post maybe?
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You have to wait for one of the mod's to close it. Maybe they'll close it, now that you've requested it. Or maybe it'll just stay open and get buried, which is fine too.
Pm a mod and request it to be closed.
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My understanding is that you need to edit the title to say [SOLVED] and it will either get buried and die or Red will close it.
Hello everybody,
My friend and me(we have s-on and ics stock last version) when we tried quandrant we usually get 2700 scores.But he told me yesterday he tried different way that he added one line in "buid.prop" and he got 3600 marks quandrant scores
When he opened quandtrant benchmark system information he saw just 1 core is writing.He thought we should see 2 cores because we have 2 cores and ics (even leak)version.
So he wants to added in build.prop ''persist.sys.ui.hw=1'' and he wiped dalvic cache and cache and fix permission then restart system.He checked quandtrant standarts and he saw that 2 cores were writing there and immediately he got run full benchmark and got 3600-3500 marks.So we think that the reason of 2 cores.
But when he checked after 20 min later it was writing again 1 core in quantrand system information.It s chancing by itself.we can get more performans? is it possible to keep it?
I remember some guys talking about cores and they told just check antutu you gonna see 2 cores.Second core works when need it.But my friend added ''persist.sys.ui.hw=1" this line in build.prop and maybe he made 2 cores active So what do you think about it?Maybe somebody try this way and share results with us?
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musti95 said:
Hello everybody,
My friend and me(we have s-on and ics stock last version) when we tried quandrant we usually get 2700 scores.But he told me yesterday he tried different way that he added one line in "buid.prop" and he got 3600 marks quandrant scores
When he opened quandtrant benchmark system information he saw just 1 core is writing.He thought we should see 2 cores because we have 2 cores and ics (even leak)version.
So he wants to added in build.prop ''persist.sys.ui.hw=1'' and he wiped dalvic cache and cache and fix permission then restart system.He checked quandtrant standarts and he saw that 2 cores were writing there and immediately he got run full benchmark and got 3600-3500 marks.So we think that the reason of 2 cores.
But when he checked after 20 min later it was writing again 1 core in quantrand system information.It s chancing by itself.we can get more performans? is it possible to keep it?
I remember some guys talking about cores and they told just check antutu you gonna see 2 cores.Second core works when need it.But my friend added ''persist.sys.ui.hw=1" this line in build.prop and maybe he made 2 cores active So what do you think about it?Maybe somebody try this way and share results with us?
"sorry about my english.it is not perfect "
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The first few pages of this threadhttp://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1616669 talked extensively about dual-core and quadrant scores, and I would say by page 10 it was agreed upon that quadrant really just sucks. Go check it out, maybe that will shine some light for you..
I remember reading about how ICS improved dual core support, and I could have sworn it was on developer.android.com but I can't find the article that explains it now(and too many results to sift thru) - but basically the tweak "persist.sys.ui.hw=1" would have been found in gingerbread roms, because it DID increase performance, however with the way ICS handles the threading of dual-core+ processors that shouldn't do anything.
And before someone comes in here and says this in a not-as-nice way, be careful using quadrant benchmark as a tool- if ONE little detail is different, you will get TOTALLY different results! A different launcher, a different setting, or even having different background processes or having recently run a different app will change the score TOTALLY. Run it 10 times, chances are it will put out wildly different numbers - now go run 10 apps, then go back into quadrant and run it 10 more time - again, wildly different numbers, no consistency.
Besides, all that REALLY matters is your experience - if your score goes up a thousand(consistently somehow) but it doesn't work noticeably smoother, faster, or better- then what does your score matter? You could add 2 more cores, another gig of ram, better gpu - but if you can't NOTICE a difference then what would the point be?
It is easy to find why people added 'persist.sys.ui.hw=1' to gingerbread, but I can't find ANY documentation/posts that give a real reason to add it in an ICS build.. hope this answers your question.
And if anyone can find the link to googles explanation on how ice cream sandwich handles multi-core cpus compared to gingerbread can you PM it to me?
Thanks my friend your answer.Just ı got that if use quandrant benchmark test when ı check system information if ı see 2 core ı get 3500 marks but if ı see just 1 core system informatin ı can get 2700 marks.
So it depents on cores ı see.Its fault of benchmark app or our phone works one core just when need it use second core?