good morning,
my ace has 233 ginger installed, rooted.
I always used titanium back to move apps from telephone memory to SD.
I just discovered that linksd makes the same thing.
Reading around it seems the link2sd move completely the applications leaving only the link in the internal memory, but I don't know if titanium makes the same.
I'm wondering Which are the differences between these two methods and which is the best program to move applications?
thanks
I use Titanium Backup to move to SD and it must transfer the files to SD and leaves a link on the internal because amount of ram available increases on the internal drive.
I have had no issues with it.
Baracs said:
I use Titanium Backup to move to SD and it must transfer the files to SD and leaves a link on the internal because amount of ram available increases on the internal drive.
I have had no issues with it.
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Ram?
noboddy has tested both the applications to understand which is the best one?
I think titanium makes a mount point for each moved app, and link2sd a symbolic link. Dunno what's better though. I would say... Test it in performance, comparability and memory usage...
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I have the same question bro. Did you get the answer yet??
I've using the Titanium Backup feature but seems almost everyone "love" link2sd, so it has to have something different I guees.
Titanium Backup move to SD = Android move to SD
Herpderp Adreno + Tegra.
EmoBoiix3 said:
Titanium Backup move to SD = Android move to SD
Herpderp Adreno + Tegra.
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Hey thanks. That means is "not that usefull" as Link2SD right?
Seems I'll have to try it then.
Any problems with it?
coluichepensa said:
good morning,
my ace has 233 ginger installed, rooted.
I always used titanium back to move apps from telephone memory to SD.
I just discovered that linksd makes the same thing.
Reading around it seems the link2sd move completely the applications leaving only the link in the internal memory, but I don't know if titanium makes the same.
I'm wondering Which are the differences between these two methods and which is the best program to move applications?
thanks
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I just install S2E and then restore all my apps using Titanium Backup. S2E installs them in the SD automatically so I don't have to stop to batch move them so the SD.
Titanium uses the older method in which apps are stored on the FAT partition and mounted, link2sd needs a second ext4/3 partition and simlinks each app. link2sd method is better as it doesn't need to wait to mount on first login. Titanium leaves dalvik cache on internal, link2sd moves it to ext partition and so it saves more space. s2e and a2sd is similar to link2sd but they symlink the whole folder, which is less flexible but easier to manage.
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You can use other software
iandol said:
... link2sd needs a second ext4/3 partition and simlinks each app. link2sd method is better as it doesn't need to wait to mount on first login. ...
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And that's exactly the problem with link2sd: it runs late. So the apps it links to aren't available while the sdcard is scanned for icons and file paths. Consequently it often (ie. always in my case!) has to restart or "soft boot" the device, which is annoying to say the least. I even had some unusable apps that couldn't take the fuzz. All probs repaired easily, but then, why bother? I kept the 500MB ext2 partition, though, might come in handy some day.
I suggest using ext2 as a general rule: ext3/ext4 are created with a log by default. This log carries changes to any data on disk and is flushed out from time to time by a special kernel thread. While this can speed operation and even safe guard against data corruption it is also unsuitable for flash storage and puts load on the wear levelling block driver beneath it _if there is one_! Now ext3/ext4 can be created and mounted without a log, but you'd have to trust other peoples/devs judgement to get this right. Not a problem with ext2. Ext4 is really fast and reliable, but with flash the bottleneck is elsewhere.
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EmoBoiix3 said:
Titanium Backup move to SD = Android move to SD
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Exactly.
I use both the apps, and you can make them working togheter for the best backup - restore experience on our SGA:
simply do this:
1) set autolink option "on" and install location option to "external" within Link2SD before installing the apps, all will be linked to SD automatically.
2) set "restore backups to ..." option to "Internal storage" within Titanium backup before restoring.
Once you do this, apps restored with titanium will be auto linked.
WARNING: don't link app like launchers (and related, like theme) or keyboards.
Hm, I've not had those problems with link2sd. I do agree that s2e method is simpler and less prone to possible errors; a sym linked dir doesn't need a service to relink per application as link2sd does. And I agree that if you are unsure about disabling journaling on ext4, then ext2 is a better default. Annoyingly sd-ext seems to mount as ext3 by default, so I manually edited init.d to mount as ext4 and removed journaling.
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You can use other software
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True. Who has used Norton Utility Manager?
Related
What are the advantages and benefits of both of these options?
If I'm constantly switching ROMs what would be a better option in order not to install of restore every single app when the ROM is changed?
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What are the advantages and benefits of both of these options?
If I'm constantly switching ROMs what would be a better option in order not to install of restore every single app when the ROM is changed?
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Hi,
1)Ext2,Ext3 are external partitions you create on your sd card in order to link or move apps from the phone and free up internal memory.This is the case for Eclair(2.1) or lower only.
2)Froyo onwards,there is a native apps2sd which would automatically be able to move apps to the FAT portion of your sd card which means there is now no need for any partitions to be created and not recommended either.
As you can now see,point 1 above is born out of necessity arising from the inadequacy in the older operating system!
Trust this clarifies.
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hi i actualy use link2sd and works perfects for me i have fat32 part and i can move almost any app. not the system apps. i dont ever try apps2sd because i olnly use this app in all my roms i use. cheers
I agree with sathkartha, but would like to mention one advantage of installing an app on an Ext2 / 3 / 4 partition:
When mounting the SD card on a computer, only the FAT(32) partition is mounted on the computer. The Ext2 / 3 / 4 partitions remain mounted on the phone, allowing for running apps installed on such partitions while the FAT partition is mounted on the computer.
Thanks for the info guys, now as far as changing roms every time one is released, will the apps installed on the EXT partition remain as long as they are non permanent running apps or widgets, like games and/or apps.
I would also like to know, how can i relink and restore ext2 apps once i install a new rom?
Ray_jai said:
I would also like to know, how can i relink and restore ext2 apps once i install a new rom?
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They just "appear" in the app drawer, actually xD
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I wish it was that easy, it never just reappears for me.
do u use restore programs?
internal memory becoming short even after moving all the downloaded apps to sd card..... do any body have any solution....????
Did you clean the cache from the browser and other apps ?
Even if you move apps to the sdcard through Apps2SD, Android still installs stuff to the phone's internal storage for the dalvik cache and Using something like Link2SD with a partitioned memory card will solve this.
If you use Link2SD, DO NOT use Apps2SD of anykind. they are counterproductive.
The LG509P Optimus T only has 200MB internal storage.
I use an 8GB card partitioned with a 512MB ext2 partition for Link2SD. With all the apps I have installed (about 35-40), my internal phone storage is only using 55mb or so, with everything else going to the card automatically through Link2SD.
Clean browser & facebook or other apps cache and data.
create an partition on your device and download a2sd gui from market and flash darktremor a2sd script via recovery...then reboot and open a2sd gui app and select app on sd...in the dalvik cache tab select move cache to sd-ext.
links are here:
for a2sd gui:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=12069632#post12069632
and for the script: kindly search google.
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here is the script which is working on my phone
please check if your rom supports it...I dunno which ones do..but the forum and some google search might help..
hit the thanks button if i have helped you.
Link2Sd requires no special script or custom recovery for install or rom checking. All you need is a partitioned sd card, and to download the app from the market.
Guys which one is better installing apps2sd script of link2sd?
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here is the script which is working on my phone
please check if your rom supports it...I dunno which ones do..but the forum and some google search might help..
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Use this it fixes everything
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Somyab said:
Guys which one is better installing apps2sd script of link2sd?
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With link2sd you have a GUI and a choice what to move to SD. With apps2sd, everything is moved, no choice, no GUI. Decide for yourself.
how much of memory does links2sd free ??? with data2sd my internal memory is 140 mb free...yeah its a little cumbersome but once done no worries...
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how much of memory does links2sd free ??? with data2sd my internal memory is 140 mb free...yeah its a little cumbersome but once done no worries...
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Uhm... Depends on how many apps you move, surprisingly You can move the app, dalvik cache and libs (manually or automatically, all configurable).
navin.shah said:
internal memory becoming short even after moving all the downloaded apps to sd card..... do any body have any solution....????
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thats because your dalvik-cache is on phone..
NOTE: SOme ppl report that phone gets a little slower with dalvik-cache on sd..
try this
open terminal
type "su"
then u get a # prompt
execute this "a2sd cachesdreset"
Phone wil reboot and it might TAKE a while in rebuilind dalvik-cache
..you have a lot of free space in phone now..Check it
maximum free memory
well but whats the maximum memory free..
I dont see any harm in moving everything at one to the extention...i am too lazy and prefer shifting everything at once
Dude just follow the steps everything is automated..You will get arnd 150~160mb free after its done..
I've got about 35-40 apps on my phone, using a Class 4 8GB sd card, and my phone has 155mb free. there are some things you don't want to move through Link2SD (such as desktop widgets) or they dont work.
im a newbie.... can you tell me how to partition the sd card......
Dude install custom recovery(I m using AMonra2.2.1) ..Then boot into the recovery and select Partition Sd card ..Select all upgrade options one by one and settle for ext4..And
these options will partition
swap=0
ext=512
fat=rest
using rom manager is another alternative...use the values as given above by sarfaraz
Hey,
Can someone suggest a descent app for moving apps/data/dalvik to sd-ext? I've been using s2e it did the job but there's an issue with ICS2 Final by jusada and I really like this rom.
I noticed that even apps moved to sd-ext, I could still use widgets which is cool, so any similar program for moving things to sd-ext and is compatible with CM7.2? I think apps2ext is not officialy supported by cyanogen so what's your proposal?
I suggest link2sd(search in market) it's free.
And you can move individual app/dex/lib etc to sd partition.(which can be ext[2|3|4] or fat).
It can clear all app caches, list system/user/SD card/link app/ sort with apk size,data....etc.
Bayint Naung said:
I suggest link2sd(search in market) it's free.
And you can move individual app/dex/lib etc to sd partition.(which can be ext[2|3|4] or fat).
It can clear all app caches, list system/user/SD card/link app/ sort with apk size,data....etc.
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so if I press the move to sd for an individula app it sends it to sd or sd-ext cause I am using that and I think it moves them to sd. Maybe I wrong?
I am using link2SD and so far im not having any problems..and i think its better, and much easier to use than a2sdgui..
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so if I press the move to sd for an individula app it sends it to sd or sd-ext cause I am using that and I think it moves them to sd. Maybe I wrong?
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You might want to read app description.
it can move to SD card in froyo way or linking individual app to sd partition.
s2e or other script link /data/app directory (just like your pc shortcut) to sd partition.
link2sd allows you to control which app to move.
I prefer this way since I don't want some apps on sd partition.
Bayint Naung said:
You might want to read app description.
it can move to SD card in froyo way or linking individual app to sd partition.
s2e or other script link /data/app directory (just like your pc shortcut) to sd partition.
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I've read instructions but couldn't understand that linking means moving the files to sd-ext. So if I want to place them in sd-ext I choose Link and not move to SD, correct? And would be the same as s2e, right?
does links2sd works on stock rom and 4 GB EXT ?
11GB norm
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I've read instructions but couldn't understand that linking means moving the files to sd-ext. So if I want to place them in sd-ext I choose Link and not move to SD, correct? And would be the same as s2e, right?
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you need to "create link". thats all. move one at a time or batch move. then reboot.
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Just for clarification:
"Create link" in Link2SD means "move app files, app libraries and app dexes (if any) to sd-ext and create a link in /data/app (or anywhere the app originally came from) to sd-ext."
Linking in Linux/Android is the same as making a shortcut in Windows.
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Bye at all
With Link2SD i moved a lot of applicaton to the system partition, but i had problems with shazam and opera classic. They doesn't work and if i try to re-pass them to the user partition, Link2SD give me the error: write: No space left on device. (but i've a lot of space!!). This happens also with the others applications.
How can i solve? I've wiped cache by recovery but the problem remains.. any suggestions?
EDIT: it's the dalvik cache.. I've two directory /cache/dalvik-cache and /data/dalvik-cache. If i clean the first the space problem disappear and i can do anything perfectly.. but when i reboot, the dalvik is recreated and the space is full again (cache).
This is the question: the apps i've moved to the rom memory (system memory) create a too large dalvik-cache (i think). I would like to move the dalvik-cache of this applications to the user memory (not to the sd card). Integrate /cache/dalvik-cache in /data/dalvik-cache. Is possible?
How can i do?
steakhutzeee said:
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With Link2SD i moved a lot of applicaton to the system partition, but i had problems with shazam and opera classic. They doesn't work and if i try to re-pass them to the user partition, Link2SD give me the error: write: No space left on device. (but i've a lot of space!!). This happens also with the others applications.
How can i solve? I've wiped cache by recovery but the problem remains.. any suggestions?
EDIT: it's the dalvik cache.. I've two directory /cache/dalvik-cache and /data/dalvik-cache. If i clean the first the space problem disappear and i can do anything perfectly.. but when i reboot, the dalvik is recreated and the space is full again (cache).
This is the question: the apps i've moved to the rom memory (system memory) create a too large dalvik-cache (i think). I would like to move the dalvik-cache of this applications to the user memory (not to the sd card). Integrate /cache/dalvik-cache in /data/dalvik-cache. Is possible?
How can i do?
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Hmmm...dalvik-cache from system apps can't be move into ext partition using link2sd...link2sd keep it at cache/dalvik-cache so your phone can boot faster and can open system apps quicker...
but if you want to really move those dalvik-cache you have to use other apps than link2sd... This Apps can do the job but remember you need to restore all files that have been link using link2sd first...both app can't work together so you need to uninstalled link2sd before you can use it....also remember this app might not work on certain phone and rom...make Nandriod backup before you attempt to try this apps...
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Hmmm...dalvik-cache from system apps can't be move into ext partition using link2sd...link2sd keep it at cache/dalvik-cache so your phone can boot faster and can open system apps quicker...
but if you want to really move those dalvik-cache you have to use other apps than link2sd... This Apps can do the job but remember you need to restore all files that have been link using link2sd first...both app can't work together so you need to uninstalled link2sd before you can use it....also remember this app might not work on certain phone and rom...make Nandriod backup before you attempt to try this apps...
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Then with this 'Mounts2SD - Storage & Memory' i can move dalvik? it's dangerous?
steakhutzeee said:
Then with this 'Mounts2SD - Storage & Memory' i can move dalvik? it's dangerous?
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Hmmmm...so far as i tested, there no problem with it....there a big different between Mounts2SD and Link2SD...Link2SD only link the apps/lib/dalvik-cache on install apps but not on system apps while Mounts2SD is moving apps/data/lib/dalvik-cache and even system cache to your ext partitions...the setup also quite easy using Mounts2SD but the big disadvantage about Mounts2SD is you can't uninstall apps using it...you have to use default way in settings/apps to uninstalled it or use and app uninstaller...the big advantage about Mounts2SD is you will have more free space (around 95%) in internal memory cause after moving all apps/data/lib/dalvik-cache....
iPusak Gaoq™ said:
Hmmmm...so far as i tested, there no problem with it....there a big different between Mounts2SD and Link2SD...Link2SD only link the apps/lib/dalvik-cache on install apps but not on system apps while Mounts2SD is moving apps/data/lib/dalvik-cache and even system cache to your ext partitions...the setup also quite easy using Mounts2SD but the big disadvantage about Mounts2SD is you can't uninstall apps using it...you have to use default way in settings/apps to uninstalled it or use and app uninstaller...the big advantage about Mounts2SD is you will have more free space (around 95%) in internal memory cause after moving all apps/data/lib/dalvik-cache....
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After those problems i restored a nandroid backup and only integrated the updates of six apps in the rom with Titanium Backup, this is a problem for Mount2SD now? (you said i must to restore link done with Link2SD etc. before).
Can you explain me the steps i must do? I want to move some applications to the system memory (with Mount2SD you said) and leave their dalvik-cache to /data/dalvik-cache (not necessarily that of all the default system apps)
steakhutzeee said:
After those problems i restored a nandroid backup and only integrated the updates of six apps in the rom with Titanium Backup, this is a problem for Mount2SD now? (you said i must to restore link done with Link2SD etc. before).
Can you explain me the steps i must do? I want to move some applications to the system memory (with Mount2SD you said) and leave their dalvik-cache to /data/dalvik-cache (not necessarily that of all the default system apps)
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Hmmm...you can take a look at the apps thread HERE...any information or question about how the apps work, you can ask there...
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Hmmm...you can take a look at the apps thread HERE...any information or question about how the apps work, you can ask there...
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I did, but you think i can do this? you've experience wiith this app?
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I did, but you think i can do this? you've experience wiith this app?
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yes i have experience using this app...those 6 app that use have mention before, are there system app update? if the are system app update then you can push it into system without any problem either using titanium backup or manually push it using file explorer with root excess...just make sure in Mounts2SD you tick don't move system app 2 ext...just let it be but tick...
1.move app to ext
2.move data to ext
3.move dalvik-cache to ext
iPusak Gaoq™ said:
yes i have experience using this app...those 6 app that use have mention before, are there system app update? if the are system app update then you can push it into system without any problem either using titanium backup or manually push it using file explorer with root excess...just make sure in Mounts2SD you tick don't move system app 2 ext...just let it be but tick...
1.move app to ext
2.move data to ext
3.move dalvik-cache to ext
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I do not remember if they were system apps, can i control it somehow?
However i'm talking of moving apps in system/rom memory, this is ext memory? i'm not talking of sd card.
I read you had a bootloop with this app, any suggestions for not having the same problem?
Thx for your help
steakhutzeee said:
I do not remember if they were system apps, can i control it somehow?
However i'm talking of moving apps in system/rom memory, this is ext memory? i'm not talking of sd card.
I read you had a bootloop with this app, any suggestions for not having the same problem?
Thx for your help
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Hmmm...i'm not quite understand your first and second question but if you are planning to move system app to ext memory that yes you can do it using Mounts2SD but i don't recommeded it cause you might get bootloop afterward...
yes i do have bootloop with this app but it's on early version...latest version fix that problem but i haven't tested it on Mini Pro using PAC rom but i'm using latest version on Miro using Slimbean rom...
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Hmmm...i'm not quite understand your first and second question but if you are planning to move system app to ext memory that yes you can do it using Mounts2SD but i don't recommeded it cause you might get bootloop afterward...
yes i do have bootloop with this app but it's on early version...latest version fix that problem but i haven't tested it on Mini Pro using PAC rom but i'm using latest version on Miro using Slimbean rom...
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i said, how can i control if those six apps i integrated 're system apps?
However i want to move some apps like: drive, shazam etc. to the system memory, where are all default apps. Can i?
steakhutzeee said:
i said, how can i control if those six apps i integrated 're system apps?
However i want to move some apps like: drive, shazam etc. to the system memory, where are all default apps. Can i?
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Hmmm...once you move them into system apps, there no way to control it using Mounts2SD or Link2SD...the only thing that can control it is Titanium backup or any other system installer if somehow the app your move didn't work proper in system...not all apps can be push into system and work normally...
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Hmmm...once you move them into system apps, there no way to control it using Mounts2SD or Link2SD...the only thing that can control it is Titanium backup or any other system installer if somehow the app your move didn't work proper in system...not all apps can be push into system and work normally...
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Can you speak more clearly please? What is the procedure?
I have a problem of this too if i use Legacy Xperia 4.4.1 mike
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hey every one!
I have installed GingerKat Rom v3.0 and Ilove it but
there is one problem I can't move apps from internal
memory to SD and I'am using link2sd to move the apps
when i try to move some apps at the end of process
link2sd failed.
so what the problem???????can I solve it or not
Because I don't want to back to stock rom
thanks in advance.
yusr said:
hey every one!
I have installed GingerKat Rom v3.0 and Ilove it but
there is one problem I can't move apps from internal
memory to SD and I'am using link2sd to move the apps
when i try to move some apps at the end of process
link2sd failed.
so what the problem???????can I solve it or not
Because I don't want to back to stock rom
thanks in advance.
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Tips from me. After installing apps, quickly link to sd. Why? That because when your internal memory smaller than your application data you cannot link your app.
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Try move to sd app. you need root permission for that.. It wil work :good:
Link2SD needs ext2/3 partition to work...I think :/
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No it doesn't. It only requires an ext partition when you 'link' apps, as what yusrilramadhan has suggested. Moving apps to the SD card does not require an ext partition, rather the app is moved to .android_secure as a .asec file. The app data is left in /data.
You can access these .asec files in /mnt/secure/asec, provided you have root.
Link2SD can both link and move apps to the SD Card, while a host of other root apps can do the same, such as Titanium Backup.
If I remember correctly, GingerKat is a CM7.2 ROM, which means that you can move apps to SD through settings (provided you change some CM settings) but this is generally not recommended.
while formatting sdCard in Mini Partition Tool, did you make both partitions as active?
if not, it wont work