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Hi guys.
I've had sarah (my Nokia 6020) since God-knows-when (!), and so I'm not familiar with the modern cell phones and their characteristics.
I really like X10, but its lack of multi-touch is a little annoying, and some friends have told me to buy a phone which supports multi-touch.
I wanna know what exactly I will miss if I buy X10 and ignore its lack of multi-touch? Is it only important in games? How frequently games use multi-touch and is it impossible to play multi-touch games in X10?
Thanks.
Hi - Basically - it's only certain games which really need to use multitouch.. ones where you have to do 2 things at once.. there are some options to overcome this in certain cases, such as using a Wii Remote paired with your phone.. Personally I am not bothered at all about the lack of multitouch, because there are lots of games you can get which don't need MT... There are many good reasons to get one which, for me at least far outway the lack of MT.
At first I was hesitant to buy the X10 cuz it didn't support MT as well. It's a big step for me cuz I've never used a smart phone before but I do know lots about it lol. To be honest, I really don't think multi touch is an important feature, unless you're really into games that needs it. I've had the X10 for almost a month now and I absolutely love it there are great games in the App store that doesn't need multi touch like Radiant, Abduction, Totemo, etc etc. You should definitely get Rachael, you won't be disappointed
Not really, but there is talk about that in 2.1, but we don't talk about that here... MT is a taboo topic
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lack of mt is quite bad for gaming. example game like pspxdroid for playing pspx game and other action game. the point is a problem is a problem if u think is a problem. if you really want a phone with mt , end of the day it just going to come and hunt you if u get a x10 if u dun mind wait for 2.1 and see is there mt which some said there is, if not you can get desire or galaxy s which both are great phone.
Do you use your phone to call people...?
I do, and I don't need multi-touch for that.
If you're coming from an old dumb-phone, either you don't need multi-touch, or you're expecting your new phone to change your life in ways you never thought possible.
Trust me, the x10 will not change your life in ways you never thought possible, and no, you don't need multi-touch...
Thank you everyone, your opinion is really helpful.
Considering the fact that I'm a gamer, I think MT will be needed for me someday, but I understand I shouldn't overvalue it.
Why is it making a decision about a cell phone to buy is so hard? It's a lot easier with PCs, laptops, wives, Digicams, MP3 Players, ...
I studied a lot about X10 and MT and I'm almost certain that there will be no MT for X10 (SE made it clear 5-6 days after the rumor about MT in 2.1 started).
Ah, and every phone has its pros and cons and it makes no sense to consider them as "taboo".
mahi58 said:
Thank you everyone, your opinion is really helpful.
Considering the fact that I'm a gamer, I think MT will be needed for me someday, but I understand I shouldn't overvalue it.
Why is it making a decision about a cell phone to buy is so hard? It's a lot easier with PCs, laptops, wives, Digicams, MP3 Players, ...
I studied a lot about X10 and MT and I'm almost certain that there will be no MT for X10 (SE made it clear 5-6 days after the rumor about MT in 2.1 started).
Ah, and every phone has its pros and cons and it makes no sense to consider them as "taboo".
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there have also been reports of the touch panel manufacturers saying that they can enable MT on their ST pad with trickery too.
so i wouldnt believe anything anyone says for now. and just wait.
but if you are a 'gamer' then buy a psp or something.. its a mobile phone not a console/gaming pc
The point is that multitouch for as i know is used in web browsers and in games.Someone correct me if i am wrong.So if you would like to play the you should buy a PSP or Nintendo or whatever portable console, for more than one reason. My PSP's battery for example lasts up to 5 hours of intense gaming, and you still have the phone for calling, internet and so on.The control is better on the handheld console with or without multitouch.
But... since almost all smartphones have multitouch it whould be nice to have this feature even if i would not use it often.
So the bottom line is that i have a PSP for gaming so i really do not need the multitouch feature.
I'm playing Diablo 1 on psx4droid and haven't noticed any problems so far (except laggy video and sound stuttering which seems to be common for most devices). Good native android games are yet to come. If you're looking to play some decent games now, then go for PSP.
And by the way, HTC also stated there will be no mt for G1 so we shall see...
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there have also been reports of the touch panel manufacturers saying that they can enable MT on their ST pad with trickery too.
so i wouldnt believe anything anyone says for now. and just wait.
but if you are a 'gamer' then buy a psp or something.. its a mobile phone not a console/gaming pc
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well but mobile's game can be as fun too. looking a iphone they got lots got great and simple game. help to kill times when u travel to work or school.
hi
any confirm on x10 clearpad?which model is used on it?1000,2000 or 3000
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any confirm on x10 clearpad?which model is used on it?1000,2000 or 3000
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I guess none of the above. Why would they bother with adding custom driver if the device was Synaptics compatibile?
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I guess none of the above. Why would they bother with adding custom driver if the device was Synaptics compatibile?
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is there any way to find it?online supports agents dont know about this.
because im not sure x10 has a hardware problem!!they used clearpad 2000 for mini!!
what about x10?
no big ee for me, fat fingers lol
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Why is it making a decision about a cell phone to buy is so hard? It's a lot easier with PCs, laptops, wives, Digicams, MP3 Players, ....
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Does your wife know she's third in your list, eh? Lmfao!
The lack of hardware support for MT if true is a puzzling omission on the part of SE. The IPhone has had MT I think since the beginning & to leave out the feature from a flagship product is a fumble on SE's part IMO.
The phone over all is a great device even without MT but if gaming is a priority for you I would take a pass on the X10, & look for a device that supports MT not one that may support it.
Guys, please...
Of course I have a PSP!
But, 2 things make me care about my phone's gaming potential too:
1. I don't always carry my PSP around, and even if I have it, I can'y play with it everywhere (I am 30 years old )!
2. PSP is a very old device and its games are mostly the same with phone games, without touch controls. I don't think PSP is that much better than a phone for gaming (a lot of my friends have the same opinion).
I generally don't like the idea that it's a phone ==> if you need something else from your phone go buy something else...
I can't carry around a lot of gadgets...
Does your wife know she's third in your list, eh? Lmfao!
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You're gonna envy me about this: I don't have a wife! LMFAO too.
i fully agree with you i also dont carry psp with me every time.
hello im new here. i dont have hd2 but interested on it . is it true that u can run android 2.2 froyo rom in this phone? please share thanks
yes, go look in the android thread in here
just buy the new HTC Desire HD and you are done
yes, but the device was never meant to be for android, better to get an adroid device if ur interested in it.
no its all lies.
Yeah, it is just a rumor proliferated by some Android fanboys jealous of our hardware.
So if I buy htc hd2 is it for sure ill get android on it and also windoes. I think its awesome. I saw it on gsmarena website that they put android 2.2 rom in hd2
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My friend has android on his HD2, he complains about its functionality a lot!
So i guess it's better to stick to WM and use CHT for a better interface
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My friend has android on his HD2, he complains about its functionality a lot!
So i guess it's better to stick to WM and use CHT for a better interface
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+1
Android = No good on Hd2
An entire os running from an SD card is rather clunky and just cant really compete.
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Android = No good on Hd2
An entire os running from an SD card is rather clunky and just cant really compete.
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To offer an alternative view:
I've recently switched to running Android permanently on my HD2. I've even flashed the ChuckyDROID cut-down winmo ROM designed to boot Android as quickly as possible, so I'm not even using winmo as a fallback.
Recent HD2 Android builds are quite stable, and the performance and battery life is easily comparable to what I had under WinMo. I use Bangsters version, and it's great; there are many others reported to be working fine too.
It does take a bit of reading to find a good combination of the available options to suit your needs - the most important thing I found was to get the right radio version and a suitable winmo ROM build flashed to your device.
There's plenty of information on how to get it all working in the HD2 Android Development forum, but I can vouch that it does work.
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To offer an alternative view:
I've recently switched to running Android permanently on my HD2. I've even flashed the ChuckyDROID cut-down winmo ROM designed to boot Android as quickly as possible, so I'm not even using winmo as a fallback.
Recent HD2 Android builds are quite stable, and the performance and battery life is easily comparable to what I had under WinMo. I use Bangsters version, and it's great; there are many others reported to be working fine too.
It does take a bit of reading to find a good combination of the available options to suit your needs - the most important thing I found was to get the right radio version and a suitable winmo ROM build flashed to your device.
There's plenty of information on how to get it all working in the HD2 Android Development forum, but I can vouch that it does work.
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+1 on this. Android has come a very long way. However, this IS a WinMo phone and I would not recommend that you buy it if your intention is using android as your primary OS. There are TONS of devices out there now that are either identical to or better than the HD2 in hardware and they run android flawlessly as the primary OS.
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+1 on this. Android has come a very long way. However, this IS a WinMo phone and I would not recommend that you buy it if your intention is using android as your primary OS. There are TONS of devices out there now that are either identical to or better than the HD2 in hardware and they run android flawlessly as the primary OS.
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TONS is really a bit overstated.
Samsung has Android phones of comparable hardware, however most of them perform bsdly (If the reviews are right) and running on Android 1.6,,,,
There are only a few phones comparable not tons.
If one comes from WinMo, it is a nice option to run Android.
I have not(yet) heard of Android devices running WinMo.
The HD2 is still the most powerfull machine around beeing able to run both.
Completely switching to Android is a very definitive step in my opinion.
Beeing able to switch between the two is (again, n my opinion) a big plus.
Also: NAND is apparently just around the corner, meaning one can FLASH Android on the HD2, thus no longer run it from SD. (And loosing dual boot possibilities) This should perform better, and since the IO is not going to SD, probably the batterylife will be longer.
As rumours go: It should be possible to flash to Android and back to WinMo
Another great option for this remarkable machine.
But enough of pro-HD2 talk, Could you give me a list of phones beeing able to do all that?
The Droid X, Droid2, All the variants of the Samsung Galaxy, Desire HD, EVO, Nexus One, Droid Incredible. 3.7" on a couple of those but they are still very similar devices hardware wise. Since xda members make sure to root every phone weeks before it even launches the version of android that it happens to be running is sort of a moot point.
Compared to the options that were out there when the HD2 came out, I consider this tons.
But I think the point of my post was missed entirely. I would never trade the HD2 for any of them. It is by far the BEST phone for ME.
However, I cannot recommend someone buying a phone with the sole intent of running an alternate OS when there are so many similar options out that are designed with android. The HD2 may be the most versatile phone out there but aside from those of us who are able/willing/committed/experienced enough to take advantage of that, your average user typically is not happy with it. I have had 3 people I work with purchase the phone (despite my warning) after seeing what I have done with it. 2 of them returned it. The 3rd constantly complains to me about x y and z.
Anyway, my point was that the OP should consider whether they are getting the phone only to run android. If that is the case, they should take a look at some other options before doing so.
Like posted above, I would not buy this phone if your main intention is running Android. But if you are interested in dual booting Android and Winmo then this is the best choice. I use both an equal amount of time, my info is in my signature and I can tell you I am extremely happy. WinMo will always be my primary but it's nice to use Android to sample a few new games or listen to Pandora. I prefer the option of which to use so I will never flash the Nand version.
But finding the right combination is really up to you as a lot can depend on your Winmo build of choice, the radio, and which Android build you use as different combinations can have varying results. For example I use the builds in my sig with that radio as it works best for me in my area in terms of battery life and connection speed. Now someone in say, New York may get better results with a different radio or different WinMo build. It's up to you to try them all
Maybe it's me but way will people buy a WM device if thy will/need a Android?
Okay fore people who have there HD2 already, and thy will switching to Android I could understand (white lots of imagination)
but peoples who don't ha a device, and must buy one way you will buy a WM device if you need a Android?
I don't understand it!
it's the same fore me to buy a diesel car and after that I will transform it to a engine car!?
not to blame peoples but way make live complicate?
kurt-willems said:
Maybe it's me but way will people buy a WM device if thy will/need a Android?
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Perhaps because they are used to WinMo and would like to eperiment with Android?
kurt-willems said:
Okay fore people who have there HD2 already, and thy will switching to Android I could understand (white lots of imagination)
but peoples who don't ha a device, and must buy one way you will buy a WM device if you need a Android?
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Well: Use proven technology, while beeeing able to experiment with Android and eveluate its possibilities/capabilities.
HD2 is the top on speccs and has dual boot capability.
kurt-willems said:
I don't understand it!
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I do: it's a hacker thing, beeing able to put things to your hand, make it do what you want, not what it is intended for.
kurt-willems said:
it's the same fore me to buy a diesel car and after that I will transform it to a engine car!?
not to blame peoples but way make live complicate?
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It is not the same, it is like buying a Diesel car, adding a petrol engine and using whatever you want (either depending on fuel price, or depending on driving style you want to experience that moment)
Running Android of SD Card is not transforming your device, it is extending it's capabilities.
One can experiment with Android while it is still possible to "revert" to WinMo.
eg: during the office hours WinMo, in the evening Android, as a hobby, from interest, playing games fill in....
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The Droid X, Droid2, All the variants of the Samsung Galaxy, Desire HD, EVO, Nexus One, Droid Incredible. 3.7" on a couple of those but they are still very similar devices hardware wise. [...]
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still no TONS....
Quite a few, but it is not like HD2 is completely outclassed by these devices....
But remains: wich ones can do dual boot?....
Rest my case
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still no TONS....
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Semantics
Quite a few, but it is not like HD2 is completely outclassed by these devices....
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You are correct. The HD2 is absolutely not outclassed by any of those devices and I never said it was. I simply noted that they are very similar in terms of hardware. The EVO is perhaps the only one that has same or better stats in all areas. My wife has an EVO but I personally perfer my HD2 because of the dual-boot versatility you mentioned.
But remains: wich ones can do dual boot?....
Rest my case
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AFAIK none. But I don't think that is relevant to the advice I gave.
To reiterate: Buying the HD2 with the intention of running android as the primary OS is in my opinion a mistake. There are better options that do not require -
a) running off of the SD card
b) changing the radio (and possibly the ROM as well)
c) 99% functionality
d) waiting (and hoping) for a quick nand solution
However, already owning an HD2 and deciding that you are bored with WM is completely understandable. If the OP is good with tech/gagets, experienced with WinMo, enjoys the occasional hard-reset when tweaking has gone awry, and wants a phone that can dual-boot WM and droid, then the HD2 is an outstanding choice for him/her. If the OP wants to buy an HD2 and use nothing but android on it... I think that is kind of silly. Since they never made clear thier intent, this is really all pointless speculation.
ap3604 I can also report, the android ins't better than hd2 in native OS
Wilco said:
Perhaps because they are used to WinMo and would like to eperiment with Android?
Well: Use proven technology, while beeeing able to experiment with Android and eveluate its possibilities/capabilities.
HD2 is the top on speccs and has dual boot capability.
I do: it's a hacker thing, beeing able to put things to your hand, make it do what you want, not what it is intended for.
It is not the same, it is like buying a Diesel car, adding a petrol engine and using whatever you want (either depending on fuel price, or depending on driving style you want to experience that moment)
Running Android of SD Card is not transforming your device, it is extending it's capabilities.
One can experiment with Android while it is still possible to "revert" to WinMo.
eg: during the office hours WinMo, in the evening Android, as a hobby, from interest, playing games fill in....
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Faelok said:
Semantics
You are correct. The HD2 is absolutely not outclassed by any of those devices and I never said it was. I simply noted that they are very similar in terms of hardware. The EVO is perhaps the only one that has same or better stats in all areas. My wife has an EVO but I personally perfer my HD2 because of the dual-boot versatility you mentioned.
AFAIK none. But I don't think that is relevant to the advice I gave.
To reiterate: Buying the HD2 with the intention of running android as the primary OS is in my opinion a mistake. There are better options that do not require -
a) running off of the SD card
b) changing the radio (and possibly the ROM as well)
c) 99% functionality
d) waiting (and hoping) for a quick nand solution
However, already owning an HD2 and deciding that you are bored with WM is completely understandable. If the OP is good with tech/gagets, experienced with WinMo, enjoys the occasional hard-reset when tweaking has gone awry, and wants a phone that can dual-boot WM and droid, then the HD2 is an outstanding choice for him/her. If the OP wants to buy an HD2 and use nothing but android on it... I think that is kind of silly. Since they never made clear thier intent, this is really all pointless speculation.
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All you guy's statements are on point.
My experience is coming from the G1 phone - HD2. I loved Android when it was on my G1. I rooted, hacked, and flashed a billion times (exaggerated; but felt like it). But when I found out that the HD2 was coming to the US, I had to jump on it. The hardware and spec sheet was HUGE compared to the phones that were available in the US at the time. C'mon, 4.3" screen vs. a 3.2"? No contest. I'm a multimedia geek, and this was a huge plus!
I love my HD2. WM was a new experience for me thus I read pages after pages after pages just so I can better my phone than the next persons' HD2. You guys above me saying that the HD2 is versatile, YES.. Very much so. I did everything on my HD2 w/WM. But I really missed the Android Market and it's apps...
Now, when Android was being pushed into development into the HD2.. this changed the game. WM + Cookies / GTX / SPB MS / etc is great (still is).. but someone who has experience with Android, loves the OS, and wants to see it on a phone with this much on the spec sheet, wouldn't let it slip by. I didn't. I use Android on a daily basis. It is my primary OS, only because I feel as if I have come to an end with WM on my HD2.
When I found out dual booting WM + Android, this made my HD2 even better! What Android is missing on the HD2... WM has. Or vice versa, IMO. For instance... I use a 98% stable build.. At least. GPS / BT will not work. Not a big deal for me. When I travel, I switch to WM. Done.
Lastly, I do agree with one of the above post. If you don't have an HD2 and want the phone solely for the purpose of running Android as a primary... DONT. Unless you're willing to put some time in running WM and getting familiar with it.
I believe hacking the HD2 to dual boot WM+Android is like riding a motorcycle for the first time... Start off in a smaller displacement bike and work your way up. Don't shoot for the fastest bike or you're bound to drop it.
This is probably a dumb question in the wrong section but are there any reasons outside of something like a locked boot-loader that Android couldn't be compiled to run on the HP touchpad tablet?
I was just wondering the same thing. The CPU is a SnapDragon so the hardware at least has the potential to work...
I would imagine that it would be quite difficult because you would need to build your own kernel and custom version of android.
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I would imagine that it would be quite difficult because you would need to build your own kernel and custom version of android.
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Im not a Developer or anything but I would Assume that we Can wait for a Honeycomb Tablet to come out with Similar specs (I.E Same Processor and Ram) and port a Version of that to the TouchPad. It should work if Running HC 3.2 since it supports different Screen sizes too. I would assume only minor tweaking would be needed. But thats just me Guessing.
Sorry but I was thinking the opposite. I would kill to get WebOS running on my new Moto Photon!
ouchpad
+1 for android on HP ouchpad
http://cnnmoney.mobi/wk_snarticle?a...110818:hp_pc_spinoff:1&category=cnnm_business
especially now since ouchpad is dead
I think this is going to become a much more important question, now that HP is getting out of the consumer hardware business and WebOS is going to become unsupported very soon. I think a dual-core snapdragon would be more that enough to run 2.3, and the aspect ratio (4:3) makes it a lot more attractive to me than the existing 16:10 stable of Honeycomb tablets.
If the source code for Ice Cream Sandwich is released to the public, hopefully this can happen. For now though I hope someone will be interested enough to pick up a cut-rate Touchpad (prices are likely to plummet now that Retailers will be dying to offload them) and attempt to get CM7 on it.
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due to LTE:
Samsung Galaxy S II Hercules
Samsung SHV-E120S Galaxy S II LTE
use the modem-less AP8060 that the touchpad uses. they would be the target candidates to port to touchpad. could maybe do boot ->boot like IOS jailbreak where you strap webos to boot android.
Since AP8060 is SOC (all in one) - good chance of this working.
I would put up some cash to see this happen... really would... WebOS is nice.. the Hardware is nice.. but AS IT IS... is as it will be and it just doesnt have enough in it for me to enjoy it. Not enough quality apps.. and what happens when things need updates to make them work properly. call whom ever you want ... no one is there to pick up the phone they have all be WFR by hp lol
I really hope someone can get Android on those Touchpads. The big box retailers are dumping them right now. 16GB for $99.99 and 32GB for $149.99.
i know its not related but since its being sold for 99$im thinking of buying it the only question is that does it run divx movies without converting
id donate $20 towards this
The 16gb in Canada is going for $99....well worth it if a port was possible or in the near future!!!
http://www.engadget.com/2011/08/19/let-the-liquidation-begin-hps-16gb-touchpad-on-sale-for-99/
It was possible with the HD2, with a little effort, Android will become possible!
someone please port android to this device!
What is the over-under on this getting Android? Is it worth a poor man's money?
I'm veerrryyyy interested too! This would be awesome.
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What is the over-under on this getting Android? Is it worth a poor man's money?
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I say its worth the 100....
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I say its worth the 100....
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I would want something with Android... that is my main concern. So, you think that it will get a port?
Ok, just wanted to put this up here.
I come from the legendary HTC HD2 so I know nothing is impossible from win6.5 to android is huge
Do you guys think a port of win8 will be possible? i mean they said 1gb of RAM is enough to run win8... and 1.5GHz should not be a problem if Atom is 1.6GHz, since we can overclock it and stuff..
so, is it possible, or whats talking against it?
Technically, its "possible". But nobody is going to take the time to port Windows8 to the Flyer. Windows is closed source, making porting it over extremely difficult. Plus, there would be no drivers to make the hardware work with the OS. I'm no developer, but the enormous amount of work to overcome these obstacles make them infeasible, compared to simply buying a Windows 8 device (when they become available).
On the other hand, there are developers who will try just for the fun of it. Will it be usuable to the general public? I doubt it....
Somebody tell Microsoft!
Hey this thing is already running a version of Linux, you see any ports to a full blown linux tablet?
Nice idea thou, the new Windows 8 looks to be finger friendly
yeah i know it will be a pain in the arse, but hey - some people like to do this just for the fun and recognition - you know, be the one who finally managed to hack win8 and port it to a android device.
its been done before, and i think many will be donating to help.
its a fun thing.. imagine dual boot
You could install Ubuntu on the Flyer, but for what , I don't know.
Read lots of issues and complaints about W8. Its a ubuntu mini wannabe. Its a nightmare on a pc and probably going to be classified as a cousin to vista. Windows is a mess structuraly compared to Linux, which is Android.
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There are a few reasons why it will never work, most of them people already mentioned
1. You can't compare a 1.6Ghz Intel x86 processor to a 1.6Ghz ARM one, the Flyer is well below the minimum specs.
2. Microsoft will not publicly release their ARM builds, they will only sell them directly to OEMs unlike the desktop version of Windows 8.
3. It's closed source.
4. If someone does miraculously manage to get it running (hey this is xda), functionality will be extremely limited as there is no legacy app support for ARM.
You could install Ubuntu like DigitalMD said and put Win8 on a VM in there.... doubt it would boot though and you would have to find chuck norris and make him round-house kick the lag.
From ALL of the Tablets on the Market, I have checked out ALL of them. The one that I'm the happiest with is the Sprint HTC EVO View Tablet. It's the LOUDEST of ANY & ALL Tablets on the market. Anywhere from a little bit to a lot louder. I know that it's just a 7" screen, but it has the best sound. I would like to get Windows 8 on the HTC EVO View Tablet. i hope that ANYONE can come up with a solution to this. If anyone can come up with a solution to this, then I would put it on the HTC EVO View Tablet ASAP!
It's not possible. Doesn't meet min specs.
We installed it at work on an HP Slate that was running Win7, and it constantly freaked out about the resolution not being high enough. If a device that was meant to run Windows OS is unable to run Win8, it's not going to happen on an Android device. At least not officially.
And considering we can't get an ICS build running, it's a pretty good bet we'll never get Win8 to run.
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It's not possible. Doesn't meet min specs.
We installed it at work on an HP Slate that was running Win7, and it constantly freaked out about the resolution not being high enough. If a device that was meant to run Windows OS is unable to run Win8, it's not going to happen on an Android device. At least not officially.
And considering we can't get an ICS build running, it's a pretty good bet we'll never get Win8 to run.
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I have a slate 500. Did you set it to the higher resolution? Win 8 should work, although the screen is a bit off at the higher resolution.
A bit off topic, I know...
Well that was just one aspect of it.
We weren't able to set the resolution any higher then the max 1024x600. It just wouldn't allow anything higher. It *runs* but anytime you click/swipe etc it vomits error messages.
Still, so many challenges keeping it from happening on the view/flyer. It's a pipe dream.
Yeah this ain't gonna happen. Already got a very good , usable OS.
I"d spend my time improving that and creating better apps
Is it possible looking at hardware? Yes, I think so. The architecture should be fine, as there is an ARM version.
However, what do we need?
-Drivers for Windows 8, and if we want to make this work out correctly, we do need the ability to write drivers ourselves, which is a lot of work.
-A custom bootloader. I hope that, after we get ICS to boot on the Flyer correctly, we can work on a bootloader, as it would be really nice for a real tweakers-tablet, so there might be a possibility for this (not giving an ETA, as I don't know how much work it is and it will take a lot of time, don't get excited on this at all...)
And besides, when we can work on a native Linux-distribution, I don't think it's worth it to work on W8, especially because every way we get it running is not legal. Oh, and let's not forget the work it takes to get it to boot, as it would take quite some magic to get a Windows kernel booting.
redpoint73 said:
Technically, its "possible". But nobody is going to take the time to port Windows8 to the Flyer. Windows is closed source, making porting it over extremely difficult. Plus, there would be no drivers to make the hardware work with the OS. I'm no developer, but the enormous amount of work to overcome these obstacles make them infeasible, compared to simply buying a Windows 8 device (when they become available).
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and what do you think about windows phone 7 on the HD2? i believe it was extremely hard, but people made it
Big_O said:
Read lots of issues and complaints about W8. Its a ubuntu mini wannabe. Its a nightmare on a pc and probably going to be classified as a cousin to vista. Windows is a mess structuraly compared to Linux, which is Android.
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f**k you... don't write total bull****s here... it's not a noob forum. i didn't see any other complaints except people's noobiness.. they'll get used to the new controls. they're just awesome.
Naysayers always say nay. I'm amazed at the accomplishments @ XDA thus far and have learned never say never. I for one would love to see this happen.
Some people do things because their told it can't be done.
im using the rtm windows 8 right now i gotta say its pretty good ...early builds had issues but they did good quicker smother would be awesome if they could get windows 8 on my VIEW cuz its def built for mobile ...splashtop for now
Big_O said:
Read lots of issues and complaints about W8. Its a ubuntu mini wannabe. Its a nightmare on a pc and probably going to be classified as a cousin to vista. Windows is a mess structuraly compared to Linux, which is Android.
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Technically possilbe, but it's extreemely unlikely to happen. Especially since windows is in no way open source, and the flyer doesn't have that many modders.
I bought a Nextway Fast 9 X from spemall.com as shown here:
http://www.spemall.com/Nextway-F9X-...PS-Screen-2G-Ram-1-5GHz-4K-Video-Black_g.html
After fully charging the tablet I started using it and it froze. I then restarted it and its froze a total of 5 times. Its had errors with the launcher, when opening the apps tab all the images would look like the background but pixelated.
Here is a link to the pictures i took: http://s1232.beta.photobucket.com/user/xstingstreetx/library/Defective
Next, I was able to disable some things for the tablet to run properly without crashing. However, this thing score terrible on benchmarks and is VERY slow moving. The processor is actually 1.08Ghz not 1.5.
I was able to root it thanks to Bin4ry see here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1886460
Video by Bin4ry see here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=7EpkrCq1gfM
I was able to overclock on the stock kernel and such to 1.152 stable.
I was hoping someone could help to develop ROMs, Kernels, etc to make this thing work better.
Any and all ideas or feedback is appreciated.
Things that I didnt notice when I bought it is: I dont believe there is bluetooth or GPS
Also the GPS and blutooth either does not exist or possibly the software in the tablet just doesn't work with it.
xstingstreetx said:
Also the GPS and blutooth either does not exist or possibly the software in the tablet just doesn't work with it.
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so you bought a non-brand cheap chinese tablet and now you want someone to develop a ROM for it ?
edit: wait. that is not that cheap. why on earth would you buy a non-brand tablet with a budget at 200$?
krankdroid said:
so you bought a non-brand cheap chinese tablet and now you want someone to develop a ROM for it ?
edit: wait. that is not that cheap. why on earth would you buy a non-brand tablet with a budget at 200$?
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Well no other tablet has competitive specs that I found. However I didnt know this tablet wasn't a 1.5 Ghz quad core as listed on the sellers site.
xstingstreetx said:
Well no other tablet has competitive specs that I found. However I didnt know this tablet wasn't a 1.5 Ghz quad core as listed on the sellers site.
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if something sounds to good to be true. it probaly is..
sad to say the chances of someone making a ROM for non-brand products is pretty slim, since most ROM are created on the basis that a device is widely bought and used. Of non-brand phone and tablets there are such a variety that developing for them makes no sense.
Get your money back if you can, and get a branded device. For 200$ you can get a Nexus 7.
if you want the same size and format of the one you got, look around for what samsung, acer, asus, hell even what Point Of View have to offer..
Sorry, but you won't like it -
The main disadvantage of buying a no-brand device is although it may work better the known brands, in case of a fault (software or hardware), you're on your own.... Not many users have flashed/fixed/used this device. So if you brick it, get a bootloop or find a bug, not many can help you.
Not speaking about the variety of ROMs...
I've been there.... I've bought a no-brand phone and after a year it's main PCB failed. I couldn't find a replacement part and had to throw the device away.
Anyway.....
Use the device, enjoy and don't brick it
Sent from my digital submersible hovercraft.
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Well no other tablet has competitive specs that I found. However I didnt know this tablet wasn't a 1.5 Ghz quad core as listed on the sellers site.
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If the moderators will give me permission, I can give you a link to where there are 4 custom ROMs for this tablet. I have installed the BETA4 and it better utilizes the Retina Display (unless you have bad eyes, and there is one geared for that one as the defective one you are using does). I honestly don't know if your problem can be helped with software, but it might... I can also give you a link to the newest stock ROM and a Windows app to install it. I would rather get permission first to post 2 direct links... one is to Arctablet (and you can do a Google or DuckDuckGo search and find it by the way) and the other one is to a tablet distributor who was good enough to create download links and instructions on how to use the hokey Chinese installer. The question is though, is your problem hardware or a botched ROM?
It does not have Bluetooth or GPS. My Archos outdoes it in that way, but it is a true quad-core retina display and mine works very nicely... nicer now that I have the better use of the resolution available. Its wildly vivid. I honestly can find no real issues other than a few I had from not wiping the thing before I flashed it (oddly it suggested I not do so... which caused me grief w/Google Play eventually). It comes rooted, and if you have one of those that are like partly-rooted or whatever some call it, do a factory reset and it will come back fully rooted. The ROMs of course are all rooted. I have a cheap 10.2", which honestly if I had not had something else would have given me ulcers, but hey... I only paid $14 for it from Quibids (including bid prices), so I can't complain. This one cost me around $150 with a few extras, so a little grief I can handle. But so far... those are interesting words... so far, it is actually very impressive. My daughter has a boyfriend who is an Apple fanatic, and he's kind of fixated on it from certain similarities to what he is coveting these days.
I have it going at 1.2ghz (quad-core), although I have gotten it up to just under the 1.5ghz it claims (1440). It will do it, but I wouldn't bet on its stability. It comes at 1.0 preset from manufacturer, but is easily changed with the cpu app of your choice. I use Setcpu... works for me. It has 2gb ram... can't complain.
I read some arguments on the cameras, but I don't see it... I took some pics tonight of my daughter on her way to a costume party... they are the best thing I have this side of my Kodak. I'm sure it takes better video than the Kodak though. Anyway... its responsive, sharp, and does what I want. You have to buy a Bluetooth dongle for next to nothing to have Bluetooth though for some bizarre reason it shows its there. The one page that I mentioned gives advice along with pics on how to do some interesting mods to it. It is capable of more than they shipped it with. I am sorry that you are having troubles with yours... I don't know if you still have yours or not. I've only had this a few weeks. If you are interested, let me know... and if the moderators allow it, I will post links.
I hate that you have had such grief with yours. If I can help, I am willing.