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Is there an App to turn my phone into a wifi hotspot for free? Like, I'm fine with paying for the app, but I don't wanna pay for tethering. I will root if necessary (heck, I'd probably root regardless when I get the phone).
kenio8185 said:
Is there an App to turn my phone into a wifi hotspot for free? Like, I'm fine with paying for the app, but I don't wanna pay for tethering. I will root if necessary (heck, I'd probably root regardless when I get the phone).
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You can use barnicle app (free) or if your more comfortable with modding your phone you can enable the mobile hotspot setting, it only takes like 10 min.
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You don't need a third-party app. You can get the Mobile Hotspot the phone comes with to work without a tether plan: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=980636
Zerxer said:
You don't need a third-party app. You can get the Mobile Hotspot the phone comes with to work without a tether plan: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=980636
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I guess that might work, but I'm gonna be getting the phone from Bell, not AT&T, so that may not work for me.
straight from google
http://code.google.com/p/android-wifi-tether/
why do u even need 3rd party apps? Root your phone, and the wifi hotspot (aka tethering) option is built-in within the phone itself, for free.
Go here: http://briefmobile.com/motorola-atrix-4g-root to root your phone. It's very simple actually. Just follow the steps.
Good luck.
aquariuz23 said:
why do u even need 3rd party apps? Root your phone, and the wifi hotspot (aka tethering) option is built-in within the phone itself, for free.
Go here: http://briefmobile.com/motorola-atrix-4g-root to root your phone. It's very simple actually. Just follow the steps.
Good luck.
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Will AT&T know you are tethering? I am on unlimited plan and they may just switch me to a limited plan. That will suck!
Rican2008 said:
Will AT&T know you are tethering? I am on unlimited plan and they may just switch me to a limited plan. That will suck!
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They can't switch your plans unless you say so. They either need your sig from a store or need you to switch online. The worst that might (and most likely won't) happen is that they'll just cancel your plan, in which case, congrats, you just got an Atrix for a really good deal.
What is most likely gonna happen is that IF AT&T figures out you are tethering, they're just gonna charge you for it. I don't know how AT&T's rates are, but I believe the company I'm with, Bell (it's in Canada) charges about $5/mb if you're tethering.
So, if I were you, I'd get the app or do the mod. Then use about 1mb through tethering. Then call them in a few hours, maybe the next day and ask how much tethering you have used so far. If they say 1mb, you did something wrong (and get dinged on your next bill for it), if they say nothing, then you're good.
aquariuz23 said:
why do u even need 3rd party apps? Root your phone, and the wifi hotspot (aka tethering) option is built-in within the phone itself, for free.
Go here: http://briefmobile.com/motorola-atrix-4g-root to root your phone. It's very simple actually. Just follow the steps.
Good luck.
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Ya, rooting is the easy part, but how do I access the wifi tether option after rooting? and are you sure I won't be charged for tethering if I use it?
Also, like I said, I'm not with AT&T. I live in Canada, and a company called Bell is gonna be getting it here soon, I'm gonna be buying the phone from them, and using it off their network.
aquariuz23 said:
why do u even need 3rd party apps? Root your phone, and the wifi hotspot (aka tethering) option is built-in within the phone itself, for free.
Go here: http://briefmobile.com/motorola-atrix-4g-root to root your phone. It's very simple actually. Just follow the steps.
Good luck.
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No, don't root using that article (could someone get them to update the article with the new method?). It's messy for the Atrix. Best thing to do now is use aRoot: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=981866
kenio8185 said:
Ya, rooting is the easy part, but how do I access the wifi tether option after rooting? and are you sure I won't be charged for tethering if I use it?
Also, like I said, I'm not with AT&T. I live in Canada, and a company called Bell is gonna be getting it here soon, I'm gonna be buying the phone from them, and using it off their network.
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Dude, neither Telus or Bell have any sort of tethering fees. You also don't know if Bell will modify the phone to just include the option, seeing as AT&T have some sort of tethering fee service going on for some reason.
The only thing you're going to get from tethering here is whatever data you use being chipped off your regular data plan. I use 50 MB worth of tethering, that's 50 MB off my data (which makes sense).
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Dude, neither Telus or Bell have any sort of tethering fees. You also don't know if Bell will modify the phone to just include the option, seeing as AT&T have some sort of tethering fee service going on for some reason.
The only thing you're going to get from tethering here is whatever data you use being chipped off your regular data plan. I use 50 MB worth of tethering, that's 50 MB off my data (which makes sense).
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Are you sure they don't have any tethering? I remember once they increased my bill by a horrific amount, and they said it was because I tethered to my computer (I didn't tether and after many calls and hours of complaining, they took away the charge). However, thinking back to it, that was before I had data as well. I do remember the rep specifically saying it's because I tethered data to my computer though, maybe he meant that I tethered it but I was being charged regular data.
Anyways, what you said is what I want, I have 6gb of data and I rarely get passed 500mb. I wanna start using more of my data per month, and wifi tethering is gonna help me with that.
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maybe it is a stupid question, but how do they (verizon) technically find out that someone tether over 3G, when you have a unlimited data plan (3G) and use 3G normaly from your phone to download? What is the difference between the data that comes over 3G when I download the same pdf to phone or over wifi/3G tether to the iPad ? It makes no sense to me.
Thanks for your answers
The amount of data you use is one method. The other is that they are building in tethering monitoring to the kernels that sends a message to the system that you're tethering.
I know for the DX/D2 the leak of GB from Verizon actually had a tether detection and every time you tried to tether, weather it was barnicle or wireless tether it would redirect you to Verizons website and asked if you wanted to tether to pay another fee ....idk if it will happen with this phone is VZ does decide to push out a GB for us ...
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JeezyMT3G said:
I know for the DX/D2 the leak of GB from Verizon actually had a tether detection and every time you tried to tether, weather it was barnicle or wireless tether it would redirect you to Verizons website and asked if you wanted to tether to pay another fee ....idk if it will happen with this phone is VZ does decide to push out a GB for us ...
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The Fascinate has "hidden" tether protection that we have bypassed thanks to the kernel sources, but it is there in the stock kernel.
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The amount of data you use is one method. The other is that they are building in tethering monitoring to the kernels that sends a message to the system that you're tethering.
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So there is a program that work in the background sending data to the carrier when you use Wifi and 3G at the same time ?
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So there is a program that work in the background sending data to the carrier when you use Wifi and 3G at the same time ?
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Either a program/service within the framework, or a special command/method is used to notify the network that you're tethering.
But if we are using a ROM such as Evil Fascination or Community then they wouldn't be able to tell because of the custom kernels that come with them right?
Yes, the custom kernels all have it bypassed as far as I am aware. At least we think that we have bypassed it.
Thanks for the information, its very interesting . If I am understand it right, there is a part of it in the ROM and a second in the kernel. They have to work together, if one of the parts missing like in a custom kernel it prevent the phone from sending ?
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Yes, the custom kernels all have it bypassed as far as I am aware. At least we think that we have bypassed it.
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Even if you're using verizon's 3G mobile hotspot app? Or do you have to download a different wireless tethering app? (Which we can't cause verizon blocked all of them from the market lol)
Wifi tethering apps aren't hidden in the market for me....
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Wifi tethering apps aren't hidden in the market for me....
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No apps are hidden ....only one that was taken off was Wireless Tether and thats was a long time ago ...the rest are still there
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Yes, the custom kernels all have it bypassed as far as I am aware. At least we think that we have bypassed it.
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I work for an indirect sales and have access to Verizon and ill test to see if Verizon recognizes any tethering downloads...I know they can definitely tell whats tethered and whats not....will report back with confirmation tomorrow
edit:will test CM and Stock just to see how much is visible to them
rebirthan1x said:
Hi,
maybe it is a stupid question, but how do they (verizon) technically find out that someone tether over 3G, when you have a unlimited data plan (3G) and use 3G normaly from your phone to download? What is the difference between the data that comes over 3G when I download the same pdf to phone or over wifi/3G tether to the iPad ? It makes no sense to me.
Thanks for your answers
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I know from working on a customers account that info your asking is clearly defined under current usage tab in our system...it divides the data used into smartphone usage and tethered usage...assuming they considered tether in the sense of hardwired and wireless...yes it is crazy what we can see from your phone reporting to us....will the system know? yes....will someone at verizon care? probably, are they going to pick thru every little customers account who has EVER tether and charge them? probably not....just dont poke the bear and you'll be fine...
mkzbdroid said:
I work for an indirect sales and have access to Verizon and ill test to see if Verizon recognizes any tethering downloads...I know they can definitely tell whats tethered and whats not....will report back with confirmation tomorrow
edit:will test CM and Stock just to see how much is visible to them
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....and what is the difference?
mkzbdroid said:
I know from working on a customers account that info your asking is clearly defined under current usage tab in our system...it divides the data used into smartphone usage and tethered usage...assuming they considered tether in the sense of hardwired and wireless...yes it is crazy what we can see from your phone reporting to us....will the system know? yes....will someone at verizon care? probably, are they going to pick thru every little customers account who has EVER tether and charge them? probably not....just dont poke the bear and you'll be fine...
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hopefully they dont change it where that tethered usage is automatically added to your bill. im on comm rom so it shouldnt affect me but those that arent should be careful or consider a custom rom
from what I had read at one time on ATT's tethering crackdown, the system was easily able to tell due to one little piece... the TTL.
here's a quote and more info on it... probably pertains to verizon as well.
For all you wondering how they can tell:
All IP packets have something called a TTL associated with them. It stands for Time To Live. Every "hop" along the network from one router to the next reduces the TTL by one. When it reaches 0, the packet is dropped. This was introduced to keep routing problems from overloading the network. If for example, by some error a packet was going around in a circular path, the TTL would eventually reach 0 and prevent a packet storm.
The thing is, ALL routing devices do this. OSes use standard TTLs. For example, let's say both your iPhone and laptop use 127 for the TTL. AT&T will receive packets from your iPhone with a TTL of 127, but since the packets from your laptop pass through your iPhone first, they arrive at AT&T with a TTL of 126. They can detect a tethered device this way.
EDIT: Some people below have suggested changing the default TTL of their tethered device (which is possible). I would just like to point out that the max TTL allowed is 255, and if the iPhone uses 255 as its default TTL, well there's no way you can set it to 256.
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I'm not sure if our android tethering apps take this into account and change the TTL of the traffic on the fly or not... would be interesting to test out though...
Hi,
I have a Classic Family 1000 plan where I get 1000 shared minutes for two lines for $49.99 per month. I pay an additional $30 per line for data. I have a Galaxy 4G and a G2 on the account.
Both phones are able to turn on WiFi hot spot. This is an awesome feature. I use it all the time with my laptop and tablet. I don't push a lot of bytes, but it's super nice to use the laptop for email and light browsing. I rarely exceed more than a GB per month per line.
I see that T-Mobile is now charging an extra fee for WiFi tethering/hotspot. I'm curious to know what actions I might take will result in me losing the current "free" (no extra charge) capability I have now.
Is it my plan that gives me this capability or is it my phone? If I upgrade to a Galaxy 2, Galaxy Nexus, or HTC Amaze will I lose "free" (no extra charge) WiFi hotspot/tethering?
What if I keep the same phones, but switch to the $99.99 per month (2 lines, unlimited voice/data/text) plan. Will I then lose "free" (no extra charge) WiFi hotspot/tethering?
If I root the phone a install CyanogenMod (or some other non T-Mobile ROM) will I circumvent having to pay for WiFi hotspot/tethering? I have CyanogenMod on a Vibrant that my kids play games with and I like it enough. I feel comfortable rooting a phone and installing a new ROM, but I'm not the kind of guy that does this just for sport (there has to be a reason).
John
As far as I know, the "free" wifi hotspot is not disabled on any T-Mo phone. I can confirm it's on the SGSII. I don't know of anyone who has ever been forced to pay for the hotspot, I certainly have never been texted or warned when I use mine. I do tend to stay under my 5GB high speed limit, though.
If you change your plan, it wouldn't be disabled, either. As long as the phone has an unmolested android mobile ap on it, I think you're good to go. Even more so if you don't over use it.
Edit: I would think that if you're tethering an android tablet, T-Mobile wouldn't even pay attention. With a laptop the data packets are different and possibly detectable.
Free tethering
I don't know what triggers the restrictions but my daughter moved out and used tethering as her only internet for a couple of months. Then one day she tried it and got a message that tethering was a separate service she would have to pay for.
And, yes, she was using a laptop.
I think they can only detect tether if you use a tether app from the market which uses ad-hoc . If you have a custom rom with a native tether built in and is a true AP I don't think it will be detected .
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I just lost mine when I bought my new SGS2 and they replaced my SIM. I had Hotspot for free on my Vibrant, when I tried it on the new phone today it took me to the $14.95 webpage.
I called TMo today and they said it shouldn't have ever been free...I explained that I've used it for free for the last 1.5 years...he didn't have an answer...but offered to add it to my account...I kindly said FU*K NO!!!!
zombie55 said:
I just lost mine when I bought my new SGS2 and they replaced my SIM. I had Hotspot for free on my Vibrant, when I tried it on the new phone today it took me to the $14.95 webpage.
I called TMo today and they said it shouldn't have ever been free...I explained that I've used it for free for the last 1.5 years...he didn't have an answer...but offered to add it to my account...I kindly said FU*K NO!!!!
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Most likely this is because you were using a custom ROM before. Most ROM's have been edited so that when you enable tethering it treats it as Phone traffic as apposed to PC traffic. I am pretty sure you will get it back after you install a good ROM.
Raistline said:
Most likely this is because you were using a custom ROM before. Most ROM's have been edited so that when you enable tethering it treats it as Phone traffic as apposed to PC traffic. I am pretty sure you will get it back after you install a good ROM.
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Nope...phone was stock never flashed a ROM to it.
Well I can tell you, that tethering never worked on the stock ROM for me. As soon as I installed a custom ROM it has never failed. I would try this if I were you, otherwise you may be SOL
There is no problem tethering on the ICS Passion ROM. My kids used it on a three hour trip last week while we drove from SC to GA.
Tethering and custom ROMS
As mentioned above my daughter ( stock ROM ) was cut off from tethering.
I am still able to tether, but am using Bionix 1.3.1, and have never used it very much.
I am very interested in the info above that custom ROMS have been modified so that tethering is not detectable. I hope this is true. Does anyone know this is true for Bionix 1.3.1?
Thanks
It is that's why I said it . Trust me flash a custom rom with tether built in and you will have no problem .
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That's great news and explains why I can still tether and some can't. THANKS!
Tethering should still work, just not with the TMobile 'Wifi Hotspot' app....
Stuff like PDANet, Wifi Tether for Root, etc...
WTRU will be impacted, however, in that some phones where it 'worked' through the stock app may have trouble...
Pre-ICS, my phone would run WTRU, which would 'route' through the stock hotspot app... Now, it doesn't - which leaves me with unsecure ad-hoc wifi only (OK for PCs, not ok for tablets, etc - and the only available security is MAC-address access control, not WEP or WPA)...
Apps like PDANet (the ones that don't need root to work) use proxying, so they won't be impacted at all because the internet usage actually is occurring on the phone... Of course, you need to buy PDANet, and it may not work with all internet apps (eg, stuff other than mail/web/etc)
Hey all -
My friend just bought an HTC Rezound to with a 2GB (4GB due to their current promo) data plan. He plans on using it as his main internet connection at his house over the summer because up there, they don't have cable internet or DSL available. Anyone have any input on what the best setup (ROM wise and app wise) would be for him to achieve this? I'm a little worried because I've seen some people saying Verizon can charge you for teathering (I'm currently on Sprint and have never had this problem on a rooted device) even if you use are rooted and use a 3rd party app. Is that true? If he has a custom rooted ROM, and uses something like android wi-fi teather, he should be fine right? How could they tell the data is going to a desktop vs. being displayed through his phones browser?
Anyone?
10char
I really don't think you can tether for free with any of the ROMs out now. I just came from a droid 3 and could tether after hacking the radio, but haven't seen anything like that for the rezound. Tethering does come in handy once in a while. Anyone have any success tethering for free?
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I really don't think you can tether for free with any of the ROMs out now. I just came from a droid 3 and could tether after hacking the radio, but haven't seen anything like that for the rezound. Tethering does come in handy once in a while. Anyone have any success tethering for free?
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I believe there are at least two threads that deal with this at xda, so search "rezound wifi tether" on Google and you should get many hits. Search is your friend.
However, the long and the short is, GB ROMs will allow adhoc wifi tethering and ICS ROMs allow infrastructure tethering.
If you don't understand the difference, I wouldn't suggest messing with your friend's Rezound until you've done some research.
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There are currently no wifi hotspot hacks to allow what your friend is looking for. If he's smart he'll pay for wifi hotspot and get unlimited data in the process(plenty of info on that). Otherwise as stated above, ad-hoc tether is available for GB and infrastructure tether for ICS.
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There are currently no wifi hotspot hacks to allow what your friend is looking for. If he's smart he'll pay for wifi hotspot and get unlimited data in the process(plenty of info on that). Otherwise as stated above, ad-hoc tether is available for GB and infrastructure tether for ICS.
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So are you saying that VZW can tell if you use ad-hoc or infrastructure tether? I canceled my mhs because it was basically useless. Haven't asked for a refund since I figured I was getting what I paid for a little at a time and I thought they didn't know...
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So are you saying that VZW can tell if you use ad-hoc or infrastructure tether? I canceled my mhs because it was basically useless. Haven't asked for a refund since I figured I was getting what I paid for a little at a time and I thought they didn't know...
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Nope, I was just saying that there isn't a hack for free MHS. You can only do 1-to-1 device tethering without MHS. As far as we currently know ad-hoc and infrastructure tethering is still not detectable.
I know At&t was pulling "We know you are tethering" claims with all the iPhone users when I was with them. That said I don't see how they could claim this with android with the option to use Firefox+Phony to change how you see the webpage.
I tether all the time for free
Since most of us who use this forum are aware of AT&T's draconian policies regarding tethering, especially the one whereby they bump you from unlimited to crappy tethering plan policy, I'm going to ask those of us who are successfully tethering their Atrix with an unlimited data plan to help correct some information.
Basically AT&T is changing their plans, and with 3gb HSPA and 5gb LTE throttling the reality for us unlimited data plan users, I and others would like to know what this has wrought for our tethering capabilities.
Previously AT&T was monitoring our accounts to see if we were tethering, seeing if our phones were using ports and protocols for checking windows update for example(used to determine that your phone is tethered to a PC), or user agent strings, or other means of packet inspection. They were hitting people with the 45$ tethering plan left and right 12 months ago, but now, Verizon has just gotten the smackdown on their charge-for-tether practices, and I recall hearing that AT&T doesn't care about tethering anymore because they are putting most people on the unified data package where a whole set of devices use one pool of allotted bandwidth. Which would mean AT&T can ream those people with encouraged tethering.
But that leaves those of us with an unlimited plan......uninformed. Are they still doing the plan bump if they detect an unlimited user tethering? Furthermore, can they even detect the kind of tethering I've tried before, namely Atrix CM7 connected to HP touchpad CM9, I think built in tethering app. Can't they tell from the amount of hops, its one further on the Time to live?
Or do I have to use PDANET for the encryption?
Surely there must be someone out there using their unlimited with tethering who can chime in, maybe you can say what rom and tether app/built in your using/technique.
And if it's safe, this would make my job so much easier to tether with my laptop. And since that work is volunteer search and rescue flying, this could be invaluable information for me and my team.
Thanks, TL ; DR, AT&T sucks. But they have a fat data pipe and large network...
Grandfathered unlimited plan here. I'm running neutrino and tether to my iPad mostly and some pc tethering I used about 2 gigs in 3 days and so far so good. No scary text or anything.
Of course ymmv but that's been my experience with tethering so far.
Btw located in more rural southeast
Interesting
Thanks for the reply, I've tethered roughly 3-4 gb using netflix and some web browsing from Atrix to Touchpad, but that was last Thanksgiving, so I'm sure AT&T's network has changed since then. I guess I'll start off with trying to push 3gb+ using netflix on the touchpad, followed by browsing on the touchpad to see if any warning bells go off at AT&T. Because frankly having freedom to tether is a joy, I used to use my HTC Touch Pro to tether like mad on AT&T going through 5gb with a laptop easily. But that was 2.5 years ago
Anyone else get slammed?
I thought they just throttled you after you used more than 3gb+. Are they guys not getting throttled anymore?
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I thought they just throttled you after you used more than 3gb+. Are they guys not getting throttled anymore?
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I have tethered on my unlimited plan, using my Nintendo 3Ds, and my laptop which is running linux, so they probably wouldn't be able to detect the devices easily.
No text messages yet.