will the flyer run on any u.s carriers network? because it would suck to have to be connected to wifi in order to enjoy this tablet. i have clear 4g service if only this was a 4g capable device it would make it epic and also will it have sms and mms?
thanks in advance
you need to look for the frequencies of the device
Network Band
GSM 850, GSM 900, GSM 1800, GSM 1900
3G 900, 3G 1700, 3G 2100
i think 1700/2100 is TMobile, but you'll have to check on their site
This will be sprint 4g http://newsroom.sprint.com/news/htc-evo-view-4g-fact-sheet.htm
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its on the best buy website you can pre order the wifi version. i also heard its suppose to come to tmobile
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Does anyone have a Flyer in the US? Have you tried it on T-mobile's network? Engadget says its compatible but i'm curious to know if its compatible with their 3G or only compatible with their 2G network.
The specs say 3G Bands to be 900/2100 if I'm not mistaken and I thought that tmobile required both 1700 and 2100 to work on their network. Anyway I would like to find out for sure.
Bxsteez said:
The specs say 3G Bands to be 900/2100 if I'm not mistaken and I thought that tmobile required both 1700 and 2100 to work on their network. Anyway I would like to find out for sure.
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General 2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G Network HSDPA 900 / 1700 / 2100
have a look here
So if I'm gathering you are saying the Flyer has 900/1700/2100 and US T-mobile is 1700/2100. Is AWS=1700MHz band? If so that would be spectacular!!!
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So if I'm gathering you are saying the Flyer has 900/1700/2100 and US T-mobile is 1700/2100. Is AWS=1700MHz band? If so that would be spectacular!!!
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if T Mobile USA is GSM, and it seems to be, it will work for sure !
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if T Mobile USA is GSM, and it seems to be, it will work for sure !
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Just because its on GSM doesn't mean that it is compatible with their 3G network. It might be stuck on 2G.
It doesn't matter. It's too expensive to be worth buying an imported Flyer. I'm pretty sure Tmobile will be carrying this tablet in the States. Buy it on contract and save about $400.
yes but i think is wifi only.
In one of the other threads in this Flyer forum, a 3G Flyer user says no phone feature
Can this be true???
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1083323
Hello everyone.
- Anyone knows what GSM and UMTS frequencies are supported when Photon is used abroad in GSM networks? Will I get an EDGE speed or at least 3G speed?
I have 2 different SIM card from differenet countries with their own data plans. I just want to make sure this phone can accept and work with this SIM cards.
Thanks.
It'd on the box, our you can google it
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I found 2 sources and they reports as follows:
First:
Network technology:
CDMA:800, 1900
GSM:850, 900, 1800, 1900
UMTS:850, 1900, 2100
Data:EDGE (UMTS:Yes HSPA:Yes WiMAX-4G:Yes)
Second:
WiMAX 2.5, WCDMA 850/1900/2100, CDMA 800/1900, GSM 850/900/1900, CDMA EV-DO Release A, EDGE Class 12, GPRS Class 12
To me data part is still confusing. 2nd source does not mention UMTS or HSPA. What I conclude is that this phone with a SIM card under GSM network can only support EDGE speed. Is it true?
I would love to be able to use this amazing phone in on T-Mobile in the US without crippled data speeds as well as seamlessly on voice. Anybody here have experience with this new phone on this network?
ST18a is supposed to be for AT&T, but I speculate that ST18i might be better for T-Mobile US due to 900/2100MHz. 1700MHz is missing though. I also don't know how accurate this is:
hxxp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T-Mobile_USA#Radio_frequency_spectrum_chart
Just today a T-Mobile Tier2 told me all I needed was 900 / 1800 / 1900MHz for 3G, and 1700 and 2100 for 4G.... so I am left very confused.
Note even access to 3G via roaming on this phone would be acceptable.
just to relieve you from misunderstanding, the ray is not 4G, and the bandwidth 2100 is 3G, and is used mostly in europe and asia pacific, which ever version you get, the umts is available in 5 bandwidth and are all 3G
Hi kms108,
What's your experience with the ST18i? Are you using it in the US? Possibly on T-Mobile?
Thanks!
i have the hong kong version, which is unbranded and using it in hong kong.
i'm liking it very well, just the right size to hold, not a android phone on the market to match it in quality, specs and size wise.
Xperia ray DOES NOT support 3G from Tmobile.
I own the device and I learned it the hard way.
Although ray supports 2100 MHz, the only device that can access Tmobile 3G is the one with BOTH 1700/2100 MHz. It is because Tmobile split both frequencies: one for download and the other for upload.
While for other carriers your phone will work in 3G if it supports either one of the frequencies, however, Tmobile is different.
Having said that, almost ALL of the unlocked phones in the market won't be capable of accessing Tmobile 3G.
If you wish to access 3G, the only carrier that will work is AT&T.
Jon-
Which version, ST18a or ST18i, did you buy? See following:
hxxp://androidforums.com/sony-ericsson-xperia-ray/443709-3g-4g-us-t-mobile-using-st18a-st18i.html
Mine is the ST18i.
Well, neither version will support Tmobile 3G.
ST18i UMTS HSPA 900 (Band VIII), 2100 (Band I)
GSM GPRS/EDGE 850, 900, 1800, 1900
ST18a UMTS HSPA 800(Band VI), 850 (Band V), 1900 (Band II),
2100 (Band I)
GSM GPRS/EDGE 850, 900, 1800, 1900
Here's the specs from the manual.
Since both are missing 1700, neither will be capable of receiving 3G from Tmobile.
AT&T
What irony -- maybe the AT&T acquisition of T-Mobile will have some benefits after all, especially those who buy the ST18a...
This wikipedia link confirms your experience: hxxp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T-Mobile_USA#3G_upgrade
The Xperia X10 had 1700, too bad Sony eliminated it.
jon12315 said:
Mine is the ST18i.
Well, neither version will support Tmobile 3G.
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Since both are missing 1700, neither will be capable of receiving 3G from Tmobile.
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I have the HTC Radar 4G on T-Mobile. Once I unlock it and use it on At&T, it will definitely do calls, but will it pick up 3G or 4G on the AT&T network? I asked HTC and they were unsure. Thanks!
Do a search in this forum to find your answer.
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AT&T uses 850 MHz / 1900 MHz for GSM/GPRS/EDGE and the same two frequencies (850 / 1900) for UMTS/HSPA (their 3G/4G service).
T-Mobile uses the same frequencies (850 / 1900) for GSM/GPRS/EDGE, but uses 2100 MHz and 1700 MHz for UMTS/HSPA/AWS (their 3G / 4G network).
If you want to know what phones will work where, compare the frequencies they receive with those of the carrier you want to use.
In the case of the Radar, it uses the following frequencies
GSM/GPRS/EDGE: 850 MHz; 900 MHz; 1800 MHz; 1900 MHz
UMTS/HSPA: 1700 MHz; 2100 MHz
So, for GSM phone calls and data you have a match with AT&T (and, of course with T-Mobile). 3G / 4G is a different story. The Radar has the T-Mobile 3G/4g bands, but not the bands for high-speed data on AT&T.
So, if you are happy just making phone calls and using EDGE data, then you can use the phone on AT&T. If you want 3G /4G as well you have to stick with T-Mobile.
bleh bleh +10
I finally was able to get the h2O SIM card (AT&T service) and surprisingly it picks up 3G! I definitely notice the difference from when it goes from 2G up to the 3G speeds
http://www.htc.com/us/products/radar4g-tmobile?view=1-1&sort=0#tech-specs
Apparently. It says it does 2100/1900/1700/850
*T-Mobile only uses 1700/1900 bands. source
Interesting! I took my specs from the T-Mobile page which omits the UMTS 850/1900 band. Thanks for the correction.
The box clearly states GSM 850/900/1900/2100 AND HSPA/UMTS: 1700/1900/2100
AWS 1700 = T-Mobile, Wind, Mobilicity
UMTS 1900 = AT&T (although they use 850 extensively too), Rogers, Telus, etc
UMTS 2100 = Asia/Europe
My Radar picks up AT&T 3G. Not sure if UMTS 1900 band will be omnipresent on AT&T as a lot have been extended with HSPA 850 as well.
So, whereever you find UMTS 1900, you'll definitely catch AT&T 3G
Hope this helps.
So, will this work with the medianet plan?
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So, will this work with the medianet plan?
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YES!! Gets 6M downloads, 1.5M uploads.
I was looking at the Google Play Edition S4 on the Play Store: [Can't link outside post yet but go to the Google Play Store]
According to the Specs it uses the same frequency ranges that Verizon uses:
Network
Unlocked GSM/UMTS/HSPA+/LTE
GSM/EDGE/GPRS (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz)
3G (850, 1900, 2100 MHz)
4G LTE (700, 850, AWS, 1900 MHz)
Would this thing work on Verizon with their sim card? Sorry in advance for sounding like a noob.
It lacks a cdma radio.
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It lacks a cdma radio.
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It will (presumably) work on Verizon when they do Voice over LTE... but until then, yes, it lacks a CDMA radio which means it probably won't be of use for VZW.
I knew it wouldn't work on non-CDMA networks but what about the LTE side of the house? Verizon uses 700 Mhz and 1700/2100 Mhz LTE bands for 4G. I could live without 3G for a phone that could connect to any carriers LTE freqs.
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I knew it wouldn't work on non-CDMA networks but what about the LTE side of the house? Verizon uses 700 Mhz and 1700/2100 Mhz LTE bands for 4G. I could live without 3G for a phone that could connect to any carriers LTE freqs.
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Might be fine for 4G data over LTE, but will probably be a paperweight as far as calls are concerned unless you want to go the VOIP route... not to mention you'd be SOL anywhere there's no 4G coverage. Basically there would be no fallback, you'd either have 4G data, or nothing.
I think AT&T and VZ use different ends of the 700mhz spectrum, so even if the phone somehow got authenticated onto the VZ network, the radio/antennae for AT&T's 700mhz may not work on VZ's.