What are the advantages and benefits of both of these options?
If I'm constantly switching ROMs what would be a better option in order not to install of restore every single app when the ROM is changed?
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juanfers said:
What are the advantages and benefits of both of these options?
If I'm constantly switching ROMs what would be a better option in order not to install of restore every single app when the ROM is changed?
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Hi,
1)Ext2,Ext3 are external partitions you create on your sd card in order to link or move apps from the phone and free up internal memory.This is the case for Eclair(2.1) or lower only.
2)Froyo onwards,there is a native apps2sd which would automatically be able to move apps to the FAT portion of your sd card which means there is now no need for any partitions to be created and not recommended either.
As you can now see,point 1 above is born out of necessity arising from the inadequacy in the older operating system!
Trust this clarifies.
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hi i actualy use link2sd and works perfects for me i have fat32 part and i can move almost any app. not the system apps. i dont ever try apps2sd because i olnly use this app in all my roms i use. cheers
I agree with sathkartha, but would like to mention one advantage of installing an app on an Ext2 / 3 / 4 partition:
When mounting the SD card on a computer, only the FAT(32) partition is mounted on the computer. The Ext2 / 3 / 4 partitions remain mounted on the phone, allowing for running apps installed on such partitions while the FAT partition is mounted on the computer.
Thanks for the info guys, now as far as changing roms every time one is released, will the apps installed on the EXT partition remain as long as they are non permanent running apps or widgets, like games and/or apps.
I would also like to know, how can i relink and restore ext2 apps once i install a new rom?
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I would also like to know, how can i relink and restore ext2 apps once i install a new rom?
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They just "appear" in the app drawer, actually xD
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I wish it was that easy, it never just reappears for me.
do u use restore programs?
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I know I can move apps to SD, its an option by going to manage applications. What I want to know is how can I move all of my apps to ext to save even more internal memory. I'm currently on void forever. I'm not using ungazed or darktremor. I did download S2E from market but it only allows moving of downloading data. I don't want to run my entire phone off of SD just applications. Along time ago about 2 months ago I did set up a partition l. I forgot the specifics but currently I'm using a class 6 8gb card, so I know it was higher than 512mb
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I know I can move apps to SD, its an option by going to manage applications. What I want to know is how can I move all of my apps to ext to save even more internal memory. I'm currently on void forever. I'm not using ungazed or darktremor. I did download S2E from market but it only allows moving of downloading data. I don't want to run my entire phone off of SD just applications. Along time ago about 2 months ago I did set up a partition l. I forgot the specifics but currently I'm using a class 6 8gb card, so I know it was higher than 512mb
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There is no way to move all the apps you want to sd in froyo without ungaze&co.
In cyanogenmod you can move every app you want to sd but apps with widgets will cause errors and other apps wich were not designed to be moved to sd will not run 100% correctly.
With ungaze, I flash the zip than what?
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With ungaze, I flash the zip than what?
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Flash the zip then your apps will be moved automatically to your ext partition.
But there's a catch: in time it is possible to damage your sd card because the apps will run directly from the sd wich is not really designed for too much r&w.
Appreciate the help
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So in sequence. I flash the rom, do I need to create a ext2 because A2SDgui tells me I don't have an ext2. Ill have to repartition my sdcard, any suggestions for a 8gb sdcard
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Jrhodes85 said:
So in sequence. I flash the rom, do I need to create a ext2 because A2SDgui tells me I don't have an ext2. Ill have to repartition my sdcard, any suggestions for a 8gb sdcard
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Errr.. You are confused.
1. S2E does move apps to the ext partition on CM7 based roms.
2. I suppose you want to use ungaze's data2sd based on your previous posts, A2SDGUI doesn't work with that.
3. Yes you require an ext2 partition. Simply use recovery, minitool or gparted.
link2sd is an amazing app I absolutely love it on my vm670 which has so little internal memory.
I have found in the X8 forum this actually someone said that he is doing it even for the x10 mini. Has anybody any clue about this, if it's being prepared for our phones?. For those who don't understand the princip, it's all about moving the data files of each program to the mem card.
If you use a Cyanogenmod based rom S2E from the Market will do the same thing
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If you use a Cyanogenmod based rom S2E from the Market will do the same thing
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Woow that's really true, thanks. How can i start to use it, because all the items are greyed out. do i need to create a second partition in ext3/4?
If you have 2.2 or above (froyo or gingerbread) its native (a2sd), and with Eclair you can use Link2SD or some scripts to achieve something similar... I use Link2SD and a second (FAT) partition on SD, but have used Froyo and Ginger and A2sd native always worked (could move some apps in app manager).
Yes you need.
If you use native option, apps are moved partially to the fat part of sd.
If you use a2e or link2sd entire apps are moved to ext partition.
Link2sd is able to use a second fat partition.
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If i use ext4 will it support better speeds? Then apps will load faster, will it have an effect?
Ungaze Data2sd Problem
Hi all,
Currently I'm using the Ungaze Data2sd with the ext2 partition ready. when I reboot it shows plenty of internal space which app2sd and link2sd doesn't make it for. However, whenever I downloaded apps and reboot the phone, those apps were gone. Can anyone help me with such problem?
good morning,
my ace has 233 ginger installed, rooted.
I always used titanium back to move apps from telephone memory to SD.
I just discovered that linksd makes the same thing.
Reading around it seems the link2sd move completely the applications leaving only the link in the internal memory, but I don't know if titanium makes the same.
I'm wondering Which are the differences between these two methods and which is the best program to move applications?
thanks
I use Titanium Backup to move to SD and it must transfer the files to SD and leaves a link on the internal because amount of ram available increases on the internal drive.
I have had no issues with it.
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I use Titanium Backup to move to SD and it must transfer the files to SD and leaves a link on the internal because amount of ram available increases on the internal drive.
I have had no issues with it.
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Ram?
noboddy has tested both the applications to understand which is the best one?
I think titanium makes a mount point for each moved app, and link2sd a symbolic link. Dunno what's better though. I would say... Test it in performance, comparability and memory usage...
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I have the same question bro. Did you get the answer yet??
I've using the Titanium Backup feature but seems almost everyone "love" link2sd, so it has to have something different I guees.
Titanium Backup move to SD = Android move to SD
Herpderp Adreno + Tegra.
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Titanium Backup move to SD = Android move to SD
Herpderp Adreno + Tegra.
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Hey thanks. That means is "not that usefull" as Link2SD right?
Seems I'll have to try it then.
Any problems with it?
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good morning,
my ace has 233 ginger installed, rooted.
I always used titanium back to move apps from telephone memory to SD.
I just discovered that linksd makes the same thing.
Reading around it seems the link2sd move completely the applications leaving only the link in the internal memory, but I don't know if titanium makes the same.
I'm wondering Which are the differences between these two methods and which is the best program to move applications?
thanks
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I just install S2E and then restore all my apps using Titanium Backup. S2E installs them in the SD automatically so I don't have to stop to batch move them so the SD.
Titanium uses the older method in which apps are stored on the FAT partition and mounted, link2sd needs a second ext4/3 partition and simlinks each app. link2sd method is better as it doesn't need to wait to mount on first login. Titanium leaves dalvik cache on internal, link2sd moves it to ext partition and so it saves more space. s2e and a2sd is similar to link2sd but they symlink the whole folder, which is less flexible but easier to manage.
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You can use other software
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... link2sd needs a second ext4/3 partition and simlinks each app. link2sd method is better as it doesn't need to wait to mount on first login. ...
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And that's exactly the problem with link2sd: it runs late. So the apps it links to aren't available while the sdcard is scanned for icons and file paths. Consequently it often (ie. always in my case!) has to restart or "soft boot" the device, which is annoying to say the least. I even had some unusable apps that couldn't take the fuzz. All probs repaired easily, but then, why bother? I kept the 500MB ext2 partition, though, might come in handy some day.
I suggest using ext2 as a general rule: ext3/ext4 are created with a log by default. This log carries changes to any data on disk and is flushed out from time to time by a special kernel thread. While this can speed operation and even safe guard against data corruption it is also unsuitable for flash storage and puts load on the wear levelling block driver beneath it _if there is one_! Now ext3/ext4 can be created and mounted without a log, but you'd have to trust other peoples/devs judgement to get this right. Not a problem with ext2. Ext4 is really fast and reliable, but with flash the bottleneck is elsewhere.
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Exactly.
I use both the apps, and you can make them working togheter for the best backup - restore experience on our SGA:
simply do this:
1) set autolink option "on" and install location option to "external" within Link2SD before installing the apps, all will be linked to SD automatically.
2) set "restore backups to ..." option to "Internal storage" within Titanium backup before restoring.
Once you do this, apps restored with titanium will be auto linked.
WARNING: don't link app like launchers (and related, like theme) or keyboards.
Hm, I've not had those problems with link2sd. I do agree that s2e method is simpler and less prone to possible errors; a sym linked dir doesn't need a service to relink per application as link2sd does. And I agree that if you are unsure about disabling journaling on ext4, then ext2 is a better default. Annoyingly sd-ext seems to mount as ext3 by default, so I manually edited init.d to mount as ext4 and removed journaling.
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True. Who has used Norton Utility Manager?
I know there are a LOT of guides for this and I was looking them but is taking me a hard time to understand what should I really do. I recently installed CyanogenMod 7.2 on my Live with Walkman. I have a 32 GB sd. The thing is I've been always used this app (Link2SD) WITHOUT my SD partitioned. The only thing I do is when an app is installed on phone (internal memory) I just move it with this app and that's it. I don't link it or anything cause I haven't partitioned my SD. But im curious about this, is it really necessary to make a 2nd partition for this? If it is possible, how can I do it? I have already read a LOT of guides but I want an easy way, I read somewhere it is even possible to make the partition via CWM, is that true? Also, I don't have a SD reader or anything, (I have a macbook) but I have Windows 7 installed in a virtual machine (Parallels).
So is there a way to do it that doesn't requiere a memory card reader? Please help
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I know there are a LOT of guides for this and I was looking them but is taking me a hard time to understand what should I really do. I recently installed CyanogenMod 7.2 on my Live with Walkman. I have a 32 GB sd. The thing is I've been always used this app (Link2SD) WITHOUT my SD partitioned. The only thing I do is when an app is installed on phone (internal memory) I just move it with this app and that's it. I don't link it or anything cause I haven't partitioned my SD. But im curious about this, is it really necessary to make a 2nd partition for this? If it is possible, how can I do it? I have already read a LOT of guides but I want an easy way, I read somewhere it is even possible to make the partition via CWM, is that true? Please help
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2nd partition is very necessary for Link2SD....bear in mind if you use the native app2SD (moving apps using Link2SD) it only move the apps(apk)...if you have 2nd partition and use Link2SD to link, then you can move not just the apps(apk), you can also move the data, dalvik-cache and the lib that come along with the apps....
i don't know if CWM can make partition but ROM manager can make it for you....
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2nd partition is very necessary for Link2SD....bear in mind if you use the native app2SD (moving apps using Link2SD) it only move the apps(apk)...if you have 2nd partition and use Link2SD to link, then you can move not just the apps(apk), you can also move the data, dalvik-cache and the lib that come along with the apps....
i don't know if CWM can make partition but ROM manager can make it for you....
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Thanks for your quick reply, ROM manager came installed with CM7 by default but I haven't used too much....
Do you know an easy way to make the 2nd partition using this app? (ROM manager)
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rolo143 said:
Thanks for your quick reply, ROM manager came installed with CM7 by default but I haven't used too much....
Do you know an easy way to make the 2nd partition using this app? (ROM manager)
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just follow the instructions on ROM manager on how to partition your SD....then ROM manager will reboot into CWM and it will make partition for you....just one draw back using ROM manager if you want to make partition is the biggest partition you can make is 512mb .....
i suggest you use MiniTool Partition Wizard to make 2nd partition....
The best way is using mini tool.
Backup your sdcard content first.
After that, open mini tool, delete your sdcard, create 2 new partitions. Both must be primary, set first with FAT32 or FAT. Then the second is your sdext. Make it to up to 1gb or less. Then create linux swap, 100mb is enough. Then press apply.
Done,
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One question. If I do it using ROM manager, would it erase all data on my sd?
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Of course. Your sdcard will be formatted. That's why u should backup first
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http://www.xperiablog.net/2011/12/12/link2sd-guide-never-worry-about-internal-memory-limits-again/
I think this guide will helpful to you. http://www.thespicygadgematics.com/2012/06/how-to-completely-move-android-apps-to.html
Ok thanks. It seems I successfully partitioned my SD card without losing ALL my data. The only problem is that the apps that were on SD (mostly games) are gone. But reinstalling them is not a big problem after all.
Seeing as how the rezound has a whopping 2.34 gb dedicated for /data, what's the best way to incorporate data2sd if at all possible? The sdcard is formatted and ready to go, all I need is the best way to add the capabilities. Thanks.
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Seeing as how the rezound has a whopping 2.34 gb dedicated for /data, what's the best way to incorporate data2sd if at all possible? The sdcard is formatted and ready to go, all I need is the best way to add the capabilities. Thanks.
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u mean 2.34 GB for app storage, right? because rezound has approximately 11 GB for data storage (the phone storage).
from the subject if u mean something like app2sd darktremor script, super app2sd script, cronmod data2sd/ext2sd script or any others. All these scripts have 2 specific partitions for both the app and data by using partitioned sd card, i've used for some my old phones.
i've read related threads here for seeking the function too but never find at least one special thread about this kind of modding or other rom threads that provide data2script mod in their roms. Honestly i need it too
may be u have to make some gambling here for trying to use universal data2sd/ext2sd or any kinds which compatible for rezound in general hacking modding thread
drhile said:
Seeing as how the rezound has a whopping 2.34 gb dedicated for /data, what's the best way to incorporate data2sd if at all possible? The sdcard is formatted and ready to go, all I need is the best way to add the capabilities. Thanks.
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Look at Link2SD... I have been using it since the days of my HTC Aria, it essentially makes your programs partition as large as you have SD card partition space and it has a nice interface. You do have to partition your SD card though, adding a partition specifically for Link2SD and then the application creates symbolic links in the normal partition for apps that point to the sd card. Make sure you read the instructions on how to use it though, or you will be wasting your time (use Link, not move).
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u mean 2.34 GB for app storage, right? because rezound has approximately 11 GB for data storage (the phone storage).
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Yes I'm referring to the /data partition
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Look at Link2SD... I have been using it since the days of my HTC Aria, it essentially makes your programs partition as large as you have SD card partition space and it has a nice interface. You do have to partition your SD card though, adding a partition specifically for Link2SD and then the application creates symbolic links in the normal partition for apps that point to the sd card. Make sure you read the instructions on how to use it though, or you will be wasting your time (use Link, not move).
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I'll give that a try thanks
Update: Worked like a charm thanks!
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