Now that the latest mini's are announced with 2.3 it should be that much easier for SE to release 2.3 update for older mini's. Plus they are also on board with the latest Andriod update policy, anyway to remind this fact i started a thread in fb se fan page which is guaranteed to bring their attention.
facebook dot com slash topic.php?uid=35313373389&topic=26305 (im unable to link because i haven't posted many here)
are you sure?
uchitha said:
Now that the latest mini's are announced with 2.3 it should be that much easier for SE to release 2.3 update for older mini's. Plus they are also on board with the latest Andriod update policy, anyway to remind this fact i started a thread in fb se fan page which is guaranteed to bring their attention.
facebook dot com slash topic.php?uid=35313373389&topic=26305 (im unable to link because i haven't posted many here)
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Knowing Sony.. they will never update our "old" mini/minipro..
They have to. Google posted new codex
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They have to. Google posted new codex
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I don't think so.
I suppose it apply just for "new" phones, not "old" ones
Doubt it: knowing Sony , theyll just say the original X10 mini never existed.
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hope this updated coming through
they will not update it the new mini and the new pro are completely different then the old mini and the old pro screen size ARM family and that ****
they will not make an update for old mini and pro coz the new mini and pro are realeased
We still have to write the official site!
While I would very much like an oficial update, it just wouldn't make any sense for a commercial point of view, even if the new Mini line was the same hardware, they want to sell more phones, not rehash old ones.
I think that SE never release Android 2.3 for old mini/mini pro... I' m owner of mini pro and I just rooted and used MiniCM v7 what's Android 2.3 and it's much better than SE ever can release
wOrHeR SvK said:
I think that SE never release Android 2.3 for old mini/mini pro... I' m owner of mini pro and I just rooted and used MiniCM v7 what's Android 2.3 and it's much better than SE ever can release
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Are you sure? Because until nobodyatAll fixes it, Your Mini Pro won't be able to use the 5MP Camera or VGA Recording, things that would be working perfectly on a stock SE 2.3 ROM.
DustArma said:
Are you sure? Because until nobodyatAll fixes it, Your Mini Pro won't be able to use the 5MP Camera or VGA Recording, things that would be working perfectly on a stock SE 2.3 ROM.
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But the fix will come faster then sony updating it to 2.3 (chances of this: 0 XD)
sony doesnt care about old phones i dont care about them neither.
our phones works alot better with xda dev ROMs thanks to owain & slade and other devs you guys rock
Write your angry letters here
http://blogs.sonyericsson.com/products/2011/03/25/update-on-xperia™-x10/
Пишем свои гневные письма сюда
http://blogs.sonyericsson.com/products/2011/03/25/update-on-xperia™-x10/
What are the realistic factors limiting them in making an update for our Mini/MP's?
I understand that the hardware specs are different, but they both possess the same functionality and run the same features. If they're making the update for the x10, surely it wouldn't be too great a leap in tweaking it to release on a device thats pretty much exactly the same? I'm not a developer, but it just sounds like a cop out.
I understand that it is almost impossible that SE upgrades old minis.
But, as long as the new minis have android 2.3, I'm sure that it would be easier to develop a custom ROM based on that one.
Let's hope it's stable.
Yes but why? They're just a smaller version of the same phone but with slightly less impressive specs i.e. the x10 has a 1ghz processor, whilst the mini/MP has a 600mhz processor, which has been overclocked comfortably by a lot of guys here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1075320
There is no realistic factor limiting them, its probably just their marketing department.
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I currently have a HTC Magic but I am getting annoyed with the lack of decent stable roms for it so I have been shopping around and for my budget I have a choice of either an X10 mini or the new X8 but wanted to find out which would be better as I understand the X8 is like the X10 mini but with a bigger screen and a lower camera
Dony buy either of the phones as they are dum.
I was a xperia x1 user and my x1 stopped working as it had gone in water.
I bought a x8 and my friend also had saved moey to buy a x10 mini pro.
But let me tell you that its nor worth thr money you are spending and the X1 had 13 buttons on the front bottom the xperia just had 3 buttons on the front bottom.
There isnt any direct call button, you will have to go back from the menu to make a call.
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There isnt any direct call button, you will have to go back from the menu to make a call.
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With a alternate Homelauncher (f.ex. ADW) you can bind the middle key with the dialer if you are already at the homescreen.
...and for the X8 and X10 use the sony-ericsson.com comparison tool and try to look at the phones at a market.
adils3d said:
Dony buy either of the phones as they are dum.
I was a xperia x1 user and my x1 stopped working as it had gone in water.
I bought a x8 and my friend also had saved moey to buy a x10 mini pro.
But let me tell you that its nor worth thr money you are spending and the X1 had 13 buttons on the front bottom the xperia just had 3 buttons on the front bottom.
There isnt any direct call button, you will have to go back from the menu to make a call.
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Sorry to sound dumb but isn't the X1 a WM device? the 2 I asked about are both Android devices I only ask about these 2 devices as I hate WM and Apple iOS. My other oprion is to strech my budget for a HTC Wildfire (all of these handsets would be pay as you go)
VooDoo` said:
With a alternate Homelauncher (f.ex. ADW) you can bind the middle key with the dialer if you are already at the homescreen.
...and for the X8 and X10 use the sony-ericsson.com comparison tool and try to look at the phones at a market.
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I have looked at the comparison charts but I am more interested in 'real life' comparison rather then a spec for spec comparison
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Sorry to sound dumb but isn't the X1 a WM device? the 2 I asked about are both Android devices I only ask about these 2 devices as I hate WM and Apple iOS. My other oprion is to strech my budget for a HTC Wildfire (all of these handsets would be pay as you go)
I have looked at the comparison charts but I am more interested in 'real life' comparison rather then a spec for spec comparison
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i had also a x1 wm phone, and now i have x10 mini pro and had x10, x10 mini and htc wildfire....
If you will have a small phone get the mini, i only have the pro becouse i use the qwerty keyboard much.... the mini/pro is a great phone, but the wildfire has a ugly screen, then you use a picture as wallpaper is looks ugly.....
so if i was you i will look at x10 mini or x8....
my 2 cents
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i had also a x1 wm phone, and now i have x10 mini pro and had x10, x10 mini and htc wildfire....
If you will have a small phone get the mini, i only have the pro becouse i use the qwerty keyboard much.... the mini/pro is a great phone, but the wildfire has a ugly screen, then you use a picture as wallpaper is looks ugly.....
so if i was you i will look at x10 mini or x8....
my 2 cents
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Cheers for that I am not much of a qwerty keypad user I prefer the old T9 style predictive keypad as I don't text often and I can text a lot quicker with a keypad rather then a qwerty. I know what you mean about wallpapers on the wildfire as I had previously had a Tattoo with a similer size screen
My thought
Personally I like more X8. I've got X10 mini pro two months ago. I like it, It is nice device but small resolution restrict from getting all those great apps so it is not ideal. I also thought I will use HW keyboard a lot but most of time I'm just lazy to do it. On screen keyboard could be good enough for me. Camera with autofocus is nice but I have problem with fingerprints on lens everytime I check lens out. Such small phone is hard to avoid touching the lens. And also AF is not working perfectly. I experienced decently blured pictures from time to time (just bad focus, not shutter problem). So, with X8 you can save some money and still get slightly more usable device thus better resolution. Personally I'm thinking about switch to X8 from my X10 mini.
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Cheers for that I am not much of a qwerty keypad user I prefer the old T9 style predictive keypad as I don't text often and I can text a lot quicker with a keypad rather then a qwerty. I know what you mean about wallpapers on the wildfire as I had previously had a Tattoo with a similer size screen
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the x10 mini has a good t9 keyboard, but the x8 comes with a on-screen qwerty keyboard like the x10 and not as the mini's keyboard
disreguard adils3d's juvenile comments lol...
Anyway i have a mini pro, and its a gr8 little phone but i bought it specificly because i wanted a small smartphone and a taste of android with T9 style onsceen keypad for sms...using the slider more for emails etc.
The X8 Depends if a bigger screen is more important to you and your not bothered about the lesser camera fucntions and like an onscreen qwerty apart from that i dont think there is any difference apart from price.
In the uk o2 are selling the X8 for £130!!!!
unfortunatly when I went to get the x10 mini today from CEX it had been sold so in the end I ended up getting a HTC Hero instead as they didn't have anymore x10 mini's within my price range. The X10 mini was going for £130 unlocked/sim-free but as it was sold I got a HTC Hero for £120 + £15 to get it unlocked
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unfortunatly when I went to get the x10 mini today from CEX it had been sold so in the end I ended up getting a HTC Hero instead as they didn't have anymore x10 mini's within my price range. The X10 mini was going for £130 unlocked/sim-free but as it was sold I got a HTC Hero for £120 + £15 to get it unlocked
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Htc Hero is also a great phone, works good, and if you root it you kan put android 2.2 on it
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Htc Hero is also a great phone, works good, and if you root it you kan put android 2.2 on it
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I would do but I like the HTC Sense UI which I don't think is in 2.2 yet?
I currantly have 2.1 update 1
Gavincol78 said:
I would do but I like the HTC Sense UI which I don't think is in 2.2 yet?
I currantly have 2.1 update 1
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i don't know with sense but custom rom from villian team works great with hero
http://www.villainrom.co.uk/forum/
X10 Mini is perfect small phone with lots of features better than X8
raiderkilo said:
X10 Mini is perfect small phone with lots of features better than X8
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I don't think that except camera there is any superior feature in mini than x8..
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As a X10 Mini owner, I'd say it depends a lot on its usage.
I got the X10 Mini because I already owned an Omnia HD with great camera and multimedia capabilities and I needed a second device to handle another operator.
The X10 Mini is just that, a great secondary device with great software capabilities because of Android and spectacular performance. It does hold the title of world's smallest smartphone.
However.. the small screen and resolution limits too much the android experience, making some tasks like web browsing a bit painful, not to mention software incompatibility.
For a better smartphone experience, the X8 will be a lot better.
However... for a good android smartphone experience, I'd choose none.
Given Sony Ericsson's back story with firmware updates, I wouldn't get an android from them at all..
Android apps are too much version-dependent, and SE is still late to bring an update to Éclair when every other manufacturer has moved to Froyo.
They even ridiculed themselves to the point of launching a phone with a 2 generations old firmware, the X8.
That's like launching a laptop with Windows XP right now.
And no one knows when the updates are coming.. The X10 was launched a year ago there's still no update..
All we know is that they've NEVER updated any android from them, ever.
And looking at their background SE's background with their Symbian smartphones (laughable, to say the least), I wouldn't count too much on their support.
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As a X10 Mini owner, I'd say it depends a lot on its usage.
I got the X10 Mini because I already owned an Omnia HD with great camera and multimedia capabilities and I needed a second device to handle another operator.
The X10 Mini is just that, a great secondary device with great software capabilities because of Android and spectacular performance. It does hold the title of world's smallest smartphone.
However.. the small screen and resolution limits too much the android experience, making some tasks like web browsing a bit painful, not to mention software incompatibility.
For a better smartphone experience, the X8 will be a lot better.
However... for a good android smartphone experience, I'd choose none.
Given Sony Ericsson's back story with firmware updates, I wouldn't get an android from them at all..
Android apps are too much version-dependent, and SE is still late to bring an update to Éclair when every other manufacturer has moved to Froyo.
They even ridiculed themselves to the point of launching a phone with a 2 generations old firmware, the X8.
That's like launching a laptop with Windows XP right now.
And no one knows when the updates are coming.. The X10 was launched a year ago there's still no update..
All we know is that they've NEVER updated any android from them, ever.
And looking at their background SE's background with their Symbian smartphones (laughable, to say the least), I wouldn't count too much on their support.
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Well said..
ToTTenTranz said:
As a X10 Mini owner, I'd say it depends a lot on its usage.
I got the X10 Mini because I already owned an Omnia HD with great camera and multimedia capabilities and I needed a second device to handle another operator.
The X10 Mini is just that, a great secondary device with great software capabilities because of Android and spectacular performance. It does hold the title of world's smallest smartphone.
However.. the small screen and resolution limits too much the android experience, making some tasks like web browsing a bit painful, not to mention software incompatibility.
For a better smartphone experience, the X8 will be a lot better.
However... for a good android smartphone experience, I'd choose none.
Given Sony Ericsson's back story with firmware updates, I wouldn't get an android from them at all..
Android apps are too much version-dependent, and SE is still late to bring an update to Éclair when every other manufacturer has moved to Froyo.
They even ridiculed themselves to the point of launching a phone with a 2 generations old firmware, the X8.
That's like launching a laptop with Windows XP right now.
And no one knows when the updates are coming.. The X10 was launched a year ago there's still no update..
All we know is that they've NEVER updated any android from them, ever.
And looking at their background SE's background with their Symbian smartphones (laughable, to say the least), I wouldn't count too much on their support.
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That is another reason why I was glad they had sold the X10 mini and went for my HTC Hero which already had 2.1-update1 on it and the unlock for the HTC was actually £5.99 via a reputable ebay member express-codes so £120 for HTC Hero w/ 2.1-update1 + £5.99 unlock made for a much better choice instead of £130 for a X10 mini
I have both of them.
And if the camera was the same in the x8 as in the x10 mini pro, I think the x8 was the winner.
It works faster, batterylife is longer, the screens bigger size make a real diffrence.
I use the x10 pro as everyday use and the x8's just for fun, I simply love the x8 with the exeption of the camera.
And about updates, who cares really?
If there dosent come a official realese, im sure there will come one here.
Not something there is giving me a headic
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I have both of them.
And if the camera was the same in the x8 as in the x10 mini pro, I think the x8 was the winner.
It works faster, batterylife is longer, the screens bigger size make a real diffrence.
I use the x10 pro as everyday use and the x8's just for fun, I simply love the x8 with the exeption of the camera.
And about updates, who cares really?
If there dosent come a official realese, im sure there will come one here.
Not something there is giving me a headic
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Well that would be true if SE hadn't installed a locked bootloader, able to boot only their signed roms...
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This WILL be the 2.1 thread. ALL 2.1 related things go here until 2.1 is out!
Anyone know if this will increase the speed over the current 1.6?
I get really sluggish response times on the phone sometimes.
Need o get Whatsapp messenger working as well!
Here guys
This is a benchmark of X10 running on 2.1 according to the site:
X10 2.1 Benachmark
looks like its much faster
Cant wait
Today I'm pesimist... SE UK's Twitter:
Hi everyone, we know you are all waiting for your update. Things are moving fast here, we will have news very soon. Please bear with us.
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So I'm feeling like a silly guy. They're laughing at us... I think will be Halloween onwards...
Finally:
"Today I can confirm that we will start the roll-out of the Android 2.1 based updates for Xperia X10, X10 mini and X10 mini pro now this coming Sunday. The roll out will start in the evening European time"
http://blogs.sonyericsson.com/products/2010/10/
seriously speaking, being an x10 mini pro user,
and sort of played with other android 2.1 and 2.2 phones around..
i kinda feel that my x10 mini pro is much smoother than the rest..
which is why i cant wait for 2.1 to come out!!
vippie said:
Finally:
"Today I can confirm that we will start the roll-out of the Android 2.1 based updates for Xperia X10, X10 mini and X10 mini pro now this coming Sunday. The roll out will start in the evening European time"
http://blogs.sonyericsson.com/products/2010/10/
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Xperia™ X10 update to Android 2.1 in Q4 2010
http://blogs.sonyericsson.com/devel...xperia™-x10-update-to-android-2-1-in-q4-2010/
Same blog same people same lack of sense of time.
2.1 by Sunday eve
This is great news
See here
X10 update by Sunday
evolutioner said:
seriously speaking, being an x10 mini pro user,
and sort of played with other android 2.1 and 2.2 phones around..
i kinda feel that my x10 mini pro is much smoother than the rest..
which is why i cant wait for 2.1 to come out!!
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I want 2.1 because it will solve the battery problem.
vlissine said:
Xperia™ X10 update to Android 2.1 in Q4 2010
http://blogs.sonyericsson.com/devel...xperia™-x10-update-to-android-2-1-in-q4-2010/
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Uhm, that's a post from the 5th of May .
The news for release on sunday is from today.
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Uhm, that's a post from the 5th of May .
The news for release on sunday is from today.
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But it is still valid. Aside from a small Scandinavian community, rest of the world will receive the upgrade in Q4 (November, December). Besides despite their assurance that the whole X10 family will get upgrade, what i read in scandinavian forums is that so far only X10 and not mini and mini pro are bing upgrades. So realistically we can expect UK unbranded in the middle of November, as I always said.
sorry
Wrong link
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Here is the fixed one:
X10 2.1 Software Update 2
Here is where i saw it.
Xperiax10.net X10 update SUnday release Nordic first
would the same rooting instructions for 1.6 work on 2.1?
so..what can we expect from 2.1 for xperia mini..?..bluetooth is the main benefit i think
what about battery life?or anything else ..
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But it is still valid. Aside from a small Scandinavian community, rest of the world will receive the upgrade in Q4 (November, December). Besides despite their assurance that the whole X10 family will get upgrade, what i read in scandinavian forums is that so far only X10 and not mini and mini pro are bing upgrades. So realistically we can expect UK unbranded in the middle of November, as I always said.
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No it's not valid because a new statement came out today. New statement means the old one is not valid anymore. I don't care about "small Scandinavian communities", because the are wrong.
And you are wrong too, because the Update will come for ALL X10 including Mini and Mini Pro.
Read this:
Today I can confirm that we will start the roll-out of the Android 2.1 based updates for Xperia X10, X10 mini and X10 mini pro now this coming Sunday. The roll out will start in the evening European time.
So far I have received confirmation that the generic kits for the Nordic countries will be the very first ones out on Sunday evening and then there will be more kits coming already during Monday and then the roll-out will continue throughout the month of November.
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The main improvements are:
Social Phonebook
30% increase in Battery life
Blutooth file transfers
Improved speed(Dunno what it means)
tejagamer said:
The main improvements are:
Social Phonebook
30% increase in Battery life
Blutooth file transfers
Improved speed(Dunno what it means)
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And hopefully bluetooth head set compatibility, as I have heard that very few were compatible with this phone.
I sure hope that they will include some new radio, as I am unable to see wifi networks at channel 13, plus the draft N would be nice too.
PS: I hope that the battery increase is true, 30% is a huge increase just from an update.
Now we just need a bit more patience , GOD I need to buy some on eBay ASAP, hehe
Latest update is that the 2.1 will be release from Sunday Evening European time. Nordic countries get the first cut. Release will be in phased approach.
read http://blogs.sonyericsson.com/products/ dated 29 Oct 2010.
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Johev said:
And hopefully bluetooth head set compatibility, as I have heard that very few were compatible with this phone.
I sure hope that they will include some new radio, as I am unable to see wifi networks at channel 13, plus the draft N would be nice too.
PS: I hope that the battery increase is true, 30% is a huge increase just from an update.
Now we just need a bit more patience , GOD I need to buy some on eBay ASAP, hehe
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at the beginning of a smartphone development and before optimizing the software the battery can only last 30 minutes so software has a much to do to the battery life ,so 30% is possible .but where did you get this 30% statement?
also wondering since the x8's software is certified before the x10 mini on ptcrb and there exactly the same software versions,why x8's 2.1 is later this year?. the three phone mini/pro/x8 are identical in terms of software.
Hi every one.
I'm on a decision whether to lose the future on SE android Phones or gain it on other Android phones like Samsung, HTC or Motorola via their OS Updates.
I think ARC,Pro,Neo and play will have the same destiny like X10 and after sometime there will be no OS updates.
Thank the xda developers to port newer ROMs to x10 but one of the important parts of x10 never worked fully till now and that is its CAMERA!!!!!
Now, What's your Opinion about the Future of SE Smart Phones?
I apologize for my poor English
behrad_m said:
Hi every one.
I'm on a decision whether to lose the future on SE android Phones or gain it on other Android phones like Samsung, HTC or Motorola via their OS Updates.
I think ARC,Pro,Neo and play will have the same destiny like X10 and after sometime there will be no OS updates.
Thank the xda developers to port newer ROMs to x10 but one of the important parts of x10 never worked fully till now and that is its CAMERA!!!!!
Now, What's your Opinion about the Future of SE Smart Phones?
I apologize for my poor English
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I think your wrong. SE have learned there leason about being late with OS updates and there new devices will be a different story than the X10 was.
As for decisions, you gotta make that yourself....whatever you think will make you happy.
I, myself will be getting the Arc....and that will most probably be my last android device....im going to move on over to WP7 soon enough. Gotta wait and see what Nokia has in store for it.
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I have tested HTC hd7 for a week and it got some advantages but i think android will be more powerfull than WP7. Somehow i hope SE keep supporting its new phones. The repetition of this mistake will cause losing customers and suffer the lovers.
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I think your wrong. SE have learned there leason about being late with OS updates and there new devices will be a different story than the X10 was.
As for decisions, you gotta make that yourself....whatever you think will make you happy.
I, myself will be getting the Arc....and that will most probably be my last android device....im going to move on over to WP7 soon enough. Gotta wait and see what Nokia has in store for it.
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Actually that depends, no company would go updating their phones all the way to the latest firmware update, like X10 they'll probably give 1-2 major firmware updates to the Arc few months after the firmware is released by Google, then leave it and release new phones. Reason why I think so is because from my point of view, SE is all about visual perfection, if the UI doesn't look good they'll tweak it till they're happy (thus the delay).
I myself will wait for Google's next Nexus (if any), mainly because there are more support there than any other android phones.
I like Sony Ericsson. They make good looking hardware. my contract ends in about a year, so i'll probs get to get the next lot
NOT EVER SONY (any product period)
Motorola Atrix as soon as I can get my hands on it AND the dock station. Experience with the Xperia left me never willing to own or purchase another Sony product EVER, in fact I sold my PS3 since owning it as the IBM Cell processor is no longer useful, for the same reasons the entire Xperia line from x1 to Play.. DRM junk!
These guys have even been sued over the crap, sued themselves over the subject and continue to underwhelm and disappoint. Never again Mr Sony!
Innovation ended with the Walkman. Sony have no vision or ability to grasp open source software and have no place in Android.
my contract is not up for another year...even though i like sony unsure if i will get another one or not - and not because of all the broken promises etc
i am not an "sony fan" or "Nokia fan" etc...i will see what phones are out at the time and see whats best
Lol I love when people say sony learned their lesson... If they did then why not fix their mistake and upgrade x10 once more before ditching it? Isn't fixing your mistake part of learning your lesson? I know I'm going to get a lot of lame excuses in response to this as usual...
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Lol I love when people say sony learned their lesson... If they did then why not suz their mistake and upgrade x10 once more before ditching it? Isn't fixing your mistake part of learning your lesson? I know I'm going to get a lot of lame excuses in response to this as usual...
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Man, you are persistent
I think we all know by now, you DON'T like the X10 and possibly the rest of the Sony Ericsson product line. And that's okay
javagreen said:
Man, you are persistent
I think we all know by now, you DON'T like the X10 and possibly the rest of the Sony Ericsson product line. And that's okay
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I never once said I didn't like the x10 ever.. I love it. I just don't like sony's lack if support and the way they're handling this situation...
hahaha for me i like the design of ****ing SE but the way they leave the OS ?ahh im forwarding to last SE of ARc if they gonna leave again .this is the last sE to buy with... curently X10 user.. im luky the XDA or developers are here to felp us lol
Liked the x10, would buy another Android SE only If x10 would get further upgrades at least till HW would be capable to handle it otherwise No way.
just because my x10 is sim unlocked imma kep using it for a while
but my next option could be an optimus 3d or an inspire 4g or an atrix (although motoblur is not of my likes)
still will be with android cause wp7 is kinda buggy from what I read xD
there might be a chance of getting an arc just cause it looks so damn fancy but will depend on the money XD
behrad_m said:
Hi every one.
I'm on a decision whether to lose the future on SE android Phones or gain it on other Android phones like Samsung, HTC or Motorola via their OS Updates.
I think ARC,Pro,Neo and play will have the same destiny like X10 and after sometime there will be no OS updates.
Thank the xda developers to port newer ROMs to x10 but one of the important parts of x10 never worked fully till now and that is its CAMERA!!!!!
Now, What's your Opinion about the Future of SE Smart Phones?
I apologize for my poor English
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Decisons are best made on informed choice. Yes the experience with SE Android debut was (is) frustrating. They could have handled issues with updates better but if their products (software side especially) then I will use my head as well as my heart. Of course SE should realise if you treat your clients shabbily, you drive them into your competitors embrace!
When i bought the x10 i thought that SE may have done the right thing..
But after a year of fighting and arguing SE has now decided to repair my phone.
I am not going to be robbed again, the x10 is no marvel
and yes SE may have sorted out their firmware distribution,
they are still no longer making quality hardware!
SE used the x10 product line and clever marketing to smear the
horridly planned and badly designed phones on the un-expecting public.
So in my eyes... they fail and this will be the last SE and SONY product i buy.
Sony and SE is taking the piss for the cash.
I think the ARC,NEO,PRO & PLAY = crap.. the hardware is already outdated!
Plus sony loves to remove stuff from the firmware in consoles and devices.
Screw them in the ear.
Money hungry pigs.
behrad_m said:
Hi every one.
I'm on a decision whether to lose the future on SE android Phones or gain it on other Android phones like Samsung, HTC or Motorola via their OS Updates.
I think ARC,Pro,Neo and play will have the same destiny like X10 and after sometime there will be no OS updates.
Thank the xda developers to port newer ROMs to x10 but one of the important parts of x10 never worked fully till now and that is its CAMERA!!!!!
Now, What's your Opinion about the Future of SE Smart Phones?
I apologize for my poor English
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Actually, X10 is not too bad, just no more OS update. For me, I wouldn't like to spend too much on phone so I'm going to stick a while with X10.
But if u would preferred to get latest firmware all the time and have budget, I reckon HTC.
Cheers.
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Maybe if i find a used arc that cost around 300$ i'll get one.... otherwise ... a brand new galaxy 2 or desire HD
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blisslove said:
Actually, X10 is not too bad, just no more OS update. For me, I wouldn't like to spend too much on phone so I'm going to stick a while with X10.
But if u would preferred to get latest firmware all the time and have budget, I reckon HTC.
Cheers.
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As you know, The usage of these Smart phones depends on their OS, because of their software improvements. for new apps you will need android 2.2 or 2.3 or higher and then our x10s will be outdated but if you have galaxy s you will have all official advantages of new androids. I think firmware upgrades are free.
I posted several months ago that if SE stuck the X10 on 2.1 then there was like a 5% chance that I would go with another SE (65% chance if 2.2, 99% for 2.3). Considering that they've stuck the X10 on 2.1 (cmon, almost all new system type apps require 2.2 like gmail and all the bug fixes 2.2 brings) it's very unlikely. I may do the Optimus 2X... camera looks decent.
And for those that say SE has learned their lesson, I'm calling BS.
They've done this with EVERY other smartphone they've released.
They release a smartphone with a lot of promises and statements of the lessons they've learned from past smartphones ONLY to do the same thing.
Vivaz, Vivaz Pro, Satio, Xperia X1, Xperia X2, G700, G900, etc.
'Time flows like a river and history repeats' -some quote...
Well, i have always been a fan of SE, and i would still buy their phones, but the way they handled/are handling the x10 issues has made me consider other phones like samsung or htc.
If you want updates to your phone, you shouldn't stay with SE, because as they said about the x10 "We have decided to not step up beyond 2.1 since we believe that 2.2 won't enhance the user experience enough."
and that's gonna happen again.
I thought we could create a thread dedicated to the upcoming new android version regarding the Xperia mini/mini pro and Ray.
Maybe here we could gather information about release dates, user interface thoughts and ideas, features etc.
Sounds like a good idea?
Peace
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I somehow think that Sony might pull a "We believe our stock 2.3 rom is the best ever. We see no reason to update" like they did with their older phones, and save it for their 2012 range.
Yeah possible, but then again they have stated that all the 2011 models will get ICS, and hopefully they have learned from the disaster with the X10.
But after spending some time searching the forums I'm starting to think that your scenario is pretty possible, sadly...
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Yes, I think the same My second phone is x10 mini pro and SE end support his on Android 2.1. Reason? Thats the best for this hardware. Now I have alternative rom an android 2.3.7 and it work faster like stock rom 2.1 Thanks for devalopers from xda.
hopefully
if they dont release it for 2011 xperias , hopefully the epic cool devs here will, as a custom rom
i'm an x8 user and they had me stuck on 2.1 and if they ever do this again to me ( i plan to get the xperia mini pro ), idk then next time i'm buying a phone i will consider that SE is invisible and have no existence in planet earth anymore lol , regardless of what so ever "super cool" looking handsets they might have available at the time......
if you like Android 4.0 theme, you can use
ICS Launcher
https://market.android.com/details?id=mobi.SyndicateApps.ICSv2
it's free app
I guess they put out a statement on it, pretty vague. But Engadget interprets as SE confirming ICS
http://www.engadget.com/2011/10/20/sony-ericsson-bringing-ice-cream-sandwich-to-xperia-handsets/
barrist said:
I guess they put out a statement on it, pretty vague. But Engadget interprets as SE confirming ICS
http://www.engadget.com/2011/10/20/sony-ericsson-bringing-ice-cream-sandwich-to-xperia-handsets/
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I'm quite confident that it will come, eventually. Don't hold your breath on when exactly that will be, though I'm sure CM will beat them to it.
SE firmwares are somewhat backward compared to firmwares provided by samsung or htc in their devices. (eg. No smart dialing in my mini pro). And the timescape UI lacks many features (I don't need five home screens, but can't change it). I hope they will improve such minor details in forthcoming updates.
First they leave us at 2.1... Then they upgrade X10 to 2.3, but stil leaves us at 2.1... THEN they upgrade all the newer ones to 4.0, but still leaving us at 2.1 We Deserve a upgrade to atleast Froyo!...
Please, SE, Try Upgrading our Minis/Mini pros to 2.3 or at least 2.2...
Link to original article at Danish TV2 Beep (Translated) http://translate.google.com/transla.../beep.tv2.dk/entry.php/id-411468.html&act=url
When they say 18 Years after Launch of ICS, they mean a half year (@#$! you Google Translate )
****throws something at the wall****
Well.. We already have good and stable 2.3 ROMs for our phones, most thanks to nobodyAtall (Mini) and Slade87 (Mini Pro)
Yeah custom roms are good. Hopefully we can get a ICS port for our MP's
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SE lags...
ServerBoost100 said:
First they leave us at 2.1... Then they upgrade X10 to 2.3, but stil leaves us at 2.1... THEN they upgrade all the newer ones to 4.0, but still leaving us at 2.1 We Deserve a upgrade to atleast Froyo!...
Please, SE, Try Upgrading our Minis/Mini pros to 2.3 or at least 2.2...
Link to original article at Danish TV2 Beep (Translated) http://translate.google.com/transla.../beep.tv2.dk/entry.php/id-411468.html&act=url
When they say 18 Years after Launch of ICS, they mean a half year (@#$! you Google Translate )
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I wouldn't count on SE upgrading our phones anymore. Even the Cyanogenmod team was not able to release a properly working 2.3 ROM for our phones
I love to see when SE would actually do that.
Maybe when the new xperia models will be getting ICS around the time they are already short of their first year's?
The nexus one not getting ics is worrying me. Google should know Android the best, yet they can't make an ics update for the nexus one. And what is our hardware compared to the nexus one?.sure, it could be for marketing reasons to get people to upgrade. But I'm still worried.
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long life to CM and port, respect to all devs....about sonyericsson....no coments ¬¬
Which is why i am wondering if i should change phone. Maybe hand it in at Telenor DK and get about $200 for it.
get a new phone guys, x10 is so 2008 lol, i bought the new mini pro & lovign it..
royalbloodvi said:
get a new phone guys, x10 is so 2008 lol, i bought the new mini pro & lovign it..
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The Xperia X10 MINI and MINI PRO came out last year. And Sony Ericsson say they support officially their phones 2 years after purchase. We are not talking about the X10. And we don't care you bought a new phone to come and rub it in our faces.
While development is still active for our devices I see no reason to upgrade.
I'd say give it a few months and we may see a port for our devices.
And if not then I'm not fussed' having 2.3 is a privalige itself to say SE support only 2.1