Getting Replacement Fascinate. Best Root method? - Fascinate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I'm assuming it will come with either ED01 or ED03.
In past, I would just Odin deodexed EB01 (since it has root in package) and then flash whatever rom I want. Was on Evil Fascination and will probably go back to that.
Just wondering if that is easiest route or if I should go thru the copy update.zip, SU, busybox method? Or another method?
Thanks!

reisb said:
I'm assuming it will come with either ED01 or ED03.
In past, I would just Odin deodexed EB01 (since it has root in package) and then flash whatever rom I want. Was on Evil Fascination and will probably go back to that.
Just wondering if that is easiest route or if I should go thru the copy update.zip, SU, busybox method? Or another method?
Thanks!
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Flash this via cwm recovery: http://www.mediafire.com/?38vozx7n37u02a5 When you flash this su zip, after the phone boots download titanium backup and open it. It will tell you that it could not acquire root privileges but simply hit the "problems" button and the hit the "get busy box" button. Boom, you're rooted. So naturally you will have to odin cwm recovery first. Here is the link: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/36791/CWM3_Voodoo.tar.md5
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kidserious said:
Flash this via cwm recovery: http://www.mediafire.com/?38vozx7n37u02a5 When you flash this su zip, after the phone boots download titanium backup and open it. It will tell you that it could not acquire root privileges but simply hit the "problems" button and the hit the "get busy box" button. Boom, you're rooted. So naturally you will have to odin cwm recovery first. Here is the link: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/36791/CWM3_Voodoo.tar.md5
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In looking at info on the cwm3_voodoo.tar.md5 file, I read this:
NOTICE:
If you are nonvoodoo and plan to stay nonvoodoo make sure you have a disable-lagfix file in the voodoo folder on your sdcard
For some reason, even though this is a recovery it's still doing the voodoo conversion.
So from here on out, I am not responsible for your spontaneous voodoo conversions.
YOU'VE BEEN WARNED
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It can't convert to voodoo if it's not rooted yet, right? So I shouldn't have issues odin'ing cwm3, boot into recovery, and then flash su file?
It also says flash kernel of choice if coming from stock. Is that necessary prior to updating busybox in TiB? Does stock kernel break the root once it boots? Or can I still get to TiB and then flash custom EF rom, which has a kernel included?

reisb said:
In looking at info on the cwm3_voodoo.tar.md5 file, I read this:
NOTICE:
If you are nonvoodoo and plan to stay nonvoodoo make sure you have a disable-lagfix file in the voodoo folder on your sdcard
For some reason, even though this is a recovery it's still doing the voodoo conversion.
So from here on out, I am not responsible for your spontaneous voodoo conversions.
YOU'VE BEEN WARNED
***************************************
It can't convert to voodoo if it's not rooted yet, right? So I shouldn't have issues odin'ing cwm3, boot into recovery, and then flash su file?
It also says flash kernel of choice if coming from stock. Can't do that either until rooted, right?
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Yes, it can convert to voodoo without being rooted. You should be able to flash that recovery with no issues.

Use this recovery instead:http://www.mediafire.com/?06al8prkgj29gps No voodoo conversions

kidserious said:
Use this recovery instead:http://www.mediafire.com/?06al8prkgj29gps No voodoo conversions
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Thanks. Looks like you responded while I was editing my post.
Will I need to flash a kernel after odin'ing cwm right after installing SU zip due to stock kernel breaking root?

reisb said:
Thanks. Looks like you responded while I was editing my post.
Will I need to flash a kernel after odin'ing cwm right after installing SU zip due to stock kernel breaking root?
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You have to install the recovery first and then you flash the su zip from that recovery. Once you are rooted the stock kernel won't break your root.
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reisb said:
Thanks. Looks like you responded while I was editing my post.
Will I need to flash a kernel after odin'ing cwm right after installing SU zip due to stock kernel breaking root?
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Stock kernel won't break your root, but it will convert you back to stock recovery if you let the phone reboot. So if you are planning on flashing a custom ROM, you are probably better off flashing the custom kernel right after flashing the SU zip. Then you can flash your choice of custom rom in another CWM session without having to ODIN CWM again.

reisb said:
I'm assuming it will come with either ED01 or ED03.
In past, I would just Odin deodexed EB01 (since it has root in package) and then flash whatever rom I want. Was on Evil Fascination and will probably go back to that.
Just wondering if that is easiest route or if I should go thru the copy update.zip, SU, busybox method? Or another method?
Thanks!
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If your intending on going back to a custom rom then why are you wanting to root stock? Just flash cwm then rom, kernel of choice.

ODIN ====> CWM. Best way!

A recovery only flash should not do conversion. If it does then the person who made the flashable zip/ tar did not take out blm8.
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MattRussNC said:
If your intending on going back to a custom rom then why are you wanting to root stock? Just flash cwm then rom, kernel of choice.
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How would I flash a custom rom if the phone is not rooted? I don't think EF or CommRom contain root in the rom zip

reisb said:
How would I flash a custom rom if the phone is not rooted? I don't think EF or CommRom contain root in the rom zip
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If you Odin cwm recovery and flash a custom rom it will root your phone. If CR and EF didn't contain root then people would lose root when flashing them. This is not the case. They have root, flash away. And you can flash a custom rom without being rooted. Root access gives you root permissions when operating the phone when it is on. When you boot into cwm recovery the phone itself isn't booted. Cwm recovery is a form of root access in itself.
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[Q] sorry for the noob question

do I have/need to apply the update.zip after flashing a new rom??
DCrozier28 said:
do I have/need to apply the update.zip after flashing a new rom??
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which update.zip are you talking about?
The one that roots you?
or a rom/addon renamed to update.zip?
the short answer is usually no.
if you flash a rom with root (which is most of them) then you wont have to re-root with the update.zip
if you flash back to stock firmware with no root, then you'll have to re-root with the update.zip
I down loaded the rom to my phone. When I went to CWM to flash there were to files. The rom to flash and the other was update.zip. Didn't know if I should reboot to recovery and apply update.zip.
DCrozier28 said:
I down loaded the rom to my phone. When I went to CWM to flash there were to files. The rom to flash and the other was update.zip. Didn't know if I should reboot to recovery and apply update.zip.
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as long as your already rooted you should be fine, the update.zip is probably left over from when you rooted, I've been through quite a few roms and I still have mine on there
as long as you can get to Clockworkmod Recovery you should be good to go with just flashing the rom.

[Q] Not rebooting into CwM

So i updated OTA to 2.2 and then rooted my Fascinate. Now I'm trying to flash a new rom using Rom Manager but whenever I try to install a rom or reboot into recovery i get the error
-- Install from package...
Finding update package...
Opening update package...
Verifying update package...
E:failed to verify whole-file signature
E:signature verification failed
Installation aborted.
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And then it puts me in Stock Android Recovery. Any ideas on why this is happening and how I can fix it? Thanks
RepAZ said:
So i updated OTA to 2.2 and then rooted my Fascinate. Now I'm trying to flash a new rom using Rom Manager but whenever I try to install a rom or reboot into recovery i get the error
And then it puts me in Stock Android Recovery. Any ideas on why this is happening and how I can fix it? Thanks
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The consensus seems to be not to use ROM manager and to ODIN Clockwork Recovery Manager. Unfortunately there seems to be a little mentioned bug where CWM won't stay after the 1st time you reboot and I can't find a solution to this yet.
phonefiend said:
The consensus seems to be not to use ROM manager and to ODIN Clockwork Recovery Manager. Unfortunately there seems to be a little mentioned bug where CWM won't stay after the 1st time you reboot and I can't find a solution to this yet.
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CWM will stay after you boot but you need to change your kernel. After you boot stock kernel overwrites cwm. Definately use odin to flash cwm, boot to recovery, should be red, flash custom kernel. I use JT's undervolted voodoo. If you voodoo itll take a little while to boot while voodoo converts your system.
islandtime said:
CWM will stay after you boot but you need to change your kernel. After you boot stock kernel overwrites cwm. Definately use odin to flash cwm, boot to recovery, should be red, flash custom kernel. I use JT's undervolted voodoo. If you voodoo itll take a little while to boot while voodoo converts your system.
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Island beat me to it but he is exactly correct. I kept the stock kernel at first but i had to ODIN CWM 2 times as the first time it was blue but after 2nd time it was red. But the best way is to flash a custom Kernel which will keep it red
islandtime said:
CWM will stay after you boot but you need to change your kernel. After you boot stock kernel overwrites cwm. Definately use odin to flash cwm, boot to recovery, should be red, flash custom kernel. I use JT's undervolted voodoo. If you voodoo itll take a little while to boot while voodoo converts your system.
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What I meant to say is what you said above: you can boot into CWM right after you flash it, but if you restart again it will go into stock recovery.
fitti28 said:
Island beat me to it but he is exactly correct. I kept the stock kernel at first but i had to ODIN CWM 2 times as the first time it was blue but after 2nd time it was red. But the best way is to flash a custom Kernel which will keep it red
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I've ODIN'd CWM multiple times but it still gets overwritten with the stock recovery. I'd like to stick with the stock ED01 kernel but can't find any ZIPs to flash this kernel via CWM.
You need to get the 3e recovery and put in /system/bin/ I had the same thing happen to me.. look up 3e recovery. It a common problem when the Galaxy S is updated to 2.2. Once you put the recovery file into the /system/bin/ you can flash CWM and it will all be good
Good Luck
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Allmaechtig said:
You need to get the 3e recovery and put in /system/bin/ I had the same thing happen to me.. look up 3e recovery. It a common problem when the Galaxy S is updated to 2.2. Once you put the recovery file into the /system/bin/ you can flash CWM and it will all be good
Good Luck
PM me & let me know how it goes
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I can't find anything on that, can you point me to the thread you followed?
Allmaechtig said:
You need to get the 3e recovery and put in /system/bin/ I had the same thing happen to me.. look up 3e recovery. It a common problem when the Galaxy S is updated to 2.2. Once you put the recovery file into the /system/bin/ you can flash CWM and it will all be good
Good Luck
PM me & let me know how it goes
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No, what is needed to get into CWM is you need to flash CWM via Odin. Take the battery out when going into download mode. After flashing, unplug the USB cable and put the battery back in. When you go to start the phone, boot straight into recovery. The stock kernel reflashes recovery on every boot, so if you boot the phone normally, the phone will continue to have stock recovery. Once in CWM, flash a custom kernel and you'll be set as the custom kernels don't reflash recovery on boot.
imnuts said:
No, what is needed to get into CWM is you need to flash CWM via Odin. Take the battery out when going into download mode. After flashing, unplug the USB cable and put the battery back in. When you go to start the phone, boot straight into recovery. The stock kernel reflashes recovery on every boot, so if you boot the phone normally, the phone will continue to have stock recovery. Once in CWM, flash a custom kernel and you'll be set as the custom kernels don't reflash recovery on boot.
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This is unfortunate because I used to run a version of CWM just fine with the stock EB01 kernel. With the current CWMs I finally found a way to get it to work with the stock kernel: rename /system/etc/install-recovery.sh.
got it working yay
BlackHoleSlam said:
got it working yay
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Tell us how.
i just waited some time and placed the debinged rom from adrenylne on my sd card then used the 3-30 tar and put my self in red voodoo flashed a different kernel theme then rom and all is good

update.zip to root 2.1

does anyone have the update.zip to root this phone, on 2.1?
i have the root update.zip for all versions except the verizon, can anyone link me to the correct update.zip to root this phone on 2.1? ill give you some thanks, please help me out
soraxd said:
does anyone have the update.zip to root this phone, on 2.1?
i have the root update.zip for all versions except the verizon, can anyone link me to the correct update.zip to root this phone on 2.1? ill give you some thanks, please help me out
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why not flash pentafives ed05 2.2 then root? is there a reason you want to stay on eclair? I believe superoneclick works on 2.1
its been a long time since ive done this, but dont you have to root, to flash clockwork recovery, to allow you to flash a custom rom? (in that order)
soraxd said:
its been a long time since ive done this, but dont you have to root, to flash clockwork recovery, to allow you to flash a custom rom? (in that order)
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no thats old school...most roms here are prerooted now. u can simply odin powerwashed eh09 gingerbread and be rooted, debloated, and ready to roll. then go back to odin and flash cwm 2.5.x, so you can do nandroid backups and flash other roms like tsm 1.0. If you want aosp mtd roms such as miui,cm7, tsm pool party, all you need to do is odin cwm4 fixed for cm7, three finger boot into recovery, wipe data,cache,dalvik, and install mtd zip. Once it boots never use three finger recovery again. you can access recovery by long pressing the power button. pre rooting is a thing of the past and is only needed if your looking to stay on a stock rom to debloat, and use root apps such as wireless tether, root explorer, tibu, etc...
im trying to stay away from using a computer, can i just go to the market, dl rom manager, flash cwm, and flash my com rom?
soraxd said:
im trying to stay away from using a computer, can i just go to the market, dl rom manager, flash cwm, and flash my com rom?
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nope, rom manager only works "ok" with mtd based roms...I highly suggest you use a computer and familiarize yourself with odin or heimdall. I don't think there is a root method out there that will work without a pc for the fascinate.
so then i NEED to be rooted, to flash cwm?
this is what im thinking
connect to pc, and use 1 click root, to root my 2.1 stock phone
dl rom manager from the market, and flash the cwm
install my customrom.zip (com rom)
all done?
soraxd said:
so then i NEED to be rooted, to flash cwm?
this is what im thinking
connect to pc, and use 1 click root, to root my 2.1 stock phone
dl rom manager from the market, and flash the cwm
install my customrom.zip (com rom)
all done?
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yes in this case you will need to be rooted to flash cwm, since you doing it thru rom manager... those steps should work

CWM recovery question?

So let me see if i understand this correctly. From what i have read, it looks like i cant install CWM recovery without installing a custom Kernel? So me backing up my stock set up is pretty much out of the question? So everytime i wish to install a different custom rom i am essentailly reinstalling CWM recovery as well?
How can i backup my stock set up and restore it if i screw something up, or install a rom that i am not happy with? I am coming rom an epic 4g on sprint and it was different with that galaxy phone.
Flash a CF Root kernel that matches your firmware, create your near stock b/u. This will be your point to fall back on. 99.99% of ROMs you flash will include a kernel, that also has CWM, it may be a different version but they all work the same, for the most part. The majority of kernels include CWMr 5 or higher.
You'll always have the option of restoring your "stock" b/u so long as you don't delete it. Titanium b/u is the ticket to back up all your apps and their data rather than having to extract those apps/data from a CWM b/u.
You only have to root once. The easiest way to unroot is to flash a stock firmware. Flashing a stock kernel back on after you've rooted will replace CWM recovery with stock recovery, but you'll remain rooted. Probably doesn't address all your questions, but you've got a start.
mudferret said:
Flash a CF Root kernel that matches your firmware, create your near stock b/u. This will be your point to fall back on. 99.99% of ROMs you flash will include a kernel, that also has CWM, it may be a different version but they all work the same, for the most part. The majority of kernels include CWMr 5 or higher.
You'll always have the option of restoring your "stock" b/u so long as you don't delete it. Titanium b/u is the ticket to back up all your apps and their data rather than having to extract those apps/data from a CWM b/u.
You only have to root once. The easiest way to unroot is to flash a stock firmware. Flashing a stock kernel back on after you've rooted will replace CWM recovery with stock recovery, but you'll remain rooted. Probably doesn't address all your questions, but you've got a start.
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forgot to mention that i am rooted now. using oneclickroot.
Just flash a custom kernel with CWM recovery installed inside.
Such as:
- Siyah
- Phoenix
- Ninphetamine
etc...
DO NOT FLASH STOCK KERNEL AS IT WILL DELETE CWM RECOVERY. ROM MANAGER DOES NOT INSTALL RECOVERY ON YOUR PHONE.
nicholaschum said:
Just flash a custom kernel with CWM recovery installed inside.
Such as:
- Siyah
- Phoenix
- Ninphetamine
etc...
DO NOT FLASH STOCK KERNEL AS IT WILL DELETE CWM RECOVERY. ROM MANAGER DOES NOT INSTALL RECOVERY ON YOUR PHONE.
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is it as simple as using Odin, clicking PDA and flashing the downloaded kernel? and there should be no side effects from using a custom kernel such as Siyah?
Getting back to 100% stock is easy, odin flash a rom.
CF root *is* the stock kernel, just with some bits added (CWM recovery and root).
CF root with your stock rom is defo the safest bet.
jerseykat1 said:
is it as simple as using Odin, clicking PDA and flashing the downloaded kernel? and there should be no side effects from using a custom kernel such as Siyah?
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Yes if you get the kernel in odin tar file, otherwise flash CF root and use CWM recovery to flash the zips.

Just Clockworkmod?

I have a i9100. Is there a Odin flashable of CWM by itself? I want to have a standard version of CWM to always be able to flash back to.
hodiedodie said:
I have a i9100. Is there a Odin flashable of CWM by itself? I want to have a standard version of CWM to always be able to flash back to.
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its called cf root, you can download it from chainfire's thread in our original development section. Find the matching cf root of your rom version and flash it via odin
bala_gamer said:
its called cf root, you can download it from chainfire's thread in our original development section. Find the matching cf root of your rom version and flash it via odin
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Thanks. But I was actually meaning just the recovery without the changes to the actual ROM. I have settled for using Odin to flash the Siyah Kernel to get that custom recovery without making detrimental changes to the ROM.
hodiedodie said:
Thanks. But I was actually meaning just the recovery without the changes to the actual ROM. I have settled for using Odin to flash the Siyah Kernel to get that custom recovery without making detrimental changes to the ROM.
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SGS2 doesn't have a separate recovery partition so it's not possible to install CWM without changing kernels, CF Root is the stock kernel with su and busybox installed, that's the closest you can get to no changes.
ok you have to do all this for that....
1: flash ROM you want
2: root using clockwork mod
3: flash back your ROM's stock kernel
4: install mobile Odin
5: flash the attached kernel [zimage] using mobile Odin [extract the zimage file from tar]
now you have a working stock ROM with clockwork mod

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