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I've noticed that when using TeleNav / ATT Navigator, my battery doesn't charge.
I do a soft reset and stop using GPS, the battery begins to charge.
This has happened with several Roms, so this leads me to believe that it's an equipment issue. I don't know if I'm alone with this issue.
Something like this is easy to overlook. The only reason I noticed is because I had to use GPS a lot more than usual and my battery went out while it was supposed to be charging.
If you're using any type of GPS, take a look. If you're good or not, just state what you use.
Thanks.
Mine will charge when I am using Garmin or GoogleMaps.... I have noticed that if the phone gets to warm it will still discharge even if it is plugged in. Keep an eye on the temperature of your phone!
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JFlitt
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I have noticed that if the phone gets to warm it will still discharge even if it is plugged in.
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I've got my phone mounted on a spare belt clip i attached to my dashboard and ive noticed the same thing. there comes a time after it's been charging for a while when the light stops "breathing" but the battery is not fully charged. As far as GPS, i figured it wasted battery faster than it could charge, since i also have bt and the display stays on. I've been meaning to try it with an A/C charger in the car instead of the 12VDC. I'll let you know if theres any difference.
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I noticed the HEAT, my TILT did the same thing but it charged. The only issue I had with the TILT is when the battery is under 30%, I would have pull out the battery before it decided to charge.
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I'm using a mount also (15'' Gooseneck non-winshield). It starts out charging and then stops. I'll try with an AC adapter also just to see what happens.
There maybe something to this GPS & Charging......
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I have the Ac charger in my car and it works wonders. If I run more than three things at once then it will stop charging. All it take is a soft reset. Then all is well. As most said keep an eye on the temp. BTW I am using Energy's 2.0 040509 build with TomTom 7.915(9196)
Thanks Max, I figured the AC Charger would be better, it always charged very quickly at home.
Noticed the same thing on a six hour car trip. I use a gooseneck windshield mount and have Garmin XT and bluetooth to the stereo all the time. After a couple hundred miles it stopped charging and the backlight goes off, making it a pain in the ass for looking at the GPS screen, any suggestions? are u using a ac adapter and than plugging in your home charger? BTW am using an old Motorola car charger from the early RZR days.
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Noticed the same thing on a six hour car trip. I use a gooseneck windshield mount and have Garmin XT and bluetooth to the stereo all the time. After a couple hundred miles it stopped charging and the backlight goes off, making it a pain in the ass for looking at the GPS screen, any suggestions? are u using a ac adapter and than plugging in your home charger? BTW am using an old Motorola car charger from the early RZR days.
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No difference if you use a 12v or a 110v charger.
The TP warms up and at a certain temperature shuts off the charging so it will not extra over heat.
I place my TP where the AC can cool it down and since then - it will charge for hours.
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No difference if you use a 12v or a 110v charger.
The TP warms up and at a certain temperature shuts off the charging so it will not extra over heat.
I place my TP where the AC can cool it down and since then - it will charge for hours.
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That's freaking hilarious. I do the same thing. I notices my Fuze would stop charging when plugged into my car charger if it got too hot, so I simply positioned it where my AC would hit it. Now I don't have that problem anymore.
I tried the AC charger in the car....same thing.
Tried Google Maps also. Basically when I use GPS, charging stops when the device got warm. My device didn't take long to get warm....about 2 minutes.
There's gotta be away around this other than placing it on the air vents. The TILT performed much better with GPS.
my results
finally got a good long run with gps on I-95 and this is what I found:
1. According to tBattery, the 110V charger and the 12VDC charger were the same as far as charge being + 100 with the gps on, so the battery would still be charged if gps is running with the screen almost full brightness, BT on and a data connection.
2. Also according to tBattery, the temperature got to above 46 degrees when I noticed the phone was no longer charging, whereas at home it rarely gets over 33 degrees. The current showed more than 300 negative under these conditions.
SO technically, once the phone stops charging due to temperature, the GPS with screen full on and all the rest tend to drain the battery. Even if the phone is plugged in to the charger. If only it would stop charging the battery but at least take power for the device from the charger, that would have been good.
So I'm going to reposition the device on my dash to where the AC vents can hit it as others have done!
I have two different chargers in my car. The one that will charge my touch pro while running GPS navigation is 5V/1A. The one, that will not charge while navigating has 5V/500mA (which is max. USB-power according to the specs).
Since TP's GPS consumes approximately 500mA (I've read that somewhere on the internet), there will not be enough power to charge. Keep an eye on this.
I went on a 1Hr trip....
AC Adapter-Got hot in about 8 minutes...stop charging, reset needed
Cig Adapter-Got hot in about 8 minutes also...stop charging, reset needed
Aimed the AC on the device...Device charged the whole trip.
Bottom line....Keep it cool!
Lithium Ion batteries in devices all do this as far as I know. I remember back when I used my Dell Axim x51v for navigation is when I found this out for the first time. It would sit in direct sunlight on my dash and quit charging within about 5 minutes of use. One time during the winter I noticed when I didn't turn my heater on that it charged for much longer. Then the light bulb went off in my brain.
Same thing went for my Q9H, Tilt, and now Fuze. A lil air from the vent helps a lot, and keeping it out of the sunlight is an even better option.
Today I took my DNA for a spin using google maps. And to power the beast I used a 2000mA momax charger. To my surprise halfway through the trip I noticed my battery level had halved. I remember seeing the charging icon on the battery so thought ok its charging it.
But when we arrived after a 45 mintue drive i lost over 50% battery It seemed it wasn't charging after all. The phone was extremely hot
Did it get too hot possibly while driving and stop the battery from charging as a thermal safe guard from overheating? I'm on the stock kernel. Anyone had this issues like this? And does anyone know the MA rating of the official DNA charger? I'm in New Zealand so i cant just pick up the official charger or anything like that.
If i cant use the GPS without the phone charging it will make it unuseable on long trips
Edit: Problem found, phones gets too hot on the dash and running GPS it will throttle and not allow the battery to charge. Thumbs down to HTC making a phone with GPS that can't be used for more than 20 minutes or your phone overheats.
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Today I took my DNA for a spin using google maps. And to power the beast I used a 2000mA momax charger. To my surprise halfway through the trip I noticed my battery level had halved. I remember seeing the charging icon on the battery so thought ok its charging it.
But when we arrived after a 45 mintue drive i lost over 50% battery It seemed it wasn't charging after all. The phone was extremely hot
Did it get too hot possibly while driving and stop the battery from charging as a thermal safe guard from overheating? I'm on the stock kernel. Anyone had this issues like this? And does anyone know the MA rating of the official DNA charger? I'm in New Zealand so i cant just pick up the official charger or anything like that.
If i cant use the GPS without the phone charging it will make it unuseable on long trips
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the rating on the HTC charger is 1000mah.. one thing i have noticed that some higher MAH chargers will actually cause the phone to charge in "USB" mode.. when you plug that charger in check the battery settings screen and at the top it should say charging AC or USB.. if it says USB then that is likely your problem since USB charging mode is much slower than AC charging mode.
Awesome tip. Never knew that, thanks!
Wow thanks very useful info indeed. I think i might be over doing it and making it overheat. I will try a 1000mAh charger in a few days and see if that solves the issues!
So the problem doesn't lie with the actual mA output of the charger, but with the way the charger is physically pinned out. On "fast" chargers, that is, chargers that can deliver more than 500mA of current, the center two data pins, D+ and D- are shorted. This short tells the phone that it's plugged into a dummy charger and allows it to draw more current (I believe the DNA can draw a max of 1 amp when in AC or fast charge mode). In a computer USB port, these two pins obviously aren't shorted as they are the data pins. Without the short being present, the phone assumes it is plugged into a computer where USB 2.0 specifications allow for a maximum of 500mA of current draw, so the phone software limits the charging rate to 500mA. The flaw in many aftermarket chargers, even the super high power ones, is they omit shorting the center two pins, resulting in the phone only allowing 500mA of current draw. This is a problem with both car chargers and some home chargers, especially the multi-port chargers designed for iPads and smartphones. Apple uses a different pinout for their high speed charging that isn't as simple as shorting the two data pins, so many Apple branded or "compatible" chargers don't put Android devices into fast charge mode.
For a car charger, my personal favorite is this Motorola one from Amazon. It provides up to 950mA of current, is genuine Motorola OEM so it's built well, and best of all is only $5 with free shipping if you have Amazon Prime. The only drawback is the LED is kinda bright and annoying, but I keep it in the outlet inside the center console so I never see it. http://www.amazon.com/Motorola-Vehicle-Adapter-micro-USB-Charger/dp/B000S5Q9CA/ref=sr_1_1?s=wireless&ie=UTF8&qid=1356666975&sr=1-1&keywords=spn5400
Yeah I use that charger too. Works well. I recently bought a dual USB output one that claims it puts out 1amp..but my phone shows USB mode. Is it only putting out 500 then?
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Your phone is only drawing 500... I have a qmadix 2 amp micro usb with an extra usb port and it puts out plenty of power to charge 2 phones while using gps and listening to music.
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Thanks for the info, still not luck for me. I brought a brand name 1 amp charger and used it again. It charges well to begin with. But after about 10 minutes the notification LED in the phone will start to flash .... Then it seems my DNA is not charging at all. Status bar tells me in the beginning it was not on USB charge. After the 10 minutes no charging detected at all. Its as if the droid disables charging.
I will check the cable too again and see if that was the issue. It might be the charger and or cable. But the first charger charged my Note II without any issues and fast. It never lost battery %
And again my DNA was scorching hot. Which seems to me more of an a throttling thermal issue. Its reaches xx temp and charging is disabled. Does the flashing led mean something? It was a sunny day and its summer here in New Zealand so the droid just got too hot maybe? Being black on the car dash in the sun cant help it.
I love this phone, and have my note II up for sale but if i cant fix this issue it seems GPS and Nav is a no go for me. Which is not good. I travel a lot.
Update,
I did some further testing and the news is bad I used my standard HTC DNA charger, and tried to repeat the conditions. Got my phone hot and low and behold. On the charger it will stop charging once the phone gets too hot. It will flash a green light, then orange, and repeat.
in other words if you want to use this phone in summer on your dash as a GPS you might want to think about running the A/C on it at all times
Can other please test this? Maybe i just have a faulty CPU, but i think its a built in thermal safetly feature once the CPU gets too hot it will not allow you to charge it. So in other words if you want to use this phone in summer with sunlight on your dash as a Nav/GPS think again ;(
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Update,
I did some further testing and the news is bad I used my standard HTC DNA charger, and tried to repeat the conditions. Got my phone hot and low and behold. On the charger it will stop charging once the phone gets too hot. It will flash a green light, then orange, and repeat.
in other words if you want to use this phone in summer on your dash as a GPS you might want to think about running the A/C on it at all times
Can other please test this? Maybe i just have a faulty CPU, but i think its a built in thermal safetly feature once the CPU gets too hot it will not allow you to charge it. So in other words if you want to use this phone in summer with sunlight on your dash as a Nav/GPS think again ;(
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This sounds right to me. My last 2 devices had the exact same issue when heating up. I do believe that fast charging really heats up the battery, so once it hits a threshold, it stops drawing power in order to cool off. Don't want a battery exploding in your phone.
The GPS radio can sometimes draw a bit of power, though it is much less on newer phones.
I digress, I really do think that in most cases, heat is the issue.
Its a very sad state of affairs, I cant use this phone as satnav / GPS without loosing a lot of battery life. Seems its only good for winter GPS when used on the dash in the sun of summer it will just over heat and not charge. Very poor if you ask me.
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Its a very sad state of affairs, I cant use this phone as satnav / GPS without loosing a lot of battery life. Seems its only good for winter GPS when used on the dash in the sun of summer it will just over heat and not charge. Very poor if you ask me.
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Try testing your phone at 'room temperature' (75 F, 30C), if your phone overheats using the GPS in this case, then you should return the phone because it is not normal.
If it is overheating on a hot dash board, ALL of my phones have done that. You can try blasting the wind shield vents to counteract the heat.
The DNA is normally great, but either your expectations are a tad unrealistic or your phone needs to be swapped.
A solution would be to mount it in a way that isn't in direct sunlight, like using one of those vent-mounted adapters. Then if it got hot, you could put the air on and it would cool it down.
Another option would be to either turn the brightness down, or to completely turn off the display, unless of course you have no idea where you are, and need more than just the audible directions.
But really, it sounds to me like your specific phone is just prone to overheating, and needs to go back. I haven't had any temperature-related functional issues at all.
Sure, it's gotten warm. But it's never failed me as a result of being too hot.
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Well its summer here and its not taking the suns heat and being black doesn't help. I will see if I can move its position or place it over the A/c vent of the windscreen.
Wait till summer in the U.S and you will see more threads like these i think. I only comment its poor because no other phone of mine has done this in the past. Maybe mine is faulty.
Used mine for over three hours (one-way) using GPS/Maps full blown with no trouble or heat at all. I was also texting, surfing, playing games and talking on the phone at various times and had to plug in after awhile using the usual car charger. I don't like to get below 50% if I don't have to. Anyway, no trouble on the way there and no trouble on the way back.
HTC has always had the best gps radios I've ever used. My wife's GS3 still can't get as good, fast, and pinpoint lock as my DNA (or my Rezound for that matter).
As always, YMMV.
No offense man, but who the hell leaves their phone in the sun and expects it not to overheat? haven't you ever left your phone in the car in the summer and come back to a red triangle or a high temperature sign?
The key to keeping your electronics alive is to keep them cool. Your phone is just like your computer...you try to keep the temperatures as low as possible at all times.
I have a generic cigarette lighter adapter I got off ebay. I used my the google gps on my phone to a store in CT for the wife and then a trip to Boston, well over 3 hours worth of continued GPS use. When I unplugged the phone when we parked in the garage I had a full battery and the phone didn't appear to be any warmer than playing a regular game.
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Well its summer here and its not taking the suns heat and being black doesn't help. I will see if I can move its position or place it over the A/c vent of the windscreen.
Wait till summer in the U.S and you will see more threads like these i think. I only comment its poor because no other phone of mine has done this in the past. Maybe mine is faulty.
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That's how every phone works. If you are using it in a hot environment and in direct sunlight it will try to cool itself down by stopping charging.
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Hendrickson said:
Well its summer here and its not taking the suns heat and being black doesn't help. I will see if I can move its position or place it over the A/c vent of the windscreen.
Wait till summer in the U.S and you will see more threads like these i think. I only comment its poor because no other phone of mine has done this in the past. Maybe mine is faulty.
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Sorry bud, you cannot expect to leave your phone on the dash in direct sun, while using GPS AND charging and not have less than optimum results. You are KILLING the efficiency of your battery by allowing it to overheat continuously. Keep it cool man!
People will find anything to complain about...
I just got the phone today, and for the most part the phone has been great.
I got it on 11b, and was able to downgrade it to 10c. I rooted it with Stump, and used Bump! to install TWRP. I used Xposed framework, G3 Tweaksbox, Titanium Backup (a lot of bloatware disabled), and root explorer.
The phone is lag-free after some tweaks and all.
Though, one thing that has been bothering me is the overheating.
At first I did disabled Thermal Daemon Mitigation, then realize this was the reason for most of it.
Next, I reenabled it and it fixed the very hot phone (which caused my phone to constantly turn on and off. Like, it would unlock and turn off.)
I let the phone sit, and it got cold. I placed the battery back in, and used it like normal.
I plugged the charger that came in with the phone. When it was connected via PC, the wire did not heat up. I plugged it into the wall charger, and into the outlet. The adapter became VERY hot, as well as the ends of the cable.
I used my old charger (one I bought on Amazon, it's a pretty new and very good charger) and a different wall adapter. The wire and adapter are fine, yet the phone still runs warm.
I disabled most of the bloatware, and the only app I have that takes up a lot of up power and resources (though it's nothing to the G3) is Facebook.
Due to process of elimination, it cannot be the charger. So it's obviously the phone.
I knew it was prone to overheating (more than over flagship devices (apparently) at least), but is it supposed to run this warm when on WiFi? Seems abnormal.
It could be that I am not used to it.
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The original phone charger runs VERY hot at the tips to the cable and the charging block does at well. I changed them.
(Even when not on the charger.)
The phone itself is generally warm, far more than most phones I've used.
Is my device defective, or is this normal for this device?
Some heat worse than others. Mine gets quite warm while playing Ingress, for example. The heatsink on the G3's is reportedly horrible generally.
It might be possible to disassemble the phone and apply heat sink paste or something to help dissipate heat better, but I am not sure.
Also, yours might really be defective.
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Load custom kernel undervolt a bit!
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At first I did disabled Thermal Daemon Mitigation, then realize this was the reason for most of it.
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You may have damaged something. Doing this allows the thermal sensors to reach 120 degrees Celsius and then the phone is supposed to shut down.
Mine gets warm, not hot, when charging. I do notice it charges fast, faster than other phones I've had, when connected to the outlet charger. The outlet charger I have is bigger than most that I've seen. I'm wondering if it's the fast charging that causes this?
Does anyone else think the G3 chargers faster when using a wall outlet than most other phones?
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Mine gets warm, not hot, when charging. I do notice it charges fast, faster than other phones I've had, when connected to the outlet charger. The outlet charger I have is bigger than most that I've seen. I'm wondering if it's the fast charging that causes this?
Does anyone else think the G3 chargers faster when using a wall outlet than most other phones?
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I don't know what happened, but the phone is fine now.
It gets warm, but I am going to ahead that is normal for this phone.
As for the outlet charger, I just use the USB cable to my PC and I haven't had any issues.
The first day I had it, it took forever to charge (didn't use the LG cable), but now it charges pretty fast and only gets warm!
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I don't know what happened, but the phone is fine now.
It gets warm, but I am going to ahead that is normal for this phone.
As for the outlet charger, I just use the USB cable to my PC and I haven't had any issues.
The first day I had it, it took forever to charge (didn't use the LG cable), but now it charges pretty fast and only gets warm!
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That's good. Mine gets warm just charging, not hot as I stated. However, if plugged in and I start playing a game or something, then it gets warmer, but not scalding hot. Of course, that's if I'm playing the game for a long time.
I still think the wall charger must be charge it quicker than on the PC, but yes, I've also noticed hooked up to the PC it charges PDQ. I like that!
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Had SkyDragon's custom kernel since I basically got the phone, so yeah.
It was thermal daemon being changed, reverting it fixed most of the issues.
The phone just gets warm, I guess.
Seems normal.
I have an Infinix Note 2 (X600)that have some charging issues
when i charge the phone i usually need to jiggle the cable a little bit to get the power flowing, but lately it gets much worse. when charging my phone need a lot of time to charge. The charger is not the original phone charger, it's a spare samsung charger i found lying around in the house. its usually works fine up until now. I checked the charging power in ampere app and i found that the charger lose charging power slowly over time. for example the initial charge rate is 900ma , the charge rate slowly decaying -10ma /5-10 second to a point where the charge rate hit 0ma. i could leave the phone overnight but instead of charging the phone it reduce the phone battery instead.
My initial thought that it's because the faulty charging port because i game while charging and janked it fairly often. and ideas of what causes my problem or a fix ?
second question: is charging ports of micro usb android is all the same ? or it's different per phone model, cus im thinking to get the port replaced
Long story short. Use the manufacturer recommend,if not the original.
Yes they will mostly work, but when you take the cost of the device into account....
There should be information on this within the website for the smartphone etc.
Ironically enough, my battery died while I was typing this and I was running a GSAM bat test using always the original charger.
In logics term's, you can always start a car with a much cheaper battery, but when you're taking into account of longevity over quality and anything else you can throw at it, all roads have intersections...
Please email the manufacturer, things not the 90s so you will get better support [emoji12]
In no way am I to be taken seriously at ehm 4am.. and there's the bottom of the barrel answer from my beloved XDA
Never seen this before so thought I'd post and see if anyone else has this.
I work delivering groceries and they use iPhones for everything they do. They provide a chargers but since people are dishonest and steal them, the company buys more off brand chargers, the problem is they are el-cheapo chargers that only slow charge ie: trickle charge.
So I noticed this weekend my phone was draining battery while using google maps and GPS while plugged in. I found this quite odd because for near 2 yrs I've never had an issue while it's plugged in, it would hit 100% and stay there.
This time I noticed it was draining and also noticed a couple days after that, when I would plug in now, it told me it was charging, ie: slow charge and not the normal fast charging.
Even with my Anker charger in my car it did this.
Well last night I plugged into the iq side and it said charging, then I plugged into the 3.0 side and it then read fast charging.
Here's where it gets odd. Now that I have used the 3.0 side of the charger it reads fast charging, even using the iq side of the charger it reads fast charging, where just an hour before that same port was reading as just charging/slow charge, It's like the 3.0 kicked it out of slow charge mode or something.
So, that got me thinking...... Is it possible that a phone can get stuck in slow charge mode some how?
Has anyone else experienced this?
I now do not have an issue with it draining like before, so it has me wondering what's going on, why was it stuck in a seemingly slow charge only mode no matter what I did up until the 3.0 quick charge.
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I now do not have an issue with it draining like before, so it has me wondering what's going on, why was it stuck in a seemingly slow charge only mode no matter what I did up until the 3.0 quick charge.
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We have QuickCharge capability so no reason to use iPhone side of the charging port.
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We have QuickCharge capability so no reason to use iPhone side of the charging port.
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Right, this was an off brand I had used... Wasn't the typical iPhone charger, more a $1 cheapy charger, and most of those are 1.5 charging ports which is slow charge.
That's why I was wondering if using that some how the phone decided it was going to go into a slow charge mode only of some sort and got stuck there.