Hi, didn't want to clutter the "bad news" thread nontechnical noob questions. If the tablet won't boot from SD
1) Will it still possibly be rootable where I could side load apps? I could live with the stock ROM if I could sideload apks, maybe.
2) Am I right to assume even if it is rootable where I can add apps, it is much more likely that I could brick it somehow?
Dang, just really crappy timing. I actually bought gift cards to get it (so I could get some cash-back deals). I can't return the cards. I guess if this thing isn't worth it, I can use them to get a refurb color.
Very surprised and disappointed they went this route (if they really did).
Damn
Same here, I could live with side-loading. But I think it's a bit early to write off bootable SD. Hopefully it's here relatively soon as I'd like to leave the stock experience in place for family members.
As an aside, I've got the original Nook Color (rooted of course), as well as the Transformer. Even without the benefit of ICS, I found that I still resorted to grabbing the NC for my bedtime reading (Google Reader and articles in RIL, rather than actual books). 7" is perfect, 10" a bit unwieldy for me.
I picked up the NT today and am very happy I did. It's a nail in the coffin for the Transformer, gonna sell it as the NT will meet all my needs. I'm saying this based on the stock experience with the expectation that we'll have ROMs at some point.
But soon enough we'll have a) root and b) ICS on the NT. It's gonna be sweet!
Well, correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm yet to see an Android device that XDA geniouses couldn't root.
Including the crazy-ass encrypted Craporola devices.
Rooting might be doable, but if the bootloader is encrypted, then installing a custom ROM like CM7 might be out of the question.
Case and point: look at how much agony the owner of the Motorola Milestone (the GSM version of the Droid) went through. Far as i know, they just got the official Froyo ROM within last few month, and most likely won't get GB, ever.
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Well, correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm yet to see an Android device that XDA geniouses couldn't root.
Including the crazy-ass encrypted Craporola devices.
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Yeah i figured as much but wasn't sure if there was something out there I wasn't aware of. I'm using an Atrix. Despite Motorola's best efforts, the community eventually got into this thing.
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Rooting might be doable, but if the bootloader is encrypted, then installing a custom ROM like CM7 might be out of the question.
Case and point: look at how much agony the owner of the Motorola Milestone (the GSM version of the Droid) went through. Far as i know, they just got the official Froyo ROM within last few month, and most likely won't get GB, ever.
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That would suck but I think I could live with it. I just noticed that some of the nook apps are the tablet version rather than the phone versions. Evernote and Netflix, for example. Root and sideloading would probably suffice, although B&N would lose some goodwill.
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I could honestly care less about custom roms or anything like that. I'm fine with the NT stock experience.
But sideloading would be a very very good thing, just so I can get the few apps I'd like to use onto the thing. I'm only gonna use it to consume media- but I'd like to decide which apps I use to do that.
Rooting will get most users far, but compare to a full blown CM7 rom, there still many short coming with just root.
Example:
1. Tablet soft buttons, the CM7 tablet soft key are vital in making a lot of side loaded application work in NC.
2. Custom keyboard. one of my favorite app on NC is the thumb keyboard, which make typing on the NC in landscape orientation feel natural. With Root, the user can install the keyboard, but won't be able to enable the keyboard, since B&N remove some of the menus settings.
3. Honeycomb and ICS, with the source code for ICS just came out, CM9 is on the horizon, without unlocking the bootloader, NT won't get a taste of either.
So Root is a great start, but for many android hackers and purist, it is not enough.
1. Tablet soft buttons, the CM7 tablet soft key are vital in making a lot of side loaded application work in NC.
I have button savior on my manually rooted NC. Works fine. Am I missing something?
2. Custom keyboard. one of my favorite app on NC is the thumb keyboard, which make typing on the NC in landscape orientation feel natural. With Root, the user can install the keyboard, but won't be able to enable the keyboard, since B&N remove some of the menus settings.
I got the Palm input keyboard working on my rooted NC. Worked great. I forget what I swapped it out for, but it wasn't a problem - you just have to tell the device that your preferred keyboard just happens to be named the same as its preferred keyboard and lives in the same place.
3. Honeycomb and ICS, with the source code for ICS just came out, CM9 is on the horizon, without unlocking the bootloader, NT won't get a taste of either.
This may be for the best.
I'm looking at Honeycomb now on a 10 incher, and I'm not as happy with what I'm seeing as I'd hoped. ADB is more challenging, and putting files on the device via mass storage device is right out, which means a lot of my tools for managing content on it are gone, too - manually copy over stuff that Calibre used to just take care of? Bleargh.
Honeycomb pretty much requires your real, fast computer talk to your honeycomb device, aka a ****ty slow computer, over a serial link as if it were a peer, rather than just being able to get the storage and write files to it.
And if you use linux, your good, fast computer can't even talk to the ****ty, slow one that google's deliivered because they didn't bothered to warn anyone about this far enough ahead of time for the linux folks to really get working on trying to port over that stupid set of media player commands. Who knew that anyone would all of a sudden decide they were going to pronounce a brain-dead media player communications interface as workable?
Once you unplug and being passively consuming your pr0n again, the tablet's all good and pretty.
http://soledadpenades.com/2011/06/12/honeycomb-mtp-and-linux/
Not to second guess anyone here, but there always OTHER ways of doing things. Witness the Droid X where even with an encrypted bootloader an exploit was found called 2nd Init (http://cvpcs.org/blog/2011-06-14/2nd-init._what_it_is_and_how_it_works) which allowed the Droid X to get custom roms (albeit with the stock kernel) such as CM7 and MIUI.
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Not to second guess anyone here, but there always OTHER ways of doing things. Witness the Droid X where even with an encrypted bootloader an exploit was found called 2nd Init (http://cvpcs.org/blog/2011-06-14/2nd-init._what_it_is_and_how_it_works) which allowed the Droid X to get custom roms (albeit with the stock kernel) such as CM7 and MIUI.
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I truly hope that it won't be such an involved process for us, but still... very cool to read what the genius devs put together as a workaround on other devices. We just need to hope that they jump on the Nook Tablet like they did the NC.
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Not to second guess anyone here, but there always OTHER ways of doing things. Witness the Droid X where even with an encrypted bootloader an exploit was found called 2nd Init (http://cvpcs.org/blog/2011-06-14/2nd-init._what_it_is_and_how_it_works) which allowed the Droid X to get custom roms (albeit with the stock kernel) such as CM7 and MIUI.
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I have a Defy, and it need too 2ndInit to start custom rom like CM7/MIUI.
I hope that NT will be no boot-locked, but if it's the sadly truth I think that port 2ndInit will be not too much hard.
well we already figured out how to side load apps. they dont pop up in NT's GUI, but with 2 buttons you can launch Go Launcher and within there you can see everything you installed.
I would actual prefer to have the stock Rom, just rooted. I had CM 7.1 on my NC but removed it because I actually do use the NC as bookreader and that would the primary use for a NT. I have a TF and soon a TF Prime for the full tablet experience, which IMHO really needs a 10 inch or bigger screen.
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I think I'm going to wait awhile on mine. I'm beginning to see others having certain issues that a n00by like me would probably not enjoy All & all I'm happy with my rooted 1.40 Nook. I may just wait for the SD card version of CM7 to play with it. I sure do admire these guys that know how to work with this code and develop OS systems Sure wish I knew how to do this stuff.
I'm perfectly content with the way I currently have my NT set up. Rooted, OTA-blocked, using an alternate launcher, and having a shortcut to the default launcher if I want to read something or browse the Nook Store.
Now if CM9 becomes available on the NT, I might have to give that a shot.
I think some of the main features that a custom ROM such as CM7 can provide are bluetooth and multi-touch (which isn't available yet but currently under development). I'm not sure that's available for a rooted stock ROM. I saw some video of someone using a PS3 controller to play emulated games on their Nook Color so I can imagine that would be a great freature to add on.
I'm going to wait until they do further testing with CM7, at least until they get to a beta stage but I think it's the way to go for me.
I'm just waiting for a sure way to access the nook library. I have some magazine subscriptions that I don't wanna give up.
One of the main reasons I got the Nook Tab is because I saw that people were working on getting CM7/9 going on it. I had a $250 gift card from work to B&N, so it was a winning situation for me. I doubt I would have bought it if CM7 hadn't been on the horizon. I've actually never used it stock, I had it rooted and all B&N stuff stripped off within hours of buying it.
I definitely recommend flashing CM7 unless you are completely married to the stock B&N Stuff, then wait for the SD install method. Flashing CM7 is easier than most of the steps required to root, side load, fix unreadable menu's, etc, all the dumb crap I had to d to make this thing usable.
Almost everything is available in the market. No sideloading, no finding apps with your browser and tricking the market, almost everything works. All my important apps and favorite games have worked with no issues.
Menu's are all standardized, everything is readable, all options are open, just fantastic having all those little pieces working in every app with no fuss or hacks.
Rebooting is so much faster, not sure if it was all the apps I had or what but my reboots took forever with my stock rooted, now are 3 times quicker.
The thing just feels snappier, not sure if it is a placebo effect or not, but definitely feels faster.
Overall it feels like a tablet instead of a hacked e-reader. There may be some bugs that surface and a few things are being looking to, but so far so good
CM7 was the reason why I'm going to get a NOOK... well and the books lol
I installed the B & N app from the market and everything works great. I have been able to use my existing account to purchase books i have been able to move books over onto the Sd card in .epub format and read them. Make sure to fix permissions andcormate cache anddevlick cache if you are updating from first CM7 alpha.
Yeah i love cm7
I was nervouse when i first did it but it turned out all right in the end. Now ive got CWM and titaniumbsckup functionality and i can flash any rom or anything. Not only is cm7 a great new version of the OS but it opens the door to all the other roms that you could ever want to install. Only complaint is that the HD youtube videos lag, but the devs know about it and are fixing it. Id highly recommend it. Hope you take the plunge!
-Silente
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the only thing that worries me is that I have 1 week left to decide if i want to buy the 2 year warranty. what would happen if i need to send in for repairs if it has cm7?
Lined up all the tools I might need if disaster were to strike. Stuck the zip onto an SD card & went for it. I'm not looking back. Warranty? I won't be needing no stinkin' warranty.
The Lord has indeed Blessed me this day!
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the only thing that worries me is that I have 1 week left to decide if i want to buy the 2 year warranty. what would happen if i need to send in for repairs if it has cm7?
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That would be a big VOID if they could tell. If it won't boot up not much chance of that
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That would be a big VOID if they could tell. If it won't boot up not much chance of that
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I installed CM7 and messed around with it for a day or so. It worked great - with the exception of streaming video. Where HULU and Vulkano (slingbox-like DVR that works with my Directv) were smooth as silk with rooted NT on CWM, the CM7 vers. video would briefly "hang/stutter" from time to time - a bit annoying. Others have reported this same issue, and I know that the Devs are working on this.
Also, I lost all of my B&N stuff - not a huge loss - but think I may wait for the SD card version which, if I understand correctly, will allow me to hang on to that.
That said, I reverted back to the stock 1.4.0 using the "magiccard" method, and then re-rooted with Albert's SD card method (vers 4.50). So, assuming the unit keeps working (will boot,) does anyone know if there is a way for B&N to tell that a unit has ever been on CM7/rooted? I thought the magiccard method basically wiped the partitions and put the stock rom back on.
Thanks! Bob
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I think I'm going to wait awhile on mine. I'm beginning to see others having certain issues that a n00by like me would probably not enjoy All & all I'm happy with my rooted 1.40 Nook. I may just wait for the SD card version of CM7 to play with it. I sure do admire these guys that know how to work with this code and develop OS systems Sure wish I knew how to do this stuff.
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I purchased my nook tab specifically to tinker with and have no investment in BnN ecosystem. So far I've have some really frustrating problems that took a week or two of research and tinkering to work out. It has been a great learning experience. I now know a little about the inner workings of the Android OS and have a functional tablet to play with while the wife watches Netflix. Getting CM 7 working gave me a real sense of accomplishment. Before getting the tab for xmas I only had experience rooting my Droid 3 (one click method at that), So I am a real n00b too. I just went into this wanting to tackle my own problems. My advice, if you like what you've got, don't fix what ain't broke. - yes I am a hillbilly thankyaverymuch!
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I'll try it out if/when an SD bootable version comes out. I read and buy a lot of graphic novels and comic collections that are only viewable via the built-in reader.
For awhile I was just following on the developments and waiting till a stable version was released of CM7 because I was able to do what was needed with stock + root. The other day I decided to do some catching up in the NT scene and figured the CM7 Alpha12 looked pretty stable, so I gave it a shot. I am really glad that I did this, the NT just runs so much better than it did using the stock firmware + root. I am loving CM7 Alpha12 so far. If you were skeptical about installing CM7 due to it's Alpha status and possible bugs, as long as you haven't invested a ton of money into the B&N Store or stream a lot of video content. I think you should give it a shot because TEAM-B has been doing a great job.
Changed my mind and glad I did! !!! Loving CM7
I think I am going to wait for the SD version.
I think after a stable method to root/ block/ flash comes out that us non-devs can execute with consistent success I will try CM7. I am rooted - Thanks Indirect! - but I also had problems with the last time I tried CM7. At this point it's just not worth the extra work to try and fix a borked NT. Having said that, Veronica's ROM here:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1512373 is pretty awesome looking and I can't wait to try it out.
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I'm terrifically sorry - I've committed the noob crime of failing to search....and posting (inadvertently) in a thread that was already dead. I found the answer to my question. Sorry for the nuisance.
- Computerslayer
I returned my nook back in January, but it seems that things habe actually progressed here, despite the locked bootloader. My mother wants a tablet now, and we're talking about something...cost effective.
What has been accomplished here with this device? Do you still need to make manual hardware modifications in order to make this thing useful?
Duely blundered from my thunderdolt
Admittedly, a lot will depend on your own technical prowess, but I grabbed one of these this weekend (after debating the purchase for a couple of weeks).
About an hour after I got home (it took a bit for me to find the relevant links), I had CWM on an SD card, booted it, installed CM7 to the internal memory, and have everything happy and shiny.
I, personally, haven't had any problems, but YMMV.
With that in mind, it is also possible to install & run CM7 from a SD card, without changing anything.
(All this is based on the 16G model, I can not speak for the 8G.)
I can also say that the original Nook Color works very well with CM7, and is marginally cheaper. The color has the advantage of working bluetooth, and has none of the "issues" that are current in CM7 (trouble waking wifi, for instance)...
Yep, there is plenty you can do. As carnagecjb stated, the easiest way to got the most functionality out of the device would be to run CM7 from an SD card.
Although there's a lot of other options from simply rooting Barnes & Noble's stock ROM to flashing CM9 Alpha to get a taste of ICS!
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I returned my nook back in January, but it seems that things habe actually progressed here, despite the locked bootloader. My mother wants a tablet now, and we're talking about something...cost effective.
What has been accomplished here with this device? Do you still need to make manual hardware modifications in order to make this thing useful?
Duely blundered from my thunderdolt
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The device can be easily rooted using the tips found in this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1439630
If you want to install CM 7, you can do that also:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1481826
Keep in mind CM7 is still Alpha. But there are also Alpha builds of ICS. It seems the main issue holding things up is hardware accelerated video.
Honestly, if I were in your shoes I'd go for the root method and give her a nice launcher. Enable full market access by modifying build.prop and she should be good to go. Make sure that you apply the OTA block as described in Albert's thread so future BN firmware updates wont break root / market access.
The thing holding up CM9 right now is that they are working on getting a fully working 3.x kernel to go with it and they are slowly working on that.
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The device can be easily rooted using the tips found in this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1439630
If you want to install CM 7, you can do that also:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1481826
Keep in mind CM7 is still Alpha. But there are also Alpha builds of ICS. It seems the main issue holding things up is hardware accelerated video.
Honestly, if I were in your shoes I'd go for the root method and give her a nice launcher. Enable full market access by modifying build.prop and she should be good to go. Make sure that you apply the OTA block as described in Albert's thread so future BN firmware updates wont break root / market access.
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What are the options for rooting the 8GB NT, since it will not boot if a SD card is inserted?
EDIT: Ok found out it will boot if tethered to the USB port.
Hey everybody. I was hoping for some educated opinions on this. My sister and brother in law picked up a Touchpad for my niece to be able to use. She is 14 and has cerebral palsy. With her motor controls being diminished somewhat she has never been able use a standard PC very effectively. They had always thought that a touchscreen device would be something she could get used to. So far the Touchpad has been a very good pickup for them as she is able to get some good general entertainment out of is. I was talking to them recently about the option to put Android on it and they were curious about it. They both have Android phones and like them very much. They have a few concerns about hacking the tablet and putting Android on it which I was hoping you all could help with.
They are worried that it won't run as smoothly as it does currently with WebOS on it.
They are worried about loosing the few apps that they have purchased on WebOS (namely read along books).
They are worried about not all of the features working on it.
So give those concerns ... should they go ahead with Android on their HP Touchpad? I am going to send them the link to this thread and it would be great to see some legit opinions. Thank you all!!
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Hey everybody. I was hoping for some educated opinions on this. My sister and brother in law picked up a Touchpad for my niece to be able to use. She is 14 and has cerebral palsy. With her motor controls being diminished somewhat she has never been able use a standard PC very effectively. They had always thought that a touchscreen device would be something she could get used to. So far the Touchpad has been a very good pickup for them as she is able to get some good general entertainment out of is. I was talking to them recently about the option to put Android on it and they were curious about it. They both have Android phones and like them very much. They have a few concerns about hacking the tablet and putting Android on it which I was hoping you all could help with.
They are worried that it won't run as smoothly as it does currently with WebOS on it.
They are worried about loosing the few apps that they have purchased on WebOS (namely read along books).
They are worried about not all of the features working on it.
So give those concerns ... should they go ahead with Android on their HP Touchpad? I am going to send them the link to this thread and it would be great to see some legit opinions. Thank you all!!
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If you add android (I recommend the unofficial cyanogenmod nightlies, which I use), it won't affect webos at all. That being said, all android ports to the TP are in Alpha, though it runs very well. I would say to go ahead and install android, there's nothing to lose. WebOS is an excellent os, I use it about 50% of the time.
Thanks for the reply. Won't effect WebOS at all? Is it running off the SD or something? I have a HTC HD2 and I used to run Android off an SD and that way I could boot off the ROM or SD ROM and get the best of both worlds. Also, are you experience many issues with the Wifi on those builds? My niece of course likes her Angry Birds, but other than that probably 90% of what she does involves the internet or streaming media ... if the wifi didn't work correctly it would suck for her.
Thanks again!
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Thanks for the reply. Won't effect WebOS at all? Is it running off the SD or something? I have a HTC HD2 and I used to run Android off an SD and that way I could boot off the ROM or SD ROM and get the best of both worlds. Also, are you experience many issues with the Wifi on those builds? My niece of course likes her Angry Birds, but other than that probably 90% of what she does involves the internet or streaming media ... if the wifi didn't work correctly it would suck for her.
Thanks again!
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It affected my webos, but only slightly. Just deleted a few apps that I had installed through preware. Don't let this scare you, though, as I believe it was probably user error. Regarding wifi, there is a wide range of opinions. Mine works very well, but others do not. Android does not run off sd card, as touchpad does not have a slot for it. My basic understanding is that it partitions a portion of the hard drive for android and uses the rest as a faux "sdcard".
IMO, you should do it. My second "android" device was also an hd2, so it seems you have the background and know how to do it. As always, be careful to read as much as possible first. Also, there are a few outdated tutorials floating around (I encountered them when I did my touchpad). If you need a list of the current tuts, I'm sure I or another user can give you the links.
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Regarding wifi, there is a wide range of opinions. Mine works very well, but others do not. Android does not run off sd card, as touchpad does not have a slot for it. My basic understanding is that it partitions a portion of the hard drive for android and uses the rest as a faux "sdcard".
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Yes, you end up with WebOs, Android, and a shared data area that is called "sdcard" under Android and visible from a PC.
The WiFi issues can usually be overcome if the WiFi router is yours. If you have to connect to an encrypted WiFi network e.g. at school, that could be an issue.
The range of apps for Android is much wider, including some very nice read along (or read to you) books. But switching to Android means they have to be bought again.
I LOVE the look and feel of WebOS, but I'm a die hard android fan. With wifi being spotty at best on android, I'd stick with WebOS for now. But like the previous posts have said, you can dual boot both OS (just set WebOS to the default in moboot)
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There is a "fix" for the wifi. Just install Rohan's Mod. It works beautifully. I don't have any wifi issues at all.
There's another thing that "fixes" the Wifi issue. Set your router to use one of the lower channels - I suggest 1-3, but anything below 6 is good. Then reconnect to it with your Touchpad, and you're good. There's been some issues in the upper channels, mainly with the fact that CM can support up to channel 14, but nothing in North America is legally licensed to use those channels. So set your regulatory domain to 11, your router to a lower channel, and you're golden.
They are worried that it won't run as smoothly as it does currently with WebOS on it.
Cm9 Runs extremely smooth
They are worried about loosing the few apps that they have purchased on Web-OS.
They wont lose any apps you can always reboot to web-os
They are worried about not all of the features working on it.
Almost about every works expect for the camera and you could always switch back to web-OS and use the camera.
One thing i think you might find a problem is that Android might be to complex for her
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They are worried that it won't run as smoothly as it does currently with WebOS on it.
Cm9 Runs extremely smooth
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CM9 (at least Alphas/official nightlies without overclock) is far behind the latest WebOS in term of interface smoothness.
OP, Battery drain is rather big, and if you'd allow it to discharge to 0%, you wouldn't be able to charge it from Android until you reboot to webos (which could be tricky) and charge it some time from there. Camera doesn't work, mic doesn't work, there are some force closes here and there, and even reboots sometimes.
Overall, don't think that current state of TP Android is suitable for non-geek person, and, as i understand, your niece is extremely non-geek. Better stick with WebOS for now, or get ready to explain stuff to her.
Yea Def put android on it. You wont lose webos if she doesnt like android. So you can give the child a choice.
I ma wondering if anyone runs without rooting or putting on custom roms..
I ask because I just got the prime and have not updated to the .21 yet.
Doesnt seem like I would miss a ton. Just curious..
Yes, I am. I'm running ICS, the latest patch/update/whatever that was pushed by Asus.
(Now, FWIW, I bought my Nook Color tablet last year with the full intention to root and wasted no time in doing so.)
For my TP, I just haven't seen the reason. Given the expense of my 64GB unit, the lack of any pressing reason to hack it, and the (apparent) potential to brick it, it's just not a road I want to go down.
For the Nook Color, the reasons to load CynogenMod 7 were considerable and undeniable. Also, the fact that the Nook always tries to boot from the Micro-SD first was re-assuring. For the TP, not so much.
I'm on the stock rom as well, I don't see any reason in rooting the Prime (at least currently)...
Ok, so it sounds like I am not crazy for wanting to not root it.
I just upgraded to the latest firmware and it seems to run very fast and without issues.
Just wanted to make sure I wasn't missing out on too much.
I rooted my TF101 and slapped custom roms all over the place. A bit scared to do so on my Prime.. Seems the risk is a lot higher..
I don't feel like I'm missing out on anything. I'm open to being enlightened, but I haven't run across any must-have functionalities/apps that require hacking.
too bad i came posting too late, cause i would say root your tablet just incase you do want it.. as theres no way of rooting your device on .21
and you can clear root by just doing a factory reset so there is only gain and no loses
too late now tho
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I'm on the stock rom as well, I don't see any reason in rooting the Prime (at least currently)...
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If I could, I would root BUT NOT UNLOCK. Having a rooted device allows a whole new set of apps that require rooting, and some of which I'd like to use.
If you decide to root, when available, keep the original files backed up someplace. With .15, wpa files could be changed for AD-HOC capability. If you tried to update to .21, you were given an error message and needed to restore the original files back.
Unless you want to void your warrenty, I definitely wouldn't unlock...and as a side note, you also can't get OTA update.
Bob
I am running stock with the latest firmware update. I'm pleased with the features so far, but as the custom ROMs mature, that may change.
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I ma wondering if anyone runs without rooting or putting on custom roms..
I ask because I just got the prime and have not updated to the .21 yet.
Doesnt seem like I would miss a ton. Just curious..
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I'm still running stock here for now but that could change once I learn my way around a little better. Coming from a Linux background it feels odd not to have full access to the device.
I am running stock without any issue.
I also put the Nova launcher and EZOverlock which are a little bit smoother than the stock launcher.
I'm stock but rooted. For me root let's me use apps like TiBackup amongst others that i like and use. Other than that o have no plans to unlock or run roms. Heck I'm still running the stock rom on my DroidX rooted of course
The odds of bricking the Prime are just to high for me right now.
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Yes, I am. I'm running ICS, the latest patch/update/whatever that was pushed by Asus.
(Now, FWIW, I bought my Nook Color tablet last year with the full intention to root and wasted no time in doing so.)
For my TP, I just haven't seen the reason. Given the expense of my 64GB unit, the lack of any pressing reason to hack it, and the (apparent) potential to brick it, it's just not a road I want to go down.
For the Nook Color, the reasons to load CynogenMod 7 were considerable and undeniable. Also, the fact that the Nook always tries to boot from the Micro-SD first was re-assuring. For the TP, not so much.
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This is me exactly. Not sure I even booted the newer Nooks in the house into the stock ROM. My Transformer does what I need it to at this point, unlike the NOok that was locked down like crazy. I'm happy to hang out stock.
I think i would go nuts without root in my prime... i fact i couldn't use for the main task i bought this tablet for.
I take notes every day in classes using my Prime. It has replaced all books and note books, so using TouchScreen Tuner is a MUST, without this, stylus are just useless.
Then we have all those root apps like Titanium Backup, UMTS manager, Market Enabler and WidgetLocker.
Ooh, and of course the possibility to change the sound when i dock my Prime (sounds like a transformer transforming, super awesome if you ask me).
I am running Stock but I did Root because of I wanted to use AdFree and Titianium Backup Apps. I have an Android Phone that I love to Flash new ROMS to and I eventually will Unlock my Prime and do the same to I just don't see the need to at the moment.
I am, but, not so much by choice. I had root and lost it with .21 update. I will reroot when available, but am hesitant to unlock and void my warranty. Especially since asus has made it such a challenge to recover your device. If they are going to give us the unlock tool and we aren't going to be troubling their warranty division with the problems which ensue, just make it easier for us to fix our own problems.
I'm running stock. I I don't know much about rooting because I am new to Android.
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IMHO, the only reason to root this is so you can say "I rooted this." There's no reason to root the Prime, the way I see it. Yeah, there's a little bit of bloatware, but far less than was on my Samsung Galaxy S when I bought it, and with the 64 GB of memory it's not really necessary. I do wish that I could move apps to my SD card, so that could be a reason to root, but not a big enough one to get me to risk it.
I've also noticed that a LOT of people who claimed to be having these huge problems with the Prime also were working with a rooted device...
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stock as well. Though I would love to root to use the sixaxis app.
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I'm still on stock with the latest updates. When I first got my Prime there wasn't a real need to root, although it meant I couldn't run some apps like Adblock. There weren't many roms around at that time but now there's alot more. Now I've gotten used to running Prime stock and it doesn't present any issues for me and runs smoothly and I've kind of lost interest in custom roms (plus I don't have as much time as before). Lol, I used to change roms on my Nexus One nearly as often as I changed my underwear - you can assume that I changed my underwear often
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IMHO, the only reason to root this is so you can say "I rooted this." There's no reason to root the Prime, the way I see it. Yeah, there's a little bit of bloatware, but far less than was on my Samsung Galaxy S when I bought it, and with the 64 GB of memory it's not really necessary. I do wish that I could move apps to my SD card, so that could be a reason to root, but not a big enough one to get me to risk it.
I've also noticed that a LOT of people who claimed to be having these huge problems with the Prime also were working with a rooted device...
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There's many reasons to root a device. If you want to have super user permissions just like being a administrator on your PC, your gonna need to root it. Apps such as Root Explorer and as mentioned Sixaxis app for syncing your PS3 controller up with your prime, ROMManager, TiBu, SetCPU, and the list goes on. All up to the end user and what you prefer. The first thing I do is root my devices
Oh and most if not all issues people run into is due to a user error.. not because the device is rooted.
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Hi all, about 6 months ago I purchased a nook tablet for myself and then a Kindle fire for my wife. A lot of time has passed, and I am interested in rooting my nook. However, interestingly enough I noticed that the Kindle fire has much much more development going on, despite the nooks superior specs. Many roms seem to be kfire ports. Is there any reasoning behind this? Is the fire just a more publicized device? I remember hearing something about the book bootloader being locked or something but I don't remember exactly to be honest. Can anyone give some insight?
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Hi all, about 6 months ago I purchased a nook tablet for myself and then a Kindle fire for my wife. A lot of time has passed, and I am interested in rooting my nook. However, interestingly enough I noticed that the Kindle fire has much much more development going on, despite the nooks superior specs. Many roms seem to be kfire ports. Is there any reasoning behind this? Is the fire just a more publicized device? I remember hearing something about the book bootloader being locked or something but I don't remember exactly to be honest. Can anyone give some insight?
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I see lots of development here for the nook. Too much, in fact, that no one seems to know what ROM to use.
I recommend just rooting the nook tablet so you can load the Android Market (AKA "Play Store") as well as the Amazon App store.
I recommend AGAINST installing any custom ROM found here on this forum. Too much fragmentation for too little benefit. (My opinion, of course).
I installed ADW launcher so I could access applications installed from the Play Store. If you use the Nook home launcher, you won't see these apps.
I rooted using this method: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1529553
This provided root access as well as the Play Store. I am happy with the tablet as it is - no custom ROM.
Have fun...
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DanGeorges said:
I see lots of development here for the nook. Too much, in fact, that no one seems to know what ROM to use.
I recommend just rooting the nook tablet so you can load the Android Market (AKA "Play Store") as well as the Amazon App store.
I recommend AGAINST installing any custom ROM found here on this forum. Too much fragmentation for too little benefit. (My opinion, of course).
I installed ADW launcher so I could access applications installed from the Play Store. If you use the Nook home launcher, you won't see these apps.
I rooted using this method: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1529553
This provided root access as well as the Play Store. I am happy with the tablet as it is - no custom ROM.
Have fun...
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There used to be an app, I think it was called "nook color app manager", that would allow you to add Market apps to your Nook Tablet app screen. I used to use it, but I can't find it in the Market now. It might have been something I sideloaded.
Edit It was sideloaded, but apparently no longer works with 1.4.3: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1760106
I disagree with the recommendation against installing a custom ROM. If you want to, go for it. For lots of people it's worth it to have their tablets exactly the way they want them. Unless you install the 5 touch upgrade you can always go back if you don't like it.
Also, IMO, the reason that the KF has more development than the NT even though the NT has much better stats is the bootloader. It took a long time before we were able to get around the bootloader (and even now it's a hack; a great hack but a hack nonetheless). Because of that a lot of would-be developers returned their NTs and went with other tablets (especially when the Nexus 7 came out at the same price as the NT16).
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There used to be an app, I think it was called "nook color app manager", that would allow you to add Market apps to your Nook Tablet app screen. I used to use it, but I can't find it in the Market now. It might have been something I sideloaded.
Edit It was sideloaded, but apparently no longer works with 1.4.3: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1760106
I disagree with the recommendation against installing a custom ROM. If you want to, go for it. For lots of people it's worth it to have their tablets exactly the way they want them. Unless you install the 5 touch upgrade you can always go back if you don't like it.
Also, IMO, the reason that the KF has more development than the NT even though the NT has much better stats is the bootloader. It took a long time before we were able to get around the bootloader (and even now it's a hack; a great hack but a hack nonetheless). Because of that a lot of would-be developers returned their NTs and went with other tablets (especially when the Nexus 7 came out at the same price as the NT16).
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Good points...
I have found that installing ADW launcher gives me a decent tablet experience without the risk of mucking around with hacked bootloaders and such.
I have access to Play Store apps, Amazon Apps, and B&N apps. I have a home screen launcher that works fine.
The only thing I would appreciate with a custom ROM would be the navigation soft-buttons. The navigation on the Nook's altered GB OS isn't the most elegant. But then again, it is billed primarily for purchasing and reading books and magazines.
The Kindle Fire got way more press than the Nook - and it's sleeker-looking (in some respects).
If I had a choice, I'd get a Nexus tablet - if only because it's a true Tablet that doesn't tie itself to an "ecosystem" (I hate that word, by the way).
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Try Button Savior if you want softkeys. They're not an ideal solution, but they work.
EDIT: Don't spend too much time in the first link - the second one is where the bulk of the good stuff is.
Dan, did you ever happen upon THIS thread? Read through the whole thing before you give it a shot, and don't forget to MAKE A BACKUP of your existing SystemUI.apk before you try anything. Also, give the screenshots some good lookings-over, as there are SEVERAL slightly different versions that folks post throughout the thread. Also, take a look HERE for the version I used before I started mucking about with custom or tweaked roms.
Most importantly, for anyone that does decide to install custom ROMs, check to make sure your ROM is for either 8GB or 16GB tablets before rooting!
I'm running a good job ROM with few issues, it's a battery drain but that OK.
I went back to stock w/a launcher for a few days but ended back on job again.
Nikkiel
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ninjasalad said:
Hi all, about 6 months ago I purchased a nook tablet for myself and then a Kindle fire for my wife. A lot of time has passed, and I am interested in rooting my nook. However, interestingly enough I noticed that the Kindle fire has much much more development going on, despite the nooks superior specs. Many roms seem to be kfire ports. Is there any reasoning behind this? Is the fire just a more publicized device? I remember hearing something about the book bootloader being locked or something but I don't remember exactly to be honest. Can anyone give some insight?
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Umm...several months ago a bunch of us got together and ordered a NT for Rebellos (who lives in Poland), whose day job it is to code/decode software at the binary level. Since he got a chance to poke at it, we got ICS, JB, and an improved Cyanoboot. Development's moving faster than it is with the MyTouch 4G Slide at its age.
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