Does anyone know how to get around the limit of installing no more than 123 apps to SD? I have a Samsung Epic. I can install more than that to SD but when I reboot my phone doesn't see the apps on the SD card and it slows down and becomes unusable. I know I can move some to the phone, but I don't want to do that. I have tried different Froyo and Gingerbread roms. Is there any way to up the limit past 123? Thanks.
I can honestly say that I do not have this issue.
I have an Epic 4G Touch, and currently have 202 apps on my SD card with no issues.
I am currently running the Stock ROM.
Are you on Gingerbread? Is your phone rooted? I use Titanium Backup to restore my apps.
Running GB, 2.3.4
Rooted
I also use TB, but everything on there now is a fresh install.
Feel free to use me to help narrow down some of the possibilities for why yours isn't working...
I'm also using GB, Rooted and I use Titanium. What do you mean everything on there is a fresh install? You didn't use Titanium to restore it?
I've tried different SD cards to no avail. I've tried having different roms, kernels and modems to no avail. As soon as i put app # 124 on my card (doesn't matter what app it is), and then I reboot my device, my phone then becomes unusable in the GUI.
cbanks3 said:
I'm also using GB, Rooted and I use Titanium. What do you mean everything on there is a fresh install? You didn't use Titanium to restore it?
I've tried different SD cards to no avail. I've tried having different roms, kernels and modems to no avail. As soon as i put app # 124 on my card (doesn't matter what app it is), and then I reboot my device, my phone then becomes unusable in the GUI.
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When I say everything on is a fresh install, I mean that I'm re-downloading and installing everything in very small batches, rather than using what I had backed up. After I get something down, and verify that it is working, I back it up.
The reason for this is that I kept getting my phone stuck in a bootloop, and couldn't figure out what was causing it. So I decided that it was almost as easy to re-download everything as it was to restore from backup, since I was pretty much doing it all one app at a time.
AppBrain has made that easier than I expected, though it hasn't relieved any of the tedium.
This may be an absurd question, but after you have broken the 123 barrier and rebooted, have you let your phone sit undisturbed for a while so that everything has a chance to catch up?
I know that as the amount of apps on my SD increases, the time from boot until the phone is "usable" increases as well. I've gotten around this by using Tasker to reboot the phone about fifteen minutes or so before I wake in the morning. That way, no matter if it takes two minutes or ten, it has plenty of time.
Also, have you tried completely busting the 123 barrier? Perhaps jumping straight to 150 or something would make a difference.
Googling for a brief bit only finds a couple of references to there being a limit on the number of apps, but that was supposedly resolved after Froyo.
Yes, I realize it takes a while to discover all the apps on the card after booting. I give it a while and the icons still just stay as a generic SD icon. If I go into Manage Applications those apps on the card are just the generic icon.
I have about 200 apps. I've restored them all before with Titanium and it still has the same problem. I've searched the web as well and saw that someone said it may be a Froyo limitation, but I've tried different Gingerbread roms and the problem still exists.
I've also tried RFS and EXT and it makes no difference.
cbanks3 said:
Yes, I realize it takes a while to discover all the apps on the card after booting. I give it a while and the icons still just stay as a generic SD icon. If I go into Manage Applications those apps on the card are just the generic icon.
I have about 200 apps. I've restored them all before with Titanium and it still has the same problem. I've searched the web as well and saw that someone said it may be a Froyo limitation, but I've tried different Gingerbread roms and the problem still exists.
I've also tried RFS and EXT and it makes no difference.
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Do you have the same problem using different SD cards?
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Yes, I bought a new SD card and still have the same problem. Old card was 16GB class 2, new card is 32GB class 4.
I've backed up and restored with MyBackup Pro as well and the same problem exists.
cbanks3 said:
Yes, I bought a new SD card and still have the same problem. Old card was 16GB class 2, new card is 32GB class 4.
I've backed up and restored with MyBackup Pro as well and the same problem exists.
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Some ROMs (like Cyanogenmod) let you move apps to the SD after installing on internal. You might try moving an app doing that and see if that breaks your barrier.
Also, try using that SD formatter for windows that Samsung or Panasonic make. A Google search will turn it up.
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I would suggest trying a class 10 sd card, but a class 6 should do fine. Also look for a firmware update for your phone as that could be the issue.
I've already tried using the card the way it came, I've formatted with Windows, I've formatted with CWM, I'm not so sure that using SD formatter will make much difference.
I have already tried moving apps to SD with the built-in app to sd functionality and it still causes problems when I get above 123 apps.
money11ez said: "I would suggest trying a class 10 sd card, but a class 6 should do fine. Also look for a firmware update for your phone as that could be the issue."
I don't have a class 10 sd card sitting around, so I can't try that. Why would the speed of the card affect how many apps can run off it?
What do you mean try a firmware update? I've tried the stock rom, and many custom froyo (ec05) and gb (ei22) roms and the problem still happens.
the faster the card the more bandwidth it has, so it can access more things at any given time.
Small question: Do you really use all of those apps?
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Epic 4G Move App to SD card limit
HI
I am experiencing the same problem with my EPIC 4G on a Gingerbread ROM. I have tried multiple times with different kernels to work with more than 150 apps on the SD card.
They all move over fine, but on the first reboot the phone fails to find them and goes in to a reproducible loop where it starts up, works very slowly for 2 minutes, then gives a haptic feedback buzz as it reboots, over and over for days.
I know the limit is between 84 and 150 apps on the SD card because I have a working backup image with 84 apps moved over. My experience has been that around the 120+ mark, it just goes very bad very quickly.
If you don't mind my asking, how do you know the limit is 123?
Colin
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Hey guys I rooted my Atrix about a month ago using gingerbreak and I finally got a new Bluetooth for it but when I try to turn on the Bluetooth on the phone it attempts to then dose nothing. I have tried restarting the phone and it didn't work. I don't know what else I can do besides factory restoring it, and if I can avoid that I would like to. Any ideas besides that?
Thanks,
Adam
No one has any ideas?
I have the same issue on two different phones. A soft reboot usually gets it working again, until I toggle it off. Then it won't turn on til next reboot.
I have the same exact problem.... tried a lot of things, but none succedd
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I tried battery pulling it and that didn't work either sadly.
Okay, Maybe this info helps. I believe its has something to do with a specific program being moved to the SD Card or sd card mounting.
I just had this happen. Bluetooth would not turn on at all. I decided to play Chuzzle and when my battery went low, I plugged the phone into my comp USB port. It disconnected the SD card in lieu of mass storage. Killed my game because it resides on SD Card. At this point, I decided to test bluetooth and it worked!! Don't have time to test it further but. I suspect something residing on the SD card maybe the culprit. Unfortunately, I have over 30 things on it so segmenting out is going to be a pain.
Do you all have programs on the SD card?
Yeah, i moved 111 apps using apps 2 sd... cant tell which one is related to bluetooth...
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I was having the same trouble and noticed that plugging in USB in storage mode would "fix" my bluetooth... I used Optimize Toolbox too clear all my cache and remove old SMS messages (after a backup) and bluetooth seems to be working again
*Edit* this didn't seem to last after I moved a few apps back to the SD card... I'm giong to keep messing with this...
after much pissing around with moving apps back and forth the internal SD card no longer mounts when i plug into my PC... interesting... I'll continue to report any progress I make
I've removed the physical SD Card and determined the problem lay in the internal SD Card...
ok after some seemingly "random" application moves from SD to phone I have this "working". I think it's a possibly corrupt internal SD but I haven't gotten any of the warnings that I see other people get where the phone explicitly says as much, however here is why I still suspect it:
as I was using Optimize Tool Box to move apps I noticed it was moving them rather slowly and taking a few extra seconds to re-load the app list, after one move (a Dolphin HD plugin full screen froyo incase that matters) I noticed the refresh seems snappier,
I went out to my home screen and hit a bluetooth widget and BT started working, I tried moving a couple different apps back and it stopped working.
Here is a full list of apps I moved OFF my SD in the event that it is still app related and a list of my apps might be handy to see who has common apps
Remote VNC Pro
My Tracks
Knots Guide
ConnectBot
Retro Defense
Best Apps
FBReader
Fullscreen for Froyo
Net Ping
AndFTP
Amazon Kindle
BlastMonkeys
KeePassDroid
Terminal Emulator
AndroZip
DailyComix
Dungeon Defenders
SilverEdit
Linux Commands
Handcent Emoji Plugin
Movie Free
My Backup Root
OSMonitor
Handcent SMS Skin(Metal)
SMS Backup+
Thinking Space
I hope this can help someone fix their phone or better yet get us a litter further towards an actual solution.
These are on my list. They should not be moved to SD:
Firefox
Brain Cube
Rugby
Anyway, the problem seems to be solved on 4.5.91. I've been moving apps all day and yet my bluetooth is still working.
OK, naturally Im frustrated with the x2's performance, crashes, reboots, hang ups...etc so i've retored factory defaults several times.
Naturally android does not restore my apps like its supposed to. So I noticed my sd card is full and was wondering if it was full because all the apps I had once "saved to sd card" are still lingering there.
Are they still there? Where on the sd card are they saved? I'd like to try to purge out the old ****.
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OK, naturally Im frustrated with the x2's performance, crashes, reboots, hang ups...etc so i've retored factory defaults several times.
Naturally android does not restore my apps like its supposed to. So I noticed my sd card is full and was wondering if it was full because all the apps I had once "saved to sd card" are still lingering there.
Are they still there? Where on the sd card are they saved? I'd like to try to purge out the old ****.
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You Could Just Format The SD Card. That's Fastest And Easiest Way To Clean. I'm Not Really Sure What You're Asking.
Other Thought Would Be Get Root Explorer Or Some Other Manager That Allows To Explore Everywhere.
I think the apps you transfer to the sd card go into the android_secure folder, but I maybe wrong...
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Ok so I have been on the phone all afternoon with verizon tech support and HTC support and i have gotten no where I apologize if this problem has been solved b4 i did extensive searches with no luck so here goes.
MY Stock Unrooted Thunderbolt is losing site of the apps that have been moved to my sd card on boot. So basically i have a majority of my apps on my tbolt saved to sd card to save space on the actual phone. Some of the apps were moved manually through the applications and others were moved using ZDbox as they were installed and moved. My phone has been this way for sometime with no problem. Now about 3 days ago my phone was acting really slow and just not working properly showing signs it needed to be rebooted so i rebooted it and once done booting i went to my apps and found several of the apps missing from my app drawer as well as the shortcuts on home screens. So verizon referred me to HTC who is blaming it on ZDbox they claim zdbox corrupted the app files somehow when it moved it to the sd card and if i uninstalled that they claim the problem should be solved. However I cant remove ZDBox due to my sd card not showing up that program seems to still be on the phone its self so it should be able to uninstall it but it just locks up when i try
now i could go on and on and on with what i have done but i was hopeing someone here maybe had a similar situation or knew of a way to fix this problem. I have the SD card backed up and all the app files are showing in the location they are suppose to be in but i just cant understand what would cause his problem.
ANY help would be great and i hope im not coming off as a noob i have been troubleshooting this for several days and do consider my self to be knowledgeable in this area but i have surpassed my experience with no luck and I am here hoeping someone out there has an idea !!!!
thanks again in advance
oh ya almost forgot verizon claimed a htc rep told them its a known problem and to just keep powercycling the phone and eventually it will see the apps but i never got them to say that to me they wanted to point straight to the third party app zdbox even after i told them not all the apps were moved by that app.
I was having a similar problem with my stock vzw galaxy tab I factory reset it and reinstalled only a select applications and seemed to solve it but i dont think i have that many apps on my tbolt (i had over 150 on my tab)
sounds like you have corruption on your sd card. I would pull it out of the phone, connect it to a pc and run a scandisk on it and let it correct any errors. Then I would back it up to the pc. After this I would put it back into the phone and see if the apps show up. If not, I would hound verizon or htc for a new sd card or new phone, their choice.
A friend of mine had the same issue and the only solution was to get rid of zdbox. The issue is:
The phone is not rooted and apps that get moved to the memory card that do not allow it natively will not show up (usually after a reboot) because the original location is not available when the phone or app looks for it.
To move them properly even most apps not meant to move, you have to root.
He also wound up having to reformat the sd card.
I would say to try the suggestion above and maybe you will have luck that way but my friend had to just leave the apps that dont move to sd on the phone. He still wont root even after he sees my phone and loves the things I can do with it.
Not sure why people are obsessed with moving Apps to the SD card. I put games on there but otherwise all the rest of my 100+ Apps are on the phone and I still have 1.7gb of free phone space.
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have you tried doing an sd card rescan?
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.bero.sdrescan
So if you are moving all of your apps to your SD card, what are you actually using your internal storage space for? I think doing that on a phone like the Thunderbolt isn't usually worth it. Combined with the problems moving the apps can cause, there really isn't much point to it.
ok. I hope this isnt too much of a newb question...
I have looked all over to see if I could find any problems with people getting apps off of their SD card. I found a few topics and reviewed them, but I have had little luck. Most of those threads also involve root problems whereas my Evo 3d is still stock (updated to 2.3.4).
The main problem Im having (aside from linpak and various other benchmarks being dramatically reduced) is that I can not get the apps off of my SD card to show on the phone.
I performed a factory reset on the phone prior to the update as I've read several times that it is the preferred method of updating since it wipes the Dalvik (sp?) cache or whatever. I guess if you just update without wiping, it clogs up the cache or something to that effect.
Anyhow, I moved all the apps to SD. I did the wipe, then I did the OTA. Once the OTA was complete it would not recognize my apps at all. They DO NOT show up under app management as being on the SD. It is blank. It does however still show my music and pictures.
Since I swapped my 8 GeeBee card with a 16 I figured perhaps the card was corrupted somehow. So, I took my OEM Sandisk 8gb card and put that in and it wont transfer the apps that were on that either.
Ive tried to restart. Nothing. Ive unmounted the SD card, restarted without a card. Shut down. Put card back in, mounted. Still nothing .
Any help guys...and again, sorry if this is a newb question.
Use any third party apps? I believe the system installer doesn't check external storage. Try Astro free and you should be ok. Let me know what you run into
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Ooh and most benchmarks for this phone are inaccurate due to its resolution. They may have updated to account for this but that's what I've heard as of late.
It's a 1.2 factory dual core so why of super Oct'd phones and tablets you should reign supreme.
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I have a couple apps from Amazon but not many. so when I used astro I tried to find the apps and couldn't find any. Normally on my PC they are listed under Android secure...when I pull that up with astro it says directory empty..but they do show up when I have the card in my laptop...
Also, when I switched my sd out before all I had to do was copy the files and pop it in the phone. They showed up right away. Not sure why phone won't recognize them now.
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Tries an adb push?
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They shouldn't be in secure yet I'd they're typically ibstalld
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Yeah. I'm not sure what the deal is. I just ended up wupping the sd card and starting over. I have a spare sd I moved all my pics and such to so I'm not too worried about it.
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Hello,
I've searched but nobody seems to have my particular problem. I moved a bunch of Apps via App2Sd from my Phone to my SD card, thinking it would help eliminate the "Insufficient storage device" error that kept popping up. It did the trick, but my phone became insanely slow as a response...and it periodically reboots every 1-3 minutes. I'm not quite sure what I did - or rather, how exactly moving Apps to my SD card could wrought such havoc on my phone. My phone is not rooted, and I have not made any effort to modify it beyond the normal means. Could anyone assist me? I'd appreciate it.
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Hello,
I've searched but nobody seems to have my particular problem. I moved a bunch of Apps via App2Sd from my Phone to my SD card, thinking it would help eliminate the "Insufficient storage device" error that kept popping up. It did the trick, but my phone became insanely slow as a response...and it periodically reboots every 1-3 minutes. I'm not quite sure what I did - or rather, how exactly moving Apps to my SD card could wrought such havoc on my phone. My phone is not rooted, and I have not made any effort to modify it beyond the normal means. Could anyone assist me? I'd appreciate it.
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Did you move widgets or launchers?
Nawhdee said:
Hello,
I've searched but nobody seems to have my particular problem. I moved a bunch of Apps via App2Sd from my Phone to my SD card, thinking it would help eliminate the "Insufficient storage device" error that kept popping up. It did the trick, but my phone became insanely slow as a response...and it periodically reboots every 1-3 minutes. I'm not quite sure what I did - or rather, how exactly moving Apps to my SD card could wrought such havoc on my phone. My phone is not rooted, and I have not made any effort to modify it beyond the normal means. Could anyone assist me? I'd appreciate it.
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I have a very vague recollection of the stock recovery but I believe there is a way to wipe CACHE (not DATA) from it. Try that first.
Also, If you're not rooted then that app is not doing anything you can't already do on the stock rom. I would try moving the apps back and then get rid of that app. You can move individual apps through phone settings > applications. That app only moves apps that can already be moved by stock Android.
If all else fails you may be looking at a factory reset. That's the crummy thing about an unrooted phone, if something goes wrong you don't have many options.
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Did you move widgets or launchers?
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I can't specifically remember, but I moved almost everything. It's likely that I moved my launcher, GoLauncher. As for widgets, I only have one widget, BusinessCalendar, and since that doesn't function from the SD card (as far as I know), I left it there.
In the end I removed my SD card and, predictably, the phone worked just fine. I wanted to avoid it, but I guess I'm just gonna mount and clear my SD card.
Nawhdee said:
Hello,
I've searched but nobody seems to have my particular problem. I moved a bunch of Apps via App2Sd from my Phone to my SD card, thinking it would help eliminate the "Insufficient storage device" error that kept popping up. It did the trick, but my phone became insanely slow as a response...and it periodically reboots every 1-3 minutes. I'm not quite sure what I did - or rather, how exactly moving Apps to my SD card could wrought such havoc on my phone. My phone is not rooted, and I have not made any effort to modify it beyond the normal means. Could anyone assist me? I'd appreciate it.
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For some reason it seems not much people know that if all your apps are on your INTERNAL it will be extremely faster. The UI throughout the phone will significantly increase. Guarantee you that.
The phone has to locate read the app from the SD then boot it save data on SD= lag.
As above, and some apps do not play well on the external sd even though they can be put there. I'm pretty sure the launcher should be on the internal sd.
If you really are out of space on the internal, then only move one, or a small number of apps to external, and then only one at a time, to see the effects. Also, choose the ones you use the least.
I'd suggest you move everything back to the internal memory and see if the phone functions normally again. If so, then move apps to external as I mentioned above. If not, you may have to wipe data/factory reset and set everything up all over again.
What ROM are you running? I recommended flashing something light and tight to improve your overall experience. Try Ethereal, or Vagabond for that matter. Light GB ROMs, and super stable.
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What ROM are you running? I recommended flashing something light and tight to improve your overall experience. Try Ethereal, or Vagabond for that matter. Light GB ROMs, and super stable.
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wrong forum?
Those ROMs dont exist for this device. and GB sucks and is for old phones.
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What ROM are you running? I recommended flashing something light and tight to improve your overall experience. Try Ethereal, or Vagabond for that matter. Light GB ROMs, and super stable.
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i don't believe those are available for our device... fail post is fail.
Try out a few things for a few days, maybe one will offer you what you want?
Clay
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