Hi, I'm a noob seeking advice. I rooted my phone a few weeks back just because I could, but haven't really done much with it since. I haven't upgraded from 2.2.1 yet -half because I've been busy and half because I'm shy about bugs.
My question is: since LG claims it's going to release the official upgrade this month, what are the advantages of official upgrade versus unofficial? It seems like every unofficial one has bugs still, so I'd be tempted to go back to official. Also, since I've already rooted it, I'm under the impression that kills official updates. If I want to go back to the official version, would I have to unroot it first or is there a way to just allow the official update to go through?
seokso said:
Hi, I'm a noob seeking advice. I rooted my phone a few weeks back just because I could, but haven't really done much with it since. I haven't upgraded from 2.2.1 yet -half because I've been busy and half because I'm shy about bugs.
My question is: since LG claims it's going to release the official upgrade this month, what are the advantages of official upgrade versus unofficial? It seems like every unofficial one has bugs still, so I'd be tempted to go back to official. Also, since I've already rooted it, I'm under the impression that kills official updates. If I want to go back to the official version, would I have to unroot it first or is there a way to just allow the official update to go through?
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About the 2.3 official update, everyone is waiting for that, since 2.3 unoficial Roms have bugs and unimplemented features. For example, I love the CyanogenMod rom but I had to gave up on it since the the bluetooth is not working for auriculars and for the bluetooth system on my car. The 2.3 official update will solve all the problems for these current unoficial Roms, so if you really need a fully working Rom, better not go for those 2.3 Roms available.
You should not upgrade to 2.2.1 (or 2.2.2) using the regular LG update method. That will "unroot" your phone. There are 2.2.1 and 2.2.2 official unrooted Roms (just google for that, you will find them pretty easy). In that case you won't use the KDZ method but the safer Android Recovery method (avoid using the KDZ!! it's the easiest way to kill your phone!!).
So... if you just want to "unroot" your phone, you can always get the official update back in your phone, by using the KDZ method. KDZ reflashes your phone, and that's why the risk is higher than using the Android Recovery method which one wipes out some things like /system/*
mix em both and they will shine...I hope LG's release sky rocket's mik CM7 rom and then i will permanently switch to CM...they simply rock..
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About the 2.3 official update, everyone is waiting for that, since 2.3 unoficial Roms have bugs and unimplemented features. For example, I love the CyanogenMod rom but I had to gave up on it since the the bluetooth is not working for auriculars and for the bluetooth system on my car.
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That's exactly why I haven't gone for it yet. That and I've heard the GPS is still buggy.
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You should not upgrade to 2.2.1 (or 2.2.2) using the regular LG update method. That will "unroot" your phone.
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I already had the official 2.2.1 before I rooted with GingerBreak, and haven't changed from that. I thought that rooting the phone would automatically block the OTA updates. Is there a way to simply allow the OTA 2.3 update when it comes?
As for kdz versus Android Recovery, everything I've seen around the web for returning to stock says to flash using kdz. Are you talking about using home+vol down+power?
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Hello,
I rooted my phone this week. T-Mobile in my country never provided an update for my T-Mobile G2. So my phone still runs on build 1.76.110.6.
I'm consider to install a custom ROM, because this firmware is really slow :-(
But If I will wait a few weeks and T-Mobile provides the 2.1 update this time, will I still have root access after the OTA update? Or will I lose the root access?
Are there any good and stable, full hardware supported custom ROMs with Android 2.1?
Or what's the best custom ROM at the moment for the HTC Hero/T-Mobile G2?
Bernd
BerndSch said:
Hello,
I rooted my phone this week. T-Mobile in my country never provided an update for my T-Mobile G2. So my phone still runs on build 1.76.110.6.
I'm consider to install a custom ROM, because this firmware is really slow :-(
But If I will wait a few weeks and T-Mobile provides the 2.1 update this time, will I still have root access after the OTA update? Or will I lose the root access?
Are there any good and stable, full hardware supported custom ROMs with Android 2.1?
Or what's the best custom ROM at the moment for the HTC Hero/T-Mobile G2?
Bernd
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1. There is an update for T-mobile - have you ever checked the HTC support page? It is still v1.5 but its an update... (will remove root)
2. 2.1 is unlikely to be released by t-mobile in the next couple of weeks, you're probably be looking at a month or so and I also don't think OTA updates are supported on your current build. Also you will NOT have root and probably won't be able to easily downgrade again to gain root access.
3. There are lots of custom roms try reading the hundreds of other posts asking which 2.1 update to use. They are all about the same stability wise and realistically speed wise too, though some vary to a very minor degree.
How exactly did you get root in the first place? Or are you talking about a recovery image installed?
btdag said:
1. There is an update for T-mobile - have you ever checked the HTC support page? It is still v1.5 but its an update... (will remove root)
2. 2.1 is unlikely to be released by t-mobile in the next couple of weeks, you're probably be looking at a month or so and I also don't think OTA updates are supported on your current build. Also you will NOT have root and probably won't be able to easily downgrade again to gain root access.
3. There are lots of custom roms try reading the hundreds of other posts asking which 2.1 update to use. They are all about the same stability wise and realistically speed wise too, though some vary to a very minor degree.
How exactly did you get root in the first place? Or are you talking about a recovery image installed?
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1) I couldn't download the official update from the HTC website, because you have to provide your serial number. And with my number I'm not allowed to download the update. Because I own an T-Mobile G2 instead of the "real" HTC Hero
2) If I install the latest update from T-Mobile/HTC I lose my root access and it could be hard to get it back again :-( That's bad
To get root on my phone I followed this tutorial:
phandroid.com/2009/08/04/how-to-gain-root-access-on-your-htc-hero/
(there are other similar tutorials out there)
BerndSch said:
1) I couldn't download the official update from the HTC website, because you have to provide your serial number. And with my number I'm not allowed to download the update. Because I own an T-Mobile G2 instead of the "real" HTC Hero
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Have you contacted them about this? The G2 is just a brand name, they are exactly the same phones as the Hero's and T-mobile doesn't actually sell any "Hero" phones just the G2. Therefore, that update is definitely for you.
Alternatively you could install the update using the exe found here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=559622
Once again bear in mind that this wipes your data and will remove root and you may have a hard time getting it back.
btdag said:
Have you contacted them about this? The G2 is just a brand name, they are exactly the same phones as the Hero's and T-mobile doesn't actually sell any "Hero" phones just the G2. Therefore, that update is definitely for you.
Alternatively you could install the update using the exe found here: forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=559622
Once again bear in mind that this wipes your data and will remove root and you may have a hard time getting it back.
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Yes I contacted HTC and the answer was that I had to contact T-Mobile in my country. They told me that I lose the warranty if I install a update from the internet, because THEY didn't provide it.
But in other countries (e.g: Germany) T-Mobile provides this update.
So what should I do now? What's the best solution? Install an official HTC update and lose root access or install on of the custom ROMs out there?
My friend, welcome to the dark side:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=684654
2.1 ROM, super duper quick, backup your apps via titanium back, then restore once you have flashed the new ROM. Maybe a good idea to backup messages etc if you want them
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My friend, welcome to the dark side:
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=684654
2.1 ROM, super duper quick, backup your apps via titanium back, then restore once you have flashed the new ROM. Maybe a good idea to backup messages etc if you want them
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Should I install Nandroid before flashing?
At the moment I "only" have root access and not installed any additional boot loader or other software/firmware.
Would like to try your suggested ROM (Cronos Droid Version 1.3). Do I have to wipe my sd card to install this ROM?
And do you run the Non Overclocked or the Overclocked version?
I have a qeuestion regarding these OTA Updates
[*]My Hero is from Orange UK. But as of now, I m running SuperHero in it. So is it necessary to go back to the stock ROM to get the updates through OTA. Or is it enough to be connected.?
What for the official 2.1 release you mean? If you update you're unlikely to ever get it rooted again (though i'm sure someone will do it in time). But you'll be stuck on 2.1 til HTC update it (unlikely). If I were you i'd just wait for the updates to come from the community.
If you're talking about SuperHero OTA updates just run hte villainrom updater...
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What for the official 2.1 release you mean? If you update you're unlikely to ever get it rooted again (though i'm sure someone will do it in time). But you'll be stuck on 2.1 til HTC update it (unlikely). If I were you i'd just wait for the updates to come from the community.
If you're talking about SuperHero OTA updates just run hte villainrom updater...
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Thanks for the reply. And sorry for being not so clear. Yes, I was referring to Official OTA updates.
Just wanted know whether we have on the orange network or is it suffice if we connected to Internet.?
harsha_aithal said:
I have a qeuestion regarding these OTA Updates
[*]My Hero is from Orange UK. But as of now, I m running SuperHero in it. So is it necessary to go back to the stock ROM to get the updates through OTA. Or is it enough to be connected.?
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If you wanted the official Orange update (presuming it did come OTA), then you would need to be running the official ROM.
SuperHero is gonna be getting an update though which will make it more like the official ROM
I'd strongly advise not to install any stock update, as that will include a new SPL, which will try to prevent you rooting again. Stick with a custom ROM for now, and then you'll be able to grab a 'safe' copy of the final ROM from a dev over here when it's available. That way, you get a final copy but you also keep root.
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If you wanted the official Orange update (presuming it did come OTA), then you would need to be running the official ROM.
SuperHero is gonna be getting an update though which will make it more like the official ROM
I'd strongly advise not to install any stock update, as that will include a new SPL, which will try to prevent you rooting again. Stick with a custom ROM for now, and then you'll be able to grab a 'safe' copy of the final ROM from a dev over here when it's available. That way, you get a final copy but you also keep root.
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Thanks fella. Much appreciated. I am very well aware of the effects of the official ROM Update. I bought my Hero from Orange UK, then I unlocked it and I am using it in India now. So was curious and confused regarding the update. The only thing which custom 2.1 ROMs didn't give me is a 'working exchange sync'. Each time I tried to sync it gives me an error caused by security certs. So I m still relied upon my Black berry for my official emails.
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you would need to be running the official ROM.
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is rather shcoking as I m not able imagine going back to 1.5
Just one Question
i had rooted and flashed the touchscreen fix.
After updating my device wil the root and fix removed?
Yes. Updating your phone to the latest version of the OS from LG will replace the fixed kernel and undo the rooting process. Even worse, the updated versions of 2.2 are not rootable.
Update means - update from LG stock rom?
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Update means - update from LG stock rom?
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Yes. I think that the LG stock ROM is Android 2.2 and the updates that are available over-the-air are 2.2.1 (and maybe 2.2.2?) but those two are not rootable.
So is there any way to get android 2.2.1 without doing any normal update?
Noejn's custom ROM called "Prime" is based on v2.2.1.
This is the link to that thread, read it and see if you can flash the touchscreen fix over this ROM, then maybe it suits your needs.
Looks like the Telus website is ready for the Gingerbread 2.3 update...
Durr: add https and www . telusmobility.com/en/ON/Samsung-Galaxy-S-Fascinate/how-to-002921.shtml
Now if only they'd actually release it
From the page:
As of July 2011, a new firmware version is available for the Samsung Galaxy S Fascinate 3G+. Before you update your smartphone, you need to know your current firmware version.
From the Home screen, tap Applications.
Tap Settings.
Select About phone.
You don't need an upgrade if the:
Firmware version is 2.3.3
Build number is GINGERBREAD.LKF9.
Interesting...the actual update page still says update to 2.2 and takes you to a page about updating to 2.2...of course a couple of weeks ago the update page listed 2.3 but had a dead link...so maybe its actually going to happen in our lifetime
have you tried connecting to kies to see if there's anything there??
Theres a new version of kies on samsung apps today but it didn't get me gingerbread yet. new version is Kies_2.0.2.11071_128_2
Yea.. I updated Kies and still nothing.. hopefully soon.. I grow anxious
I've been totally OCD about update checks lately. I'm driving myself nuts
I was the same way when i first say the update now for 2.3.4 on the update page a few weeks ago...gave up when they switched it back to a link to the 2.2 update...now i think it will be back to a nightly check
interesting, kies is suddenly only reporting my current firmware version and not saying that it's the current one... but not offering anything new yet, hopefully it's a sign of a release and not just a glitch
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interesting, kies is suddenly only reporting my current firmware version and not saying that it's the current one... but not offering anything new yet, hopefully it's a sign of a release and not just a glitch
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Yea.. I noticed that too. I suspect that the server it checks is just not responding, but... fingers crossed
Just checked again.. back to normal. Hopes dashed. :/
That makes me a saaaaaaaaaaaaaad panda
I think they just like toying with us
They're mean now that bell has the SII, it might be time to loose telus.
wow
Been waiting for this myself - checked the NS page and there is an annoucement to get the latest as well. Hopefully I don't have to unroot or disable lagfix before trying ... might disable the lagfix regardless though since that appears to be best practice with any ROM.
Tried but also getting the 'you have the latest firmware' message ... doh!
I gave it a shot, I'm running Bionix-V 1.3.1, and it came up with the message "incompatible device" looks like you'll have to downgrade to the stock rom anyways
..double post, I have no idea how to delete
jpmccarthy said:
Been waiting for this myself - checked the NS page and there is an annoucement to get the latest as well. Hopefully I don't have to unroot or disable lagfix before trying ... might disable the lagfix regardless though since that appears to be best practice with any ROM.
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I gave it a shot, I'm running Bionix-V 1.3.1, and it came up with the message "incompatible device" looks like you'll have to downgrade to the stock rom anyways
out of curiosity, why not just install one of the many custom gingerbread roms out there? they're no longer the bug-ridden hack-fest they were a few months ago. seeing as some of you already are rooted or running a custom rom, i'm interested to know why wait for stock?
i do understand some people prefer to keep their phones in stock and i respect their decision.
edit: i'm personally running Darky's Rom 10.2 on my T959D. Tried CM7 (nightly 67) before as well, and although that was a headache to set up on my fascinate, it was also nice to see the differences between a samsung and aosp rom.
Japots said:
out of curiosity, why not just install one of the many custom gingerbread roms out there? they're no longer the bug-ridden hack-fest they were a few months ago. seeing as some of you already are rooted or running a custom rom, i'm interested to know why wait for stock?
i do understand some people prefer to keep their phones in stock and i respect their decision.
edit: i'm personally running Darky's Rom 10.2 on my T959D. Tried CM7 (nightly 67) before as well, and although that was a headache to set up on my fascinate, it was also nice to see the differences between a samsung and aosp rom.
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How is Darky's any issues running it on a T959D?? Did you follow any particulr guide when installing?
How To for Darky's?
Japots said:
out of curiosity, why not just install one of the many custom gingerbread roms out there? they're no longer the bug-ridden hack-fest they were a few months ago. seeing as some of you already are rooted or running a custom rom, i'm interested to know why wait for stock?
i do understand some people prefer to keep their phones in stock and i respect their decision.
edit: i'm personally running Darky's Rom 10.2 on my T959D. Tried CM7 (nightly 67) before as well, and although that was a headache to set up on my fascinate, it was also nice to see the differences between a samsung and aosp rom.
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Second that - what has made me gun shy is that the Telus Fascinate is actually more like a vibrant or i9000 - so custom ROMs have some risk.
That being said heard so many great things about Darky's - would love a how to from someone with our phone and how it is working ...
Heard from Samsung
Apparently not ready but its weeks away, not months.
I have never had the need but I am considering rooting. One item I am concerned about is the ability to get firmware updates after rooting. Do they still prompt/download? If not what do you guys do about this?
NEVER take a firmware update when you're rooted; thats never a good idea. Devs usually get the updates, cook them in the roms, then you would flash the updated rom over your current (if its same) or flash the newly rooted rom. Alot easier than it sounds, you'll get the hang of it. 9 out of 10 times accepting firmware updates will remove root. Just ask the retards that accepted the 2.3 GB update on their Evo 4G lol. Had to wait abt 3 months for root ...