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hi
i would just like to know that as you can run webtop on a moniter or a tv. is it possible to run it off motorola atrix`s own screen.so could you have full ubuntu running of atrix own screen.plz could someone let me know
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at this moment in time. No. but never doubt the devs.
imo i wouldn't even want it on a screen so small. it would be frustrating to use. this is why we have android. again. just my opinion. whatever floats your boat i guess.
I am wondering what functions or configurations you are wanting or expecting in a new Rom.
3.2 honeycomb.....
just kidding, but seriously I'm sure we all have a long list of wishes.
Most of which will never happen.
true, I know we all wish for much newer roms, myself included.
tenorntex said:
I am wondering what functions or configurations you are wanting or expecting in a new Rom.
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Something new other than just kernel, all available rom are having only kernel.
If only kernel is to be there for rom then one shift only release kernel
Sorry if any1 hurted , didn't ment to but that's true
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I wrote it some days ago (was it yesterday?)...apart from my dream of a fully working gingerbread or honeycomb (that would be heaven^^) ROM, I think a fully working MIUI ROM / MIUI like Android overlay would be a good thing! I really miss the functions and the good looking menues...
EDIT: Ah, I miss the DSP Manager, too. I don´t dare to install it on my device...
From my perspective, I'm happy with Froyo as it is on the Streak. I wouldn't mind having a Gingerbread ROM, but I don't like the direction that the UI is taking within Honeycomb and really, darker themes use more battery on LCD screens (like the Streak) and less battery on AMOLED.
I just got my Streak back from a near-death experience after accidentally flashing the wrong package and totally destroying my ability to enter recovery in any way, so maybe I'm feeling even more grateful to have Froyo than I might otherwise!
MIUI, nuff said
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just full GB would do for me just for the global EQ ability
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I want dell to "git" their act together.....
Streak ROM dreams
1. ability to use the streak as a bluetooth input/output device on pc/ps3/htpc/etc as a keyboard, mousepad (maybe even airmouse using g sensors), game controller, microphone, speaker, camera, barcode scanner, gps dongle, etc etc. basically allow you to use streaks abilities and features thru bluetooth. I know theres apps doing some of this but to have this kind of bluetooth functions integrated into a ROM without having to mess around would be awesome.
2. a virtual windows machine emulator so I can run SOMETHING in windows on it. OK, this is really really far fetched but hey
Actually all I really want here is to play online poker on the streak and sites like pokerstars, 888poker, partypoker don't have android clients. Fulltilt poker HAD Rush Poker on android but Fulltilt is gone now.
So I love CM7, and was using it until recently when I loaded stock back onto it (it's just not a complete phone without the fingerprint scanner/webtop.)
I put on ADW which is the stock dock for CM7. However it's restricted me to 5 screens (boo).
Is there anything else I can do to get that Cyanogen feel without actually loading on Cyanogen again and losing those aforementioned features?
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So I love CM7, and was using it until recently when I loaded stock back onto it (it's just not a complete phone without the fingerprint scanner/webtop.)
I put on ADW which is the stock dock for CM7. However it's restricted me to 5 screens (boo).
Is there anything else I can do to get that Cyanogen feel without actually loading on Cyanogen again and losing those aforementioned features?
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ADW Ex allows you to change the number of screens?
also, the Alien skin is pretty AOSP looking. compared to some of the others at least, it reminds me of Androidian that comes with CM7.
Thanks, although I was hoping not to spend any cash since as soon as CM7 gets those features I'm dumping this for that ROM.
I was also looking for other apps that could mimic some of the functionality, or am I out of luck on that?
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Thanks, although I was hoping not to spend any cash since as soon as CM7 gets those features I'm dumping this for that ROM.
I was also looking for other apps that could mimic some of the functionality, or am I out of luck on that?
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well, CM7 got the fingerprint scanner updated in a test build last night. if that's not enough to bring you over, then i'm guessing you'll not see CM7 again for a long time.
check it out: http://rootzwiki.com/topic/9370-rootz-wiki-exclusive-fingerprint-cm7-preview-for-the-atrix/
Sorry, I'll wait until they get webtop working, because right now I can hook into any HDMI TV/monitor and make my friends with iPhones feel like ****.
Scary Guy said:
Sorry, I'll wait until they get webtop working, because right now I can hook into any HDMI TV/monitor and make my friends with iPhones feel like ****.
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this made me LOL
Hi, didn't want to clutter the "bad news" thread nontechnical noob questions. If the tablet won't boot from SD
1) Will it still possibly be rootable where I could side load apps? I could live with the stock ROM if I could sideload apks, maybe.
2) Am I right to assume even if it is rootable where I can add apps, it is much more likely that I could brick it somehow?
Dang, just really crappy timing. I actually bought gift cards to get it (so I could get some cash-back deals). I can't return the cards. I guess if this thing isn't worth it, I can use them to get a refurb color.
Very surprised and disappointed they went this route (if they really did).
Damn
Same here, I could live with side-loading. But I think it's a bit early to write off bootable SD. Hopefully it's here relatively soon as I'd like to leave the stock experience in place for family members.
As an aside, I've got the original Nook Color (rooted of course), as well as the Transformer. Even without the benefit of ICS, I found that I still resorted to grabbing the NC for my bedtime reading (Google Reader and articles in RIL, rather than actual books). 7" is perfect, 10" a bit unwieldy for me.
I picked up the NT today and am very happy I did. It's a nail in the coffin for the Transformer, gonna sell it as the NT will meet all my needs. I'm saying this based on the stock experience with the expectation that we'll have ROMs at some point.
But soon enough we'll have a) root and b) ICS on the NT. It's gonna be sweet!
Well, correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm yet to see an Android device that XDA geniouses couldn't root.
Including the crazy-ass encrypted Craporola devices.
Rooting might be doable, but if the bootloader is encrypted, then installing a custom ROM like CM7 might be out of the question.
Case and point: look at how much agony the owner of the Motorola Milestone (the GSM version of the Droid) went through. Far as i know, they just got the official Froyo ROM within last few month, and most likely won't get GB, ever.
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Well, correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm yet to see an Android device that XDA geniouses couldn't root.
Including the crazy-ass encrypted Craporola devices.
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Yeah i figured as much but wasn't sure if there was something out there I wasn't aware of. I'm using an Atrix. Despite Motorola's best efforts, the community eventually got into this thing.
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Rooting might be doable, but if the bootloader is encrypted, then installing a custom ROM like CM7 might be out of the question.
Case and point: look at how much agony the owner of the Motorola Milestone (the GSM version of the Droid) went through. Far as i know, they just got the official Froyo ROM within last few month, and most likely won't get GB, ever.
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That would suck but I think I could live with it. I just noticed that some of the nook apps are the tablet version rather than the phone versions. Evernote and Netflix, for example. Root and sideloading would probably suffice, although B&N would lose some goodwill.
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I could honestly care less about custom roms or anything like that. I'm fine with the NT stock experience.
But sideloading would be a very very good thing, just so I can get the few apps I'd like to use onto the thing. I'm only gonna use it to consume media- but I'd like to decide which apps I use to do that.
Rooting will get most users far, but compare to a full blown CM7 rom, there still many short coming with just root.
Example:
1. Tablet soft buttons, the CM7 tablet soft key are vital in making a lot of side loaded application work in NC.
2. Custom keyboard. one of my favorite app on NC is the thumb keyboard, which make typing on the NC in landscape orientation feel natural. With Root, the user can install the keyboard, but won't be able to enable the keyboard, since B&N remove some of the menus settings.
3. Honeycomb and ICS, with the source code for ICS just came out, CM9 is on the horizon, without unlocking the bootloader, NT won't get a taste of either.
So Root is a great start, but for many android hackers and purist, it is not enough.
1. Tablet soft buttons, the CM7 tablet soft key are vital in making a lot of side loaded application work in NC.
I have button savior on my manually rooted NC. Works fine. Am I missing something?
2. Custom keyboard. one of my favorite app on NC is the thumb keyboard, which make typing on the NC in landscape orientation feel natural. With Root, the user can install the keyboard, but won't be able to enable the keyboard, since B&N remove some of the menus settings.
I got the Palm input keyboard working on my rooted NC. Worked great. I forget what I swapped it out for, but it wasn't a problem - you just have to tell the device that your preferred keyboard just happens to be named the same as its preferred keyboard and lives in the same place.
3. Honeycomb and ICS, with the source code for ICS just came out, CM9 is on the horizon, without unlocking the bootloader, NT won't get a taste of either.
This may be for the best.
I'm looking at Honeycomb now on a 10 incher, and I'm not as happy with what I'm seeing as I'd hoped. ADB is more challenging, and putting files on the device via mass storage device is right out, which means a lot of my tools for managing content on it are gone, too - manually copy over stuff that Calibre used to just take care of? Bleargh.
Honeycomb pretty much requires your real, fast computer talk to your honeycomb device, aka a ****ty slow computer, over a serial link as if it were a peer, rather than just being able to get the storage and write files to it.
And if you use linux, your good, fast computer can't even talk to the ****ty, slow one that google's deliivered because they didn't bothered to warn anyone about this far enough ahead of time for the linux folks to really get working on trying to port over that stupid set of media player commands. Who knew that anyone would all of a sudden decide they were going to pronounce a brain-dead media player communications interface as workable?
Once you unplug and being passively consuming your pr0n again, the tablet's all good and pretty.
http://soledadpenades.com/2011/06/12/honeycomb-mtp-and-linux/
Not to second guess anyone here, but there always OTHER ways of doing things. Witness the Droid X where even with an encrypted bootloader an exploit was found called 2nd Init (http://cvpcs.org/blog/2011-06-14/2nd-init._what_it_is_and_how_it_works) which allowed the Droid X to get custom roms (albeit with the stock kernel) such as CM7 and MIUI.
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Not to second guess anyone here, but there always OTHER ways of doing things. Witness the Droid X where even with an encrypted bootloader an exploit was found called 2nd Init (http://cvpcs.org/blog/2011-06-14/2nd-init._what_it_is_and_how_it_works) which allowed the Droid X to get custom roms (albeit with the stock kernel) such as CM7 and MIUI.
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I truly hope that it won't be such an involved process for us, but still... very cool to read what the genius devs put together as a workaround on other devices. We just need to hope that they jump on the Nook Tablet like they did the NC.
jhanford said:
Not to second guess anyone here, but there always OTHER ways of doing things. Witness the Droid X where even with an encrypted bootloader an exploit was found called 2nd Init (http://cvpcs.org/blog/2011-06-14/2nd-init._what_it_is_and_how_it_works) which allowed the Droid X to get custom roms (albeit with the stock kernel) such as CM7 and MIUI.
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I have a Defy, and it need too 2ndInit to start custom rom like CM7/MIUI.
I hope that NT will be no boot-locked, but if it's the sadly truth I think that port 2ndInit will be not too much hard.
well we already figured out how to side load apps. they dont pop up in NT's GUI, but with 2 buttons you can launch Go Launcher and within there you can see everything you installed.
I would actual prefer to have the stock Rom, just rooted. I had CM 7.1 on my NC but removed it because I actually do use the NC as bookreader and that would the primary use for a NT. I have a TF and soon a TF Prime for the full tablet experience, which IMHO really needs a 10 inch or bigger screen.
I just got one of those 20$ lapdocks from Radioshack and was wondering what are the best ROMs with webtop? Right now I'm using Jokersax' CM9 (but considering switching to epinter's CM10) and just doing HDMI mirroring. I'd prefer to stick with my current ROM if there is some kind of webtop like thing or maybe Ubuntu or Debian that I can install on it. I have an 8GB microSD card and 5 gigs of internal storage left so space is not an issue.
Hi.
You have to install a Gingerbread Blur ROM to have Webtop. Not compatible with any CM.
Only a tablet UI mod (not Ubuntu) with CM10 here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1876790
Personnaly I have Nottachtrix 1.3.1 with WebTopMod, running a full Squeeze up-to-date Debian.
I tested Ubuntop, but the Jaunty Ubuntu is too old and support end since october 2010...
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Hi.
You have to install a Gingerbread Blur ROM to have Webtop. Not compatible with any CM.
Only a tablet UI mod (not Ubuntu) with CM10 here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1876790
Personnaly I have Nottachtrix 1.3.1 with WebTopMod, running a full Squeeze up-to-date Debian.
I tested Ubuntop, but the Jaunty Ubuntu is too old and support end since october 2010...
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This is your Nottachtrix 1.3.1 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1567241
This is the webtopmod you used ? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1093790
Extra question: Does Lapdock used webtop to work? Multimedia dock and lapdock using the same "webtop"? Or multimedia dock and lapdock have different "webtop"?
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Extra question: Does Lapdock used webtop to work? Multimedia dock and lapdock using the same "webtop"? Or multimedia dock and lapdock have different "webtop"?
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Two different things.
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Two different things.
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I see.. Thanks for your reply.
If my Atrix is with ICS/JB. I still can use lapdock features? Just webtop not will work in ICS/JB ROM?
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Yes, you should just have mirroring via HDMI to the display. Resolution might not match the screen and looks a little aliased though. GB based rom have webtop and that match the resolution of the screen and makes it look much better.
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Do you mean i still can use lapdock features after flashed to ICS/JB?
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This is your Nottachtrix 1.3.1 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1567241
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Yep.
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This is the webtopmod you used ? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1093790
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Yep. See my last post on that topic for few mods.
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You should be able to. Just not with the web top. Though I have heard that JB can be a Little wonky with hdmi mirroring.
I've used jokersax CM9 without issue except for that aliasing issue.
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Without the Full version of Firefox? :crying:
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Without the Full version of Firefox? :crying:
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Yes, without full version of Firefox.
Maybe you should go read up on various HDMI output modes.
Whats this about 20 dollar laptop docks?
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Whats this about 20 dollar laptop docks?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1793300
Look around the end of the thread.
jisse44 said:
Hi.
You have to install a Gingerbread Blur ROM to have Webtop. Not compatible with any CM.
Only a tablet UI mod (not Ubuntu) with CM10 here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1876790
Personnaly I have Nottachtrix 1.3.1 with WebTopMod, running a full Squeeze up-to-date Debian.
I tested Ubuntop, but the Jaunty Ubuntu is too old and support end since october 2010...
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So, is there a way to run a full Linux distro without a Blur ROM?
Also, how is your phone's performance on Nottachtrix? What kind of Quadrant scores does it get?
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So, is there a way to run a full Linux distro without a Blur ROM?
Also, how is your phone's performance on Nottachtrix? What kind of Quadrant scores does it get?
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I have 1GHz Faux kernel 026b, so the results are not the best, I prefer longer battery than high performance.
Results are: Total: 2494. CPU: 2748, Mem: 2689, IO: 4605, 2D: 265, 3D: 2162
(Result is 2819 with 1.3GHz Faux kernel)
Kanan875 said:
So, is there a way to run a full Linux distro without a Blur ROM?
Also, how is your phone's performance on Nottachtrix? What kind of Quadrant scores does it get?
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define "full".
There is a "way" to run a full distro, but you'll be VNCing into it, since the terminal doesn't support a graphical output., anyways, it works alright, video is wonky though, so I wouldn't recommend that, but even openoffice works.
http://linuxonandroid.org/
you can also check the thread here at XDA
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1585027
jisse44 said:
Hi.
You have to install a Gingerbread Blur ROM to have Webtop. Not compatible with any CM.
Only a tablet UI mod (not Ubuntu) with CM10 here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1876790
Personnaly I have Nottachtrix 1.3.1 with WebTopMod, running a full Squeeze up-to-date Debian.
I tested Ubuntop, but the Jaunty Ubuntu is too old and support end since october 2010...
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HI, this post is a bit old now so im sure things have changed a bit, im hoping to get my atrix rooted this week(by my cousin) and want the right rom put on it, im a complete noob and all the threads that ive read about with the lapdock, talk about changing things.
In your experience which rom just works, Id like to be able to use maps, camera and video camera aswell as lapdock.
Any advice is appreciated as ive got headache with trying to read up on all this.
cheers
Joe
I see that the last post to this thread (before mine) is dated 3 years ago and the questions in it went unanswered, so I am doubtful that my question(s) will be seen or answered as well, but here goes.
This is my first post to these forums, so keep that in mind if I make any mistakes, or break any rules. I own 3 Motorola Atrix 4G phones in various states of working, plus the Lapdock, which is IMO brilliant and the main reason for me searching out this phone and buying 2 replacement phones after my first Atrix 4G LCD screen stopped working. In fact, I bought the Lapdock to use with my Raspberry Pi first, then decided I wanted the cell phone to use with the Lapdock. I still like the Atrix 4G, even though it replaced my iPhone (3S I think), which I lost (or it was stolen). My question(s) is/are the same as the OP and title of this thread, now that it is Sept. of 2015, what is the best ROM version and what is the latest version of Android I can use on my Atrix 4G, while still being able to use the Lapdock? I don't care if it means using the Webtop application, or a different Linux for ARM/Android desktop, but I don't want to lose any functionality of the stock cell phone. In fact, I want as much functionality as possible, so on occasions when I need to use the phone and lapdock combination as a temporary replacement for a full computer, I can do so, with reasonable limitations. The main functions I need/want in my Atrix 4G cell phone are: calling (obviously), GPS navigation, calendar, contacts, calculator, camera, taking notes for reminders, and searching the web for locations of things I need to buy, or places I need to go occasionally. I prefer Firefox as my web browser of choice, but can do with any good browser, if Firefox is not available with the best ROM & Android version choice for the Atrix 4G & lapdock combination.
I hope that some members here are still using the Atrix 4G, even though it is an old phone now, and they can give me their recommendations. I bought all 3 of my Atrix 4G phones unlocked and have zero experience at modifying or replacing ROM images on cell phones, but I am willing to learn how to do it, after I know what I will be aiming for with some recommendations. I also have almost zero experience with using Linux, but have checked it out a few times over the last 15+/- years.
Thanks in advance for any advice.
David
aka AmigaDave (Amiga = Commodore computer of 80's & 90's, not Spanish girlfriend)
The leak version works for me
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b088yj said:
The leak version works for me
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Thanks for the quick reply b088yj.
Since I am new to all of this, can you give me more info on what the "leak version" is and where I can find it? I don't want to assume I can figure out what you mean by "leak version", and end up with results that don't work, or take a chance of bricking my phone.
Is this "leak version" using the Webtop, or some other desktop GUI for when the phone is plugged into the Lapdock? I have no preference to keeping or replacing the Webtop with something else, so long as it "just works", and provides the same functionality, including all features on the phone working (like the finger print reader, sound, camera, etc.).
Also, what steps are needed to install it (if you can just provide me with some links to where I can find the specific information I need to read, I can figure it out for myself, but listing the specific steps you took to install the "leak version" on your Atrix 4G would be really helpful, plus if there is anything needed before, during, or after you install the "leak version" to make it all just WORK).
For example: To install the "leak version" you need to install X number of things on your Atrix 4G, asdfg + hjkl; + zxcvb in the order listed in the step-by-step instructions below.
Step 1: Backup your existing cell phone system, data and contacts using ???
Step 2: Wipe the system using ???
Step 3: Go here (link) and download file/app/utility/etc. abc.xyz
Step 4: Unzip and run, or install app/utility, or ???, on your cell phone/computer to transfer to your cell phone.
Step 5: Using a shell window, enter the following commands [email protected]#$%^&
Step 6: Repeat Steps 3 through 5 for file/app/utility/etc. 2 and 3, which you can find here (link) and here (link).
Step 7: Get on your knees and pray while rebooting your cell phone to see if it all worked
Like I wrote earlier, I have no idea what I need to do, but do have some common sense and can follow clearly written directions, if the person providing them to me does not assume that I know some part of the process and they leave out something they think is obvious and generally known to all cell phone hackers (which I am not to be considered in any shape, way, or fashion).
Thanks again,
David
aka AmigaDave
Edit: I see from your signature, you are using a LG-E980, does that mean that you no longer use your Atrix 4G?