I have just got a used x10 mini off ebay, network unlocked.
I then proceeded to update it from 1.6 to 2.1 using the sony software, then rooted it with superoneclick.
What I am looking at doing is trying to get Copilot Live installed on the phone, so I can use satnav without the data charges (I'm on PAYG)
The problem is, that CoPilot Live and the map packs are going to be large in size, and my internal memory is tiny
I do have a 2Gb micro sd card for it, but I don't think you can install apps directly to it on 2.1 (I can't see sony ever updating the x10 mini ever again tbh)
Ok, my question is, following the 'apps 2 sd' guide on phones on 2.1 and below (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=804574), if I did this, would I be able to install Copilot Live and it's map packs directly to the 2Gb sd card?
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I'm pretty sure copilot saves maps to your sd anyway so that shouldnt be a problem
As for that method for apps2sd I don't know because I haven't done it
I'm pretty sure copilot saves maps to your sd anyway so that shouldnt be a problem
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That would be ideal as I'm sure the actual Copliot Live app would fit on my internal memory, and I really do bot want to mess around partioning sd cards etc just to get apps 2 sd to work.
Does anyone with Coplitot Live installed confirm this?
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100% positive. It's no way that navigation could install data on internal memory. Apk installs @internal memory. Downloaded data go to sd.
Okay, installed apk to sd card, installed with astro.
Copilot then downloaded the maps and voice I chose straight to the sd card using wifi.
But, now I have a bit of a strange problem. When I choose to enter a destination, it opens an onscreen keyboard like usual, and if I try and type 'Lane', it does 'jkl a mn de'.
Basically, it is not cycling through the letters properly, printing a letter every time I touch the screen (hope that makes sense )
Does anyone know how to remedy this, kinda renders Copilot useless if I can't write in proper destinations!
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EDIT: Seems they have fixed the problem in the latest CoPilot Live version. Must have been a weird SE 2.1 keyboard bug.
Will wait till a newer version of CoPilot appears on the bay then...
I had the same problem with copilot and the default keyboard. I downloaded Anysoftkeyboard free from the market. Its a software qwerty keyboard. I'm pretty happy with it.
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I see a lot of talk about the memory and how much is available. but I was wondering about installation of apps-
1, Where are they installed to?
2. How much room is there for them?
3. Is this shared with the RAM memory?
I'm keen to upgrade to an Android phone, but if the app storage is small then this would put me off.
So far app storage for me has not been a problem and I have been downloading a few. I have 102MB still free. Not sure how much was there to begin with though...
The memory for app storage is separate from the RAM - like it should be on WiMo and Symbian handsets.
If you root the Hero you can store apps on the SD card, though I have not done this.
I think unless you go on a download frenzy, you will be fine.
Most apps will allow storage of their cache / data on the SD in their settings menu - such as FeedR (RSS feed app), Twidroid (Twitter app) etc.
it really is nothing to worry about...i had to test a magic for my work a few months ago and one of the tests was to fill the internal memory and then try and use the phone...they'd had issues with windows mobile obviously....and it took over 130 apps installed before it got anywhere near full and still it worked fine for standard use.
seriously, unless you are installing EVERYTHING, then you'll be fine!
That puts my mind at rest. Thank you.
If you do run out of memory, you could always root it. Not that im advocating that or anything ;P
How much memory does the app require?
I have 24mb on my Hero Plus 7gb on my card but keeps saying can't install as not enough space
How can I get this to install etc?
According to my phone co-pilot uses 18.48MB, 11.22MB of that being the app, the other 7.26MB is under "Data". Adding maps will be stored on the SD card and doesn't get calculated until after downloading as maps are licence dependent.
best suggestion would be use app2sd if the message continues as you can see it should fit in easily enough.
disclaimer: This is the latest bought version for Australia, mileage may vary.
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According to my phone co-pilot uses 18.48MB, 11.22MB of that being the app, the other 7.26MB is under "Data". Adding maps will be stored on the SD card and doesn't get calculated until after downloading as maps are licence dependent.
best suggestion would be use app2sd if the message continues as you can see it should fit in easily enough.
disclaimer: This is the latest bought version for Australia, mileage may vary.
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Has to be rooted though :-(
please bear in mind I may be talking rubbish on this but I seem to remember hearing that during app installs the files extract themselves and often require double the space during the install process than they do when they are installed. It may be worthwhile removing a couple of apps which dont require a lot of setup, installing co-pilot, then adding the other apps back on.
Thanks for reply.
I think it's just crazy that HTC think the amount of free space supplied is all ok when it clearly is not.
Makes the having a memory card part of it kinda stupid really, when they don't let you use it for the most common thing!
It's not a must to have so not a big deal if I don't have it.
Hey guys I rooted my Atrix about a month ago using gingerbreak and I finally got a new Bluetooth for it but when I try to turn on the Bluetooth on the phone it attempts to then dose nothing. I have tried restarting the phone and it didn't work. I don't know what else I can do besides factory restoring it, and if I can avoid that I would like to. Any ideas besides that?
Thanks,
Adam
No one has any ideas?
I have the same issue on two different phones. A soft reboot usually gets it working again, until I toggle it off. Then it won't turn on til next reboot.
I have the same exact problem.... tried a lot of things, but none succedd
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I tried battery pulling it and that didn't work either sadly.
Okay, Maybe this info helps. I believe its has something to do with a specific program being moved to the SD Card or sd card mounting.
I just had this happen. Bluetooth would not turn on at all. I decided to play Chuzzle and when my battery went low, I plugged the phone into my comp USB port. It disconnected the SD card in lieu of mass storage. Killed my game because it resides on SD Card. At this point, I decided to test bluetooth and it worked!! Don't have time to test it further but. I suspect something residing on the SD card maybe the culprit. Unfortunately, I have over 30 things on it so segmenting out is going to be a pain.
Do you all have programs on the SD card?
Yeah, i moved 111 apps using apps 2 sd... cant tell which one is related to bluetooth...
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I was having the same trouble and noticed that plugging in USB in storage mode would "fix" my bluetooth... I used Optimize Toolbox too clear all my cache and remove old SMS messages (after a backup) and bluetooth seems to be working again
*Edit* this didn't seem to last after I moved a few apps back to the SD card... I'm giong to keep messing with this...
after much pissing around with moving apps back and forth the internal SD card no longer mounts when i plug into my PC... interesting... I'll continue to report any progress I make
I've removed the physical SD Card and determined the problem lay in the internal SD Card...
ok after some seemingly "random" application moves from SD to phone I have this "working". I think it's a possibly corrupt internal SD but I haven't gotten any of the warnings that I see other people get where the phone explicitly says as much, however here is why I still suspect it:
as I was using Optimize Tool Box to move apps I noticed it was moving them rather slowly and taking a few extra seconds to re-load the app list, after one move (a Dolphin HD plugin full screen froyo incase that matters) I noticed the refresh seems snappier,
I went out to my home screen and hit a bluetooth widget and BT started working, I tried moving a couple different apps back and it stopped working.
Here is a full list of apps I moved OFF my SD in the event that it is still app related and a list of my apps might be handy to see who has common apps
Remote VNC Pro
My Tracks
Knots Guide
ConnectBot
Retro Defense
Best Apps
FBReader
Fullscreen for Froyo
Net Ping
AndFTP
Amazon Kindle
BlastMonkeys
KeePassDroid
Terminal Emulator
AndroZip
DailyComix
Dungeon Defenders
SilverEdit
Linux Commands
Handcent Emoji Plugin
Movie Free
My Backup Root
OSMonitor
Handcent SMS Skin(Metal)
SMS Backup+
Thinking Space
I hope this can help someone fix their phone or better yet get us a litter further towards an actual solution.
These are on my list. They should not be moved to SD:
Firefox
Brain Cube
Rugby
Anyway, the problem seems to be solved on 4.5.91. I've been moving apps all day and yet my bluetooth is still working.
Does anyone know how to get around the limit of installing no more than 123 apps to SD? I have a Samsung Epic. I can install more than that to SD but when I reboot my phone doesn't see the apps on the SD card and it slows down and becomes unusable. I know I can move some to the phone, but I don't want to do that. I have tried different Froyo and Gingerbread roms. Is there any way to up the limit past 123? Thanks.
I can honestly say that I do not have this issue.
I have an Epic 4G Touch, and currently have 202 apps on my SD card with no issues.
I am currently running the Stock ROM.
Are you on Gingerbread? Is your phone rooted? I use Titanium Backup to restore my apps.
Running GB, 2.3.4
Rooted
I also use TB, but everything on there now is a fresh install.
Feel free to use me to help narrow down some of the possibilities for why yours isn't working...
I'm also using GB, Rooted and I use Titanium. What do you mean everything on there is a fresh install? You didn't use Titanium to restore it?
I've tried different SD cards to no avail. I've tried having different roms, kernels and modems to no avail. As soon as i put app # 124 on my card (doesn't matter what app it is), and then I reboot my device, my phone then becomes unusable in the GUI.
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I'm also using GB, Rooted and I use Titanium. What do you mean everything on there is a fresh install? You didn't use Titanium to restore it?
I've tried different SD cards to no avail. I've tried having different roms, kernels and modems to no avail. As soon as i put app # 124 on my card (doesn't matter what app it is), and then I reboot my device, my phone then becomes unusable in the GUI.
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When I say everything on is a fresh install, I mean that I'm re-downloading and installing everything in very small batches, rather than using what I had backed up. After I get something down, and verify that it is working, I back it up.
The reason for this is that I kept getting my phone stuck in a bootloop, and couldn't figure out what was causing it. So I decided that it was almost as easy to re-download everything as it was to restore from backup, since I was pretty much doing it all one app at a time.
AppBrain has made that easier than I expected, though it hasn't relieved any of the tedium.
This may be an absurd question, but after you have broken the 123 barrier and rebooted, have you let your phone sit undisturbed for a while so that everything has a chance to catch up?
I know that as the amount of apps on my SD increases, the time from boot until the phone is "usable" increases as well. I've gotten around this by using Tasker to reboot the phone about fifteen minutes or so before I wake in the morning. That way, no matter if it takes two minutes or ten, it has plenty of time.
Also, have you tried completely busting the 123 barrier? Perhaps jumping straight to 150 or something would make a difference.
Googling for a brief bit only finds a couple of references to there being a limit on the number of apps, but that was supposedly resolved after Froyo.
Yes, I realize it takes a while to discover all the apps on the card after booting. I give it a while and the icons still just stay as a generic SD icon. If I go into Manage Applications those apps on the card are just the generic icon.
I have about 200 apps. I've restored them all before with Titanium and it still has the same problem. I've searched the web as well and saw that someone said it may be a Froyo limitation, but I've tried different Gingerbread roms and the problem still exists.
I've also tried RFS and EXT and it makes no difference.
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Yes, I realize it takes a while to discover all the apps on the card after booting. I give it a while and the icons still just stay as a generic SD icon. If I go into Manage Applications those apps on the card are just the generic icon.
I have about 200 apps. I've restored them all before with Titanium and it still has the same problem. I've searched the web as well and saw that someone said it may be a Froyo limitation, but I've tried different Gingerbread roms and the problem still exists.
I've also tried RFS and EXT and it makes no difference.
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Do you have the same problem using different SD cards?
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Yes, I bought a new SD card and still have the same problem. Old card was 16GB class 2, new card is 32GB class 4.
I've backed up and restored with MyBackup Pro as well and the same problem exists.
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Yes, I bought a new SD card and still have the same problem. Old card was 16GB class 2, new card is 32GB class 4.
I've backed up and restored with MyBackup Pro as well and the same problem exists.
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Some ROMs (like Cyanogenmod) let you move apps to the SD after installing on internal. You might try moving an app doing that and see if that breaks your barrier.
Also, try using that SD formatter for windows that Samsung or Panasonic make. A Google search will turn it up.
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I would suggest trying a class 10 sd card, but a class 6 should do fine. Also look for a firmware update for your phone as that could be the issue.
I've already tried using the card the way it came, I've formatted with Windows, I've formatted with CWM, I'm not so sure that using SD formatter will make much difference.
I have already tried moving apps to SD with the built-in app to sd functionality and it still causes problems when I get above 123 apps.
money11ez said: "I would suggest trying a class 10 sd card, but a class 6 should do fine. Also look for a firmware update for your phone as that could be the issue."
I don't have a class 10 sd card sitting around, so I can't try that. Why would the speed of the card affect how many apps can run off it?
What do you mean try a firmware update? I've tried the stock rom, and many custom froyo (ec05) and gb (ei22) roms and the problem still happens.
the faster the card the more bandwidth it has, so it can access more things at any given time.
Small question: Do you really use all of those apps?
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Epic 4G Move App to SD card limit
HI
I am experiencing the same problem with my EPIC 4G on a Gingerbread ROM. I have tried multiple times with different kernels to work with more than 150 apps on the SD card.
They all move over fine, but on the first reboot the phone fails to find them and goes in to a reproducible loop where it starts up, works very slowly for 2 minutes, then gives a haptic feedback buzz as it reboots, over and over for days.
I know the limit is between 84 and 150 apps on the SD card because I have a working backup image with 84 apps moved over. My experience has been that around the 120+ mark, it just goes very bad very quickly.
If you don't mind my asking, how do you know the limit is 123?
Colin
Hi guys
I hope that one of you had this issue before and might be able to help me out.
To summarise: I am side loading a custom apk onto a Galaxy Tab E which works completely fine until the tablet is rebooted. After every reboot the app simply uninstalls itself - at least partly.
This means, after installing the app again, all the settings and configuration that has been done from within the app previously is still there. (there is no SD card installed in the tablet - internal storage only)
The app is called "mailchimp subscribe". It's old and has last been updated over 2 years ago but does exactly what I need it to do. Installing it from the GooglePlay store works completely fine of course and does not suffer this "uninstall" problem.
The problem I am having with it is that nearly the entire app is in English even though I selected German as the default language. Parts of the App actually appear in German but it seems to me that the guys at mailchimp just gave up on translating it quite quickly.
Since this app is so perfect for my use case however and no third party app really comes close to this, I thought I'm gonna be smart, extract the apk with apktool translate the app into German myself and then simply reassemble and install it.
Surprisingly this all worked on the first try. I now have a re-assembled apk with the exact same mailchimp-subsribe app but completely in German and it is working absolutely perfectly!
I just have this anoying problem now that I mentioned in the beginning which is that the app keeps uninstalling itself - or at least disappears in a strange way after every reboot.
Googling this problem leads to hundreds of threats with people having problems that their SD card doesn't get mounted fast enough or similar things, but my tablet doesn't even have an SD card installed. It's internal storage only!
This app will be the only one running on it (including one other one locking it into Kiosk mode) but the internal storage is more than enough for my purposes.
It would be really great if somebody could point me in the right direction or maybe come up with a solution that doesn't require me to extract and rebuild the original apk.
What I did yesterday is root the tablet because I thought if I install it straight from the play store (which does work without any hiccups) I can then maybe access the system files of the app and simply replace the string.xml (the language file) with my self made German version - but unfortunately the folder that file is stored in doesn't show up.....so I'm kind of out of ideas right now :-/