Designing a car mount to work with my Seidio case that will still allow docking features. The mount will be mated to a ProClip mount for ideal location. It will be molded out of Kydex and will have a micro-fleece like lining in it. The electronics will be torn from a Samsung OEM desktop dock from my Vibrant (close relitive of the captivate). This is a very rough idea based on a design in my head. Any input would be appriciated.
Update: I pulled the circuit board from the OEM dock. I'm torn between using it or not. The dock offer audio pass through but at the cost of fast charge capabilities. Not sure if i want to sacrifice this. Day to day the audio pass through will be very handy, but when I need GPS on long trips, I will have to rely on an occasional battery swap. Thoughts?
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EDIT 2: Initial beta build is done and thread is up
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1569099
Where the hell did my attachments go?
Will reattach tomorrow at work, sorry folks.
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Photos re-added. Any thoughts, opinions, recommendations would be great.
On the charge front, can you modify the pins internally to allow for fast charge?
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On the charge front, can you modify the pins internally to allow for fast charge?
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Yes I'm sure I could, but I imagine this would interfere with the audio pass through as you would be shorting the data pins to accomplish this, then how would the data pass.
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Yes I'm sure I could, but I imagine this would interfere with the audio pass through as you would be shorting the data pins to accomplish this, then how would the data pass.
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I see. So the dock uses the USB connector to take the audio from the phone, to the 3.5mm jack attached to the dock. Then from the dock fo your head unit?
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I see. So the dock uses the USB connector to take the audio from the phone, to the 3.5mm jack attached to the dock. Then from the dock fo your head unit?
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Precisely, I use slacker every morning for my morning commute plugged into the AUX via patch cable so this has major everyday advantage for me. This would allow me to simply drop my phone into the dock. Using Tasker I could have it auto launch slacker.
The only alternative to obtain the best of both worlds is to open up a patch cable, ID +/- then wire a switch shorting the data pins in the closed position. While this works in theory, I’m not sure what the effects it would have on the phone/stereo (noise or actual damage). I have little working knowledge of audio.
What if you used the current OE dock and modified that one? That one is already proven to charge.
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What if you used the current OE dock and modified that one? That one is already proven to charge.
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If I run into one cheap I may try, but I don't want to throw money at this which was my original plan. I made my first car mount tonight. This is the first time working with the much thicker Kydex T 0.093" and boy was it a pain to work. The stuff is about 4 times thicker then the seidio cases plastic shell. I took pics and even a couple videos. I'm happy with it in that it was a shot in the dark and I didn't expect alot out of the first one and also I found out how damn touch this thickness of Kydex is. I will post up info on it tomorrow when I have time to actually type it all up.
interesting, I was hoping to build my own dock as well. Could you post pictures of the circuit board from the original dock? I'm close to buying one just to tear apart for the charge+audio
Great work so far, Keep us posted
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interesting, I was hoping to build my own dock as well. Could you post pictures of the circuit board from the original dock? I'm close to buying one just to tear apart for the charge+audio
Great work so far, Keep us posted
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You can buy the dock for vibrant or captivate for about $8-$10. I tested they board and it does charge and pass audio.
There are about 6 tiny screws that are accessed by prying off the panel off the back. Be careful doing this, easy to gouge your hand.
The problem will come when you try to mount the board without leaving these delicate wires exposed. Hope this helped.
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You can buy the dock for vibrant or captivate for about $8-$10. I tested they board and it does charge and pass audio.
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I'm interested in doing this, too.
I've got my old Captivate OEM car dock around here somewhere. I'm wondering if that would work, too.
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I'm interested in doing this, too.
I've got my old Captivate OEM car dock around here somewhere. I'm wondering if that would work, too.
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Should work just fine. I am putting the finishing touches on my guide right now for my first mount that I made last night. If you follow the instructions you should have no problem making a mount an incorporating whatever features you like. I'm still up in the air whether I will be using this dock board or just placing a 90 degree USB cable in. I am waiting to hear back on a quote from a Kydex dealer for a few more sheets and when I get those I will make a more refined end product. What I post here in a bit will be just a way of getting people on the track to making their own mounts. Many people don't realize how easy it really is.
The OEM dock offers fast charge and audio pass through at the same time. No idea how, but it does work...
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Should work just fine. I am putting the finishing touches on my guide right now for my first mount that I made last night. If you follow the instructions you should have no problem making a mount an incorporating whatever features you like. I'm still up in the air whether I will be using this dock board or just placing a 90 degree USB cable in. I am waiting to hear back on a quote from a Kydex dealer for a few more sheets and when I get those I will make a more refined end product. What I post here in a bit will be just a way of getting people on the track to making their own mounts. Many people don't realize how easy it really is.
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Thanks so much man! Do you think you could include the tasker profiles as well? That would be awesomeme!!!!!!!
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The OEM dock offers fast charge and audio pass through at the same time. No idea how, but it does work...
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I was looking at the wiring, if I could figure out which pins are used for audio, I could figure out if the other pins could (possibly already are?) fused. I know there are complains about OEM desk docks from captivate and other same gen galaxy s devices not fast charging.
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Thanks so much man! Do you think you could include the tasker profiles as well? That would be awesomeme!!!!!!!
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I will get to all that when the time comes, but of course I would be more than happy to supply anything I possibly can to help others out. May be sending out these early prototypes to those who want them once I get something more refined cranked out.
The thread is up. Go, read, comment.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1569099
Nice work so far! I've been entertaining the idea of a car dock for my precious Note as well, and I wasn't a big fan of the one that is available from Samsung.
If you plan to move into any sort of CAD/CAM development, I'd love to offer my modeling skills to the cause. I made this guy a while back for my Atrix as a desk dock, but ended up buying the HD dock towards the end of the Project lol.
I'm not trying to highjack this thread or anything, just want to offer my services to the cause. If there is an interest, i will start drawing up some plans.
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Nice work so far! I've been entertaining the idea of a car dock for my precious Note as well, and I wasn't a big fan of the one that is available from Samsung.
If you plan to move into any sort of CAD/CAM development, I'd love to offer my modeling skills to the cause. I made this guy a while back for my Atrix as a desk dock, but ended up buying the HD dock towards the end of the Project lol.
I'm not trying to highjack this thread or anything, just want to offer my services to the cause. If there is an interest, i will start drawing up some plans.
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Very cool work but mine will be mounted in my truck so that cool work would go to waste. My mount is aimed at the average joe who can invest <$20 and have themselves a full functional car dock. I'm working on tracking down sources for different parts. I just some rotating adjustable low profile swivels that will allow the case just to rotate from portrait to landscape rather then disassembly. I ordered two to try it out.
Nice cant wait to see the finished product will you be selling any?
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I posted this in a reply in another thread, but thought it better placed in the Accessories Forum.
For those that are interested in a simple way to have their transformer (or any similar sized tablet really) mounted in their vehicle, I am building mounts that will install much like an aftermarker radio would. For this set up, you would need a single DIN radio (not flip out screens like the Pioneer AVIC or anything, just a non motorized single DIN radio. Some of the fancier radios may work, but we haven't done any testing with them, yet). You would need a double DIN radio mounting bracket/harness specific to your vehicle. We are working on ways to customize it a little further based on vehicle specific applications, but right now we feel most standard vehicles should work with this set up. It will probably be a few weeks before our model is ready for production, but I should have pics of a completed install in my '06 Ram before then. The mount will be very secure (as secure as a radio installed) and will be on a 360 swivel allowing for angle adjustment (for passenger viewing, or glare for example) and will also allow both landscape and portrait angles (I believe, we are in the process of testing this theory). If you are at all familiar with installing a radio in a vehicle, than this would be very easy for you and would require very little customization on your end other than getting the mounts specific to your vehicle (pretty easy to do as Best Buy, car audio shops, or the internet sell them pretty cheap). Cost are going to be kept at a minimal to the end user until I can get this going. If you are interested, please PM me with you vehicle year/make/model and with some info about your experience in the vehicle audio market. I am going to be using the XDA forum as my demo crew as much as possible so I could definitely use some product testers (especially if you live in the Dallas-Fort Worth area).
Thanks!
I would be VERY interested in this.
2000 Honda S2000 (1st gen) I can do any surgery to the stereo you need me to, but it must have height adjustment and not get in the way of the stick.
Could you post pics of your dash set up do I can get a better idea? Not sure you would need height adjustment with this setup, but I don't want your shifting of the vehicle to interfere with the design either. I am working a design to slide in and out for those of us with trucks, but that is it so far. If there is a demand for a vertical adjusting option, I will look into that as well.
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Bah..if I didn't have an aftermarket double din radio in my car I would GLADLY try it out..I live in the fort worth area.
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I am VERY interested. I've been googling this for a while, trying to find something.
Is this a radio replacement? Like a proper in-dash mounting kit, making your TF something of a giant removable face, similar to aftermarket stereos?
Ive been thinking about this for a while, cant wait to see pics!!
I apparently can't post links in forums yet, but ill try to send a picture via PM
Darnit...I have a double DIN.
I am so wanting this. subura imprezza wrx. Do you have any pics
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I apparently can't post links in forums yet, but ill try to send a picture via PM
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Got your pic, and that's a pretty tight fit there. It is going to be questionable on whether this set up will work stock... We may be able to customize something for you, but I would have to get some measurements between the shifter and dash at some point. We can get something together.
Once I get the swivel I should have pics within a few days.
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Got your pic, and that's a pretty tight fit there. It is going to be questionable on whether this set up will work stock... We may be able to customize something for you, but I would have to get some measurements between the shifter and dash at some point. We can get something together.
Once I get the swivel I should have pics within a few days.
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Add me to your email list. I'm ecited to see these photos. I'm running a pretty common and standard car, a Chevrolet Cobalt. if you need any measurements or photos or want to prototype me, i'd be happy to be a guinea pig. I'm pretty savvy, and would love to promote the product.
silence.v3 AT gmail DOT com. Send me an email!
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I am VERY interested. I've been googling this for a while, trying to find something.
Is this a radio replacement? Like a proper in-dash mounting kit, making your TF something of a giant removable face, similar to aftermarket stereos?
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@Silence I am sorry, I just noticed your question (thought it was your sig because of the space so I didn't even look). It isn't necessarily a radio replacement, although you could go that route, but you would need an amplifier (4 channel or 5 channel I believe) so it could handle the audio from the tablet to the speakers in the car and would be a bit more costly/sophisticated installation. Basically think of it this way, you would have two single DIN pieces mounted directly on top of eachother where the bottom would be your single DIN radio, and the top part being the mount for the tablet. Thus needing the double DIN brackets. The pictures will explain the concept once I get this installed in my truck (hopefully this weekend depending on parts delivery).
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@Silence I am sorry, I just noticed your question (thought it was your sig because of the space so I didn't even look). It isn't necessarily a radio replacement, although you could go that route, but you would need an amplifier (4 channel or 5 channel I believe) so it could handle the audio from the tablet to the speakers in the car and would be a bit more costly/sophisticated installation. Basically think of it this way, you would have two single DIN pieces mounted directly on top of eachother where the bottom would be your single DIN radio, and the top part being the mount for the tablet. Thus needing the double DIN brackets. The pictures will explain the concept once I get this installed in my truck (hopefully this weekend depending on parts delivery).
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no problem, this is still very awesome, i would love to partake anyhow! keep us posted!
hey guys, just to update you I have the cradle ready to go. the mount I am waiting on a part for, at a stand still until then, but it looks good so far and can't wait to get it out to you. has anyone seen any other vehicle mount options in their searches? if so, can you link so I can research those to help improve my design?
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skyfox99 said:
I posted this in a reply in another thread, but thought it better placed in the Accessories Forum.
For those that are interested in a simple way to have their transformer (or any similar sized tablet really) mounted in their vehicle, I am building mounts that will install much like an aftermarker radio would. For this set up, you would need a single DIN radio (not flip out screens like the Pioneer AVIC or anything, just a non motorized single DIN radio. Some of the fancier radios may work, but we haven't done any testing with them, yet). You would need a double DIN radio mounting bracket/harness specific to your vehicle. We are working on ways to customize it a little further based on vehicle specific applications, but right now we feel most standard vehicles should work with this set up. It will probably be a few weeks before our model is ready for production, but I should have pics of a completed install in my '06 Ram before then. The mount will be very secure (as secure as a radio installed) and will be on a 360 swivel allowing for angle adjustment (for passenger viewing, or glare for example) and will also allow both landscape and portrait angles (I believe, we are in the process of testing this theory). If you are at all familiar with installing a radio in a vehicle, than this would be very easy for you and would require very little customization on your end other than getting the mounts specific to your vehicle (pretty easy to do as Best Buy, car audio shops, or the internet sell them pretty cheap). Cost are going to be kept at a minimal to the end user until I can get this going. If you are interested, please PM me with you vehicle year/make/model and with some info about your experience in the vehicle audio market. I am going to be using the XDA forum as my demo crew as much as possible so I could definitely use some product testers (especially if you live in the Dallas-Fort Worth area).
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Nice... I am about to mod the dash of my 2010 F-150 xlt Supercrew, i am going to build a cavity right where factory radio is so that it may slide in and out... i am working on solutions for working with ford sync , and am desperatly waiting to buy OEM cables from Asus so that i may begin testing as i want to make a pop out / swivel for the keyboard dock out of the center console .. i will post pics when i get it going and done right now im waiting on asus to release parts or at least a pin schematic for 40 pin
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Nice... I am about to mod the dash of my 2010 F-150 xlt Supercrew, i am going to build a cavity right where factory radio is so that it may slide in and out... i am working on solutions for working with ford sync , and am desperatly waiting to buy OEM cables from Asus so that i may begin testing as i want to make a pop out / swivel for the keyboard dock out of the center console .. i will post pics when i get it going and done right now im waiting on asus to release parts or at least a pin schematic for 40 pin
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Ditto on the cables. Using a slide out drawer is something we are actually in the process of designing as well, but we are trying to avoid the general consumer having to make any severe modifications or irreversible mods. Why keep the FORD sync system at all? Just curious as the TF would pretty much replace the entire thing in functionality, right? I want to have the complete install done this weekend, but waiting on one part... How large is the radio for the sync system? Is it a traditional din set up?
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i need a mount to go behind my tf so i can put it in landscape can you pm me a pic
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i need a mount to go behind my tf so i can put it in landscape can you pm me a pic
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I would need to see what you have behind that TF and you're bezel to see if this will work. I am using a cradle so it won't sit flush with the dash like you have it in the photos. We are working on the install today, Been told my part will arrive in 24 hours so it should be complete with photos this week.
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I would need to see what you have behind that TF and you're bezel to see if this will work. I am using a cradle so it won't sit flush with the dash like you have it in the photos. We are working on the install today, Been told my part will arrive in 24 hours so it should be complete with photos this week.
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Can. You send me a pic of your mount please. I might buy a few if they are what I'm looking for. I have a few friends that want me to put tabs in there cars.
I will be following this thread, because I am going to mount my TF in a 02 GMC Yukon XL. I have been thinking of ways to mount it already, but will wait to see what your mounting system looks like.
i was wondering if they actually sell a replacement stand for the Thunderbolt anywhere? i know how to take the thing apart just the stand is a bit 'jacked up' i guess you could say(peeling).
also, why the hell did they put the stand on the way they did? you can't charge it and have the stand open at the same time.
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also, why the hell did they put the stand on the way they did? you can't charge it and have the stand open at the same time.
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To sell docks...
Via my HTC Thunderbolt
I want to take mine off and gold plate it... Ha ha
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i was wondering if they actually sell a replacement stand for the Thunderbolt anywhere? i know how to take the thing apart just the stand is a bit 'jacked up' i guess you could say(peeling).
also, why the hell did they put the stand on the way they did? you can't charge it and have the stand open at the same time.
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It's built into and sold with part of the housing.
http://www.repairsuniverse.com/htc-thunderbolt-front-housing-replacement.html
Buy from there or search for the same part elsewhere.
The peeling is pretty common after owning for a while and has been complained about by many users.
I peeled the rest of the filmy stuff off of mine and polished it. It looks better IMO
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I peeled mine off. Use a plastic pen cap. Go with the grain then after you clean it all. Go buy mothers polish or the blue magic polish. Just use a rag and polish it. Looks awesome Chrome look and it has the grain and with Google on it still. I like it better.
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also, why the hell did they put the stand on the way they did? you can't charge it and have the stand open at the same time.
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I just stand it up so it's not in landscape mode
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I just stand it up so it's not in landscape mode
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But my streaming "videos" only play in landscape :/
While it's true they probably did this to sell docks, it might also have been simply due to internal design of the hardware. Remember they try to pack as much silicon into these things as possible, and due to location of processors, memory, gpu, capacitors, backlights, and all the circuitry required to connect them all, they may have simply had no room to squeeze the hinge+usb port on the same side together, whereas theres some dead space on the other end so they just went with that. Maybe they dont want people charging on the kickstand because the backlight would burn out more quickly if you just left it on every night as a bedtime clock. Maybe verizon freaked out and thought we'd all just stream ESPN all day long if we could keep it charged like that and wreck the network.
No, they did it because it's the correct design.
When used in a (car/home/media) dock, the charging port needs to be on the "bottom" (the standard for Android docking is landscape orientation), so it connects when you dock it. You also need the volume rocker on the top, so you can control volume. The bottom in landscape mode is the left side when held in portrait mode - neither the standard video player nor Netflix will play in any other orientation.
Move the USB port to the other side or top/bottom, and then you can't have a (reasonable) docking solution . Changing the kickstand so it opens from the other side, and the volume rocker is now inaccessible on the bottom, and your videos will be upside down (yes, I know Youtube will adapt, but it's the exception).
The kickstand is intended to be used for video when running under battery power. If you want to charge at the same time, get a dock. Given that it's a $600 phone, a $20 dock isn't anything to complain about.
lol mike is absolutely right
http://lifehacker.com/5747897/how-to-build-a-car-mount-for-your-cellphone-from-office-supplies
I'm going to make it this weekend. I'll take pics and let you all know the results.
I have a 1994 Chevy Lumina (It just won't die), and it has a lip that goes over the front dash where the controls are for the heat. I can't stand window mounts, and any other mount I tried, I didn't like.
I tried searching for a car mount that clips or would clip onto something like the front of my dash, and I couldn't find anything. Google brought me to that project, and I am going to try it this weekend.
Anyone else try it? Do you like it? I am pretty stoked to do this, as I am a DIY kind of person.
I'll post back the results after I do it this weekend.
I don't think this will be nearly large enough to hold a Note, not by a long shot. It is an interesting KISS design though. I'm working on a "How To" for making a car dock out of Kydex. It will be far more work then the rubberband/paperclip one pictures, but will be more along the lines of a ProClip in design, but due to having everything in the mail, I wont be starting on the actual build until this weekend at the soonest, and thats if my Kydex sheets come in really fast.
Yes it works one of our interns made one for his Evolution.
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There's quite a size difference between the evo and the note. But then again I may be wrong (wife claims it happens occasionally) .
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This Kickstarter project is about to ship:
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/fusechicken/une-bobine-for-people-who-love-iphone
One of the devices that was tested was a Note, and it performed flawlessly. I backed the project, and will give my review once I get it. Really looking forward to it - works on both desk/countertops as well as in your car.
Be careful when adjusting it, could really bend or break your ports. Otherwise it looks like a cool product. Could see it being great in the car.
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Be careful when adjusting it, could really bend or break your ports. Otherwise it looks like a cool product. Could see it being great in the car.
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For sure. It looks like they made a nice, fat base for the mini USB connector to rest on. Hopefully it will support a good deal of weight. Supposedly it will even hold it in landscape, which I am cautiously optimistic about.
That does look pretty cool. As the others have said, the microusb port is such a shallow port, it may not provide a lot of support if any when adjusting, or if set at an angle of any sorts. Be curious to hear your review when you get it!
Im not impressed. Micro USB ports arent designed to hold weight.
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Im not impressed. Micro USB ports arent designed to hold weight.
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The port doesn't hold the weight. The base does. Same concept as a dock.
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The port doesn't hold the weight. The base does. Same concept as a dock.
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I watched the videos, I dont see where your getting the idea that the base holds the weight. They only show a glimpse of the iphone connector in one of the videos and it doesn't look any different from my ipad2 cable.
I would love to see a Note held horizontally via USB. Its one thing to position an iphone in every position since the port is 100x more secure and locks to an extent.
This has no base. Your USB port will support the entire wieght of the phone. Won't be long before USB port is loose and ceases to function.
By 'base', I mean 'connector plug'. The USB port is on a large plug which distributes the weight across a larger area than if your phone sat on just the cable end. Still, small port, certainly not made to be jostled around on. I bought mine for my desk, so should be fine. Again, more details when I get the thing.
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By 'base', I mean 'connector plug'. The USB port is on a large plug which distributes the weight across a larger area than if your phone sat on just the cable end. Still, small port, certainly not made to be jostled around on. I bought mine for my desk, so should be fine. Again, more details when I get the thing.
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From what I'm seeing that would only be true if the phone were completely balanced at a 90 degree angle otherwise much of the weight is actually distributed as shear stress against the inside of the micro USB plug which is not good.it needs some kind of backplate to cradle with.
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From what I'm seeing that would only be true if the phone were completely balanced at a 90 degree angle otherwise much of the weight is actually distributed as shear stress against the inside of the micro USB plug which is not good.it needs some kind of backplate to cradle with.
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I've asked Jon Fawcett, creator of Une Bobine, to drop by this thread and comment on concerns. I think they are all valid.
Hey all. Meatlocker sent me an email to address your concerns. I'll give some info here, but please feel free to ask more questions of me.
We made 2 substantial changes to the standard details around the micro connector that are intended to resolve the issues with all of the weight on the connector. First, our connector housing for the micro is about the same width as a standard iphone cable. The extra width spreads the weight of the phone to a greater area, which places less weight on the connector itself. Also, if the phone is tilted slightly, the phone body will hit the connector housing and stop the phone from putting additional sideways strain on the connector.
The second thing we did was to make replaceable caps on the housing end. These caps adjust the space between the connector body and the tip of the connector. This essentially adjusts how far out the connector comes. These allow us to reduce or remove the gap between our housing and the body of the phone so that the 2 items listed above are as good as possible. We have 3 caps designed to adjust this spacing to keep the phone tight in position. We also have one cap with a right angle bracket to assist with some side-port phones. And we have another cap that leaves a small portion of the traditional micro end sticking out that will let it fit into cases. Each device comes with all 5 caps.
Of course, these won't solve every phone and every usage. But we have tested with 30 different androids, windows, bb's, and feature phones and these have made the difference for most of them. Also, we don't recommend adjusting the position of the phone while it is connected to the cable except for small amounts to get it to the exact right position.
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Hey all. Meatlocker sent me an email to address your concerns. I'll give some info here, but please feel free to ask more questions of me.
We made 2 substantial changes to the standard details around the micro connector that are intended to resolve the issues with all of the weight on the connector. First, our connector housing for the micro is about the same width as a standard iphone cable. The extra width spreads the weight of the phone to a greater area, which places less weight on the connector itself. Also, if the phone is tilted slightly, the phone body will hit the connector housing and stop the phone from putting additional sideways strain on the connector.
The second thing we did was to make replaceable caps on the housing end. These caps adjust the space between the connector body and the tip of the connector. This essentially adjusts how far out the connector comes. These allow us to reduce or remove the gap between our housing and the body of the phone so that the 2 items listed above are as good as possible. We have 3 caps designed to adjust this spacing to keep the phone tight in position. We also have one cap with a right angle bracket to assist with some side-port phones. And we have another cap that leaves a small portion of the traditional micro end sticking out that will let it fit into cases. Each device comes with all 5 caps.
Of course, these won't solve every phone and every usage. But we have tested with 30 different androids, windows, bb's, and feature phones and these have made the difference for most of them. Also, we don't recommend adjusting the position of the phone while it is connected to the cable except for small amounts to get it to the exact right position.
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Do you guys have any pictures?
Looks cool...but I don't trust it.
I know the Note doesn't weight a ton, but it seems a little top heavy/big to be comfortably used with this thing.
Hmmm...maybe they could come out with something that'll attach to the USB port and allow the phone to be rested on or something to prevent all the weight from being on the phones port?
jimmer411 said:
Do you guys have any pictures?
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http://www.kickstarter.com/projects...or-people-who-love-iphone/posts/238347?page=2
Lots of good pics there (Note included), along with a video of both the micro usb and iPhone connector in action with a phone.
This is a cool idea, and I like that the maker takes time to come and talk. I understand what he means that the weight is on the plug and the base and it seems like it would work fine under ideal use, but my concern is that I would smack it, hit it, knock it over, something that would cause far more then normal amount of weight on the plug. Im glad to see some innovation though, I may give it a whirl, we'll see.
Managed to get my hands on 2 of these and they are great - if you have a smaller phone. I have no problems with HTC wildfire s or Sony Xperia Ray. When it comes to the rather large Samsung gs3 it is a different story. I have to lean the phone forward to get it to charge and this defeats the purpose of the bobine. Also in portrait mode it doesn't charge just rest against the connector casing.
Great idea for small phones! Just hope they can get a solution for larger devices as the concept is great!
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I have a 3D printer and really want to make a nice QI enabled dock. I've started with a very crude design that I made in a matter of minutes. It's definitely a work in progress at this point.
I have uploaded my first design to Thingiverse. I'm printing my first prototype as I write this post. Currently just testing to see if the phone will fit then I will try to clean it up into a final product. If it does turn out to work I plan to design a custom car mount as well.
I have no formal 3D modeling experience or training so this is a fun project for me. Don't bust my balls too bad! Any input is helpful and considered for the final product.
I've started with a rough 3D model someone made prior to the release of the device as a reference. (I did not create the Nexus 6 3D model, I located it on reddit and not sure of the creator) I have already printed it and its very close to the correct size and dimensions.
http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:563159
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Nice work. I'll be watching this thread.
What do you have planned? Do you know what Qi charger you're going to use? I'm a huge fan of stuff like this!
-J
As you've got the design, the dock is going to be VERY top-heavy when the N6 is in it, making it prone to tipping over. The front and back of the base should probably be a bit less vertical, and more beveled, allowing a wider base. This will increase the footprint of the doc, but will be a lot more stable.
Otherwise, looks really good. I don't think I've ever seen anyone else make a truly upright (90 degree) qi dock. I'd be interested in this for sure.
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As you've got the design, the dock is going to be VERY top-heavy when the N6 is in it, making it prone to tipping over. The front and back of the base should probably be a bit less vertical, and more beveled, allowing a wider base. This will increase the footprint of the doc, but will be a lot more stable.
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I agreed with you after reading your post. However I have completed the prototype and its not as top heavy as imagined. I think the fact that its inset into the base does a good job of lowering the weight/center of gravity.
I have not decided which QI charge I want to use. I've never used one before and will definitely have to do some research. I used the vertical design because like I said the end goal is to make a car dock as well. My end goal is to have something like the Motorola car dock I had for my Atrix.
The print warped on the bed slightly at the outer limits. Pushing the limits of my heated bed so there isn't great adhesion. The "Nexus" logo in the front came out well. Now that that's out of the way here's some photos.
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I took some pictures with the 3D modeled Nexus 6 which fits much better. (Of course that's because I used it to make the dock). It definitely shows the differences between the model and the phone. The actual phone tapers down much thinner at the bottom compared to the top. This is going to be my biggest challenge to recreate in a 3D model.
Just wish I had a 3D scanner to make an exact model to use which would simply things. Can anybody help me there?
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Oh! This is a landscape dock. I totally didn't get that from your original post. That makes a huge difference. My recommendations were for a portrait dock, where it would have been a lot more top-heavy.
Now that I see your intention, the only recommendation I'd make is some sort of latch at the top of the dock, or to make the side-holders a bit higher, say up to the bottom of the speakers. Otherwise, hard acceleration, especially when turning, may cause the N6 to pop out. I know the corners are held pretty well now, but a good accelerated turn could cause enough lift of one corner to allow it to pop out. (Obviously, that's not needed for THIS version.... just the car dock version.)
Of course, if someone at Google/Moto had thought of... oh, I don't know... metal discs or something, so that you could use magnets to hold it... Now, where have I seen that used? Um... oh yeah! The Nexus 5!
Wow this is nice! Top marks for creativity and attempting to make something like this.
Just out of interest where did you get the 3D printer from and how much if you don't mind me asking?
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Wow this is nice! Top marks for creativity and attempting to make something like this.
Just out of interest where did you get the 3D printer from and how much if you don't mind me asking?
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I bought a Makerfarm Prusa I3 8" which I got for around $500. I put some money into an auto leveling setup and upgraded hotend. Overall around $600.
That being said it takes quite a bit of tuning to have it run correctly. I have spent many hours/days tuning this one. Finally got it running smoothly. I bought it used and had to fix a lot of things the original owner didn't put together correctly.
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Now that I see your intention, the only recommendation I'd make is some sort of latch at the top of the dock, or to make the side-holders a bit higher, say up to the bottom of the speakers. Otherwise, hard acceleration, especially when turning, may cause the N6 to pop out. I know the corners are held pretty well now, but a good accelerated turn could cause enough lift of one corner to allow it to pop out. (Obviously, that's not needed for THIS version.... just the car dock version.)
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Yes those were my plans for the car dock version. Still working on the design for a latch that grabs the top to secure it. Here's a photo of the Atrix car dock that is my inspiration.
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Project on hold.
One of my thermistor wires broke. Waiting for a new one to come in so I can get my 3D printer back up and running.
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I've changed the design a bit. It no longer goes all the way up the back of the device. It is now a block style dock with a slight 30° angle which it sits inside. Will try to print it out and post pictures tonight/tomorrow
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looks much better and i'm sure it prints faster without the highback
I dig that! Can't wait to see it printed!
Here it is. Still needs some fine tuning but works well.
Will put the design on thingiverse with a link soon so others can download and print it!
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looks much better and i'm sure it prints faster without the highback
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It did print much quicker without the high back.
I've almost given up the QI charger idea since I purchased a Tylt VU on sale. Will try to find a cheap QI charger and finish the project in the future.
Thinking about purchasing an accurate 3D model of the Nexus 6 so I can make custom cases and even better fitting docks. At this point I'm not sure if it would be worth the investment.
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It did print much quicker without the high back.
I've almost given up the QI charger idea since I purchased a Tylt VU on sale. Will try to find a cheap QI charger and finish the project in the future.
Thinking about purchasing an accurate 3D model of the Nexus 6 so I can make custom cases and even better fitting docks. At this point I'm not sure if it would be worth the investment.
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Just be proud of what you accomplished so far!
3d model nexus 6 case
Hi there,
I wanted to print a 3d case for my nexus,
but i can't find any good templates, and i have no experience of creating one on my one.
Is there anyone who has a 3d case model for the nexus 6, or is able to make one?
Hey kkl0wn,
I was hoping you could post your v2 of the landscape dock up on thingiverse? I just got access to a 3D printer and would love to print this for my phone!
I'd like to print this on my Ultimaker, will you post a link to V2? Thanks!