Well, guys and girls, the Mini Pro "mimmi" has got a fully working dualtouch driver now. Has anyone fiddled with their minis in a similar way to know if real dualtouch is on its way?
I'm afraid it's not on the way nor will it ever be. Unfortunately the hardware just doesn't support it, unlike the mini pro.
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JaX3RiR said:
I'm afraid it's not on the way nor will it ever be. Unfortunately the hardware just doesn't support it, unlike the mini pro.
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i thought the x10 mini SUPPORTS DT but not MT(unlike the pro one)
Yeap, it should support DT, but we cannot get it the way the pro did. We need the hopefuly-to-be-released-soon kernel
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Well, it can't take too long now, can it?
*Dreams about DT on Mini*
No real DT on the mini... Because of the hardware, as same as the big X10 !
The mini can just have a fake DT...
so never can we play games with two fingers? like nova
sorry for my bad english
*EDIT* Ignore post, I was led to believe the Mini had a DT capable touchscreen *EDIT*
Plancton.fr said:
No real DT on the mini... Because of the hardware, as same as the big X10 !
The mini can just have a fake DT...
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The hardware AND digitizer both supports it.
The hardware supports DT, but the drivers don't. Mini pro has a MT compatible screen, we can just get DT at most, just like the x8. Anyway, the kernel has to be replaced.
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loger8 said:
The hardware supports DT, but the drivers don't. Mini pro has a MT compatible screen, we can just get DT at most, just like the x8. Anyway, the kernel has to be replaced.
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Exactly. Mini has a Clearpad 2000 which supports DT at max, but that's enough for ALL games as three fingers is too much on such a small screen. I trust our extremely good developers, as I know they will have this fixed soon.
Don' t worry guys, our awesome kernel is on the way
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loger8 said:
The hardware supports DT, but the drivers don't. Mini pro has a MTk compatible screen, we can just get DT at most, just like the x8. Anyway, the kernel has to be replaced.
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I thought the x8 only supported one touch point.
Anyway, if it requires the kernel to be cracked then that's going to take a while.
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DustArma said:
I thought the x8 only supported one touch point.
Anyway, if it requires the kernel to be cracked then that's going to take a while.
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it never needed the kernel being cracked. It can all be done with unloading the kernel driver and load the new driver as a module. its the exact same thing as if you would change the kernel.
The problem is the digitizer. And it will always be.
slade87 said:
The problem is the digitizer. And it will always be.
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The digitizer in Mini supports DT as it is a Synaptics Clearpad 2000. The 2000 is part of Series 2, which is basically the same as Clearpad 2100. Both of which supports Dualtouch, but nothing more. Still, Dualtouch is enough for our small screens.
http://www.synaptics.com/solutions/products/clearpad
Theshawty said:
The digitizer in Mini supports DT as it is a Synaptics Clearpad 2000. The 2000 is part of Series 2, which is basically the same as Clearpad 2100. Both of which supports Dualtouch, but nothing more. Still, Dualtouch is enough for our small screens.
http://www.synaptics.com/solutions/products/clearpad
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X10 Mini's from 2011 January+ Have a Big chance to have Cypress digitizer
But i dont know if this can receive Real Dual Touch like the Pro
See the Atached file, is a Full Dmesg from Kueh9, his x8 have a Cypress Digitizer.
Sorry for bad english.
Haaley said:
X10 Mini's from 2011 January+ Have a Big chance to have Cypress digitizer
But i dont know if this can receive Real Dual Touch like the Pro
See the Atached file, is a Full Dmesg from Kueh9, his x8 have a Cypress Digitizer.
Sorry for bad english.
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Ok, well my Mini is from 2010, and I know for a fact it's got a Cynaptics Clearpad 2000.
Nobody sees this, at step 14? It's Synaptics T1021A !
And nobody sees this? T1021A is ClearPad 1000 !
And nobody also sees this? ClearPad 1000 is Single-Touch !
I highly believe X8 also this digitizer. And guys, stop dreaming about DT/MT with custom kernels!
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Nobody sees this, at step 14? It's Synaptics T1021A !
And nobody sees this? T1021A is ClearPad 1000 !
And nobody also sees this? ClearPad 1000 is Single-Touch !
I highly believe X8 also this digitizer. And guys, stop dreaming about DT/MT with custom kernels!
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I still think that is wrong. I need more proof to change my mind
Well then trust what you think. I don't care, because I don't have x10 mini
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I was wondering if also x10 mini/pro will get multitouch trough an update
Or multitouch is just for x10?
ste71m said:
I was wondering if also x10 mini/pro will get multitouch trough an update
Or multitouch is just for x10?
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According to SE, all the X10 series will get it. Also X8 will get it.
nobodyAtall said:
According to SE, all the X10 series will get it. Also X8 will get it.
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wow are yu serious?.?when is de update comin?
should be coming v.soon 'Q1 of 2011'
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should be coming v.soon 'Q1 of 2011'
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wow awesome man ... m so badly waiting for it can yu tell me where de sony publishd?i mean de website?
Here it is
Thanks for the link
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According to SE, all the X10 series will get it. Also X8 will get it.
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Cant wait..hehe..
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According to SE, all the X10 series will get it. Also X8 will get it.
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well, yes, but it will just be two finger multitouch.... if the bootloader gets cracked, it would be cool to get real 10 finger multitouch
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loger8 said:
well, yes, but it will just be two finger multitouch.... if the bootloader gets cracked, it would be cool to get real 10 finger multitouch
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dude m happy tat we are atleast gettin tat!
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dude m happy tat we are atleast gettin tat!
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Exactly!, its a real achievement from SE that they have listened to the public and done something about it
I wish we could find out if they have plans to update to 2.2 as well!
Just knowing that would be a relief
Great news, looking forward to this.
Yet I fear that Sony did not release the multitouch.
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Here it is
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Sorry for being a skeptic but where did SE mention in that report the E10 or U10 will get multi touch? I see lots about the X10 but nowhere does it mention anything at all about the mini/pro let alone the X8 getting multi touch at any point.. however as a positive point we know the mini/pro digitizer does actually support multi touch (its the same hardware as used in the Microsoft Kin 2 which has pinch to zoom etc) so in theory it should be easy.. thats not to say SE will do it and I don't think there are enough DEV's interested in the mini range to hack it themselves.. but lets wait until the new range of phones comes out (the mini replacement looks amazing with a 1ghz processor and the X8 screen..) perhaps we will see multi touch but not until then I'm afraid..
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well, yes, but it will just be two finger multitouch.... if the bootloader gets cracked, it would be cool to get real 10 finger multitouch
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One word: EPIC! xD
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Damn it SE <-<
The X10 Mini/Pro will not receive Pinch-Zoom as this handset is designed to have single touch.
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back to square 1 waiting for the hero which will save us from the evil singletouch drivers
Man, the stupid thing is that our devices are (if im not wrong) capable of MT >,<
mini up to 2 fingers
mini pro up to 10 fingers !!!!
however SE made an contract with apple so we wont get multitouch,
at least not officialy
hi guys, right now I'm using a HD2 w/Android on it ... And the battery sucks and I get no audio notification while charging, so I decided to change to either the Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 or the HTC Google Nexus One... I'm on T-mobile T-Zones/Web2go
Why Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10i?
Can I get Gingerbread on the XPERIA X10i?
I'd get the nexus one actually.. There is no multitouch on the x10 and the only updates past 2.1 are custom roms...
The nexus one will stay current with updates and will have full functionality instead of a locked bootloader that hinders the phone like the x10..
X10 has multitouch/dualtouch...
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Flo95 said:
X10 has multitouch/dualtouch...
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Dualtouch yes, multitouch no... hence why i wrote no multitouch
And the dual touch is pretty buggy.
dual touch on mine works fine.. no problems at all... X10 looks nice, and UI is better looking than std Android..
In the end it comes down to looks vs raw power
any more info
im_iceman said:
dual touch on mine works fine.. no problems at all... X10 looks nice, and UI is better looking than std Android..
In the end it comes down to looks vs raw power
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Do a dual touch test and try crossing axis... It's the same for everyone.
What do u recommend if need ATT 3g?
fiscidtox said:
I'd get the nexus one actually.. There is no multitouch on the x10 and the only updates past 2.1 are custom roms...
The nexus one will stay current with updates and will have full functionality instead of a locked bootloader that hinders the phone like the x10..
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Thanks for the info
fiscidtox said:
Dualtouch yes, multitouch no... hence why i wrote no multitouch
And the dual touch is pretty buggy.
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Doesn't N1 also have Dualtouch only?
N1 if you want to flash your device regularly
X10 for a beautiful device with stable software
Yes I'm aware of the cross axis ' issue' never caused me a problem though
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So Nexus One, is the move!
The x10 doesn't cost that much and the xda devs are making it upgradeable
the nexus one will have the latest android software available. whereas the x10 will be stuck on the older version of android
Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 or the HTC Google Nexus One... I'm on T-mobile T-Zones/Web2go
hi, ive saw some news about a new xperia line.
The xperia mini pro and mini.
you can see a vid here:
http://dailymobile.se/2011/05/05/review-new-sony-ericsson-xperia-mini-and-mini-pro/
the main diferences in x10 mini / pro and the xperia mini / pro is the CPU (1Ghz) and they come with android 2.3.
since they are very similar in others aspects... meybe some one can try to port the rom?
The new phones are using another hardware plattform and have more in common with arc, neo and even the x10 is closer related then the classic mini series.
They do have different arm generations, different camera sensors, different display resolution etc.
Porting their firmware to the classic minis is not easier then porting any other phones firmware
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drdownload said:
The new phones are using another hardware plattform and have more in common with arc, neo and even the x10 is closer related then the classic mini series.
They do have different arm generations, different camera sensors, different display resolution etc.
Porting their firmware to the classic minis is not easier then porting any other phones firmware
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Yes but maybe we can do something, let's hope they have at least something in common ...
Anyway, our mini's/mini pro's rulz
they are build for ARMv7
i should say don't port it
that would be something like putting an 24 inch tire on a 22 inch bicycle rim
Hey owain but what is with the launcher? The 4 corner would be great!
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lilpac1987 said:
Hey owain but what is with the launcher? The 4 corner would be great!
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Yeah i would like to use that launcher either. It seems to be pretty good
Surely that is much work..but i'd like to help! Maybe you could tell me how to decompile and recompile an .xml file..or does this have nothing to do with the app? (don't really know, but i'm willing to learn something, that i can help you guys a bit )
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Yeah i would like to use that launcher either. It seems to be pretty good
Surely that is much work..but i'd like to help! Maybe you could tell me how to decompile and recompile an .xml file..or does this have nothing to do with the app? (don't really know, but i'm willing to learn something, that i can help you guys a bit )
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Wait for a system dump and then we will see about launcher
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The only thing I miss from stock rom is that interface =)
acceleratum said:
The only thing I miss from stock rom is that interface =)
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That ugly thing ? lol XD
D4rKn3sSyS said:
That ugly thing ? lol XD
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+1
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I wonder whether its bootloader is unlocked....
ruifung said:
I wonder whether its bootloader is unlocked....
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It's bypassed. Not unlocked.
ServerBoost100 said:
It's bypassed. Not unlocked.
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he meant the new mini/mini pro phones... i think they unlocked it....
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he meant the new mini/mini pro phones... i think they unlocked it....
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Oh. -.-
I assume they same fastboot unlock option as the other new phones
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drdownload said:
I assume they same fastboot unlock option as the other new phones
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Me too. But what about us 1st gen minis/mini pros can we unlock with fastboot?
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Me too. But what about us 1st gen minis/mini pros can we unlock with fastboot?
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No we can't...
Plancton.fr said:
No we can't...
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Damn it!!!
If Its Unlocked, I'll sell my X10MP and get a XMP (hey it looks nicer, atleast the keyboard has 4 arrows ) that is, as soon as I can XD
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Very beautiful...
Hey, the new Mini have Multi-touch? LoL
as the title says......can we port ROMs of other QVGA ANDROID devices to our minis???...like HTC WILDFIRE ROMs??!!!....i have absolutely no idea bout dis, and any lead will be awesome because i was checking the wildfire forum and saw they have some nice ROMs which can even look good on our x10 mini/mini pro...sorry if i am reposting, i searched our forum, but did not find a topic dealing with the same issue
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as the title says......can we port ROMs of other QVGA ANDROID devices to our minis???...like HTC WILDFIRE ROMs??!!!....i have absolutely no idea bout dis, and any lead will be awesome because i was checking the wildfire forum and saw they have some nice ROMs which can even look good on our x10 mini/mini pro...sorry if i am reposting, i searched our forum, but did not find a topic dealing with the same issue
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I have no actual idea, but I think you have just to change the LCD Destiny to 120 (in built.prop) and then resize everything with apktool or apkmanager, in order to make everything look good.
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i don't think so,,that this can be done,,,, because of incompatibility of gsm networks,, go to youtube and search this [[" x10 Mini Pro Custom Rom xWildfirePro 2.1 "]]. and also read comments
try port from htc wildfire, htc click, lg optimus me, lg gt 500\540
paul-xxx said:
try port from htc wildfire, htc click, lg optimus me, lg gt 500\540
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Paul is right, those phones are most close to ours and most used for porting ROM.
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amendment. amendment. not LG GT500. try port from Galaxy Spica (I5700) or ^^^^
http://goo.gl/ZhyQq - all support devices. (600 MHz)
http://goo.gl/zCBZg - all support devices. (800 MHz)
but in general you can use HDPI firmware. The quality of graphics will be worse.
Whose gona port them then...paulxxx haha no I was using your mini pro rom I thin it was cm7 pro7x, I know you stopped work onit loved it tho..the 1 app I dont like on nearly all roms is the camera ,that has a grey frame making lcd tiny, and anyone kno are the u20i's capable of zoom feature,nt seen 1 yet!
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Whose gona port them then...paulxxx haha no I was using your mini pro rom I thin it was cm7 pro7x, I know you stopped work onit loved it tho..the 1 app I dont like on nearly all roms is the camera ,that has a grey frame making lcd tiny, and anyone kno are the u20i's capable of zoom feature,nt seen 1 yet!
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Yeah, I have fallen in love with paul's ROMs too!
And... Zoom feature is just impossible to our phones. Due to hardware limitations. I cant imagine the camera zooming out of my battery cover! xD
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Zoom is not the hardware, this software
can we port nexus one FW???
so we can get ride of SE and enjoy the stock google look
i try it but it don't want to work for me^^
flex96 cpu arch. mismatch
i played around with a wildfire ROM and got it ported (well, almost ) ....i think i will get a successful port with a few more tries!!!!...in the mean tym, i screwed mah cell 4 tymz today (a record for me )..everytym da flashtool saved me
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Zoom is not the hardware, this software
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Are you sure??????????? :O
When focusing, camera zooms a little bit, I don't think it can zoom more. Even if it is software related, again I believe it won't work...
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leajian said:
Are you sure??????????? :O
When focusing, camera zooms a little bit, I don't think it can zoom more. Even if it is software related, again I believe it won't work...
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no man, zoomin is hardware, software zooming has a lot of pixelpeeping, sonot really a good idea....it would be better if you zoom in and crop for getting a bigger pic
use camera zoom pro
I missed something?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=HnJIIEng9xo
today I accidentally watched on youtube this, that x8 got real dualtouch... it works with some module in kernel or what.. and I already know that are old news..but... how is possible that x8 has real DT and x10 not?? ..can someone make something similar like this?? What's the matter? Can developer AnDyX help us?
uuuhmm....isnt the x8 newer than the x10?!^^
Different digitizers...
sorry but how hasnt x10 got real dualtouch?
I use dualtouch on mine so hows it any different?
:/ confused lol
danielk0302 said:
sorry but how hasnt x10 got real dualtouch?
I use dualtouch on mine so hows it any different?
:/ confused lol
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It's buggy as hell, try crossing axis....
It sucks for games, typing, etc...
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It's buggy as hell, try crossing axis....
It sucks for games, typing, etc...
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yeah agreed, so does real dualtouch fix this, and if so is there a way of getting it for x10 or is it defo hardware restrictive?
Thanks
danielk0302 said:
yeah agreed, so does real dualtouch fix this, and if so is there a way of getting it for x10 or is it defo hardware restrictive?
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Yeah real dualtouch wouldn't have these issues.
As for hardware vs software, no one knows for sure.
I can't see it getting resolved
right...
hope its possible