Rooting after OTA update? - Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I just bought an Atrix today and love it. Now starting to teach myself with the whole XDA scene of the phone and I guess I have a simple noob question. I've updated the phone as soon as I left the AT&T store with those HSUPA fixes (2 patches I believe) but can I root the phone now?
Also I know the phone has 1 gb of ram but I was told it only uses that in webtop. Is there a way we can get ALL of that ram for while its in phone mode!!

FerraraZ said:
I just bought an Atrix today and love it. Now starting to teach myself with the whole XDA scene of the phone and I guess I have a simple noob question. I've updated the phone as soon as I left the AT&T store with those HSUPA fixes (2 patches I believe) but can I root the phone now?
Also I know the phone has 1 gb of ram but I was told it only uses that in webtop. Is there a way we can get ALL of that ram for while its in phone mode!!
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Use Gingerbreak to root phone:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1046626
Think you need a micro sd card though. I have one, so I don't ever pay attention to those details.

I have one in there as well. Took an 8GB Sd card from my last phone.

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Possible new root method (need devs)

This method was brought to my attention from another user. I have uploaded the files for the root method, this was originally developed for the droid x
Download link:
http://www.sendspace.com/file/r0pc3m
Resource link:
http://www.tomsguide.com/us/how-to-root-droid-x,news-7570.html
Hopefully we can have some devs look at this and maybe we can come up with a new root method around the new ota update and possible opening up the slide for more modding in the future with more exploits.
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Do you seriously think that nobody has tried any root methods from other HTC phones?
Sent from my T-Mobile myTouch 3G Slide using XDA Appdon't you think anyone has looked into the
By the way, the current root method is EASY. If it is too difficult you shouldn't be doing it at all.
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If you knew what you were talking about you know that the ota update patches the old root method and for those users that are just now rooting their phones after the update won't be able too via the old method.
And in no way have I stated that the old method was hard. I've rooted my phone already and have loading custom rom and everything.
If you don't have anything constructive to say shut the eff up.
Oh and btw the droid x is motorola
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Armyjon88 said:
If you knew what you were talking about you know that the ota update patches the old root method and for those users that are just now rooting their phones after the update won't be able too via the old method.
And in no way have I stated that the old method was hard. I've rooted my phone already and have loading custom rom and everything.
If you don't have anything constructive to say shut the eff up.
Oh and btw the droid x is motorola
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The guys voice in the video makes me want to shoot myself. I highly doubt this method would work for the Slide -- YMMV.
haha owned
The key to the current root method is the SDCARD. Thats it. I tried 3 different SD cards (G1, MT3GSlide, and Transcend 8gb Class 6) and no luck. Popped in my GF's old blackberry curve sdcard, and was rooted in less than 5 mins. Hell I didn't even have to be all precise in the root process, rebooted to recovery, plugged in the cable and adb showed recovery 100% of the time.
MortICi said:
The key to the current root method is the SDCARD.
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No, it isn't. Stop spreading this nonsense.
I've rooted *my* Slide on three separate occasions -- once with a class 10 16 GB card, once with a class 6 16 GB card and once with the card that shipped with my Slide -- and rooted a coworkers Slide (with the stock sdcard) as well. The sdcard doesn't matter. The root method for the Slide exploits a race condition, one that requires great luck and good timing.
Your sdcard truly does not matter. I cannot believe this silliness is still being perpetuated...
I believe - as a dev, not as a clueless user - that the SD card can in fact matter in this process. As you said our current method exploits a race condition in ADB. It makes perfect sense that in order to increase the time that the race condition is active for you can use an SD card that is slower (and thus keeps ADB stuck in the race for a moment longer).
Personally I can NEVER get the race condition with adb shell with my Transcend 8gb Class 6 card. If I pop in an unrated SD card I can get it in a few tries.
It's possible that it's all speculation, but until we have the source code for the bootloader I don't think we should disprove this theory.
Yeah I think a slower, lower-class SDcard might play a part in getting the timing down right. I have done it on a class 6 already without issues though.
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Armyjon88 said:
This method was brought to my attention from another user. I have uploaded the files for the root method, this was originally developed for the droid x
Download link:
http://www.sendspace.com/file/r0pc3m
Resource link:
http://www.tomsguide.com/us/how-to-root-droid-x,news-7570.html
Hopefully we can have some devs look at this and maybe we can come up with a new root method around the new ota update and possible opening up the slide for more modding in the future with more exploits.
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Thanks Army. I'll take a look at this on Friday and see if I can port this to Slide.
It will not help us open up the Slide more, however, since the NAND (flash memory) in our device is security locked. There is only one way to unlock it and we do not have access to that. I am, however, going to look into constructing a USB console cable for the Slide and seeing if I can manipulate things from that port.
And I must apologize to the OP. I have to learn not to go on forums right after waking up. Not only was I a **** but I didn't make any damn sense.
Sent from my T-Mobile myTouch 3G Slide using XDA App
Hopefully, there is some hope for dummies like me who did the OTA update without thinking and are now unrootable. just wanted to say thanks guys.
HebrewToYou said:
No, it isn't. Stop spreading this nonsense.
I've rooted *my* Slide on three separate occasions -- once with a class 10 16 GB card, once with a class 6 16 GB card and once with the card that shipped with my Slide -- and rooted a coworkers Slide (with the stock sdcard) as well. The sdcard doesn't matter. The root method for the Slide exploits a race condition, one that requires great luck and good timing.
Your sdcard truly does not matter. I cannot believe this silliness is still being perpetuated...
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Agreed
nbetcher said:
I believe - as a dev, not as a clueless user - that the SD card can in fact matter in this process. As you said our current method exploits a race condition in ADB. It makes perfect sense that in order to increase the time that the race condition is active for you can use an SD card that is slower (and thus keeps ADB stuck in the race for a moment longer).
Personally I can NEVER get the race condition with adb shell with my Transcend 8gb Class 6 card. If I pop in an unrated SD card I can get it in a few tries.
It's possible that it's all speculation, but until we have the source code for the bootloader I don't think we should disprove this theory.
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Sorry nb, but I have not seen any evidence to suggest that faster SDcards do not work for rooting (other than a few people with low post counts saying so). When I rooted my Slide with a stock class 2 it took at least 100 tries to get the race condition.
Meh.
stoneyjonez said:
Yeah I think a slower, lower-class SDcard might play a part in getting the timing down right. I have done it on a class 6 already without issues though.
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See above.
no offense taken stoney
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I honestly do not believe it's the sdcard either. I read about the sdcard part while I was trying to root my Slide and I tried a few different ones each time it would not work. When I finally did root my Slide it was with the stock sdcard some people just got really lucky with how adb was caught others did not it took me well over 2 days to get things to work right. But honestly it was worth it but I swear I'm not doing it again untill we actually have a spl we can get the security turned off on and hopefully that fixes alot of the root problems.
I tried it like 100 times before I realized that the OTA update broke it, LOL. Not proud of that.
Here my thoughts on what you guys are saying:
-I tried 3 cards of various classes and brands, offline doesnt show on all of the cards
-the usb cord might play a role too, with another rooted phone i attempted to try adb shell with 2 different usb crds(one from charger piece, other from ps3 controller)anyway the one for the ps3 cont actually worked and the other didnt even register in adb
Some of you might say this is BS...but that's up to you to choose not me
OK HI!! i was the one that brought this attention, as this method was used to root the n1, and another forum it was used to root the g1/mytouch.. and this same forum even said it could possibly work on most android devices.. as you have to think this was for the droid X with fully lock bootloader any tampering would send in recovery loop unless you had an offiicial OTA to reflash factory rom.. This is indeed something to look into as these steps are simple adb push and a exploit in wifi... no one sayin that it can work or will work! but cause of this i am in root with latest android OS FRF91, so to think bout it if this expoit existed in current OTA ROM, im pretty sure it still there in previous ones as well...
I was hoping this method was for the MTS as its the ez root ever.. other method is ez too my wife slide is rooted, but as i read the OTA breaks the Root.. so try to help where i can..buy giving suggestions that could possible work
Look at me !(iono something to say)
But here is the link that same method worked on several other android phones
http://c-skills.blogspot.com/2010/07/android-trickery.html
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and here is the original post on where they used it to root the Droid X
http://alldroid.org/default.aspx?g=posts&t=493
why i post this jus to give further proof that this can possibly work jus Need devs into looking on how to make it work
I honestly never thought there was a timing problem. I rooted on my first try. Didn't know it could take forever until my brother told me it took him 3 hours to root his lol.
I noticed I always get better luck if I start back at pushing the ota.zip instead of repeating pushing the update.zip and usually get it.

rooting?

Hey guys, I got the g1 when it first came out, and i rooted it after having it for about 6 months i think, well i've had the vibrant for about 3 months now, and i'm starting to wonder if i should root? I was wondering if there's a list somewhere that says what a rooted vibrant can do? or if one of you amazing people would just make up a list real quick. I know the reason i rooted the g1 was to get multi touch, tethering, and apps to sd. Since the vibrant does all that, and has the 16 gb internal, i was wondering what the draw is to root the vibrant...thanks guys.
vballrkc said:
Hey guys, I got the g1 when it first came out, and i rooted it after having it for about 6 months i think, well i've had the vibrant for about 3 months now, and i'm starting to wonder if i should root? I was wondering if there's a list somewhere that says what a rooted vibrant can do? or if one of you amazing people would just make up a list real quick. I know the reason i rooted the g1 was to get multi touch, tethering, and apps to sd. Since the vibrant does all that, and has the 16 gb internal, i was wondering what the draw is to root the vibrant...thanks guys.
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Well if the vibrant the way it is, is working out for you then there is no point rooting. If you need more from your device like wireless tethering, make full backups of your phone incase tmobile comes up with another OTA update and bricks your phone or you want to remove some of the bloatware like Avatar or Media hub. Then head over to the Development section, start reading through the Vibrant Bible.
Hope this helps.
Check the sticky. I show how easy it is, what you can do and how to make the phone faster.
That would really set him back if he wanted to go back to fusion. I lost root when I odin ji6. Minor inconvenience.
Just unlock your phone man.

[Q] just got the vibrant today and i was wondering if u can use the lag fix without

im new to the vibrant and im coming from a mytouch 4g and i notice a lot of lag here and there. i was wondering if i can do a one click fix without having to root my phone? i want to still receive ota updates. also do i need an sd to do it? i bought the phone and it didnt have the sd card but i didnt care since it has 16gb internal memory.
s10shane said:
im new to the vibrant and im coming from a mytouch 4g and i notice a lot of lag here and there. i was wondering if i can do a one click fix without having to root my phone? i want to still receive ota updates. also do i need an sd to do it? i bought the phone and it didnt have the sd card but i didnt care since it has 16gb internal memory.
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No... Sorry, but you can root & still get OTA's
Also, the phone should of had a 2gb micro SD inside it already (It really has 14 GB internal)
Also, no you do not need an SD
Master™ said:
No... Sorry, but you can root & still get OTA's
Also, the phone should of had a 2gb micro SD inside it already (It really has 14 GB internal)
Also, no you do not need an SD
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so u can still get the ota's well its rooted. yeah it should have but i bought it used from a dude that only used it for 2 days and it only came with the phone charger/usb cable and a case. but i got it for 220 so i cant really complain. took back my mytouch 4g cause i used my upgrade to get it then i saw google and samsung is making a nexus s or whatever and it will be out next year so i didnt wanna waste my upgrade on a mytouch 4g over that new phone whenever it comes out lol.
s10shane said:
so u can still get the ota's well its rooted. yeah it should have but i bought it used from a dude that only used it for 2 days and it only came with the phone charger/usb cable and a case. but i got it for 220 so i cant really complain. took back my mytouch 4g cause i used my upgrade to get it then i saw google and samsung is making a nexus s or whatever and it will be out next year so i didnt wanna waste my upgrade on a mytouch 4g over that new phone whenever it comes out lol.
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Yes, you can still get OTAs if rooted
Master™ said:
Yes, you can still get OTAs if rooted
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well thats really nice the mytouch 4g sucked when rooting. it was a pain in the ass and u couldnt get it back to stock to easy. i heard there is a one click root which is nice lol. hey i noticed i dont have avatar the movie on my phone. is that on the sd card or the internal memory?
s10shane said:
well thats really nice the mytouch 4g sucked when rooting. it was a pain in the ass and u couldnt get it back to stock to easy. i heard there is a one click root which is nice lol. hey i noticed i dont have avatar the movie on my phone. is that on the sd card or the internal memory?
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Yeah, the MT4G was a pain.. It took me an hour :/
Yeah, the one click root is really good & easy.
And yeah. Avatar is on the External SD :/
Master™ said:
Yeah, the MT4G was a pain.. It took me an hour :/
Yeah, the one click root is really good & easy.
And yeah. Avatar is on the External SD :/
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nice what is the best one click root? thats all i gotta do then just do the lag fix? im new to this phone so i know nothing about it. lol but that sucks its on the sd card cause i just bought one since my phone didnt come with the 2gb one since i bought it from someone. but is there anyway someone can upload it so i can download it?
s10shane said:
nice what is the best one click root? thats all i gotta do then just do the lag fix? im new to this phone so i know nothing about it. lol but that sucks its on the sd card cause i just bought one since my phone didnt come with the 2gb one since i bought it from someone. but is there anyway someone can upload it so i can download it?
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Well, you can go to the market and search for "OCLF" (One click Lagfix)
It has an option to root the phone, then you can install a lagfix right inside it.
But as far as Avatar goes, sorry. I don't have it anymore.
Master™ said:
Well, you can go to the market and search for "OCLF" (One click Lagfix)
It has an option to root the phone, then you can install a lagfix right inside it.
But as far as Avatar goes, sorry. I don't have it anymore.
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i tired the one click lagfix in the market but when i use it too root my phone it says to boot into recovery and install the update.zip but i dont have an sd card right now so idk if i can get the root to work. im a bit confused. all i see when i try to boot into recovery is reboot system now reinstall packages delete all user data and delete cache data
s10shane said:
i tired the one click lagfix in the market but when i use it too root my phone it says to boot into recovery and install the update.zip but i dont have an sd card right now so idk if i can get the root to work. im a bit confused. all i see when i try to boot into recovery is reboot system now reinstall packages delete all user data and delete cache data
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the update.zip needs to be on the root of your internal sd card (which is not removable so you definitly have one
then just reboot into recovery and flash it
firefly6240 said:
the update.zip needs to be on the root of your internal sd card (which is not removable so you definitly have one
then just reboot into recovery and flash it
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sweet. now i just need to find someone that has the avatar movie on there sd card. i like that movie and i dont have it. lol

[Q] Apps to external SD

I was hoping the OTA update I got this morning would fix this. Any idea when LG plans to address this issue with their version of ICS so we can run apps from the SD card? This phone is a piece of crap without it.
Odp: [Q] Apps to external SD
There is a thread about it. Lg doesn't fix this because orginal Ics haven't got this feature. Only if phone have before older system.
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Check this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2096138
luq529 said:
There is a thread about it. Lg doesn't fix this because orginal Ics haven't got this feature. Only if phone have before older system.
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Original ics has apps2sd
ok looks like I'm wrong. It's werid though since every device I've had with ICS and Jelly Bean includes Apps2SD.
Here is a little more info http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=34357665&postcount=15
Sent from my LG-P769 using xda premium
With only two gigs of internal storage and nearly a gig of that being taken up by t-mobile bloatware this is literally the biggest paperweight of a smart phone I have ever owned. Ive installed my bank app and a couple other productivity apps but I can't even load a game to this thing. And Google has released a fix to ICS that addresses the issue. Samsung implemented it on the S3. This is the first and last LG product I will ever own. What a P.O.S.
PyroCee said:
With only two gigs of internal storage and nearly a gig of that being taken up by t-mobile bloatware this is literally the biggest paperweight of a smart phone I have ever owned. Ive installed my bank app and a couple other productivity apps but I can't even load a game to this thing. And Google has released a fix to ICS that addresses the issue. Samsung implemented it on the S3. This is the first and last LG product I will ever own. What a P.O.S.
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I completely agree with you. I installed Zombies Run which is about 300MB, 3 apps that were just under 70MB and a few more apps that were way smaller and I was out of memory 2 days after I got the phone.
alienkid said:
I completely agree with you. I installed Zombies Run which is about 300MB, 3 apps that were just under 70MB and a few more apps that were way smaller and I was out of memory 2 days after I got the phone.
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The biggest edge Android has over the biphone is it's expandable memory card slot. Any limitation on the functionality of that slot is a HUGE error in judgement. I have a 32 gig card in my phone that is virtually useless in my phone unless I root it and kill the warranty. This is a MASSIVE blunder on the part of LG. This phone also has no hands free dialing capability which makes it illegal to use in cars in virtually every state in the U.S. I think this is why T-Mobile stopped offering this device outside of it's prepaid plans. Probably to kill off the remainder of what they had in stock. I don't even see any other LG products in it's lineup. Looks like their decision to offer their flagship device the Optimus G exclusively to AT&T and the bomb of this over priced paperweight may end up killing their product lineup. The S4 will be coming out soon and the S3 will drop to the price the S2 is currently sitting at and I'll be replacing this P.O.S.
PyroCee said:
The biggest edge Android has over the biphone is it's expandable memory card slot. Any limitation on the functionality of that slot is a HUGE error in judgement. I have a 32 gig card in my phone that is virtually useless in my phone unless I root it and kill the warranty. This is a MASSIVE blunder on the part of LG. This phone also has no hands free dialing capability which makes it illegal to use in cars in virtually every state in the U.S. I think this is why T-Mobile stopped offering this device outside of it's prepaid plans. Probably to kill off the remainder of what they had in stock. I don't even see any other LG products in it's lineup. Looks like their decision to offer their flagship device the Optimus G exclusively to AT&T and the bomb of this over priced paperweight may end up killing their product lineup. The S4 will be coming out soon and the S3 will drop to the price the S2 is currently sitting at and I'll be replacing this P.O.S.
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I may even get my old DroidX2 from Verizon out of the drawer and jail break it to use with T-Mobile. Even it is a better phone out of the box with 512megs of memory because it doesn't have this limitation on the SD card.
PyroCee said:
I was hoping the OTA update I got this morning would fix this. Any idea when LG plans to address this issue with their version of ICS so we can run apps from the SD card? This phone is a piece of crap without it.
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I used Link2SD, but that requires root, and judging by the fact you just said you got an OTA update, I'll assume you have the t-Mobile L9, and that probably means 10G was your update, so if you are not rooted now, sorry bro, but you're gonna have to wait for the devs to figure out root on 10G for the Tmo L9.
Of course, if you have any other model L9, such as P760 or 765, disregard everything I have just said. IDK if there is root for the latest 760/765/768.
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I used Link2SD, but that requires root, and judging by the fact you just said you got an OTA update, I'll assume you have the t-Mobile L9, and that probably means 10G was your update, so if you are not rooted now, sorry bro, but you're gonna have to wait for the devs to figure out root on 10G for the Tmo L9.
Of course, if you have any other model L9, such as P760 or 765, disregard everything I have just said. IDK if there is root for the latest 760/765/768.
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I have P765, and achieved root by flashing V10b Indonesia, rooting, then OTA update to V10c then to V10e. Root still intact.
Can you share with me how do you use link2sd. I installed it via google play, create second partition in my sd with fat32, then launched link2sd, choose fat32. It give me error, mount script cannot be created. Any ideas?
EDIT: I got it working. My mistake was not set second partition type to primary. But now I'm succesfully linking app, my internal usage still not decreasing. Hmm...
You really need the directory bind app found here in the forum . You do need to be rooted but you can then link your internal memory to the SD even if your phone normally doesn't allow you to. Search 'directory bind' to find it
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Could u please provide link for step by step tutorial to root p765? (Or teach me anyhow)
Did u managed to "link2sd" properly working on this device, to get rid of less internal memory issue?
I really want to play some HD games on this device but limited memory is stopping me from doing that, could we expect jellybean update would fix this?
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Please check http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2096138
For me I have problem with 3.Replacing Internal SD with External SD. I got error while install new app when my internal SD is nearly full. Phone "internal storage" available in "App" menu don't change to new size.
I use both Link2SD (to move app apk) and Directory Bind (to move some game data).
Link2SD work fine. But Directory Bind don't work with some app (ex. Sygic)

[Q] MAJOR NOOB needs help with using my external SD for apps and data

So I have looked around XDA-Developers for at least 3 hours now over the past few weeks (most from work!), and I am still absolutely lost when it comes to fixing my L9 P769 ((running JB 4.1.2 (SW Ver P76920h)) so that I can install apps to my ext. SD card.
I have read multiple forums and posting, and I am convinced that you all KNOW what your are doing, but I still can make sense of your posts enough to fix my own phone. Can anyone PLEASE explain this in as much detail as possible, step by step?
I am not as big a NOOB as some (I have flashed ROMs to 5 different phones over the years) BUT I still can't get this one figured out, and the last thing I want to do is screw up the phone I need for daily communication.
My wish list for this phone is not that long.
1) Apps to my Ext. SD
2) ability to communicate with a heart rate strap (I think I need BT 4.0, but I read somewhere that it could be done with this phone.)
3) Maybe make my phone a little faster (OC of CPU? what does overclocking the GPU help with?)
I'd rather not put a new ROM (.kdz?) on this phone, unless it's FLAWLESS. I have a very low tolerance for glitches, in my old age!
Thanks for any help and all replies!
macdofco
LG L9 P769 (rooted/locked bootloader(?))
16GB SD card
T-Mobile (unlimited 4G Data $70!... actually only 3.5G, lol)
Let me save you some time...
Answer to question 1...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1410262
If it works for you. Thank him. I've used this on many devices. Refer to:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=35775470&postcount=6
I think the screen shots tell a thousand words.
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