Hi there,
I'm wondering, has anyone managed to use the toshiba tablet as a rooting machine - as in connecting other devices and rooting them using the tablet?
I'm currently shopping for a tablet/notebook, and thought that it would be nice if i could connect another android device to the folio and root those devices using the folio.
Is this achievable and has anyone tried this?
It *might* be possible. Ubuntu seems to be running quite well by now, so you would need to compile the needed binaries for arm. I don't know if the adb source is availlable, but cross or even native compilation of fastboot should work. Then you cold flash stuff and use adb.
But to be honest, many devices can easily bee rooted with a sufficiant app like z4root.
In the whole it will be a lot more work than just getting a netbook, but it could be fun to try
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It *might* be possible. Ubuntu seems to be running quite well by now, so you would need to compile the needed binaries for arm. I don't know if the adb source is availlable, but cross or even native compilation of fastboot should work. Then you cold flash stuff and use adb.
But to be honest, many devices can easily bee rooted with a sufficiant app like z4root.
In the whole it will be a lot more work than just getting a netbook, but it could be fun to try
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Interesting... I'm not a developer, so it does sound daunting and intimidating to try...
I'm just looking to buy a device that can help me root - i did think about a netbook, but i want my next purchase to be an android tablet, so i was wondering if i could kill 2 birds with one stone...
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I have a Toshiba Satellite L505, running Windows 7 Home Premium (dual core 1st gen i3).
Recent events have made me need to run android-only programs on a semi-daily basis. Combined with the cool factor, I am seriously considering buying a Honeycomb tablet. However, money is limited and I can't really afford it, so I would most likely wind up with a rooted nook color, or just upgrading my phone (LG Vortex). Not terrible options, but my sister has suggested something that would work just as well, if not better, for free.
I know there's at least some version of android that is compatible with x86 processors, and i could get my laptop to dual-boot W7HP and Android, that would be wonderful. Obviously I would want 3.0 Honeycomb, but I would be willing to install 2.4, 2.3, or 2.2. if something newer is not available.
The problem is, I have scoured google and found nothing about this, at all. I have heard of people installing android on their laptops, and some netbooks/laptops are even sold dual-booting, so I know its possible. Now, how on earth would I go about installing android as a secondary OS on my computer? So far I have only been able to find instructions to create an Android Live CD/SD/flash drive, but i need something permanently on my computer, where i can actually save my work and apps to the hard drive. WiFi, keyboard, trackpad, and USB drivers are required, CD and SD would be greatly appreciated as well.
How would i accomplish this? Any and all help would be massively appreciated.
um, hello? anyone?
Yeah thats because only google has a bootable version of their os on a pc. They implement their virtual tool with sdk tool so thats how they want you do it its crazy..There is probably a way though you just have to modify the boot.ini file on your hard drive thus pointing it to the android os. First youll probably need a new hard drive if it can be done on a usb it can be done on a hard drive plain and simple. Dual booting is done through the bios. The bios is what loads the HD which loads the boot.ini file telling it what to boot. Not sure if that would work but its a start there might even be a windows app that will help you do this. Like I said if people are making bootable usb drives its the same process on a hard drive the bios is whats booting that usb so if you direct the bios to an extended hard drive thus booting the android os. Its the same process as it would be on a usb that would make it permanent and there is a program called EasyBCD which easily allows you to change the boot.ini which will basically allow you to have the selection of both operating systems on boot you can choose between the two once you get it working!
Actually it is so much easier. The Android x86 project uses grub. You can boot it and run from livecd, usb or install android to your home pc. I started doin this today to see what the performance benefits would be from a developer point of view.
Installation is pretty straight forward, with loads of tutorials on the website. Have a look at it here http://www.android-x86.org/
I have installed Prime OS classic 0.4.5 works fine on my L505-LS5014
hey all i have an alps u89...
this phone http://cwelltech.en.alibaba.com/pro...quad_core_android_4_2_Star_mobile_phones.html
and i am unable to get ubuntu running on it via chroot method
i am wondering if anybody else has had it running on this phone, or if anyone may know what the problem could be...
after installing needed apps from market and downloading ubuntu image i try and run the setup in cmd and it just seems like nothing wants to work
i have googled every combination to try and find some answers but to no avail...
i have also tried every ubuntu installer app the market... none seem to work... i dont know if my device supports loop devices which is a requirement, but it says that if it dont support loop devices it simply wont boot into ubuntu, but im unable to get it to even start installing...
so any help is greatly apprieciated...
and if anyone is able to assist me in getting it to run on my phone, i am happy to buy them a drink or two as i have near enough given up any hope of having a nice ubuntu running
one last note, i did have a very primitive linux distribution running(gimp) had very limited functionality and it wasnt what i was after...
i cant remember which of the market installer apps i used for it but i am after ubuntu to be as close to the pc counterpart as possible
whats that i hear? challenge accepted??
i hope i heard right
This might be a weird one, but has anyone has come up with the notion of chrooting android x86 inside a pc linux distro. The reverse is quite common ( linux deploy, lil debi etc bundling a debian environment inside a linux device ). I was googling my day to something describing this as something common yet, nothing ( it can be done almost casually on android devices an likewise on major linux distros ).
Has it crossed anyone else's mind ? Whould anybody be interested in postinge something I might have missed or stopping me from trying ( providing sound reasons for not doing so or shouting "this is madness" for maximum drama effect ) .
Whould anyone find it interresting if..... should..... maybe.... provided that i succeeded I post the proccess ?
Hi, yes I thought about this too and spend way too much time looking for a solution like that Plase post if you find anything or even manage to do something on your own. This would totally rock, as I don't want to use any proprietary OS but would like to play some Android games on my computer.
I found a thread where someone managed to do this, but running on the Android kernel. It's still different from running GNU+Linux chrooted, because on the Android kernel runs GNU+Linux and then Android chrooted (kinda complicated ). I asked whether it's possible to have the GNU+Linux kernel running isntead of Android's, you can check it out here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1780378
Also, maybe we can just copy from Chromium/ Chrome OS when they are done implementing support for natively running Android Apps on the OS (which they announcend on Google IO 2014). Hmm, probably not so great (fast) since it will run inside the browser...
A google search got me here. What you guys what to do is a lil different then what i want. I have a really neat device an ASUS TRIO an intel atom powered device.
It has android 4.3 and a windows 10 in the keyboard. The problem is the android 4.3 is so dang old. Id love if it had an update available but only the french tablet asus made that copied the trio tablet only (not dock) got an update to android 4.4. So it got me thinking could I run chrome os on this tablet and gain back more of the support ive lost since the android is so old. That led me to chroot and I know I can run debian but like I said Id love to run chrome os but no one is working on this or I cant find it. Suggestions?
I do not get why this should be a problem. You simply can not chroot into different architectiute (PC is x86 or x86_64). But you can use emulator to provide "bridge" between those architectures. Its called Qemu. You can use qemu binaries for chroot into another architecture. But I do not think that what you want, you area talking about gaming a android games on PC. Thats possible too but I think its not called chroot but its again emulator (not qemu but android emulator) for example AnBox.
I've seen some news spamming the internet that ADB was removed from marshmallow. Can anyone confirm or deny this for stock roms? I run CM13 so no stock roms to see. Wouldn't make sense for ADB to be removed.
What seems to have been removed is the on-device ADB binary. I discovered this myself, today, as I have an Asus TF300T which I regularly use with other Android tablets at work for debug purposes, that I over the weekend upgraded to 6.0. Much to my surprise, no longer am I able to adb from my tablet. I did some quick research on it, and found a few people posting about it, but no solutions as of yet.
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Artemis-kun said:
What seems to have been removed is the on-device ADB binary. I discovered this myself, today, as I have an Asus TF300T which I regularly use with other Android tablets at work for debug purposes, that I over the weekend upgraded to 6.0. Much to my surprise, no longer am I able to adb from my tablet. I did some quick research on it, and found a few people posting about it, but no solutions as of yet.
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isnt there a usb debugging thing?
I have g3 before i had to set it to mtp for debug and adb now i have to set it to ptp but its there and it works
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isnt there a usb debugging thing?
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USB debugging is for connecting a device to another device, ie an Android device to a PC. It does not, however, give an Android device the ability to run ADB locally to connect to another Android device. My situation is, I have a TF300T which is a tablet with a dock, the dock has an actual USB port and functions like a USB OTG adapter. I used to be able to connect other Android devices to the USB port on my tablet and, using a terminal emulator, run ADB commands to the external Android devices. Since upgrading my tablet to 6.0 however, I discovered that I could no longer perform that task. Some quick Googling turned up a couple of places asking about this exact function, and someone on stackexchange posted a question about that exact issue, however they never got any response.
Why Google felt it was necessary to exclude the ADB binary from 6.0 is beyond me. Sure, it's something that is probably rarely used by users, but for those of us that -do- use it, it's not cool that it's suddenly gone.
I wonder if it wouldn't be trivial to extract the binary from a 5.0 device and see if it would just work under 6.0...
Hi
did you find a solution? I'm on CM13 would love to be able to use my tablet as adb client again...
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I ran across this thread the other day. I haven't had a chance to try it yet but this might be what your'e looking for.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2239421
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=3685519&d=1458155113
ElwOOd_CbGp said:
I ran across this thread the other day. I haven't had a chance to try it yet but this might be what your'e looking for.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2239421
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=3685519&d=1458155113
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Works for me. Thanks a lot!
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Guys please help me how to get adb in the Android 6.0 and above I Googled about this but I didn't find it I hope here I can get the solution
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USB debugging is for connecting a device to another device, ie an Android device to a PC. It does not, however, give an Android device the ability to run ADB locally to connect to another Android device. My situation is, I have a TF300T which is a tablet with a dock, the dock has an actual USB port and functions like a USB OTG adapter. I used to be able to connect other Android devices to the USB port on my tablet and, using a terminal emulator, run ADB commands to the external Android devices. Since upgrading my tablet to 6.0 however, I discovered that I could no longer perform that task. Some quick Googling turned up a couple of places asking about this exact function, and someone on stackexchange posted a question about that exact issue, however they never got any response.
Why Google felt it was necessary to exclude the ADB binary from 6.0 is beyond me. Sure, it's something that is probably rarely used by users, but for those of us that -do- use it, it's not cool that it's suddenly gone.
I wonder if it wouldn't be trivial to extract the binary from a 5.0 device and see if it would just work under 6.0...
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I suppose google removed adb from android, is probably because it poses security threats. I am doing a seminar on a paper published in 2017, called SMAShed. It can manipulate android sensor data with only internet permission. As a matter of fact, apps installed using adb are granted all permissions by the OS without notifying the user. You can find the demo at androidsmashed.wordpress.com/demos/ .
Has anyone so far got any form of linux (vnc or framebuffer or any way it might work) on our tablet? A while ago i saw @Stevethegreat write about it in the androplus kernel thread and i'm wondering if anything came out of that. It would be really nice to get debian or ubuntu on here because my note 10.1 is getting quite slow for more demanding programs with its weedy 1.4 ghz exynos while the 810 would probably do amazingly well. By the way in case anyone was about to suggest it-- the linux deploy or complete linux installer apps don't seem to work on this tablet (stock rooted and androplus kernel), linux deploy fails at the beginning of the install and complete linux installer just plain force closes when trying to start the linux.... Any ideas?
What do you want to run on the tablet?
Graphic-wise I do not miss anything.
With a terminal emulator and busybox or adb-shell the commandline takes me far...
I could even cross compile some arm-binaries if I had the itch.
For my server needs I have a Raspberry Pi2 (seafile, carddav, caldav) for < 50 EUR with nice case and power supply. Eats < 10 EUR electricity/year.
DHGE said:
What do you want to run on the tablet?
Graphic-wise I do not miss anything.
With a terminal emulator and busybox or adb-shell the commandline takes me far...
I could even cross compile some arm-binaries if I had the itch.
For my server needs I have a Raspberry Pi2 (seafile, carddav, caldav) for < 50 EUR with nice case and power supply. Eats < 10 EUR electricity/year.
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I mostly need propper linux to run exagear desktop which enables x86 programs to run on arm so that these tablets can be used as a intel laptop replacement . While it runs fine on my pi2 that is really a bit too weak even at 1 or 1.2 ghz and while it is faster on the old note i bet the 810 would make it approach the speeds of a entry level or mid range intel laptop and increase usability by alot. It also seems to me a bit weird how the apps i wrote about in the first post simply do not work on the z4tab even with selinux on premissive and such.
I don't own the tablet so I can't be 100% sure. However if you compile a kernel with Virtual Terminal support and follow the linux guide I wrote for Note 10.1 2014 tablet , I'm mostly positive that you'd get a rather responsive linux implementation. You have to forget hardware acceleration though (as it is dependant to the particular architecture of each and every device), unless you found a way to implement it...
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I don't own the tablet so I can't be 100% sure. However if you compile a kernel with Virtual Terminal support and follow the linux guide I wrote for Note 10.1 2014 tablet , I'm mostly positive that you'd get a rather responsive linux implementation. You have to forget hardware acceleration though (as it is dependant to the particular architecture of each and every device), unless you found a way to implement it...
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This guide? http://forum.xda-developers.com/gal...-to-install-gnu-linux-samsung-galaxy-t3239809
I will try it but first i need to figure out why the linuxdeploy itself wont work... But thank you anyway, no hardware acceleration is more than good enough for my needs
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This guide? http://forum.xda-developers.com/gal...-to-install-gnu-linux-samsung-galaxy-t3239809
I will try it but first i need to figure out why the linuxdeploy itself wont work... But thank you anyway, no hardware acceleration is more than good enough for my needs
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Yeah, but you have to edit some of the files there. For example the kernel used there is obviously for Note tablet, *don't attempt to flash it to Xperia tablet* it will brick it. Also you'd have to edit the xorg.conf fille that you have to copy to the first step (follow the explanation part).
If you do the above two probably both the quick guide and the full guide would work. If not it would mean that I'd have to update my LinuxCanvas app, in which case someone should donate to me an Xperia tablet Z4
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Yeah, but you have to edit some of the files there. For example the kernel used there is obviously for Note tablet, *don't attempt to flash it to Xperia tablet* it will brick it. Also you'd have to edit the xorg.conf fille that you have to copy to the first step (follow the explanation part).
If you do the above two probably both the quick guide and the full guide would work. If not it would mean that I'd have to update my LinuxCanvas app, in which case someone should donate to me an Xperia tablet Z4
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One would have to be pretty mad to go trying to install Linux on a tablet and then flash a kernel from a samsung to a sony xD But yeah... i will try it IF this Linux Deploy will get about maybe working for a change...
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One would have to be pretty mad to go trying to install Linux on a tablet and then flash a kernel from a samsung to a sony xD But yeah... i will try it IF this Linux Deploy will get about maybe working for a change...
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Yeah I know, I just want to be clear so that nobody (of those reading here) would attmpt that and suddenly think that I was the one that bricked his device. I can do without such charges
As for linuxdeploy, I use version 1.5.3 in my guide as it is the one with less issues. I gave a link there to the apk. Try it and see how it goes.
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Has anyone so far got any form of linux (vnc or framebuffer or any way it might work) on our tablet?
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Linux deploy 1.5.6, current from play store, works well for me on a rooted SGP771, of course with an Andro+ kernel. Using armhf gave the least problems to get a Ubuntu or Debian installed with graphics via a local or remote VNC viewer.
Since the Z4T is 64 bits, I however aimed to install an arm64 architecture. Here, the success rate is lower, which is mostly due to packages that cannot be installed and a bug in tightvncserver with arm64 and higher color depth'.
I however finally succeeded with arm64 too, by using Ubuntu wily, LXDE and an x11rdp installed via ssh instead of tightvncserver. Now I'm trying a framebuffer display for speed, power consumption and a higher DPI, but yet without success. Changing DPI for VNC is simple, as Linux Deploy has a setting for it, but using RDP this seems to be tricky.
Did you say which error you get with Linux Deploy? I found it useful to turn on debug and trace output in the settings. The very first issue I had with Linux Deploy, first on the SGP621, later again on the SGP771, was that I tried to use the file method on the external SD card without the necessary permissions. On the Z4T I now use the internal storage instead, it's much faster too.
Unfortunately I'm not a Linux or Android guy, so I need to google solutions for each and every problem I encounter and I don't even think of trying to resolve package installation problems.
My objective is mostly to see how far I can get using Linux on such a lightweight device as the Z4T.
I already had the Eclipse IDE with JDT and CDT running fast enough for productive work. GHC (Haskell) runs too, but not GHCI. Using Linux with a touchscreen only and at such a high DPI is still disappointing. To my surprise, mc works rather well with a tochscreen in a fullscreen terminal via ssh. My holy grail shall however be to see Windows 8.1 running in qemu. I wonder how that will perform. Not so well I suppose. Maybe a combination of Wine and qemu would work ok, where qemu only executes the x86 application code and leaves the OS code behind the Windows APIs up to be executed natively by Wine...
On my raspi2 I use armhf
@vartha
Interesting how far you've come.
On my Raspberry I have no problems (even used LibreOffice on LXDE) with armhf.
armhf (32 bit) gives no problems in package selections so far and should work on the Tablet Z4.
Some background:
https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/armhf/index.html.de
https://wiki.debian.org/Arm64Port
Problems with the tablet could setting up drivers for the qualcomm hardware in your version of Linux.
At least SONY provide the sources for the kernel and heading over to qualcomm there is tons of documentation. Here you look at specific (OEM-) boards. Our tablet is not that exotic.
I doubt you could run a huge operating system of INTEL-architecture due to memory constraints. Windows NT4 or XP might be possible in 3Gbytes host memory.
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Linux deploy 1.5.6, current from play store, works well for me on a rooted SGP771, of course with an Andro+ kernel. Using armhf gave the least problems to get a Ubuntu or Debian installed with graphics via a local or remote VNC viewer.
Since the Z4T is 64 bits, I however aimed to install an arm64 architecture. Here, the success rate is lower, which is mostly due to packages that cannot be installed and a bug in tightvncserver with arm64 and higher color depth'.
I however finally succeeded with arm64 too, by using Ubuntu wily, LXDE and an x11rdp installed via ssh instead of tightvncserver. Now I'm trying a framebuffer display for speed, power consumption and a higher DPI, but yet without success. Changing DPI for VNC is simple, as Linux Deploy has a setting for it, but using RDP this seems to be tricky.
Did you say which error you get with Linux Deploy? I found it useful to turn on debug and trace output in the settings. The very first issue I had with Linux Deploy, first on the SGP621, later again on the SGP771, was that I tried to use the file method on the external SD card without the necessary permissions. On the Z4T I now use the internal storage instead, it's much faster too.
Unfortunately I'm not a Linux or Android guy, so I need to google solutions for each and every problem I encounter and I don't even think of trying to resolve package installation problems.
My objective is mostly to see how far I can get using Linux on such a lightweight device as the Z4T.
I already had the Eclipse IDE with JDT and CDT running fast enough for productive work. GHC (Haskell) runs too, but not GHCI. Using Linux with a touchscreen only and at such a high DPI is still disappointing. To my surprise, mc works rather well with a tochscreen in a fullscreen terminal via ssh. My holy grail shall however be to see Windows 8.1 running in qemu. I wonder how that will perform. Not so well I suppose. Maybe a combination of Wine and qemu would work ok, where qemu only executes the x86 application code and leaves the OS code behind the Windows APIs up to be executed natively by Wine...
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I am now installing the v20 androplus and rooting.. will try again when this is done
vartha said:
Linux deploy 1.5.6, current from play store, works well for me on a rooted SGP771, of course with an Andro+ kernel. Using armhf gave the least problems to get a Ubuntu or Debian installed with graphics via a local or remote VNC viewer.
Since the Z4T is 64 bits, I however aimed to install an arm64 architecture. Here, the success rate is lower, which is mostly due to packages that cannot be installed and a bug in tightvncserver with arm64 and higher color depth'.
I however finally succeeded with arm64 too, by using Ubuntu wily, LXDE and an x11rdp installed via ssh instead of tightvncserver. Now I'm trying a framebuffer display for speed, power consumption and a higher DPI, but yet without success. Changing DPI for VNC is simple, as Linux Deploy has a setting for it, but using RDP this seems to be tricky.
Did you say which error you get with Linux Deploy? I found it useful to turn on debug and trace output in the settings. The very first issue I had with Linux Deploy, first on the SGP621, later again on the SGP771, was that I tried to use the file method on the external SD card without the necessary permissions. On the Z4T I now use the internal storage instead, it's much faster too.
Unfortunately I'm not a Linux or Android guy, so I need to google solutions for each and every problem I encounter and I don't even think of trying to resolve package installation problems.
My objective is mostly to see how far I can get using Linux on such a lightweight device as the Z4T.
I already had the Eclipse IDE with JDT and CDT running fast enough for productive work. GHC (Haskell) runs too, but not GHCI. Using Linux with a touchscreen only and at such a high DPI is still disappointing. To my surprise, mc works rather well with a tochscreen in a fullscreen terminal via ssh. My holy grail shall however be to see Windows 8.1 running in qemu. I wonder how that will perform. Not so well I suppose. Maybe a combination of Wine and qemu would work ok, where qemu only executes the x86 application code and leaves the OS code behind the Windows APIs up to be executed natively by Wine...
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Well now on marshmallow it works!