...to me how they have 2.3.3 and 2.3.4 ROM's for the captivate but here we stand( along with every other version of the us Galaxy S) still in the dark with the exception of a 2 incomplete ROM's.... not that I'm ungrateful to that but what is the missing link between the 2 phones that should essentially be almost identical. Right?
Drivers.
We need drivers source.
our gb roms are as good as complete.
We just need gps, drivers, but eugene has said to have fixed it already.
I wouldn't be surprised if we got gb this month...
That would be amazazing (misspelled on purpose lol)
The captivate is lucky on the way their gps is. The GPS is called on the same way that the i9k is while the vibrant does call it the same way. (This is paraphrased from people who know how the GPS binaries are called).
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Is there anyway to mod the fascinate to install front facing camera? I know vibrant has the mod available...why not for fascinate?
This has been discussed several times before... it works on the vibrant because it simply has the room to do and, and it is GSM so the i9000 software works for it. Its just not possible on the fascinate.
Also check this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1014504
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justin94 said:
This has been discussed several times before... it works on the vibrant because it simply has the room to do and, and it is GSM so the i9000 software works for it. Its just not possible on the fascinate.
Also check this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1014504
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That's my thread I was hoping the mod was possible but i guess not...
its not possible...several people tried in the fall on one forum (coulda been here i cant recall)
This isn't meant to be a whine post, I'm just asking so I can better understand the Galaxy S series.
The Captivate is part of the Galaxy S family, why did Samsung release working Gingerbread with GPS but the Vibrant gets nothing? Isn't it the same hardware, just different form?
the captivate has a working gps because of the way samsung uses the software to call gps on the i9k compared to how the vibrant uses software calls to the gps.
The vibrant is different enough to where i9k stuff doesn't work, but the captivate works in the same way.
(hope fully the way i worded things isn't to confusing).
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the captivate has a working gps because of the way samsung uses the software to call gps on the i9k compared to how the vibrant uses software calls to the gps.
The vibrant is different enough to where i9k stuff doesn't work, but the captivate works in the same way.
(hope fully the way i worded things isn't to confusing).
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Hm interesting. So when coding for each separate Galaxy S device do they start with the same base for each and then just branch off that and modify it however the carrier has specified? Or would each be built from scratch individually? It kind of seems like each would be made separately if calls to the gps are used differently on hardware that's very similar.
cool, thanks for the explanation geoffcorey, i understand it perfectly now.
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Hm interesting. So when coding for each separate Galaxy S device do they start with the same base for each and then just branch off that and modify it however the carrier has specified? Or would each be built from scratch individually? It kind of seems like each would be made separately if calls to the gps are used differently on hardware that's very similar.
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As of JVH, one of the latest GB builds, there is very little difference.
Example. When I first started porting the Simply Galaxy/Honey series we were working with Froyo(2.2.1) and a lot had to be changed out or fixed, GPS, wifi, data, key mapping plus more. Because it was still Froyo based a lot of the code was still the same as ours so we could simply replace the GPS files and others and it worked. Gingerbread calls GPS completely different so we can't just slide our files in. The good thing though is that, I believe, Samsung is moving to a more universal build. On GB wifi is the same, actually almost everything. The only thing needed to port GB was a minor change to key mapping and headset and everything works with the exception of GPS.
Now as far as that goes the GPS chips are different and require different drivers in order to work. At least that's my understanding of the GPS. We Vibrant owners may have gotten the shaft when it came to GPS.
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Thanks for the info explodingboy70.
Ha, and yeah, I think we knew we had the shaft from the get go... (Entire Vibrant crap GPS debacle)
Welcome to T-mobile!! Customer service is fantastic but product service/development is garbage. But look at it this way; soon enough we'll have crappy customer service and better products, lmao.
That is one good question I was thinking of the same thing.
Thanks Guys
djquick said:
Welcome to T-mobile!! Customer service is fantastic but product service/development is garbage. But look at it this way; soon enough we'll have crappy customer service and better products, lmao.
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I don't really want to be an AT&TMo customer -_-
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I don't really want to be an AT&TMo customer -_-
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I'm going to be a Verizon customer in a year. Least I'll be getting the shaft from a company that has great phones.
So we Vibrant GPS is not working with Gingerbread at all??
So we Vibrant GPS is not working with Gingerbread at all??
GPS works in several of our Ginger roms. It can just be kind of sketchy at times.
So I have the Samsung Fascinate on Verizon using radio ED04 on Froyo.
I get calls that come in with no indication. I don't get all my text messages. I once got a voicemail 2 days after it was left (this may be an actual rare fluke and not linked to the main issues with the phone). Sometimes I get no indication of text messages until I un-sleep my phone (maybe a random coincidence in timing).
It's getting annoying, BUT it's not annoying enough yet to take the time to learn about flashing and ROM's and radio changes and the like.
My current questions are...
1) Do you think Gingerbread is going to fix these issues?
2) When do you think Gingerbread is going to be officially released on Verizon for the Fascinate?
2a) Do you think it's going to run into the same issue the Froyo release had for the US?
Hm, I have ED04 and I don't have that problem...
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My dads gf had the same issue with hers and they took it in to verizon. The tech said it was acting like the ota didn't download ir install right id take it in and se what they say. Just make sure your unrooted and full blown stock
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Well lets see, we got a bunch of froyo leaks and it took about 3-4 months for vzw to finnaly release Froyo. We just got a gingerbread leak, I say another 3-4 months.
Hey, there's the unofficial EC09 leak, and a couple of De-B'd (de-binged, de-bloated) ROMs based on it. You could try those if you don't mind potentially frying your SD card, not being able to play video or auto-rotate your screen, and generally having more force closes than Darth Vader
Another Fascinating post by my XDA app...
You could try following the instructions here (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1132236) to flash the EC09 modem by itself (since modems are independent of the ROMs, you shouldn't run into the problems with the EC09 ROMs).
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if there was an official gingerbread release before september id be really shocked
Thanks for the replies everyone
Thanks for the modem link jmcintire.
AsrialX said:
Thanks for the replies everyone
Thanks for the modem link jmcintire.
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No prob.
Another Fascinating post by my XDA app...
My question is this:
What is the difference between the GPS hardware on the T-Mobile Vibrant 3G and the (original) Nexus S?
If the hardware is the same, would the drivers for the Nexus S (which is running 2.3.5) work on a rooted Vibrant (also running a 2.3.5)?
I'm assuming that someone has already tried this and that's why we're using Angry GPS and such.
If not, what are the differences and how can we convince *cough - force - cough* Samsung to update the driver so that we can get a great Gingerbread ROM developed?
To all the dev's out there, I appreciate all that you do for us. Keep up the great work!
-Steve
I experienced a huge difference in GPS after i got custom rom. Now i can lock satellites in few mins where as i couldnt ever do it while i was in stock Froyo.
I believe they use completely different gps chips or wed have functioning gps by now.
Its not as trivial as i wish it were, unfortunately
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I experienced a huge difference in GPS after i got custom rom. Now i can lock satellites in few mins where as i couldnt ever do it while i was in stock Froyo.
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Mine is just the opposite. I get quick locks on Froyo and get get a consistent one on Gingerbread.
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I believe they use completely different gps chips or wed have functioning gps by now.
Its not as trivial as i wish it were, unfortunately
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I agree that it's nothing trivial and please don't misread my statement as "Jeez, this should be soooo easy" cause I know it's not.
My follow-up question is this:
With the Nexus series (N1, NS) who provides the updates to the GPS when they get the new, stock OS? Does HTC update the GPS software for the Nexus 1 and Samsung for the Nexus S?
Or does Google provide the updates?
If it's the device manufacturer, there should be some sort of petition or clause that states that if they support the Nexus devices, they should have no reason to keep from supporting the similar devices. The Galaxy S and Nexus S are so close in hardware it's not even funny.
What's the best way to contact Samsung and require them to update the GPS hardware? Or am I simply being naive ?
Again, props to the dev's that work to make our phones work!
-Steve
My girlfriend recently purchased a Samsung Galaxy S 4G (SGH-T959V). I enjoy all the features I get from rooting, etc on my G2. I saw the Gingerbread update from T-Mobile and have installed it for her. I wanted her to be able to have root, remove bloatware and have the lagfix (voodoo, assuming it is still needed) working. As I was getting ready to find her a good ROM this CM 911 dustup happened. It's ok if she keeps the Samsung ROM, my question is where is this 911 "feature" stored? In other words, what can be done to her phone without destroying emergancy calling? I am pretty sure just rooting it is fine. Removing bloatware after rooting should be good also. I believe the lagfix replaces the kernel. If the kernel gets replaced will that break 911 calls? Is anyone working on a stock GB ROM (as officially released Nov 15) that would have root, removed bloat, and anything else safe that keeps 911 working? I would be glad to wipe the phone, root, remove bloat, (lagfix?) myself and post. I just do not know what is safe to play with. Is this just a radio issue, library issue or kernel issue? Any information would be appriciated. I would like to make her android experiance a good one that still allows her to call 911. I have searched the forums and the web but can't seem to nail down a good answer of what can be changed and what must be left alone to allow 911 to work.
911 operators are drunks anyways... here's some proof, provided from a random Google search.
This is the vibrant forum,sgh-t959 not t959v... very different..
From my understanding, cm7 is the only one with the 911 problem (and any rom coming from cm7)
. Stick to samsung roms and your good. Also the 911 thing isnt the end of the world.. you call them, they cant hear you.. hang up and theyll call you back
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This is the vibrant forum,sgh-t959 not t959v... very different..
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Ah, since the download for the updater said "Vibrant" (offical from Samsung) and the model number is so close I assumed they were mostly the same. I see now there is a S 4G forum. Sorry for the mix up. I would assume this phone could have the same issues if CM was ported. Currently it is listed as not supported. I'll move to the right forum and dig some more. Sorry for the waste of space. If anyone knows if these are affected by the 911 issue feel free to chime in. Or if a moderator wants to move this to the othe forum feel free.
Thanks
Lol the waste of space is no big deal and your right, id forgotten that they call yours the vibrant 4g. But still the two phones are very different hardwarewise, idk why.
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hi guys, do T959 and t959V have different operating system? Can I use vibrant's rom for t959v 4g ?
thanks
minimalist83 said:
hi guys, do T959 and t959V have different operating system? Can I use vibrant's rom for t959v 4g ?
thanks
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You cant use vibrant rom. Both phone have different hardware. BTW you know the T959v 4g have Official Gingerbread.