[q] update confusion - Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

1.83 is just a speed update right? Like network speed? I am running grey blur with the telstra or what ever radio for the higher upload speeds. ... with that said is there any reasons at all to update to 1.83 anymore? It is there more s
To the 183 update then just dl and up speeds. Right now I get 4-6 down usually like 5.3 down or so annd 1.1 1.4 upload with the 1.77 (telstra or w/e) I went through different fourms and didn't really find my answer so I decided to write the exact question which is it word upgrading ... my battery has gotten worse though . Thank u.
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i highly recommend Going to 1.83. The 1.83 radio is different from the telstra, i had the hot phone and battery issue running it like everyone else. 1.83 Does fix bugs in the system with the screen and a few other tweaks to enhance interaction, I am on 1.83 OTA and phone is cold as ice and my battery last me almost a full day with normal use that is. Might as well get the legit update, an update in future may conflict with the telstra radio. Telstra 1.77.17, 1.83OTA & SBF radio- 1.77.15

Thank u so much I guess ill have to erase my phone all over again and go back to 1.26 and then 157 then 183 right?
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Dirtburgler said:
i highly recommend Going to 1.83. The 1.83 radio is different from the telstra, i had the hot phone and battery issue running it like everyone else. 1.83 Does fix bugs in the system with the screen and a few other tweaks to enhance interaction, I am on 1.83 OTA and phone is cold as ice and my battery last me almost a full day with normal use that is. Might as well get the legit update, an update in future may conflict with the telstra radio. Telstra 1.77.17, 1.83OTA & SBF radio- 1.77.15
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can this 1.83 OTA run over GreyBlur 2.1?
Thanks

Araf said:
can this 1.83 OTA run over GreyBlur 2.1?
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No
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Back to 1.26, then OTA back up to 1.83 then Gingerblur 3.1 if your looking for a pseudo rom. I haven't seen greyblur for 1.83 yet. Im sure its in the works though. ive used them both but i am getting tired of flashing back to 1.26 lol. I think ill wait for the door to the bootloader to be kicked in (if ever) before I put a Rom back on. Im going to give my Atrix Hardware a breather for a while I think.

Araf said:
can this 1.83 OTA run over GreyBlur 2.1?
Thanks
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Here are the steps I had to use being on 1.5.7 with GingerBlur:
Here is what you'll need after backing up your apps/files to the SD Card, in this order:
Download RSD Lite 5.0
Download 1.8.3 sbf
Gingerbreak
GladEnable
Tenwar's System Recovery
GreyBlur 2.X (Or insert custom ROM here)
1: Flash the 1.8.3 update with RSD Lite on to your phone, this will reset your phone completely to stock.
2: Run GingerBreak to roots the device.
3: At this point I was unable to install Tenwar's, so I used GladEnable to sideload it.
4: Installed Tenwar's and loaded up my custom ROM.
5: Restore your backup.

IrateCustomer said:
Here are the steps I had to use being on 1.5.7 with GingerBlur:
Here is what you'll need after backing up your apps/files to the SD Card, in this order:
Download RSD Lite 5.0
Download 1.8.3 sbf
Gingerbreak
GladEnable
Tenwar's System Recovery
GreyBlur 2.X (Or insert custom ROM here)
1: Flash the 1.8.3 update with RSD Lite on to your phone, this will reset your phone completely to stock.
2: Run GingerBreak to roots the device.
3: At this point I was unable to install Tenwar's, so I used GladEnable to sideload it.
4: Installed Tenwar's and loaded up my custom ROM.
5: Restore your backup.
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Thanks for sharing the steps...
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OTA 1.83 possible?

Sorry if this is a newb question or has been answered else where...
But I am rooted and running greyblur on the 1.57... Can I just OTA install 1.83 (its available) or do I have to do it some other way because of my "custom" ROM.
excuse my ignorance, I just got the atrix coming from N1 and I am still learning about this whole developing scene as the bootloader is encrypted and not quite as flexible as what I'm used to.
Thanks so much!
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No, I don't think it will let you update unless you undo your rom or you can flash back to stock.
Here is a guide for flashing the sbf:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=991072
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No, I don't think it will let you update unless you undo your rom or you can flash back to stock.
Here is a guide for flashing the sbf:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=991072
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so does this mean also that I cant install the 1.83 OTA update either if I'm on 1.57 rooted and using GladiAtrix2?....please correct me if there's any of the steps below that I'm about to do is wrong:
1. flash 1.26 sbf
2. OTA update to 1.83
3. use gingerbreak to gain root
I want to use gingerblur that's why I wanna know if the above steps will remove gladiatrix2 rom so that I can update to 1.83 and install gingerblur
just skip the first step and flash the 1.8.3 SBF
Yes I think you can just flash the 1.83 sbf and then use gingerbreak to root.
is there any difference between the sbf 1.83 and the OTA 1.83?
I have no data to back this up, only my opinion-------I Flashed the SBF 1.83 to my brothers atrix as well as my own at the exact same time, since then the OTA has been released. I was having issues with Gingerblur 3.0 so i flashed back to 1.26 then OTA updated back up to 1.83. No more than 30 minutes ago my brother came by and in a side by side comparison (IMO) the menu scrolling is smoother and the overall transitions to other applications is more fluid. I mainly noticed this with the speed test app loading. My OTA 1.83 popped right up and faded into the test screen perfectly. My bros seemed to stutter. These phones are both bone stock besides gingerbreak. One with OTA and one with Flash SBF. If your Atrix is mainly still stock and your dont mind setting your phone up again(ive done it at least 20 times now) then give it a shot and see what you think. Like i said, This is just my opinion, I am Flashing my bros back to 1.26 the trying the OTA method to see if i can replicate results.
Dirtburgler said:
I have no data to back this up, only my opinion-------I Flashed the SBF 1.83 to my brothers atrix as well as my own at the exact same time, since then the OTA has been released. I was having issues with Gingerblur 3.0 so i flashed back to 1.26 then OTA updated back up to 1.83. No more than 30 minutes ago my brother came by and in a side by side comparison (IMO) the menu scrolling is smoother and the overall transitions to other applications is more fluid. I mainly noticed this with the speed test app loading. My OTA 1.83 popped right up and faded into the test screen perfectly. My bros seemed to stutter. These phones are both bone stock besides gingerbreak. One with OTA and one with Flash SBF. If your Atrix is mainly still stock and your dont mind setting your phone up again(ive done it at least 20 times now) then give it a shot and see what you think. Like i said, This is just my opinion, I am Flashing my bros back to 1.26 the trying the OTA method to see if i can replicate results.
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thanks for that dirtburgler, I'll flash back to 1.26 tonight then OTA to 1.83 then use gingerbreak

[HOWTO] Update Walkthrough for those with custom ROMs

Okay, so I see there are many people that have the same questions I had yesterday trying to apply this update with a custom ROM already on my phone. Here is what you'll need and how to get your phone updated. This isn't the only way to do it, but it's what I did and it was pretty easy. It was harder finding out how to do all of this, and in what order than actually doing the process.
It will take a little while to do this, roughly 30-45 minutes.
Here are the steps I had to use being on 1.5.7 with GingerBlur:
Here is what you'll need after backing up your apps/files to the SD Card, in this order:
Download RSD Lite 5.0
Download 1.8.3 sbf
Gingerbreak
GladEnable
Tenwar's System Recovery
GreyBlur 2.X (Or insert custom ROM here)
1: Flash the 1.8.3 update on to your phone using RSD Lite, this will reset your phone completely to stock.
2: Run GingerBreak to root the device.
3: At this point I was unable to install Tenwar's, so I used GladEnable to sideload it.
4: Installed Tenwar's and loaded up my custom ROM.
5: Restore your backup.
This should get you all updated and with your custom ROM installed.
Awesome! Thanks man
quick question: how do we make a backup (Ti Backup?) on our current setups? And will restoring the backup we make bring back all apps and settings and everything?
Thanks a lot for this....
spitefulcheerio said:
Awesome! Thanks man
quick question: how do we make a backup (Ti Backup?) on our current setups? And will restoring the backup we make bring back all apps and settings and everything?
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Yes, use Titanium Backup to backup your User Apps and Data, not the system apps or data. And make sure to backup to your SD Card as the flash with wipe your internal memory and your backup will be lost. I had that issue and had to reinstall all of my apps. It's minor, but still a pain in the ass.
Flashing 1.83 should not wipe anything; as far as apps or info. goes. Some people have had a problem with gingerbreak wiping some things though. I flashed 1.83 and ran ginerbreak with no problems, except for having the bloatware re-installed and loosing my root, but that's to be expected.
Swiftks said:
Flashing 1.83 should not wipe anything; as far as apps or info. goes. Some people have had a problem with gingerbreak wiping some things though. I flashed 1.83 and ran ginerbreak with no problems, except for having the bloatware re-installed and loosing my root, but that's to be expected.
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When I flashed 1.8.3 through RSD Lite, it completely put everything back to bone stock. It wiped the entire internal memory. So I'm not sure if it should or shouldn't, but it did. I know it wasn't GingerBreak because you flash the update before installing GB.
IrateCustomer said:
When I flashed 1.8.3 through RSD Lite, it completely put everything back to bone stock. It wiped the entire internal memory. So I'm not sure if it should or shouldn't, but it did. I know it wasn't GingerBreak because you flash the update before installing GB.
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that's weird, b/c when I flashed it, it didn't wipe anything just added the bloat ware back and changed the radio, etc. still had homescreen the same with all my apps, etc.... oh well
Swiftks said:
that's weird, b/c when I flashed it, it didn't wipe anything just added the bloat ware back and changed the radio, etc. still had homescreen the same with all my apps, etc.... oh well
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Maybe because I was on 1.5.7, and flashed 1.8.3 instead of going back and OTAing the phone. That would make sense because the OTA process probably does a backup/restore during the process. As mentioned in the OP, it's only one way to do it, but there are other options.
the sbf download is sending me to Motorola site,, dont I need the sbf not the exe??
Datblkbro said:
the sbf download is sending me to Motorola site,, dont I need the sbf not the exe??
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I've updated the link in the OP so you can download the correct file. My apologies.
Regarding 1.8.3 sbf, which of the sfb files from the link you provided is it? They vary in size. Thanks.
You want the one with the most hits and the ridiculously long filename.
It actually has 1.8.3 buried in the name of the file. It's a few from the top.
THANK YOU this has been a big question mark for me ever since 1.83 came out. Fantastic guide.
Swiftks said:
Flashing 1.83 should not wipe anything; as far as apps or info. goes. Some people have had a problem with gingerbreak wiping some things though. I flashed 1.83 and ran ginerbreak with no problems, except for having the bloatware re-installed and loosing my root, but that's to be expected.
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Did the GingerBlur 3.1 get fixed when it comes to the Webtop mod? Cuz I read something about it having a problem with actually working on this Rom? Maybe that was on the 3.0, so I figure 3.1 fixed it?
PLease just a simple "yes it works" or "No, it doesn't" will suffice
Thanks
Just wanted to post my initial experience with using RSDlite to update afterting and gingerblurring it.
I followed your how to as much as I could (You should provide a link to RSDlite instructions, I had to search for it because I didn't know how to do it exactly... not a big deal but it would make it easier/idiot proof)
When I first updated via RSDlite, something must hve went wrong. At first, A triangle and lil android was haunting me on my screen... so I went to reboot.. **** [I thought I bricked it]... Then I restarted it again... DOUBLE ****... Couldn't load into recovery... I restarted a third time and it loaded up(**** YES). But for some odd reason, it said I still had to update (even though it said the firmware was @ 1.8.3.)
Everything seemed to work fine, and was able too root and ginger blur it. About a few hours later, wifi seemed wonky (kept randomly disconnecting and the update dialog came up every 15 minutes).
I ended up reflashing to 1.2.8 and OTA's all the way up to 1.8.3 and then re-rooted and blurred it. No problems since the full refresh
Hopefully everybody elses experience goes better than mine!
Also, Random question. How do you remove Tenwars System Recovery app after using it to load up a rom?
winky! said:
Also, Random question. How do you remove Tenwars System Recovery app after using it to load up a rom?
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You can use Uninstaller for Root (I found it on the Market), and you can uninstall from there if you wish. Personally I see no real reason to remove it, but you can if you need to with the above referenced Uninstaller. There are a few others that can do it, but UfR is free, which is clearly a win.
564mb for the sfb??? Thats freaking huge
GreyBlur on 1.8.3
After following the steps I still show
"System Version 4.1.57MB860.ATT.us"
rooted and sideloading enabled by gladroot then flashed greyblur 2.1....little help for the n00b?

[Q] how to update to 1.83 after root

I have an AT&T Atrix and have done very minor mod's. Gingerbreak to get root, the radio fix, and allowed tethering by changing the true/false flag in the config.
Runing 1.57 at the moment and figured I should get around to updating to 1.83 (i had frozen this with titanium backup), however it fails and I get the triangle/exclamation mark/robot picture on boot and have to pull the battery and restart.
Am I going to have to somehow go back to defaults and wipe phone to be able to update? If so how?
Help appreciated, this is my first android phone
I was having the same problem. So i flashed back to 1.26 thru rsd lite and then with the phone completely unmodded I downloaded and installed the OTA update. Then proceeded to apply mods.
Quickest way would be the 1.8.3 sbf followed by the 1.2.6 sbf then ota to 1.8.3 in a close second. Both options wipes the phone AFAIK so backup user data
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SBF to 1.8.3 Gingerbreak. Done. wipes your internal sd, so backup.
Great thanks for the advice, I had a feeling I was going to have to reflash it in some way.
ok I picked up some directions from brief mobile (it wont let me show the link) ... however it keeps failing during the update.
Everything works fine does exactly what the guide says, it start executing and then after about a minute or so it fails.
Anyone have some better directions or another sbf file? Preferably an sbf for 1.83?
Never mind, sorted it out, just my work computer being retarded for some reason.
GladRoot is still my preferred method of root, whenever moto releases a new update all I have to do is accept it and run afterupdate.bat.

[Q] From Gingerblur to 2.3.4 HKTW?

I'm sorry if somebody already posted that, i swear I had a look
I have a SIM unlocked AT&T MB860 Atrix with gingerblur 4.5, and I would like to try some real gingerbread goods, which means bootloader unlock and 2.3.4 HKTW.
Do I have to flash back to 1.8.3 stock sbf before actually unlocking and installing gingerbread? I heard people saying is not safe to flash sbf for SIM-Unlocked Atrix because it can cause Wi-Fi problems, is it still the case?
Second problem: I had my phone rooted, but now I don't have an external micro SD card, so I wouldn't be able to root with gingerbreak-similar methods, is this a deal breaker or there is another way to complete the process all the way through?
Thanks a lot
As a general rule, it's best to flash back to stock before flashing anything else. Because Gingerblur requires Tenfar's recovery to run, I believe this will be the best way to do this. If someone else could chime in about the SIM-unlock/wifi issue, that would be great.
As for the rooting method on 2.3.4 HKTW, it works by installing a ZIP through recovery. In my own experience, it only seems to read external SD cards. If you can make it read the internal somehow, then you should be able to root.
i was on GingerBlur 3.1 (rooted via GladRoot), and did the following over the weekend
- flashed the unlocker SBF (still on 1.8.3)
- flashed the new CWM onto the phone via fastboot
- flashed GingerBlur 4.5 using that CWM, just for a few days
- flashed the 2.3.4 IMG using the Windows x64 guide in the general forum.
ran into no problems, and the GB build was already rooted when it booted up.
dLo GSR said:
i was on GingerBlur 3.1 (rooted via GladRoot), and did the following over the weekend
- flashed the unlocker SBF (still on 1.8.3)
- flashed the new CWM onto the phone via fastboot
- flashed GingerBlur 4.5 using that CWM, just for a few days
- flashed the 2.3.4 IMG using the Windows x64 guide in the general forum.
ran into no problems, and the GB build was already rooted when it booted up.
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Good to know, thanks!
Did you clear data or anything like that after flashing?
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Good to know, thanks!
Did you clear data or anything like that after flashing?
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oh, right, forgot. i did do the fastboot -w beforehand.
i have simunlocked atrix as well, it makes no difference.
I went from Greyblur straight to GB with no issues.
Thanks guys
This is worth a try
If I wanted to return to the stock ROM after flashing 2.3.4, all I have to do is RSDLite flash 1.8.3 back correct and then restore using CWM?
kshiuan said:
If I wanted to return to the stock ROM after flashing 2.3.4, all I have to do is RSDLite flash 1.8.3 back correct and then restore using CWM?
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I just did this tonight, and for some reason, I had some problems flashing the 1.8.3 SBF directly. So I downloaded the 1.2.6 (shipping) firmware and just did the updates.

[Q] Flashing ZIPs Aborts

Nitro suggested I update to 2.3.5 before I go about installing the Eclipse 2.0 update this evening. Well whenever I try and flash a zip from SD card, it aborts and gives an error. It happens with the Update, and installing ROMS. I fear that I won't be able to update to 2.0 this evening because of this error. Any ideas to fix it?
Try and sbf and get a clean start. If you heave not done that then do that first. Which update did you use? .412 or. 413
Which recovery are you flashing the update from? I flash it from my external. See if that makes a difference. And as said you have to be bone stock 2.3.4 for the update to work
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Which recovery are you flashing the update from? I flash it from my external. See if that makes a difference. And as said you have to be bone stock 2.3.4 for the update to work
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Updated with android recovery. The last time I tried to flash molten it aborted but I did not care since I already had backup of eclipse 1.3 I just updated to 2.3.5 with android recovery and restored root with rootkeeper app.
The best I have done is sbf the leak then flash the 213 ota from folder "1 235" in my fake mp3 http://www.mediafire.com/file/4loqisamcd4y8ya/1_to_4_235isAzip.mp3 just change it to .zip.
Ah this sucks. I flashed eclipse 2.0 and it aborted line 294 permission error crap again. So I sbf back to 2.3.4 and re rooted. Re did the update and then tried again. Same error. Man I dont understand it will flash everything else except on the roms. When I went to 2.3.5 I flashed the drop down toggles and battery fix. This only happens when I flash roms. I have work tomorrow so i guess I will sbf one more time and re root so I can get back to my back up of eclipse 1.3 and mess with this again on my next day off on Sunday. Maybe I will try to go back to 2.3.3 and do OTA updates? I am at a lost and have not heard of any fixes for this out there yet!!!
Still having the same problem here, too. I just sbf'ed to 2.2.2 instead of 2.3.4 and took all OTA's. Did a NAND on 2.3.4. Getting ready to update to 2.3.5 via stock recovery.
Well that was a fail, too. Currently on stock 2.3.5 rooted. Guess I'm not sure what to do now. I still have my nand of Eclipse 1.3 but would have to sbf back to 2.3.4 again and go through it all just to restore it. This sucks!
Just got 2.0.1 Eclipse running this morning no issues.
UbuntuBrandon said:
Just got 2.0.1 Eclipse running this morning no issues.
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What did you do it get it to work? Did it fail last night for you also or was this your first time trying?
Well I SBF'd and factory reset from stock recovery. Then I updated to 2.3.5 from stock recovery. Then I rooted with ZergRush, and then I flashed 2.0.1 Eclipse with x2 Bootstrap.
There have been issues with Root Keeper. So if any of you are using that, dont. Follow these instructions and use these files:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1391824
I finally got it working, too. Root keeper is the issue. Now on 2.0.1. Will be on 2.0.2 later tonight!
Sent from my DROID X2 on Eclipse 2.0.1.
Agreed. 2.0.2 will be on mine too. I vote, though, that these minor updates chill xD

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