I posted this in a reply in another thread, but thought it better placed in the Accessories Forum.
For those that are interested in a simple way to have their transformer (or any similar sized tablet really) mounted in their vehicle, I am building mounts that will install much like an aftermarker radio would. For this set up, you would need a single DIN radio (not flip out screens like the Pioneer AVIC or anything, just a non motorized single DIN radio. Some of the fancier radios may work, but we haven't done any testing with them, yet). You would need a double DIN radio mounting bracket/harness specific to your vehicle. We are working on ways to customize it a little further based on vehicle specific applications, but right now we feel most standard vehicles should work with this set up. It will probably be a few weeks before our model is ready for production, but I should have pics of a completed install in my '06 Ram before then. The mount will be very secure (as secure as a radio installed) and will be on a 360 swivel allowing for angle adjustment (for passenger viewing, or glare for example) and will also allow both landscape and portrait angles (I believe, we are in the process of testing this theory). If you are at all familiar with installing a radio in a vehicle, than this would be very easy for you and would require very little customization on your end other than getting the mounts specific to your vehicle (pretty easy to do as Best Buy, car audio shops, or the internet sell them pretty cheap). Cost are going to be kept at a minimal to the end user until I can get this going. If you are interested, please PM me with you vehicle year/make/model and with some info about your experience in the vehicle audio market. I am going to be using the XDA forum as my demo crew as much as possible so I could definitely use some product testers (especially if you live in the Dallas-Fort Worth area).
Thanks!
I would be VERY interested in this.
2000 Honda S2000 (1st gen) I can do any surgery to the stereo you need me to, but it must have height adjustment and not get in the way of the stick.
Could you post pics of your dash set up do I can get a better idea? Not sure you would need height adjustment with this setup, but I don't want your shifting of the vehicle to interfere with the design either. I am working a design to slide in and out for those of us with trucks, but that is it so far. If there is a demand for a vertical adjusting option, I will look into that as well.
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Bah..if I didn't have an aftermarket double din radio in my car I would GLADLY try it out..I live in the fort worth area.
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I am VERY interested. I've been googling this for a while, trying to find something.
Is this a radio replacement? Like a proper in-dash mounting kit, making your TF something of a giant removable face, similar to aftermarket stereos?
Ive been thinking about this for a while, cant wait to see pics!!
I apparently can't post links in forums yet, but ill try to send a picture via PM
Darnit...I have a double DIN.
I am so wanting this. subura imprezza wrx. Do you have any pics
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I apparently can't post links in forums yet, but ill try to send a picture via PM
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Got your pic, and that's a pretty tight fit there. It is going to be questionable on whether this set up will work stock... We may be able to customize something for you, but I would have to get some measurements between the shifter and dash at some point. We can get something together.
Once I get the swivel I should have pics within a few days.
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Got your pic, and that's a pretty tight fit there. It is going to be questionable on whether this set up will work stock... We may be able to customize something for you, but I would have to get some measurements between the shifter and dash at some point. We can get something together.
Once I get the swivel I should have pics within a few days.
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Add me to your email list. I'm ecited to see these photos. I'm running a pretty common and standard car, a Chevrolet Cobalt. if you need any measurements or photos or want to prototype me, i'd be happy to be a guinea pig. I'm pretty savvy, and would love to promote the product.
silence.v3 AT gmail DOT com. Send me an email!
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I am VERY interested. I've been googling this for a while, trying to find something.
Is this a radio replacement? Like a proper in-dash mounting kit, making your TF something of a giant removable face, similar to aftermarket stereos?
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@Silence I am sorry, I just noticed your question (thought it was your sig because of the space so I didn't even look). It isn't necessarily a radio replacement, although you could go that route, but you would need an amplifier (4 channel or 5 channel I believe) so it could handle the audio from the tablet to the speakers in the car and would be a bit more costly/sophisticated installation. Basically think of it this way, you would have two single DIN pieces mounted directly on top of eachother where the bottom would be your single DIN radio, and the top part being the mount for the tablet. Thus needing the double DIN brackets. The pictures will explain the concept once I get this installed in my truck (hopefully this weekend depending on parts delivery).
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@Silence I am sorry, I just noticed your question (thought it was your sig because of the space so I didn't even look). It isn't necessarily a radio replacement, although you could go that route, but you would need an amplifier (4 channel or 5 channel I believe) so it could handle the audio from the tablet to the speakers in the car and would be a bit more costly/sophisticated installation. Basically think of it this way, you would have two single DIN pieces mounted directly on top of eachother where the bottom would be your single DIN radio, and the top part being the mount for the tablet. Thus needing the double DIN brackets. The pictures will explain the concept once I get this installed in my truck (hopefully this weekend depending on parts delivery).
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no problem, this is still very awesome, i would love to partake anyhow! keep us posted!
hey guys, just to update you I have the cradle ready to go. the mount I am waiting on a part for, at a stand still until then, but it looks good so far and can't wait to get it out to you. has anyone seen any other vehicle mount options in their searches? if so, can you link so I can research those to help improve my design?
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skyfox99 said:
I posted this in a reply in another thread, but thought it better placed in the Accessories Forum.
For those that are interested in a simple way to have their transformer (or any similar sized tablet really) mounted in their vehicle, I am building mounts that will install much like an aftermarker radio would. For this set up, you would need a single DIN radio (not flip out screens like the Pioneer AVIC or anything, just a non motorized single DIN radio. Some of the fancier radios may work, but we haven't done any testing with them, yet). You would need a double DIN radio mounting bracket/harness specific to your vehicle. We are working on ways to customize it a little further based on vehicle specific applications, but right now we feel most standard vehicles should work with this set up. It will probably be a few weeks before our model is ready for production, but I should have pics of a completed install in my '06 Ram before then. The mount will be very secure (as secure as a radio installed) and will be on a 360 swivel allowing for angle adjustment (for passenger viewing, or glare for example) and will also allow both landscape and portrait angles (I believe, we are in the process of testing this theory). If you are at all familiar with installing a radio in a vehicle, than this would be very easy for you and would require very little customization on your end other than getting the mounts specific to your vehicle (pretty easy to do as Best Buy, car audio shops, or the internet sell them pretty cheap). Cost are going to be kept at a minimal to the end user until I can get this going. If you are interested, please PM me with you vehicle year/make/model and with some info about your experience in the vehicle audio market. I am going to be using the XDA forum as my demo crew as much as possible so I could definitely use some product testers (especially if you live in the Dallas-Fort Worth area).
Thanks!
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Nice... I am about to mod the dash of my 2010 F-150 xlt Supercrew, i am going to build a cavity right where factory radio is so that it may slide in and out... i am working on solutions for working with ford sync , and am desperatly waiting to buy OEM cables from Asus so that i may begin testing as i want to make a pop out / swivel for the keyboard dock out of the center console .. i will post pics when i get it going and done right now im waiting on asus to release parts or at least a pin schematic for 40 pin
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Nice... I am about to mod the dash of my 2010 F-150 xlt Supercrew, i am going to build a cavity right where factory radio is so that it may slide in and out... i am working on solutions for working with ford sync , and am desperatly waiting to buy OEM cables from Asus so that i may begin testing as i want to make a pop out / swivel for the keyboard dock out of the center console .. i will post pics when i get it going and done right now im waiting on asus to release parts or at least a pin schematic for 40 pin
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Ditto on the cables. Using a slide out drawer is something we are actually in the process of designing as well, but we are trying to avoid the general consumer having to make any severe modifications or irreversible mods. Why keep the FORD sync system at all? Just curious as the TF would pretty much replace the entire thing in functionality, right? I want to have the complete install done this weekend, but waiting on one part... How large is the radio for the sync system? Is it a traditional din set up?
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i need a mount to go behind my tf so i can put it in landscape can you pm me a pic
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i need a mount to go behind my tf so i can put it in landscape can you pm me a pic
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I would need to see what you have behind that TF and you're bezel to see if this will work. I am using a cradle so it won't sit flush with the dash like you have it in the photos. We are working on the install today, Been told my part will arrive in 24 hours so it should be complete with photos this week.
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I would need to see what you have behind that TF and you're bezel to see if this will work. I am using a cradle so it won't sit flush with the dash like you have it in the photos. We are working on the install today, Been told my part will arrive in 24 hours so it should be complete with photos this week.
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Can. You send me a pic of your mount please. I might buy a few if they are what I'm looking for. I have a few friends that want me to put tabs in there cars.
I will be following this thread, because I am going to mount my TF in a 02 GMC Yukon XL. I have been thinking of ways to mount it already, but will wait to see what your mounting system looks like.
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Has anyone seen any sioght or sound of a possible future car mounting solution? I've found nothing myself so far. I asked RAM mounts about this. They got very excited and interested at first until they realised that the email enquiry i sent from my work e-mail was only a private enquiry. They then failed to provide a response!
I would love to use this puppy as my main GPS navigation and in car media entertainment.
proclipusa.com is working on it. They have an exclusive deal. They are working on one for the shift.
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I'll keep an eye out on their website. Not entirely sure how they can have an exclusive deal? Surely anyone can desgin their own cradle without needing the permission of the OEM for the unit being mounted,
What I will need to check is whether the cradle they produce will fit onto the mounting arms produced by RAM.
I think they were refering to a "certified" accessory manufacturer. Maybe the only one HTC recommends. Anyway, they are working on one right now. I placed a call to them a little over a week ago and that is what I got for an answer. Their US office and distruibution area is a couple miles from mine so I just place my order online and then pick it up there.
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When you do get it would you mind posting a few photos? in particular the back of the mount showing how it fixes to the mounting arm.
Will do. What type of vehicle are you going to mount it in?
I am still looking for car mount which can be use with Shift.....have to admit i don't see one yet, you guys have any better luck?
nothing yet, i looked at the proclip website and nothing
i curently have their athena car mount that holds the keyboard as well, but must admit, getting real board of it since i want my shift on my dash.
any luck anyone ?
ProClip is a bust for the Shift
I stopped by ProClip a couple days ago and talked to them about the Shift. Mine was the first one they had actually seen. They said that even though they could make a bracket for the Shift, the ROI would not be worth it. They were really impressed with mine but they said it costs around $5K US to design a custom bracket for something like the Shift. So, unless the Shift takes off in sales, basically a carrier picks it up and starts really pushing it, they probably will not make one. So that kills one from ProClip. Sorry
ProCLip actually SELLS carholders for the Shift
ProClip actually sells the CarHolder now, even with tilt swivel !
It's great to have the shift display Google Earth with my real time track, I now
use Google Earth as a navigation aid, and to look for cool places when I'm driving somewhere I don't know the surroundings.
Check http://www.reperion.com/example for the free software.
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I stopped by ProClip a couple days ago and talked to them about the Shift. Mine was the first one they had actually seen. They said that even though they could make a bracket for the Shift, the ROI would not be worth it. They were really impressed with mine but they said it costs around $5K US to design a custom bracket for something like the Shift. So, unless the Shift takes off in sales, basically a carrier picks it up and starts really pushing it, they probably will not make one. So that kills one from ProClip. Sorry
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Pro Clip mounting solution
There is another thread related to this. I posted pictures a couple weeks ago. I picked one up right after they announced that they had them.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=400726
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Hey everyone,
I am building my own car mount for my 94 mercury sable. Laugh if you want, its a beast with 85k miles.
Anyways, I came across:
Cradle
http://www.ram-mount.com/CatalogRes...rtid/082065077045050051052045054/Default.aspx
Mount
http://www.ram-mount.com/CatalogRes...65077045066045049048049085045067/Default.aspx
Since I have no center console (sadface) I am going to go to the junk yard and see if I can swap one in. Otherwise I am going to remove one of my DINs and bolt it inside there. I will post pictures once I get a chance.
I was looking into that cradle for a possibility in my application that I will be putting on the market, let me know what your impressions are of that cradle as it seemed to be designed for laptops, not a vertical placement for a tablet only set up.
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I was looking into that cradle for a possibility in my application that I will be putting on the market, let me know what your impressions are of that cradle as it seemed to be designed for laptops, not a vertical placement for a tablet only set up.
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Well, it can go vertical, Its just a big ugly piece behind it. Take a look at their demo information on it. Their xoom mount doesn't even come out till July!
Coming from a TF101 OG Transformer, I was concerned that the dock would be perhaps not up to my expectations, considering the thinner design. For starters, it was only offering a single USB port, to the two on the OG Transformer, and while the first version was reasonable to type on (and hugely better than ANY soft keyboard) the new one was described as having less key travel, and and while no reviewer seemed to have major issues, and I wasn't seeing glowing reports either.
I just got my dock, less than 10 minutes ago, I and I am typing this on it right now, and and for me, and if not for everyone, it BLOWS AWAY the OG Dock. First and foremost is how it is to type on. It issignificantly better for me, and the two fingers tango I do. I am not a touch typist, in spite of 20 + yeaars in IT and support. I have to look at the keyboard, but let me just say the they keys and the travel? They could have been designed by a German engineering firm, for a BMW or Mercedes. They feel awesome! Even with the lag we see on web applications (same as OG, though FW revisons almost completely eliminted it, I suspect ICS will squash any remaining lag, coupled with the right build from ASUS.
Apart from typing, the design? I am glad it doesn't have to do any wireless, cause its aluminum back and front LOL, and looks like a billion bucks. Closed, the TP feels like a solid chunk of aluminum, and I mean SOLID. The touch pad is terrific, I LOVE the way they eliminated the "buttons" in favor of a dividing line, and in spite of it's obvious relationship to the OG, this is better in every way. I was a bit worried, but not anymore. I give this thing a 9.5 score out of ten.
For peope on the fence about getting the dock, run, don't walk to the thread that explains how to get these in a few days from Best Buy, using OMS. The DOCK ROCKS!!!
Curious to see how folks coming to the Prime as first Tablet, or replacing something other than the OG Transformer feel about the dock. What does everyone else think?
NOTE: For those that missed it, don't forget to take out the plastic tabs at the base of the tablet screen, they MUST be removed before placing it in the dock. Also, if you are feeling a slight current "buzz" when touching the metal lightly, unplucg the power supply from the wall, and turn it upside down (so the word "Asus" is upside down. This is the only workaround I m aware of for the issue.
Lastly, can asus get rid of the goofy notification that says
"Docking connected. Use Keyboard to type words"
I know what they are trying to say, I.E. Don't use the soft keyboard (duh) what do they think we would use the KB for than to type words? As a $150 back scratcher? Really unnecessary notification.
I actually received my dock a week before my tablet. Both were ordered from BB back a couple days after the first pre-orders showed up on their site. (You had to go hunting to find the dock, but it was there.)
I've got zero problems with the dock or the tablet in daily use. I would agree that the notification should either be eliminated or at least be allowed to be closed. The extra battery life it provides the tablet is fantastic. The key travel isn't that bad; I expected worse.
My only peeve is I wish the right shift was wide like the left. I find myself hitting the damn up arrow every once in awhile by accident.
Love it
The battery life when coupled with the dock is practically an eternity.
I also really like the Android specific hot-keys. ASUS did a great job picking the common actions and making them into a hot-key. I can tap a button to instantly get into "settings" as one example. It's just amazing.
With the introduction of the following three features this really becomes an enterprise class solution for mobile computing:
1) ICS support of VPN IPSec Groups
2) Ability to encrypt hard drive contents. (no not bootloader, user data)
3) Fully functional Keyboard
Who needs to carry a bulky laptop at that point. I could do almost all of my business travel with this thing and then ditch the keyboard when I get home.
don't have mine yet. how is it for those of us who ARE touch typists?
(I see my dad going at it with 2 fingers, but he grew up before PCs. I don't get how anyone under 40 isn't a touch typist these days!)
theoilman said:
don't have mine yet. how is it for those of us who ARE touch typists?
(I see my dad going at it with 2 fingers, but he grew up before PCs. I don't get how anyone under 40 isn't a touch typist these days!)
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I know what you mean, but I'm under 40 and can touch type over 60 wpm in the best conditions.
I have rather large hands for a keyboard that small and as I mentioned, the only key that bugs is the right shift. Everything else is pretty good.
I want to know what happened to the low range speaker they said was going to be in the dock...
I was kind of looking forward to it.
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I know what you mean, but I'm under 40 and can touch type over 60 wpm in the best conditions.
I have rather large hands for a keyboard that small and as I mentioned, the only key that bugs is the right shift. Everything else is pretty good.
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ok good to hear. I almost always use the left shift anyway.
It was only a rumor. And such solution would probably be hard to create because you shouldn't connect audio equipement "live" - you would have to turn off the audio amplifier in the tablet before connecting / disconnecting the dock to avoid surge (is it a good word? dictionary was not helpful...). Unless the speaker had it's own amplifier, hm...
Got my dock a few days ago and I love it. The keyboard is a little cramped but after 5 to 10 minutes of use you'll be adjusted to it and typing as though it is a regular sized keyboard. Also I discovered that ctrl + V actually pastes! I haven't found any other common shortcuts like that, if anyone knows any please post them. ctrl + f unfortunately doesn't start a browser word find but you can just hit the option list and start one up pretty easily.
The battery life is amazing. I spent about 6 non stop hours yesterday listening to pandora with a bluetooth headset while constantly browsing reddit and chatting on windows live messenger through the beejive app. At the end of the 6 hours my tablet still had 75% battery left but the dock was completely used up.
This is how the dock battery works... when your tablet reaches 70% charge the dock will begin relaying power to the tablet and recharge it up to 98% or so. Once there the dock will stop relaying power and wait until the tablet falls to 70% and repeat the process until the dock is dead.
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It was only a rumor. And such solution would probably be hard to create because you shouldn't connect audio equipement "live" - you would have to turn off the audio amplifier in the tablet before connecting / disconnecting the dock to avoid surge (is it a good word? dictionary was not helpful...). Unless the speaker had it's own amplifier, hm...
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Actually, the subwoofer wasn't just a rumor. I have it on good authority (very good, in fact) that there was going to be a subwoofer in the dock but that it was dropped prior to release. No reason why, but maybe this surge issue (or something else, of course) was the reason.
It was listed on some marketing materials at launch, and then dropped pretty quickly. Many sites still listed the incorrect specs, however, and so the idea lived on for awhile.
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This is how the dock battery works... when your tablet reaches 70% charge the dock will begin relaying power to the tablet and recharge it up to 98% or so. Once there the dock will stop relaying power and wait until the tablet falls to 70% and repeat the process until the dock is dead.
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Thanks for that clarification, I was wondering. I kind of like how the TF101 dock works, by keeping the tablet topped off at 100% until it runs out. I wonder what their reasoning is...
I'm pretty happy with the dock. Certainly much thinner and lighter than the TF101. The only thing I wish they would have kept from the original was the covers for the USB port. Instead of the nifty little cover that snaps back in place there is a rubber stopper. It's petty to be sure, but I have a touch of OCD.
have any of you tested out the USB host capabilities yet? what are things you hooked up and found to work instantLy? has anyone hooked up a wireless controller by putting receiving piece in USB port? I just want to know what kinds of things are possible with dock USB host capabilities. like what's the most device you hooked up to USB hub connected to prime dock and still worked without external power source needed.
theoilman said:
don't have mine yet. how is it for those of us who ARE touch typists?
(I see my dad going at it with 2 fingers, but he grew up before PCs. I don't get how anyone under 40 isn't a touch typist these days!)
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and how!
I learned to touch type to argue on irc when I was in high school like, uh, 16 years ago. I can't imagine an IT pro not touch typing. It makes you look dumb in the same way as when you meet a scientist who sounds like a hillbilly.
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have any of you tested out the USB host capabilities yet? what are things you hooked up and found to work instantLy? has anyone hooked up a wireless controller by putting receiving piece in USB port? I just want to know what kinds of things are possible with dock USB host capabilities. like what's the most device you hooked up to USB hub connected to prime dock and still worked without external power source needed.
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when I get mine, I'm gonna test my DWA-130 usb N adapter.
also gonna test my logitech unifying adapter and my g330 usb headset.
Got mine today, ordered from NewEgg on 1/3. Only played with it for a few minutes, but first thing I noticed is, the build quality of the trackpad is a little shoddy. It doesn't feel real solid in there, when I do a single tap in the main area it makes a little creak sound and pushes in a tiny bit. Also the paint around the edges of the trackpad looked a little scuffed in some spots - not a big deal, but kinda lame. Otherwise the dock is fine.
Anyone else have a slight creak when tapping in the main area or is it just mine? Maybe I'm just spoiled by Apple's trackpads, lol
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The damn thing is beautiful, beyond what I expected, far easier and more "natural" to use than I thought it would be, a match made in heaven for the tablet, when closed makes me feel like my tablet is safer and more secure, and doesn't seem like I've added any weight or thickness at all to what I already had.
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I've been a little obsessed with keeping the Prime safe from scratches and now it seems like I have one big scratch magnet, so they are currently bundled together and wrapped in a very soft micro-fleece towel. I was using a sleeve from the OG for the tablet and that worked just fine but doesn't accommodate the addition of the dock at all. I'll be much much happier when I can find the perfect case/sleeve for them both to live in.
OK, played with it for about an hour now...
Overall I like it, but the trackpad is kind of junky, think netbook quality, feels cheap. It doesn't always register the two-finger scrolls, maybe partly because your fingers have to be about 1 inch apart. I remember the OG tf101 trackpad is the same way, it's too bad Asus didn't really improve on it.
Then again, I'm a Mac user, Apple's track pads are the best out there, so maybe it's not fair to compare, lol.
The keyboard itself does feel nice though, keys have plenty of travel to them. Found a few weird quirks though, using the YouTube app, the search field doesn't seem to recognize the space bar, so I couldn't enter spaces into my search queries. It works in the browser fine though. Also 2-finger scrolling doesn't seem to work in Opera browser, all it does is zoom in on the page. Works fine in Dolphin HD though.
Really looking forward to the ICS update next week, will be interesting to see if Asus also releases a dock firmware update as well.
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Keyboard dock is great, except for three minor issues for me:
- the right shift key is my default shift, for the way that I type. It's not in the usual position and it is tiny. So, I constantly hit the page up button by mistake when intending to make a cap letter. Biggest issue for me.
- you have to remember to disable the touchpad when typing most things. My thumb dangling over the spacebar would inadvertantly hit the pad, and change my cursor position while typing.
- there's not easy way to open the closed/docked TFP. The front seam is tightly closed. I'm sure I will get used to opening from the side though.
Other than that, I've gotten use to the slightly smaller key layout already, and I have decent sized hands.
Build quality is great, not scuff, as others mentioned had mentioned they had. The front by the trackpad is so thin, it's almost sharp though. I've also not had issues with reboots when docking/undocking, as another person mentioned. I did get a firmware update for the dock though.. dunno is that made a difference.
Highly recommended though. Very nice piece of kit.
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tdp252 said:
The battery life when coupled with the dock is practically an eternity.
I also really like the Android specific hot-keys. ASUS did a great job picking the common actions and making them into a hot-key. I can tap a button to instantly get into "settings" as one example. It's just amazing.
With the introduction of the following three features this really becomes an enterprise class solution for mobile computing:
1) ICS support of VPN IPSec Groups
2) Ability to encrypt hard drive contents. (no not bootloader, user data)
3) Fully functional Keyboard
Who needs to carry a bulky laptop at that point. I could do almost all of my business travel with this thing and then ditch the keyboard when I get home.
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VPN IPSec Groups tops my list. Just baffles me that this is even an issue. You would think it would be in both Google and Cisco's best interests.
Is the encryption located under Location and Security in settings different than what your after?
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Keyboard dock is great, except for three minor issues for me:
- the right shift key is my default shift, for the way that I type. It's not in the usual position and it is tiny. So, I constantly hit the page up button by mistake when intending to make a cap letter. Biggest issue for me.
- you have to remember to disable the touchpad when typing most things. My thumb dangling over the spacebar would inadvertantly hit the pad, and change my cursor position while typing.
- there's not easy way to open the closed/docked TFP. The front seam is tightly closed. I'm sure I will get used to opening from the side though.
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Hopefully the left shift is decent. I only use the left!
I wonder if it's possible for them to implement an auto disable of the trackpad when typing? That would definitely be nice as opposed to having to do it manually all the time.
I got the dock on order from bestbuy (never knew about getting them to do "OMS orders"), I'll have mine in a week. Time to get my little dvorak stickers, I personally HATE typing on the touchscreen, even on the phone I don't like it that much (ICS voice typing saved my life in that case). Anyway, type slowly and lose a lot of screen real estate or type over 100 wpm and have better battery life and a full size usb seems like a no brainer to me.
Also, for people who are not touch typists, using a software keyboard isn't going to help you get past that much. Just don't look at the keyboard when you are typing and before long you will be able to type with your eyes closed and still even detect the mistakes you might make
Designing a car mount to work with my Seidio case that will still allow docking features. The mount will be mated to a ProClip mount for ideal location. It will be molded out of Kydex and will have a micro-fleece like lining in it. The electronics will be torn from a Samsung OEM desktop dock from my Vibrant (close relitive of the captivate). This is a very rough idea based on a design in my head. Any input would be appriciated.
Update: I pulled the circuit board from the OEM dock. I'm torn between using it or not. The dock offer audio pass through but at the cost of fast charge capabilities. Not sure if i want to sacrifice this. Day to day the audio pass through will be very handy, but when I need GPS on long trips, I will have to rely on an occasional battery swap. Thoughts?
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EDIT 2: Initial beta build is done and thread is up
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1569099
Where the hell did my attachments go?
Will reattach tomorrow at work, sorry folks.
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Photos re-added. Any thoughts, opinions, recommendations would be great.
On the charge front, can you modify the pins internally to allow for fast charge?
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dakleenupman said:
On the charge front, can you modify the pins internally to allow for fast charge?
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Yes I'm sure I could, but I imagine this would interfere with the audio pass through as you would be shorting the data pins to accomplish this, then how would the data pass.
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Yes I'm sure I could, but I imagine this would interfere with the audio pass through as you would be shorting the data pins to accomplish this, then how would the data pass.
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I see. So the dock uses the USB connector to take the audio from the phone, to the 3.5mm jack attached to the dock. Then from the dock fo your head unit?
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I see. So the dock uses the USB connector to take the audio from the phone, to the 3.5mm jack attached to the dock. Then from the dock fo your head unit?
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Precisely, I use slacker every morning for my morning commute plugged into the AUX via patch cable so this has major everyday advantage for me. This would allow me to simply drop my phone into the dock. Using Tasker I could have it auto launch slacker.
The only alternative to obtain the best of both worlds is to open up a patch cable, ID +/- then wire a switch shorting the data pins in the closed position. While this works in theory, I’m not sure what the effects it would have on the phone/stereo (noise or actual damage). I have little working knowledge of audio.
What if you used the current OE dock and modified that one? That one is already proven to charge.
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dakleenupman said:
What if you used the current OE dock and modified that one? That one is already proven to charge.
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If I run into one cheap I may try, but I don't want to throw money at this which was my original plan. I made my first car mount tonight. This is the first time working with the much thicker Kydex T 0.093" and boy was it a pain to work. The stuff is about 4 times thicker then the seidio cases plastic shell. I took pics and even a couple videos. I'm happy with it in that it was a shot in the dark and I didn't expect alot out of the first one and also I found out how damn touch this thickness of Kydex is. I will post up info on it tomorrow when I have time to actually type it all up.
interesting, I was hoping to build my own dock as well. Could you post pictures of the circuit board from the original dock? I'm close to buying one just to tear apart for the charge+audio
Great work so far, Keep us posted
flipf0nt said:
interesting, I was hoping to build my own dock as well. Could you post pictures of the circuit board from the original dock? I'm close to buying one just to tear apart for the charge+audio
Great work so far, Keep us posted
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You can buy the dock for vibrant or captivate for about $8-$10. I tested they board and it does charge and pass audio.
There are about 6 tiny screws that are accessed by prying off the panel off the back. Be careful doing this, easy to gouge your hand.
The problem will come when you try to mount the board without leaving these delicate wires exposed. Hope this helped.
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You can buy the dock for vibrant or captivate for about $8-$10. I tested they board and it does charge and pass audio.
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I'm interested in doing this, too.
I've got my old Captivate OEM car dock around here somewhere. I'm wondering if that would work, too.
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I'm interested in doing this, too.
I've got my old Captivate OEM car dock around here somewhere. I'm wondering if that would work, too.
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Should work just fine. I am putting the finishing touches on my guide right now for my first mount that I made last night. If you follow the instructions you should have no problem making a mount an incorporating whatever features you like. I'm still up in the air whether I will be using this dock board or just placing a 90 degree USB cable in. I am waiting to hear back on a quote from a Kydex dealer for a few more sheets and when I get those I will make a more refined end product. What I post here in a bit will be just a way of getting people on the track to making their own mounts. Many people don't realize how easy it really is.
The OEM dock offers fast charge and audio pass through at the same time. No idea how, but it does work...
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Should work just fine. I am putting the finishing touches on my guide right now for my first mount that I made last night. If you follow the instructions you should have no problem making a mount an incorporating whatever features you like. I'm still up in the air whether I will be using this dock board or just placing a 90 degree USB cable in. I am waiting to hear back on a quote from a Kydex dealer for a few more sheets and when I get those I will make a more refined end product. What I post here in a bit will be just a way of getting people on the track to making their own mounts. Many people don't realize how easy it really is.
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Thanks so much man! Do you think you could include the tasker profiles as well? That would be awesomeme!!!!!!!
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The OEM dock offers fast charge and audio pass through at the same time. No idea how, but it does work...
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I was looking at the wiring, if I could figure out which pins are used for audio, I could figure out if the other pins could (possibly already are?) fused. I know there are complains about OEM desk docks from captivate and other same gen galaxy s devices not fast charging.
Ray_Banci said:
Thanks so much man! Do you think you could include the tasker profiles as well? That would be awesomeme!!!!!!!
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I will get to all that when the time comes, but of course I would be more than happy to supply anything I possibly can to help others out. May be sending out these early prototypes to those who want them once I get something more refined cranked out.
The thread is up. Go, read, comment.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1569099
Nice work so far! I've been entertaining the idea of a car dock for my precious Note as well, and I wasn't a big fan of the one that is available from Samsung.
If you plan to move into any sort of CAD/CAM development, I'd love to offer my modeling skills to the cause. I made this guy a while back for my Atrix as a desk dock, but ended up buying the HD dock towards the end of the Project lol.
I'm not trying to highjack this thread or anything, just want to offer my services to the cause. If there is an interest, i will start drawing up some plans.
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Nice work so far! I've been entertaining the idea of a car dock for my precious Note as well, and I wasn't a big fan of the one that is available from Samsung.
If you plan to move into any sort of CAD/CAM development, I'd love to offer my modeling skills to the cause. I made this guy a while back for my Atrix as a desk dock, but ended up buying the HD dock towards the end of the Project lol.
I'm not trying to highjack this thread or anything, just want to offer my services to the cause. If there is an interest, i will start drawing up some plans.
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Very cool work but mine will be mounted in my truck so that cool work would go to waste. My mount is aimed at the average joe who can invest <$20 and have themselves a full functional car dock. I'm working on tracking down sources for different parts. I just some rotating adjustable low profile swivels that will allow the case just to rotate from portrait to landscape rather then disassembly. I ordered two to try it out.
Nice cant wait to see the finished product will you be selling any?
Now that I`m getting my dongle I`m wondering if anyone out there has tried a car mount for their Prime. With the large screen and now functional GPS this would make a phenomenal in car GPS unit. My only concern would be damaging the Prime due to a bracket not supporting it properly causing it to fall. Anyone`s experience would be appreciated.
Jeff
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I have this one from Arkon, and love it. The extension arm rests on my dash, and the suction cup is relatively low on the window. I have never experienced any problems with the Prime falling out, or the whole mount falling down, because since the arm rests on the dash, there is minimal weight applied to the suction cup.
http://www.arkon.com/tablet-accessories/universal-tablet-windshield-mount.html
Bob
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I have this one from Arkon, and love it. The extension arm rests on my dash, and the suction cup is relatively low on the window. I have never experienced any problems with the Prime falling out, or the whole mount falling down, because since the arm rests on the dash, there is minimal weight applied to the suction cup.
http://www.arkon.com/tablet-accessories/universal-tablet-windshield-mount.html
Bob
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Got that same one but from Amazon. Only $30 w/ my Prime.
Also picked this one up for my little boy and my backseat passengers lol
http://www.amazon.com/Arkon-Tablet-...CLTU/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1335471406&sr=8-2
I bought this http://www.ebay.com/itm/Arkon-TAB178-Removable-No-Glue-Sticky-Car-Dash-Desktop-Tablet-and-iPad-Mount-/360446004720?pt=US_Tablet_Accessories&hash=item53ec418df0#ht_816wt_1163 one from Arkon. Love the sticky pad it has. Same sticky pad that is on the mount for my HTC phone. Same sticky material that the whacky wall walkers had in the 80s. sticks to ANYTHING. Still waiting for it to come in .... was very hard to find on ebay, its the only one of its kind that i found after days of searching for a non piece of crap.
GPS dongle ?
robertg9 said:
I have this one from Arkon, and love it. The extension arm rests on my dash, and the suction cup is relatively low on the window. I have never experienced any problems with the Prime falling out, or the whole mount falling down, because since the arm rests on the dash, there is minimal weight applied to the suction cup.
http://www.arkon.com/tablet-accessories/universal-tablet-windshield-mount.html
Bob
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How about adding the GPS dongle ?
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How about adding the GPS dongle ?
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I haven't got my dongle yet, but the tabs that hold the Prime are adjustable, so I'm guessing that they can spread far enough apart for the dongle to fit.
If someone can measure the length of the dongle, I can measure it.
Bob
I just measured my dongle.....man that just doesn`t sound right. Anyways it`s 7 1/8 inch wide. Can you let me know if this would fit with your mount. I`ve looked at tons of mounts and yours seems to be one of the better solutions right now.
Thanks
Jeff
Jeff1192 said:
I just measured my dongle.....man that just doesn`t sound right. Anyways it`s 7 1/8 inch wide. Can you let me know if this would fit with your mount. I`ve looked at tons of mounts and yours seems to be one of the better solutions right now.
Thanks
Jeff
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Well, the spread on the mount tabs only gives about 4" of clearance. BUT, in reality, you only need one tab on the top holding it. Attached is a pic of the keyboard (since I'm using the TP for the pic and it shows the edge of the dongle area) and the keyboard still holds solidly in there. Also notice my mounting. The extension arm (adjustable) rests on the dash, so, with the tablet supplying a downward weight, the suction cup would be "pushed" into the window so it's not like phone/gps attachments where everything tends to pull it off the window, the TP is actually doing the opposite.
The tabs are spring-loaded, so in order to insert the TP between the tabs, you would insert the top of the TP, push upward, then slide the bottom in.
I can't really tell you the force required, but it's definitely not minimal.
I think that the TP, in the mount, would stay in position even in a front or rear end collision.
I made one search my user name & you will find photos here
Here you go http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1444199
i must say, this DIY seems pretty good....
http://work.failblog.org/2012/04/25/job-fails-cup-holder-laptop-tray/?fb_ref=newcontenthole
lil-devil said:
i must say, this DIY seems pretty good....
http://work.failblog.org/2012/04/25/job-fails-cup-holder-laptop-tray/?fb_ref=newcontenthole
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LMAO
Looks legit tho
I received my Arkon windshield mount today. With the dongle attached I can use all 4 feet of the bracket because the bottom of the bracket is spring loaded and easily accomodates the dongle while still keeping the tablet very secure in the mount. I haven't tried it in the car yet but the build quality seems quite good.
Jeff
Jeff1192 said:
I received my Arkon windshield mount today. With the dongle attached I can use all 4 feet of the bracket because the bottom of the bracket is spring loaded and easily accomodates the dongle while still keeping the tablet very secure in the mount. I haven't tried it in the car yet but the build quality seems quite good.
Jeff
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Did you get the same one I got, or did you get one of the variations? I was wondering if you ever got one after looking at the different options. I know that I am very happy with mine.
If you don't have a Nav program, I strongly recommend CoPilot Live Premium.
There are a couple of threads here that discuss the different options.
Bob
I got the same one. Really like the build quality and it holds the tablet very securely even with the dongle. I am trying to decide between sygic and copilot. Reviews seem to be fairly evenly split. Its too bad there is no copilot trial. I've been playing with the sygic trial and really like it.
Jeff1192 said:
I am trying to decide between sygic and copilot. Reviews seem to be fairly evenly split. Its too bad there is no copilot trial. I've been playing with the sygic trial and really like it.
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I'd suggest going to the CoPilot site and take a look at the video. From what I understand, all the add-ons for Sygic make it more expensive then CoPilot Live Premium....and I would definitely recommend the Premium over the standard.
You might want to take a look at the comments in this thread....Quite varied
http://www.transformerforums.com/forum/transformer-prime-general-discussions/20551-any-gps-only-navigation-app-prime.html
Quick update....I took my tablet for a spin in my car this afternoon. The mount is really solid and secure. The tablet is not going anywhere. If anyone else is looking for a car mount this is definitely a great option, especially at $40.
So I ended up purchasing Co-Pilot Premium and unfortunately I was really disappointed in it. I did a lot of reading of reviews and watching video reviews and it seemed like a great deal and I really good piece of software. However, the Canadian maps are ridiculously out of date. I live in a rural area of Ottawa (the capital of Canada). My house was built on a new street 11yrs ago and the street isn`t even on their map. I have also quickly noticed a few other road changes that were made in Ottawa at least 8yrs ago that are not reflected on their map. I really like the program itself, it`s fantastic...but with the map being so out of date I`d be hesitant to rely on it for a trip. I have contacted Co-Pilot and requested a refund due to how badly out of date their Canadian map is....but I`m not holding my breath.
Jeff
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My house was built on a new street 11yrs ago and the street isn`t even on their map. I have also quickly noticed a few other road changes that were made in Ottawa at least 8yrs ago that are not reflected on their map.
Jeff
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I am surprised that their Canadian Maps are so out of date. However, they are not alone in this issue. My niece moved to a new house (similar situation) a number of years ago. So long ago, I don't remember the dates. But I had the same problem of finding her....I used Google Maps, Mapquest, Navteq Maps, Teleatlas Maps...None of those companies showed her development till very recently.
Do you know that other sources have your street identified? Maybe you're in the same boat I was...where nobody has it.
CoPilot does have a nice feature where you can identify map errors. They will check them out and fix their maps accordingly. You can submit a map Update on this page
http://www.copilotlive.com/us/support/
or even in the app itself, by going to "MyCoPilot" then selecting "Submit a Map Improvement".
FYI: Most map changes take close to a year to get to the consumer. Navteq will make changes, then quarterly will send them to the software vendors. The vendors then massage the data to meet their program requirements...After all that, it is eventually released as a map update.
I'm not sure that Sygic would be any better, and avoid NAVFree for now....They showed my location in the 'wrong town"
Bob
Yeah I was shocked. My address and all the streets around it were on google within a year. They're also on my Garmin and have been for some time. I have submitted the corrections to them and opened a support ticket as well. Sygic shows all these locations properly as well.
Jeff