I am a new X10a user and I have read with some dismay the posts about broken USB connectors. I have searched the threads and found many, many posts about the problem, but I haven't been able to answer two questions:
1) How prevalent is the "broken USB" problem? What percentage of devices can
be expected to fail?
2) Are there any steps I can take as a user to prevent/postpone a USB connector problem?
Thanks in advance,
gwalborn
my advice is don't play with your phone while it is charging, and pull the cord straight out, not out on an angle...
That is where these issues seem to stem from
I agree I mean I've had this phone for just over a year touch wood my usb is still in tact
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Between broken soldering in the phones port and malforming of the terminal end on the cable I'd say it's the most common hardware problem for the X10 followed by faulty boards. My cable got messed up when my dog tripped over it while my phone was charging causing my phone to be ripped off the table and fly halfway across the room and deforming the terminal end in the phone. I had to buy a new cable which actually is ~3x better than the stock one anyways. I would say that it's not a chronic problem but one that is preventable but I would also say it seems like everyone with these issues ends up on XDA!
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CMoney87 said:
Between broken soldering in the phones port and malforming of the terminal end on the cable I'd say it's the most common hardware problem for the X10 followed by faulty boards. My cable got messed up when my dog tripped over it while my phone was charging causing my phone to be ripped off the table and fly halfway across the room and deforming the terminal end in the phone. I had to buy a new cable which actually is ~3x better than the stock one anyways. I would say that it's not a chronic problem but one that is preventable but I would also say it seems like everyone with these issues ends up on XDA!
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What cable did you get and where did you get it from if you dont mind me asking? I need to get a new one too. Im currently using thr one I got from my wildfire. Thanks
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Crop the "anchors" which hold the usb connector onto the phone! This way you don't have to use that much force to plug it in-out each time, minimizing the risk of breaking something!
Have done this with all 4 cables i am using!!
Its the cable for me. Have to wiggle it alot. My friends car charger and dare charger work perfect
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What cable did you get and where did you get it from if you dont mind me asking? I need to get a new one too. Im currently using thr one I got from my wildfire. Thanks
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I'm fond of the Belkin retractable cables. I can get them in the checkout aisle at my local Micro Center for less than $5. I keep one in the car for the USB port in it, and at the desktops. Nothing to clip off either, and you can put it in your pocket without any fuss. Works fine with the wall charger-there's nothing to wrap up.
btw: 2 X10's here, neither with a broken USB after 9 months.
I got a gold plated GigaWare cable from Radio Shack for $30 USD. Transfer/charging speeds are so much better than stock which is why I didn't even bother with the warranty for the crap stock one.
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I got a gold plated GigaWare cable from Radio Shack for $30 USD. Transfer/charging speeds are so much better than stock which is why I didn't even bother with the warranty for the crap stock one.
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It's not my business how you spend your money, but:
The salesman and store are very happy for your business. The markup on items like this is incredible, something on the order of 300% or more. I've read of 850%. I hope it had a thick rubber coating and the internal cable was electrically shielded with wrapped wire and had a ferrite choke for that money too, never know how much emi radiation is around.
Please tell me technically how much faster a few microns of gold on plated tips on a cable conducts digital signals than a tin or aluminum or copper one over the distance of 2 or 3 feet? Does it oxidize less? maybe, but you won't keep it for 10 or 20 years. This is not to say that there are not cheap wires that don't conduct well, but I don't think the SE OEM one is one of those. How much faster does it charge when connected to the wall socket? USB ports don't count since they often don't push the full 5v at the right milliamp.
If your SD card writes at 9-10mbps and with the SD cache fix reads at 25mbps (that's what my class 10 Lexar card does) and USB 2.0 is rated at 480mbps isn't a cable "rated" 480 overkill?
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The salesman and store are very happy for your business. The markup on items like this is incredible, something on the order of 300% or more. I've read of 850%. I hope it had a thick rubber coating and the internal cable was electrically shielded with wrapped wire and had a ferrite choke for that money too, never know how much emi radiation is around.
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The markup wouldn't surprise me but since Im not in the cable wholesale business and couldnt charge my phone buying a 6' gold plated, shielded, heavily rubber coated cable that I guarantee you transfers data and charges my phone WAY faster was well worth my money.
$30 was also a rounded figure after tax.
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I guarantee you transfers data and charges my phone WAY faster was well worth my money.
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Please. Since you appear to have a defective or internally torn oem cable, please borrow any one of your friend's cables and make a speed and charge comparison for us, I will happily eat crow, and stand corrected, and spout the benefits of such a cable even to buying one myself. Tell us how much faster than a $5 cable.
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Please. Since you appear to have a defective or internally torn oem cable, please borrow any one of your friend's cables and make a speed and charge comparison for us, I will happily eat crow, and stand corrected, and spout the benefits of such a cable even to buying one myself. Tell us how much faster than a $5 cable.
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I'm not saying you need to buy one. I needed a new cable. I also needed a longer cable that was more durable and could take the abuse as I have a dog and 2 cats (which if you read my post you would know lead to my cable breaking) and where I charge my phone the cable gets snagged by them all the time. I don't need to do a test to appease you that a higher quality, higher rated cable with superior materials and build quality functions better than the mass manufactured stock POS. Your cable may work fine for you, that's great. Mine was broken and I needed a new and better one and I got one.
I was asked what kind of cable I got so I shared. I assure you it is better. I am not saying that the difference is enough for you to go out and buy one if your's is fine. That is up to you.
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I don't need to do a test to appease you that a higher quality, higher rated cable with superior materials and build quality functions better than the mass manufactured stock POS. Your cable may work fine for you, that's great. Mine was broken and I needed a new and better one and I got one.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=13551815#post13551815
I was bored, I ran some tests on my own cables and two of my cards, including using the USB card reader that came with one of the cards. While my belkin is slightly slower (not even 10%) than the SE OEM cable, the results are such that they may be within the margin of error, since sometimes, the Belkin was faster than the SE OEM. But I don't have a gold plated cable to test.
SO, on the basis of this, I concede and stand corrected, that your cable might be 10% faster than ones that I have, but $5 vs $30, I would rather have the $25 in my pocket but I sincerely doubt that it would be equal to the speed of the card outside the phone. (SD Tools app is not an accurate test and since we're talking about speed for transfers not internal speed anyway.)
As for the animal issue, I have birds. You don't know destruction like a bird can do, and cables are favorite chew toys, they bite right through, even heavy shielded cables. lol
I used to have a virtual zoo in my house. I have had all kinds of birds from parakeets to cockatiels as well as other animals like mice and hamsters (now thats destruction!), turtles, lizards and frogs.
The cable I have is the best one for me and my circumstances. Had there been a comparable option for less money readily available to me on the day I needed it I would have gladly spent less money. Since there was no other available choice and it offers everything I needed (the performance boost was really just a plus for me!) I am perfectly content with it and do not necessarily feel like it wasn't worth the money beyond the general feeling that all electronics equipment is overpriced.
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Since there was no other available choice and it offers everything I needed (the performance boost was really just a plus for me!)
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http://crystalmark.info/software/CrystalDiskMark/index-e.html
I added a Sony class 4 card to the comparison. C'mon, put up a wired and unwired test, please, I think it would be interesting.
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http://crystalmark.info/software/CrystalDiskMark/index-e.html
I added a Sony class 4 card to the comparison. C'mon, put up a wired and unwired test, please, I think it would be interesting.
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It actually does seem like a good idea. My dad actually also has an X10 with nearly the same setup as mine and identical class 10 card and he has a stock cable so maybe I'll do a comparison later. The bigger difference is gonna be in charging times as the transfer is likely more limited by card than cable. Maybe when I have a chance I'll do a timed transfer test and then discharge the phones to similar levels and do a charge comparison. I cant do it now but if I can convince him and Ive got time I'll do it tomorrow.
Maybe I'll start a thread where we can do comparisons of the different cables. I'll send you a PM when Ive got a chance to do it and you can add your comparison of Belkin to stock and I'll do the Gigaware to stock. Since we have different computer setups they wont be directly comparable but we can get an idea by both comparing to stock. I'll PM you with details but my idea is to do a timed transfer of the same file with both cables and do a similar charge test. Time differentials will probably give us a better idea of the real difference than any software testing since we likely have totally different systems. If anyone else has other cable brands they could add to our results and we would have a comparison of all of them. If you wanna start your tests I'll try and do mine tomorrow and we'll start a thread in general. I'll PM you and we can post at the same time so we don't get a crapload of comments between our results.
I just looked at your thread. I think we should do a joint post more targeted at the cables though. This actually does seem like fun.
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i have it also, since day one since my device is refurbished
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i have it also, since day one since my device is refurbished
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A FWIW.
Earlier this week, I spoke to AT&T (yeah I know you're on Rogers) regarding my kid's X10a. We were on a short vacation between her college semesters, and I noticed her phone's screen was chipped. She told me the USB was also loose, and it was.
AT&T is replacing her phone, as we have insurance. I got them to drop the $50 chrg since the phone is EOL and only refurb'd.
However, since the phone is less than a year old, they said that the USB problem would come under the regular 1 year warranty, NOT damage issues like water or cracked screens.
Perhaps other carriers have the same policy/interpretation?
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I am not quite sure as to the variation of included accessories from carrier to carrier but this is a question to at least the Tilt 2 owners and anyone else who's Touch Pro 2 came with that handy charger which has on one end a small block housinga flip up wall plug and on the other a female USB connection, this came with an USB to mini USB cable. The reason I ask is that after purchasing mine in February the mini end to the cable has completely come apart. It actually started within weeks of getting the phone. When I saw what was happening I wrapped it with some splice tape thinking it would be fine, but nope. The end fell out the other day and I was shocked to find that the small metal end was seated into the decidedly softer plastic plug in no more than maybe 1/32". How is something that is the junction for a lot of force anytime one moves the phone supposed to last with this kind of construction. AT&T says they warranty everything in the box? Nope. They will give you a wall charger that they retail for $29 as opposed to sending you the cable which retails for $10 less. My suspicion is that they are well aware of the fragile nature of this cable and so would rather you have something less likely to need replacement, at least while one is still under warranty. So I was curious if others have experienced this and if so, what did you do? Is there something to replace it with that is built better? OEM or not, I would love to know. I won't even go into what HTC said, but lets just say they are of a split mind on what to do.
I don't understand when you say that part is under a lot of force. I just don't see this with normal use.
Cords in general are not known for being durable, and prone to failure. But I agree that failure after 3 months is ridiculous. I've had mine since October, and it works fine. I also have the original cable for the old Tilt, which is 2-1/2 years old now, and well as the old charger (cord is not detachable). Admittedly, I probably don't use the newer USB cable as much as others, since I have these old accessories, which are still used with my Tilt2.
It sounds like ATT is willing to give you a new charger (with non-detachable cable), but not a new cable? That does seem odd. If you need a new cord, get one from Amazon or similar, it cost about $3.50 shipped.
http://www.amazon.com/HTC-Cable-Shadow-Diamond-myTouch/dp/B002CZQ2IK/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=wireless&qid=1274720016&sr=8-1
im in the same boat as OP. Althought his seems to have lasted longer, LOL. Mine started to pull away from the usb b type end after the second week of having the device. Lucky for me i had some electrical tape and as soon as i noticed it i wraped it up good. I also have pleanty of usb to usb b cords laying arround seeing as i own a ps3 also. If you have any you can just use them they fit quite well and work fine.
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I don't understand when you say that part is under a lot of force. I just don't see this with normal use.
Cords in general are not known for being durable, and prone to failure. But I agree that failure after 3 months is ridiculous. I've had mine since October, and it works fine. I also have the original cable for the old Tilt, which is 2-1/2 years old now, and well as the old charger (cord is not detachable). Admittedly, I probably don't use the newer USB cable as much as others, since I have these old accessories, which are still used with my Tilt2.
It sounds like ATT is willing to give you a new charger (with non-detachable cable), but not a new cable? That does seem odd. If you need a new cord, get one from Amazon or similar, it cost about $3.50 shipped.
http://www.amazon.com/HTC-Cable-Shadow-Diamond-myTouch/dp/B002CZQ2IK/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=wireless&qid=1274720016&sr=8-1
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What I mean by force is imagine that point where the mini usb meets the phone as a lever point. So when the phone moves at all, you go to pick it up you bump it,what have you, that is where all of the stress forces will be at play. Considering that point is just a tiny piece of metal and plastic that is only inset about 1/32" what can you expect. The new versions have been redesigned, si I am sure they know. I am also pretty sure this is why neither HTC nor AT&T will carry them in their warranty department. In fact, AT& T doesn't deal with Tilt 2's at all at their service centers. Funny that HTC passed Apple in sales this quarter but might have forgotten Apples hard learned lesson that they received when it was realized that the iPod's battery could not be replaced. The Phones are great, the accessories they by from someone else ordinarily so they are hit and miss
And yeah 1 L0v3 my HtC, I just learned that any mini USB will do. I thought that the ends were proprietary and so the would be hard to find but the different shape fits afterall which is what I am using now.
I have never used mine. I've used my old Motorola charger from day one.
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What I mean by force is imagine that point where the mini usb meets the phone as a lever point. So when the phone moves at all, you go to pick it up you bump it,what have you, that is where all of the stress forces will be at play.
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Yep, that's what I figured you meant. Just doesn't seem like much force to me at all. Sure, cables have a stress point right at the plug, and that is where almost all cables go bad eventually. But if your device is just sitting there, plugged in, I don't see how much stress is being applied to it, even if you bump it.
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Yep, that's what I figured you meant. Just doesn't seem like much force to me at all. Sure, cables have a stress point right at the plug, and that is where almost all cables go bad eventually. But if your device is just sitting there, plugged in, I don't see how much stress is being applied to it, even if you bump it.
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I empathize with the OP. I have thrown away a number of older cables due to short circuits at that junction. It no so bad, unless it shorts out during a flash... :eek At any rate, I now wiggle them before initiating a flash. I also bought new cables with the HTC connector and no longer use mini usb.
I have a number of 'antique' cables and chargers from my 6800 days and a number of newer ones. All are working just fine.
Unfortunately, my cat chewed off my 40-pin usb charging cable and I'm going nuts atm... so has anyone found anywhere that might sell a cable like this? I looked pretty much all the online places and they're none existence, perhaps if i take it to local phone shops, will they be able to solder it up?
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Unfortunately, my cat chewed off my 40-pin usb charging cable and I'm going nuts atm... so has anyone found anywhere that might sell a cable like this? I looked pretty much all the online places and they're none existence, perhaps if i take it to local phone shops, will they be able to solder it up?
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To be honest i do not think they sell those separately yet
My first guess is to call Asus directly, and tell them what happened and they might send you a new one or let you buy one over the phone if you feel comfortable doing that
Or even contact them on Facebook they actually monitor that very well
As for the cable splice, i am not sure of any phone shops that would do that, at least in my area, maybe a electronics repair shop would be better, probably charge you an arm and a leg though
If i had bought a dock with my transformer, i would send you my extra cable
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If i had bought a dock with my transformer, i would send you my extra cable
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No extra cable with the dock...unless I got shorted one.
So I spent over an hour talking on the phone with them this morning, apparently, they don't even have a part number for the cable, I even had to convince them that this doesn't sell in the local shops first. Now they're saying there'll be a "special" team which will contact me within 24 hours to solve the problem. Sigh...I knew asus support sucks and was hoping the product to last long without needing support but...
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So I spent over an hour talking on the phone with them this morning, apparently, they don't even have a part number for the cable, I even had to convince them that this doesn't sell in the local shops first. Now they're saying there'll be a "special" team which will contact me within 24 hours to solve the problem. Sigh...I knew asus support sucks and was hoping the product to last long without needing support but...
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Asus were brilliant for us when my Mum had a problem with her Eee PC a couple of years back - screen failed, got a brand new one within a week. Couldn't argue at all!
It does seem vary by product, hopefully they'll contact me soon.
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So I spent over an hour talking on the phone with them this morning, apparently, they don't even have a part number for the cable, I even had to convince them that this doesn't sell in the local shops first. Now they're saying there'll be a "special" team which will contact me within 24 hours to solve the problem. Sigh...I knew asus support sucks and was hoping the product to last long without needing support but...
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Don't tell them your cat chewed it. You're better off saying it's defective and the store won't take it back and demand a replacement. When they get yours back they'll charge you for the cat-chewed cable and everyones happy.
Telling them it was your fault will not get anything done quickly, because they don't have to give you a new one. Try it the other way around and at least you can get a working cable and they'll charge the money it would have cost to sell it to you.
Hope it all works out.
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No extra cable with the dock...unless I got shorted one.
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My bad, i thought the dock came with a cable because that would be the most obvious thing to include , guess i was wrong lol
I called again later and on the third time was able to get a RMA for it, sent it to the service center right afterwards so hopefully I can get a phone call sometimes next week about the payment. But from what they said, it seems like they don't have these things on stock for replacement, kinda sucks since I'll be out of country in a week and half.
I've never repaired a cable before, so I haven't a clue what I'm talking about, but if the wires inside of the cable are color coded, I bet with a pair of wire strippers and a little solder and electrical tape, you might be able to do the job yourself.
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I've never repaired a cable before, so I haven't a clue what I'm talking about, but if the wires inside of the cable are color coded, I bet with a pair of wire strippers and a little solder and electrical tape, you might be able to do the job yourself.
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I peaked through the opening of the cable, the wires were extremely small where I could not see the inner metal wires within the cables and they seem like un-strippable (so thin that I'm afraid to break it with typical wire stripper), also there're metal wires on the outside wrapping the inner cables which are also damaged. Just gonna give up and let them send me a new one.
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BTW, one of the reps were telling me to go to this website and check if they have the cables in stock http://www.asusparts.eu/index.php
I think this will be the first place to have them if any charging/replacement kits would be available. However, currently there're nothing related to the TF.
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Unfortunately, my cat chewed off my 40-pin usb charging cable and I'm going nuts atm... so has anyone found anywhere that might sell a cable like this? I looked pretty much all the online places and they're none existence, perhaps if i take it to local phone shops, will they be able to solder it up?
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Now bad is it? If the 40 pin end is intact I could fix it.
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I've never repaired a cable before, so I haven't a clue what I'm talking about, but if the wires inside of the cable are color coded, I bet with a pair of wire strippers and a little solder and electrical tape, you might be able to do the job yourself.
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I'm planning to pinout the 40 pin at some point. If I send you postage would you send it to me?
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I wish you replied earlier, I sent it through RMA back to ASUS last friday :S
Unfortunately they are not available yet. But here is a link for the power cord.
http://www.excaliberpc.com/606705/asus-transformer-tf101-ac-adapter.html
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Unfortunately they are not available yet. But here is a link for the power cord.
http://www.excaliberpc.com/606705/asus-transformer-tf101-ac-adapter.html
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I found out that they listed them over last weekend, also sent them an email asking when the cables will be available.
They replied:
transformer is now delayed to mid-June.
Sorry to have to give you the bad news...
But im not sure if they're talking about the tablet or cables, gonna ask them again and see what they reply.
Sorry you are having to cope with the problem. It's got to be very frustrating. I'm waiting for my TF to arrive from Amazon. It will be at least a month from order to delivery, but that's got to be less frustrating than having it in your hands, and not being able to use it.
I'm sure the USB connection for charging uses only 3 or 4 wires, so it might be relatively easy to temporarily wire it, but at best, it would be highly vulnerable to breakage. I think you made the right choice to RMA it back and get a new one.
I have a quick question for anyone that already has a charging cable. Approximately how long is it? I looked at the picture in the link, with it wrapped up, but it doesn't look very long. Anything less than 6' will be less than perfect for me, although I could use a USB extension cable if necessary.
My power adapter died on me today!! I can charge with usb from my PC and now im using an old iphoneac adapter to charge with. It is really slow though, gained 1% in about 10 minutes....
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My power adapter died on me today!! I can charge with usb from my PC and now im using an old iphoneac adapter to charge with. It is really slow though, gained 1% in about 10 minutes....
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Find a universal USB charger for an iPad. It should charge the TF while powered off, or at least with the screen off. It will take longer to charge, of course, but it should do the job.
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like 3g dongle ? internal sd cards? ssd?
removing the battery for 2 HDD 500go?
finding sd cards hubs? usb to sata cables?
? there is a place in the tablet for a 3g dongle?
there are 2 screws under the upper rubbers and the dock open easy
there is a lot of spaces avaible
My MIFI might actually fit in there, all I would need to do is supply it power somehow.
I'm no hardware engineer though, but if thats possible it would save you from the driver issues with a 3g dongle.
I wonder if it would be possible to check which pins from the adapter connect to USB - so we can make DIY USB adapter for those without a dock.
hmm adding an hdd would be very interesting, sata won't be very hard, powersupply will be.
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This is what I was looking for, looking to do some mods to the dock.
Thanks Markolino72.
Internally mount and wire a 32gb memory stick to the USB port so you get a 32gb hard drive added whenever you dock It might even have enough room for a portable USB hub so you don't lose use of the external usb port?
does anybody think it will be easy to make a DIY dock fix for those with battery draining issues like me?
It seems like it would be relatively easy - just make a switch to either connect or disconnect the cords coming from the docking point.
Or even better, maybe if you put the correct microcontroller in there you can have it switch the pins to floating, if it senses that there is no tablet connected (not sure about the details though)...
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does anybody think it will be easy to make a DIY dock fix for those with battery draining issues like me?
It seems like it would be relatively easy - just make a switch to either connect or disconnect the cords coming from the docking point.
Or even better, maybe if you put the correct microcontroller in there you can have it switch the pins to floating, if it senses that there is no tablet connected (not sure about the details though)...
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Have you seen the post in the General forum (2nd page now I think)? Posted by Asus_USA themselves, if you prove the 6 steps that your dock has the issue you can get a new one! I really do hope that I can get mine exchanged, waiting on a reply from my local service center..
Regards.
In regards to the hardware mods, that really looks amazing. Would love to put in my mifi there as well, attach it via USB to charge = your own 3g model Maybe a little modding you could get the mifi to power on only when the dock is connected (remove the battery of the mifi?) so that when it powers on it'll power on the mifi as well. Only a few thoughts.
Maybe a little modding you could get the mifi to power on only when the dock is connected (remove the battery of the mifi?) so that when it powers on it'll power on the mifi as well.
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it's a good thought but the mifi I have (novatel 2200) wont work without the battery, for some reason if the battery is bad or removed you cannot run usb, it must be the way they have the power run through the battery or charging. Not sure if all are like this or not.
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Have you seen the post in the General forum (2nd page now I think)? Posted by Asus_USA themselves, if you prove the 6 steps that your dock has the issue you can get a new one! I really do hope that I can get mine exchanged, waiting on a reply from my local service center..
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I talked to the Asus service rep about it. They currently won't give you a new one since they have a hardware upgrade to fix it. If you wanted a new one you needed to do before they solved the problem. I'm waiting on the upgrade part to be delivered for for mine. Should in a few days.
A switch should theoretically work. The guy at the service center said the replace something that goes into the hinge of the dock. Looking at the teardown pics, you can see a wire goes into each side of the hinge, so I think they replace the wires and maybe make a new connection somewhere on the dock.
Surprising how much wasted space there seems to be in the dock -- it's nowhere near as tightly packaged as the tablet itself. Looks like Asus can optimize the size or fit some more features in future versions, if they want...
Let me see if I am thinking correctly...Your saying using something like mifi installed via USB wires (will it be always on?) then connect via WiFi on your transformer? So basically your putting the mifi in a case that can never be opened without a screwdriver? I guess one would always have access for your other devices as well as long as the TF is in the vicinity.
P.S. I think I think this is a good idea, not decided though. I like to think of it in a real world application.
there is another post with a guy putting in an SSD, but it bulges at the keyboard. A 32g SD card would be nice.
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I talked to the Asus service rep about it. They currently won't give you a new one since they have a hardware upgrade to fix it. If you wanted a new one you needed to do before they solved the problem. I'm waiting on the upgrade part to be delivered for for mine. Should in a few days.
A switch should theoretically work. The guy at the service center said the replace something that goes into the hinge of the dock. Looking at the teardown pics, you can see a wire goes into each side of the hinge, so I think they replace the wires and maybe make a new connection somewhere on the dock.
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You are getting the replacement part? bought mine on the US, but live in chile... would really like to somehow get the part that needs to be replaced and do it myself
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You are getting the replacement part? bought mine on the US, but live in chile... would really like to somehow get the part that needs to be replaced and do it myself
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There's very little chance they'll give anybody the part, and nothing in the previous person's post suggested they're doing so for him.
Talk to Asus Chile and get it serviced by them:
http://www.asuschile.cl/
http://latin.asus.com/Static_WebPage/Service_center_chile/
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There's very little chance they'll give anybody the part, and nothing in the previous person's post suggested they're doing so for him.
Talk to Asus Chile and get it serviced by them:
http://www.asuschile.cl/
http://latin.asus.com/Static_WebPage/Service_center_chile/
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Well I ended up calling them. I would have to ship the dock to "someone" in the US, have them ship it to the repair center, fix it, ship it back and then ask that "someone" to ship it back to me... sooo, I'm basically screwed... I ended up with a nice 150US paperweight (not even considering the horrible light bleed on the transformer).
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Well I ended up calling them. I would have to ship the dock to "someone" in the US, have them ship it to the repair center, fix it, ship it back and then ask that "someone" to ship it back to me... sooo, I'm basically screwed... I ended up with a nice 150US paperweight (not even considering the horrible light bleed on the transformer).
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Yeah, actually, I hadn't realized that but it does say it clearly on the product warranty page:
"Brazil and South American countries don’t support global service"
http://support.asus.com/warranty.aspx?SLanguage=en&p=20&s=16&m=Eee Pad Transformer TF101
took mine apart also and there is quite a bit of room.
i plan on putting a 128gb usb flash drive inside the dock and soldering onto the usb connections once i get all the bits in.
Any bigger pictures? Are the screws under the rubber feet?
just two screws under the rubber feet near the hinge then it just pulls apart from the top
had to take mine apart as the spring/clip mechanism for the sd card wouldnt lock the card in.
now the card is stuck in with no nails haha a simple fix.
This is good news. I hacked a Crystal HD decoder card (pcie), USB wifi dongle, a logitech nano receiver, and a 4 port micro usb hub (from a touch screen setup) into a Dell mini 9 and there was absolutely no room compared to this.
They even have covers for the USB ports, so if you remove a header and solder wires up you just have to hot glue / epoxy that cover from the back and you are money. Looks clean and stock.
I have an old 64 GB thumbdrive that might find a new home. Maybe a 1.8" usb HDD would fit in there with the battery, without the battery who knows.
hi. i just got word motorola fubar'ed photon users by flipping the connections so it can't be used with lapdock. well, hopefully i'm here to save the day. i'm copying and pasting my post from atrix forums.
---I was curious if anybody was interested in buying these cables. Both cables would have the corresponding female micro input and the other side would be the corresponding micro male. The reason i ask is if you have a lapdock you are future proofed because motorola likes to make specific accessories for different model phones and likes to charge an excessive premium for these accessories. With these cables you , hopefully, should be able to use lapdock and future lapdocks, if motorola is good on their word, plus you can have your atrix next to your lapdock and be able to use it still. I am thinking maybe used like this you wont need a bluetooth mouse either because you can use screen for the mouse input which is loads better than the touchpad. Micro female cables seem to be hard to come by looking online. I am awaiting an answer from my source to see if these can be had. The minimum order is 1000 of them. I would probably sell these for about $20 shipped in the US if my price is right. Both cables btw. I hope this in right section. Figured it would get the appropiate looks here because it is unique and it is a question. Please post if youre intersted or pm me. If my source comes up good, and there is enough interest i will post back. And yes there would be discount for multiple orders. Dont ask how much. I dont even know how much yet.
Btw, i am getting a lapdock tomorrow to test drive. I am going to measure approximate length needed for this to be useable on right side. I am guessing in the neighborhood of 18-24"/45-60cm. It will be longer than needed if accessorized on the left side of lapdock. I mention this because there will be no custom lengths, colors or whatever. I dont even have any. ----
i also want to add. again. i don't have these cables yet. i'm not 100% sure they'll work. they should. they're just going to have females inputs from an international standard with hdmi/usb. so i don't know what problems there might be. this is just to see if there is interest. i have quotes now btw. if i go through with the purchase, i will probably sell for $15 for one of each and $20 for 2 pair. and notice i said probably. i haven't got shipping quote yet but i don't think it will be outrageous or anything. i'd like to sell these the $20 route btw. quick and easy. if more than 2 are wanted i will have to wait till i get the shipping quote because the cable already cost more $5. if i bought 1000 of each they'd cost me about a buck each but you can thank motorola and atnt for ruining such a great idea and concept and less than 1000 lapdocks being sold to date. haha.
Count me in!
If they work count me in. Hell I'll buy two sets just to sweeten the deal.
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they'd be very useful cables to have around in any case
i'm in
Anybody else? Need about 6 more people.
I voided my warranty.
Count me in.
TS
Consideratemi in TS
I haven't ordered yet. Only 6 people interested so far. C'mon people. I know you need some female cables anyways. These can be as extensions from portable batteries or that extra length you need to sit back in your lazy boy instead of the couch.
I voided my warranty.
im game for 2...so 20.00
ok. so now we're up to 7. i'll probably pm interested people tomorrow or tuesday. i thought more people would be interested right away. btw, the lapdock is really nifty. amazon sold out of the $199.99 deal real quick but if it comes back i highly recommend jumping on it. i got 7.5 hours of use on one charge yesterday brightness one notch above halfway and playing ff5 on snes emulator about 4 hours. i'm using it with brightness turned all the way down today.
Test a prototype and if it works we'll talk business. You can count me as a maybe.
for teh DIY'ers
http://www.citrusmicro.com/Manhattan-307406-Hi-Speed-USB-2-0-Extension-Cable-p/307406.htm
take teh male end of this cable and cut it off, splice it with a regular usb micro cable and there you have it, a super long micro extenstion cable
google says price for that cable is 5 bucks. so its worth a shot. ive not tried this with any other cables so i dont know if it will work in the first place or if this cable will work, but im sure everyone here has a few microusb cables around, and for 5 bucks on this cable then it turns out to be a cheap way to use older accessories
reason why i said you have to chop it up tho is its using usb micro with the edges/corners. ive looked all over trying to find something myself and that is one of teh cheapest microusb females i could find.
Hey does anyone as of yet know if the Atrix Laptop Dock is working with the Photon, with the cable discussed here. I would be willing to help out... I make two way radio cables in my business, some out of ethernet cables... I am too looking for a laptop dock that will work with the photon
Photon works with the lapdock. The cables were for a smoother solution. I emailed monoprice about cables. They emailed me back. I suggest more people email them to show interest in the cables.
I voided my warranty and your mum.
count me in too!
I like the idea of connected in and still seeing the phone. i could always velcro it to the back of the screen.
lroy said:
count me in too!
I like the idea of connected in and still seeing the phone. i could always velcro it to the back of the screen.
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Email monoprice. The deal I was trying to get with a chinese manufacturer fell through.
I voided my warranty and your mum.
I'm in too.
me likey one too please
Is the offer still going on. If so please count me in also. Just PM with info
Thanks ahead of time
If there was a way to make this into a bar that could fit at the bottom and maybe snug up to the right side so that the photon could be placed upright in the dock and secured in the laptop dock?
Already dead. Wont charge the Prime. I called them, that was a real treat - I was on the line for 35 minutes as he researched the "issue" and we worked out the details I have 2 Prime's in the family, tested them back and fourth and 1 is dead - cable is fine, the little black power supply box is toast.
Now I get the joy of sending it back, on my dime For a product of this size, and this value, is it worth it for them to spend 35 minutes on the phone, me send it back, them check it, send me one back... for a $5 piece. Jeeezz just send me one already as it is going to cost $100 in man power to deal with the stupid thing. And the hoops i had to go through to try to prove this power supply was tied to my on record Prime, it was a joke. Total Joke and now we will be out of the power supply for maybe 10 days or more & she is leaving town in a few days. Plus, you get the joy of them sending you an RMA email that is like 3 pages long and looks like it was formatted by a 5th grader. Ugh.
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Already dead. Wont charge the Prime. I called them, that was a real treat - I was on the line for 35 minutes as he researched the "issue" and we worked out the details I have 2 Prime's in the family, tested them back and fourth and 1 is dead - cable is fine, the little black power supply box is toast.
Now I get the joy of sending it back, on my dime For a product of this size, and this value, is it worth it for them to spend 35 minutes on the phone, me send it back, them check it, send me one back... for a $5 piece. Jeeezz just send me one already as it is going to cost $100 in man power to deal with the stupid thing. And the hoops i had to go through to try to prove this power supply was tied to my on record Prime, it was a joke. Total Joke and now we will be out of the power supply for maybe 10 days or more & she is leaving town in a few days. Plus, you get the joy of them sending you an RMA email that is like 3 pages long and looks like it was formatted by a 5th grader. Ugh.
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This is the first post where someone is complaining that I actually felt like you had a real complaint against the company. That is outrageous. You have more patience than I do. I would have just bought a new one and said screw it. Sorry for your troubles, though. Do you like your Prime otherwise? Mine will be here Monday and am hoping I have no issues.
EDIT: I say only post. That's an exaggeration. This is one of very few posts that I've read where I actually feel sorry for you. Too many on here are just whiners. Granted, this is just a vent post, but I think it's rather warranted in my opinion.
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Already dead. Wont charge the Prime. I called them, that was a real treat - I was on the line for 35 minutes as he researched the "issue" and we worked out the details I have 2 Prime's in the family, tested them back and fourth and 1 is dead - cable is fine, the little black power supply box is toast.
Now I get the joy of sending it back, on my dime For a product of this size, and this value, is it worth it for them to spend 35 minutes on the phone, me send it back, them check it, send me one back... for a $5 piece. Jeeezz just send me one already as it is going to cost $100 in man power to deal with the stupid thing. And the hoops i had to go through to try to prove this power supply was tied to my on record Prime, it was a joke. Total Joke and now we will be out of the power supply for maybe 10 days or more & she is leaving town in a few days. Plus, you get the joy of them sending you an RMA email that is like 3 pages long and looks like it was formatted by a 5th grader. Ugh.
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My first transformer had a bad power adapter, I had to go purchase another one from staples. This one that came with the prime is exact same thing, except the removing prongs aren't foldable and the cable is longer. Also my previous adapter chipped in an area...it's pretty fragile.
Dang, that sux. Better take off overclock and put it in Power/battery savings mode
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Already dead. Wont charge the Prime. I called them, that was a real treat - I was on the line for 35 minutes as he researched the "issue" and we worked out the details I have 2 Prime's in the family, tested them back and fourth and 1 is dead - cable is fine, the little black power supply box is toast.
Now I get the joy of sending it back, on my dime For a product of this size, and this value, is it worth it for them to spend 35 minutes on the phone, me send it back, them check it, send me one back... for a $5 piece. Jeeezz just send me one already as it is going to cost $100 in man power to deal with the stupid thing. And the hoops i had to go through to try to prove this power supply was tied to my on record Prime, it was a joke. Total Joke and now we will be out of the power supply for maybe 10 days or more & she is leaving town in a few days. Plus, you get the joy of them sending you an RMA email that is like 3 pages long and looks like it was formatted by a 5th grader. Ugh.
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Since it's a usb plug adapter, can you use another usb plug from another device? I know I can switch plugs between my HTC, Sony Ericsson, and Motorola phones with the same usb plug adapter.
That does suck. Have you tried the freezer trick? Put it in a ziploc then put it in the freezer for like 15 minutes.
My charger "died" within like a week, but the freezer trick fixed it and its been going fine since then. After being in the freezer the thin plastic piece that has the actual prongs in it was displaced a few mm from the larger plastic piece, so I just pushed it back into place and it worked.
Worth a shot before sending it in if you haven't already
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That does suck. Have you tried the freezer trick? Put it in a ziploc then put it in the freezer for like 15 minutes.
My charger "died" within like a week, but the freezer trick fixed it and its been going fine since then. After being in the freezer the thin plastic piece that has the actual prongs in it was displaced a few mm from the larger plastic piece, so I just pushed it back into place and it worked.
Worth a shot before sending it in if you haven't already
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Oh yeah, +1 for this. I've heard this works because of the temp lock on the charger. Sometimes it gets stuck and won't let it charge anymore. Good find. Someone give this man a thanks because I'm all out because of all of the ICS goodness going on in the Rezound forums lol
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Since it's a usb plug adapter, can you use another usb plug from another device? I know I can switch plugs between my HTC, Sony Ericsson, and Motorola phones with the same usb plug adapter.
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IIRC the prime has some abnormal voltage requirements so your mileage may vary there.
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IIRC the prime has some abnormal voltage requirements so your mileage may vary there.
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I don't think another adapter works. The transformer use to be able to charge via usb on the computer, but it took about 24 hours to fully charge from a computer usb port. The prime doesn't seem to charge at all, when I plug it in, it doesn't say "charging".
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Since it's a usb plug adapter, can you use another usb plug from another device? I know I can switch plugs between my HTC, Sony Ericsson, and Motorola phones with the same usb plug adapter.
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Nope... I tried one from an iPod, a Griffin, and a generic one. None would work. They do specifically mention in their manual only use "their" charger.. I dont care about stuff like that but turns out, the 3 I tried would not work
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That does suck. Have you tried the freezer trick? Put it in a ziploc then put it in the freezer for like 15 minutes.
My charger "died" within like a week, but the freezer trick fixed it and its been going fine since then. After being in the freezer the thin plastic piece that has the actual prongs in it was displaced a few mm from the larger plastic piece, so I just pushed it back into place and it worked.
Worth a shot before sending it in if you haven't already
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Gonna pass and here is why.. surely in that power supply is a motherboard or solder and if you freeze it and then heat it (as powers runs through) you can create fine hair cracks in the solder. So, it seems totally illogical to me.
Interesting, So which type or cable and power adapter should we buy for the prime if needed? we cannot use some "generic" kind?
I would just go ham on the tech support and make them send me one for free.
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I hammered the **** out of them about it just because they took so damn long for such a petty thing & how cheap the piece is and absurd amount of time and effort it will take, they weren't having it.
They and I all have bigger fish to fry, but I was just so annoyed by the interaction and amount of effort I now have to expend.
Awe man that sucks. What you need to do its call and act super crazy. Like change up your accent in between sentences, talk loud and then really soft. Yell at them and then pretend to cry and apologize for yelling. That usually makes em feel really bad and sorry for me and then they are like ok, we will make an exception.
Make sure you talking to high level support though, lower level ppl have no authority. Ask then what level they are and ask to be escalated. Be really nice to them too.
This actually works btw. Have gotten a hp laptop battery replaced after it was out of warranty, a early phone upgrade for my friend on att, and also a free slingbox dvr from dish.
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Awe man that sucks. What you need to do its call and act super crazy. Like change up your accent in between sentences, talk loud and then really soft. Yell at them and then pretend to cry and apologize for yelling. That usually makes em feel really bad and sorry for me and then they are like ok, we will make an exception.
Make sure you talking to high level support though, lower level ppl have no authority. Ask then what level they are and ask to be escalated. Be really nice to them too.
This actually works btw. Have gotten a hp laptop battery replaced after it was out of warranty, a early phone upgrade for my friend on att, and also a free slingbox dvr from dish.
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BWaaa ha ha LOL this is the trick I plan to use the next time I have to attend Jury Duty
I think the reason the others won't work is a lot of those smaller chargers for phones and things are 5 volt and the prime wants a 12 or 15 volt or something. At least I thought that's what the prime charger had listed in it's specs.
I suppose if radio shack had a generic wall usb charger listed higher it should work. The Prime/TF101 chargers are like $30...
Why do you have to pay for shipping?
There is something I don't understand here. Why do you have to pay to ship the unit to Asus if you didn't break it? I'd understand you'd have to pay to get it back if they discover that it broke because of you but why do you have to pay to get a warranty repair?
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Gonna pass and here is why.. surely in that power supply is a motherboard or solder and if you freeze it and then heat it (as powers runs through) you can create fine hair cracks in the solder. So, it seems totally illogical to me.
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Are you worried about a catastrophic failure if your hypothetical situation occurs? Also considering it "freezing" is a bit off since you can't freeze a solid, you are simply cooling it.
Considering there are plenty of electronics that work outside in the winter without problems to their soldering as far as I am aware, I would think cooling your adapter shouldn't be a huge risk.
My USB Charger died as well... In fact It worked only 1 time !
I received my TF201 Wednesday (jan 18th) and the usb charger worked like a charm the first time. I played with the TF201 until the battery was at 1% and I plugged it on the charger then... nothing (no orange lights and no charging icons on the screen). I submit a RMA for this (and for the light bleeds, I'm so lucky).
Now I have to charge my TF201 with regular usb charger but It only charges the TF201 if it is turned off and it takes FOREVER to charge (after 12h of charging = 72%).
I wonder if it would charge faster if I plug on my computer (I got usb3 ports)...