So... Big Red sent me an email today saying that Im eligible for a new phone. While I'd love a thunderbolt (save the not-so-great screen resolution), my budget is more along the lines of the Fascinate. My biggest reason for choosing this phone, other than having specs that are quite in line with the D2 and DX, is that I can FINALLY get away from having a locked bootloader. Sadly, while the D2 is a great phone, it's all but dead as the independent development community can't support the phone to the full extent.
Anyways, having done my research, I've landed here =)
I have about a year under my belt with applying custom ROMs, unbricking my phone via .sbf files using Motorola's RSDlite program, overclocking, and even designing and applying my own splash screens. I know, obviously, that the Fasciante is going to be an entirely different animal than what Im used to.
Basically Im wondering if some of you guys with experience could point me in the right direction as far as rooting methods, installing a custom recovery (is there more than one? Or rather, a preferred one?), and which kernel's and ROMs would you guys recommend?
All of your input is much appreciated, as I look forward to becoming a part of your community in the very near future =) Many thanks in advance!
**edit: pardon my idiocy, I just realized I posted this in the wrong section. my apologies.
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This thread should get you started:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1053567
Community ROM and Evil Fascination ROM seem to be the most stable/popular/best ROMs out there at the moment and they both come with kernels installed so you don't need to worry about that. However, I suggest you do some reading to form your own opinion and gain some knowledge about these ROMs/kernels before you go ahead and flash them. Everything you need is in the threads for these ROMs:
Evil Fascination: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1035420
Community: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1050453
As for your question about custom recoveries (ClockworkMods or CWM), there is a sort of transition period going on right now between two different types of recoveries. For a long while everyone was using something called amend scripting for their ROMs, Kernels and MODs. This meant that these could only be flashed through CWM 2.5.x (also called red recovery). Now since there is a newer version of CWM (New red recovery or 3.x) that only uses edify scripting, developers are starting to make the transition from amend to edify so their products can be compatible with the new CWM. Therefore, most of the newer stuff will most likely be edify (3.x) while the older stuff will be amend (2.5.x). I would suggest going with the newer CWM but like I said before, you should probably do some reading and form your own opinion.
New CWM: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1046905
And finally.........
Welcome to the Fascinate Community!!! If you need any help just ask (in the correct forum of course) and someone will definitely help you out.
Thanks a ton, this helped me a lot!
I bought my Fascinate today, and it's already rooted, running Evil Fascination 3.5.1 =) I took your recommendation of going to 3.x recovery as well, as that's the direction everyone seems to be going after doing some more reading/research.
That being said, I truly can't believe the difference in responsiveness compared to my D2! Sure the D2 was crisp and fast, but its a night and day difference when you're able to run a custom kernel with a fully customized/optimized ROM!
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Hello everyone,
most recently I have updated my Hero to the new ROM supplied by the fellows at HTC (the 2.73... I think). Then I remembered that on my HTC S710 I used to have a rom that came from here. So, I took a look. I have a couple of questions. Oh, let me also tell you that I have rooted my phone (I think, with Instant Root).
So these are my questions:
What do you think is the best rom available?
And why? What are its advantages to a 'normal' HTC Rom?
As a beginner, I can look over this forum for hours (I did!) but still miss out on this answer!
there is no answer to this question, that's why.
It's like asking which is better, up or down?
Everyone will prefer a different ROM for different reasons. get your device flashed to the new recovery image and then you can try all the ROMS and decide for yourself what the 'best' one is.
Personally i stick with the generic ROMs and haven't used the modaco custom ROMs yet as i am happy with the way the device works and not in need of all the hacks that other people want as i rarely use them.
you may be different.
try them all and decide for yourself.
Hm. Yes, I like the way you are thinking - and heck, it is the second time you've given me a great reply! I'll go out and tinker with the world, and more specific: with ROMs! Although I have no idea what flashing my device to a new recovery image means, I do remember having to do something similar with my S710. And I am sure I will find an explanation here! Who knows, pherhaps in a short while, I will answer my own questions!
There aren't many customised ROMs for the Hero yet, partly because the source code isn't available yet from HTC, so the ones that do exist are based on versions of the HTC ROMs.
Use Flashrec and install the awesome modified cyanogen recovery image, then you can flash one of the ROMs. I chose the stock UK ROM pre-rooted, from MoDaCo's site (not the MoDaCo customised ROM though).
It's convenient because it is pretty much the stock experience, except it's pre-rooted which makes some other things possible.
dekraan said:
Hm. Yes, I like the way you are thinking - and heck, it is the second time you've given me a great reply! I'll go out and tinker with the world, and more specific: with ROMs! Although I have no idea what flashing my device to a new recovery image means, I do remember having to do something similar with my S710. And I am sure I will find an explanation here! Who knows, pherhaps in a short while, I will answer my own questions!
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Hey, I upgraded from a S710 to a Hero as well. I'm very happy with having done that as the Hero is such a better phone!
Anyway. Flashing a new recovery image is one one of these 'tinkering' things you/we have to get used to when playing with ROMs. Essentially the recovery image is a very basic control on the phone that you can reboot into, from where you can update the ROM or do total system backups. You can read about how to do this in MoDaCo's custom ROM thread in the android development section. Flashing a new recovery image and new ROM isn't too hard really; took me at most a couple of hours.
I've got a GSM Hero, rooted, running a custom 2.2 ROM. Rooting my Hero, flashing a custom recovery image, and then using any update.zip was super simple.
Now I'm getting a Vibrant and I'd like to unlock it (which looks pretty simple) and install the various fixes for lag and GPS. The problem is that all the Vibrant devs seem to use completely different terminology for everything than the Hero devs.
Ideally, I'd like to run a rooted stock ROM with the lag and GPS fixes. Can anyone point me in the right direction and maybe explain the J15, J3, Odin, etc things in Hero terms lol?
QuantumRand said:
I've got a GSM Hero, rooted, running a custom 2.2 ROM. Rooting my Hero, flashing a custom recovery image, and then using any update.zip was super simple.
Now I'm getting a Vibrant and I'd like to unlock it (which looks pretty simple) and install the various fixes for lag and GPS. The problem is that all the Vibrant devs seem to use completely different terminology for everything than the Hero devs.
Ideally, I'd like to run a rooted stock ROM with the lag and GPS fixes. Can anyone point me in the right direction and maybe explain the J15, J3, Odin, etc things in Hero terms lol?
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Ji5 is just the last digits from any update that is released by samsung. Like build 11353_ji5 or 22144_ji6. Odin is a program used to flash different roms onto the vibrant. Read the "Read before posting" sticky in the android development section for the vibrant. That should help further
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Hi Guys,
I would like to ask you a question.
I just got the lastest updated from viewsonic for my gtbab. This upgrade includes some improvements such as : support for mouse and keyboard usb,french and spanish language , full flash support...
So at this point.. I am wondering...is still a good idea to install a custom rom?
If so, could you please point out what real advantages I can get once installed a custom rom?
It's important for me if it is worth to do it. So I need your real expertise in the subject.
Thanks
ralex76,
It really just depends on what meets your needs.
The current stock ROM -- 1.2.4349 -- is way improved from the old software we got
back last November. But it still does not have Market and some of the little fixes
the devs have come up with here.
I would note that roebeet already has posted that he will not be too long in posting
a new version of his TwoTapsX alternate ROM based on the new update. I am sure
he will build Market and fixes into it just like he has all his ROMs in the past (though
I can't speak for him). So that will make it a pretty close alternative to stock with
everything in it.
Then, there's Vegan, Gingerbread, Calkulin and a whole host of other ROMs with a
wide variety of looks and features.
The choice is yours based on (1) what you like and want, and (2) how much risk
to you want to take in learning to flash ROMs (and if needed troubleshoot, etc.)
I tell all new folks to go slow, read hugely here, notice what mistakes everyone
else is making so you don't make them yourself -- and have fun!!!
Rev
I think you just need to search around and look at the benefits of each ROM and compare it to your tablet. We don't know how and for what you are using your tab, so it is up to you if a ROM is more suitable for your situaion.
I think if you are fine with the stock ROM and don't see anything that you would want differently, don't bother flashing something else.
Also, make sure to look at Roebeets post regarding the newest OTA update!
Hey
I was wondering if anyone could do me a favor.
I have a Tmobile Samsung vibrant and I'm very used to flashing rome on it. I have mostly been able to within cam recovery because I was sticking with froyo roms and then when I upgraded to CM7 based roms I had to odin back so I became familiar with using odin and from there I have become familiar with also flashing boot loaders using odin for i-9000 based roms.
Basically what I am saying is that I am familiar with the basics of flashing roms.
A friend of mine from work has a VZW fascinate that has the most current OTA update for his phone. He wants me to help him apply a custom rom because he sees the speed advantages.
He is a light to average user so I'm looking for a rom that requires very few fixes. For my vibrant this generally means sticking with 2.2 roms, is this the same for fascinate?
Also since I have never flashed a CDMA phone I was wondering what steps would be different.
Any help would be much appreciated and I may simply just need a little basic information since I am familiar with SGS flashing
try this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1212239 or you can replace the JT VGB with MIUI and the latest Glitch kernel.
Edit: You do not need the nexus driver use this http://www.mediafire.com/?7946i8tdbe0yv50
you flashed rome?
the entire rome?
Generally I woupld say friends don't flash other friends phones. Itopens up a world of conflict and turns you into their tech support guy rather than their friend. And god forbid something bad happens "because you flashed my phone and now it's broken".
Work with your friend and help him but he needs to learn and do the process himself. That way here is no blame and you aren't an unpaid tech support guy.
And if he's a light user, I wouldn't even introduce aosp roms. Pwgb is probably fine for him and will look more familiar.
yea I would recomend the pw ed05 rom w/ voodoo or the pw eh09 rom w/voodoo. Both are very reliable roms.
i bought a samsung galaxy s2 just day before yesterday and i'm already in love! however, i'm having a hard time completely wrapping my head around the way this part of XDA works. i used to have an sl i9003, things were...simpler there. just a few doubts:
i see different custom roms using different stock roms as base (of course), but in the installation guides, none of them instruct you to flash the base rom first. for example, VillainROM 3.0 has KI3 as base, but it doesn't mention in the installation guide that i should have KI3 first (just put the zip in the sd card and flash in CWM). is having KI3 something i should know instinctively or can i just flash these exactly according to the instructions (i have JPKH1, which android 2.3.3, by the way)?
ditto for mods, themes, etc. except there, people often don't even mention what rom they were made for. so does that mean they'll work with any rom?
and finally, i was looking at cyanogenmod yesterday (i'll wait for the next stable release; until then, looking forward to flashing VillainROM) and one really helpful person told me that it would only work with the old bootloader. for my own convenience, how can i see what bootloader a rom has?
don't think of me as a noob, btw. like i said, i used to do all this stuff on the i9003 all the time. it's just that S2 devs seem to operate on a different wavelength
1. Once you are rooted, just go ahead and install the rom through cwm. It will take care of it's own base.
2. Rom's have different base's and some are deodexed and some not, so check before applying themes/tweaks as they will not all work on your chosen rom.
3. I don't think your friend knows a lot about CM. Just flash through cwm and make sure you are using a cm recommended kernel.
thanks! really appreciate it
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