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Lately there has been an influx of people breaking their phones with voodoo.
Common reasons:
1. Downloading voodoo for the wrong phone.
2. Installing voodoo5 on top of voodoo4.
3. Running odin restore files on the above scenarios.
4. Wrong phones flashing OUR voodoo.
Do yourself a favor. Understand voodoo, and understand it well before even considering flashing it. Become proficient with adb, read all the documentation.
Ask questions. Become the voodoo/adb/rom/root/flashing/android expert BEFORE flashing. Then ask for advice once more.
Do not flash voodoo because you think its some godsend. It is not. It is a very specific and advanced tool to fix performance hangups on SGS phones under one very specific circumstance: Write operations. Due to the buggy RFS filesystem, write speeds are very poor. The phone ends up waiting for write operations to complete, causing lag, slight hangs, and slowdowns. Voodoo addresses some (but not all) of this. Some of the issue also stems from the fact that Movinand (our flash storage) makes the write operations slow.
So, does this mean voodoo will zooom zoom?
Depends on the type of user you are.
1. If you don't notice the lag, do not install voodoo.
2. If you do not perform heavy write operations (rss readers, browsing, news readers, heavy duty email, etc), voodoo is NOT FOR YOU.
3. If you don't know if you need it, YOU DO NOT.
I type this as a request, and plea for folks to pay attention and be careful with what they are doing. These phones are brickable, under the right circumstances, unless you have very specialized tools. I do not have all of these tools, and neither do you. Stop tempting fate!
Finally, a word of advice.
If you want to remove voodoo4:
DO NOT ODIN OVER IT UNLESS YOU HAVE NO OTHER OPTION.
Check my uninstall thread, or better yet, disable it like you are supposed to and then remove it. Read the voodoo threads for more information.
If you want to upgrade to voodoo5:
DO NOT do it on top of voodoo4. Just_do_not_do_it. Do not install it on DI01 unless specifically for it. If you don't know, ASK.
If you want to remove voodoo5:
Assuming you didn't flash a kernel from a DIFFERENT phone, read the uninstall thread, and only do Odin if its your last choice. Odin is much more able to remove voodoo5, but there is still risk.
TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR YOUR ACTIONS
Understand that flashing something advanced like this could hurt your phone and someone may not be able to fix it. Get insurance. Take out a life insurance policy. Do SOMETHING.
I have had a huge influx of dead phones being brought to me. I am starting to reach the limit of what I can fix. Be careful folks, this is not a game to play with a 500 dollar device unless you are prepared to buy a new one if you break it.
Just don't install voodoo period
Geeknik's kernels in ROM manager are safer, easier and better.
I don't have the knowledge to have said it better, but I at least understand what my limits are. I tried to say something to this end a couple of days ago on irc, actually and I think I was misunderstood.
The way people incessantly ask the same damn question on irc is rediculous. "why won't my phone work?" "How can I fix it?" For Gods' sake, if you don't know read!
Irc is a tool, for sure, but it's just 1 of many. I'd like to think that it would stay a place where you can get access to the cutting edge, without having to scroll through 1000 lines of the same questions over and over again.
Thanks Adryn.
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Geeknik's kernels in ROM manager are safer, easier and better.
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...and 100% irrelevant to this thread.
Stay on topic please.
Nice way to put it, hopefully more people will actually READ this instead of trolling!
Good point made by the OP! I put voodoo lagfix on my phone after rooting it, my phone was the first one I ever attempted to do anything like this and I was a noob...still am. I nearly bricked my phone mainly because I still didn't know what I was doing after reading many documentations and asking people. I braved it and it nearly cost me a phone. I've stayed away from voodoo since then and I really don't think I would need this since I don't do any of the stuff that was mentioned that warrants this fix.
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...and 100% irrelevant to this thread.
Stay on topic please.
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I wouldn't say it's completely irrelevent. He's trying to steer inexperienced users towards a safer alternative to voodoo that also helps relieve the speed issues with the phones.
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Then he can make another thread about it.
This is regarding voodoo mishaps.
PERIOD.
Its side conversations from folks hijacking the thread that ruin the message.
Question...if i currently have voodoo should i even uninstall it? I put it on my phone a couple months ago and everything went fine but im not sure if i even need it. I have the" reboot button" app from a dev on these forums.that allows u to.disable/enable voodoo and i honestly can't tell a difference when i disable it.
I.just feel like i should get rid of it now to prevent ant future problems that can occur. Thoughts?
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jbrdr985 said:
Question...if i currently have voodoo should i even uninstall it? I put it on my phone a couple months ago and everything went fine but im not sure if i even need it. I have the" reboot button" app from a dev on these forums.that allows u to.disable/enable voodoo and i honestly can't tell a difference when i disable it.
I.just feel like i should get rid of it now to prevent ant future problems that can occur. Thoughts?
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I say get rid of it if you don't need it. It's not worth it anyway. Plus, when CM comes to our phone, we'll need RFS (or stock file system in layman's terms) based on the i9000 requirements.
there should be a competency test for voodoo
jbrdr985 said:
Question...if i currently have voodoo should i even uninstall it? I put it on my phone a couple months ago and everything went fine but im not sure if i even need it. I have the" reboot button" app from a dev on these forums.that allows u to.disable/enable voodoo and i honestly can't tell a difference when i disable it.
I.just feel like i should get rid of it now to prevent ant future problems that can occur. Thoughts?
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FWIW, I had exactly the same situation and I removed it. Not problem 1, but I just felt like if something did go wrong, I may not be able to fix it so I removed it. It seems to me it's all about RTFM. If you take your time, read the directions, read them again, make sure you're prepared with the right files, read the directions again, and then slowly flash away, you probably will be fine.
Then again, I may just have the most resilient phone Samsung ever made...
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FWIW, I had exactly the same situation and I removed it. Not problem 1, but I just felt like if something did go wrong, I may not be able to fix it so I removed it. It seems to me it's all about RTFM. If you take your time, read the directions, read them again, make sure you're prepared with the right files, read the directions again, and then slowly flash away, you probably will be fine.
Then again, I may just have the most resilient phone Samsung ever made...
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I just read how to uninstall it completely (not disable) and I feel like I won't be able to do that lol. I'm scared.
nitsuj17 said:
there should be a competency test for voodoo
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^voodoo^flashing
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Why do idiots still use voodoo lagfix crap when they've been proven nothing but trouble?
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They are useful. However trouble is relevant to the user.
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Why do idiots still use voodoo lagfix crap when they've been proven nothing but trouble?
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the voodoo lagfix isnt crap....and if you actually knew what it was/did you wouldnt say that...im guessing you are someone who couldnt handle it....and you wouldnt be alone
if you dont feel confident restoring your phone from whatever may arise...dont use voodoo...also if you dont know what it is, dont flash it
even though adryn goes out his way to make everything idiot proof, even bigger idiots step up and prove that to be untrue
Thanks adrynalyne for the post! Good to know you're looking out for people to not brick their phones.
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They are useful. However trouble is relevant to the user.
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Extremely useful. Newsrob drives me nuts without it. Although Voodoo still doesn't seem as snappy as the original ext2 fix.
Jodiuh said:
Extremely useful. Newsrob drives me nuts without it. Although Voodoo still doesn't seem as snappy as the original ext2 fix.
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Original ext2 fix was mostly placebo on this phone... ,voodoo is real
Well my work just got a bunch of iPhones and the CEO got one of the. He had the Samsung before so I got it as an upgrade over my crackberry.
Now I really want to install a custom rom/kernel on the phone but I am hesitating because its really not my phone and my work owns it.
What do you guys think should I stick with stock or should I root the phone and install a rom?
Stock. There's nothing like explaining to the boss how you f'd up company equipment.
I dont know if one should/should not install custom roms on a work phone, as I don't have one. But I can tell you that if you do decide to root and install one of the custom roms, it's not that hard to unroot and go back to stock later on when you need to return the phone. There are several threads here that will guide you through the process too.
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Stock. There's nothing like explaining to the boss how you f'd up company equipment.
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I guess your right I just hate being stuck on 2.1 when I know I can have a nice Froyo install. It's just so hard not to do because I have done it with all my other devices.
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I guess your right I just hate being stuck on 2.1 when I know I can have a nice Froyo install. It's just so hard not to do because I have done it with all my other devices.
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I hear you...but who's to say he won't ask for it out the blue someday?
Idk, at this point, the fascinate is practically impossible to brick. You also say you have experience rooting and customizing other phones, correct? I say go for it. The only reason I could see not to is due to security issues. Work passwords and etc.. I really don't know too much about all of that tho.
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I have a rooted android work phone. All you have to do is read what ppl are saying about the roms and FOLLOW DIRECTIONS and youll be fine.
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Well my work just got a bunch of iPhones and the CEO got one of the. He had the Samsung before so I got it as an upgrade over my crackberry.
Now I really want to install a custom rom/kernel on the phone but I am hesitating because its really not my phone and my work owns it.
What do you guys think should I stick with stock or should I root the phone and install a rom?
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Used my fascinating voodoo powers
I seriously discourage doing anything to it. It's not yours for one, and (no disrespect to the devs ofcourse, their work is amazing) there really isnt anything spectacular for this phone at the moment due to samsung's failure to provide any source code. To be more specific... our kernels suck.
And oh yea this shouldve been in the Q&A section so be ready for ashasaur to move this thread. (hes really good at doing that )
Depends on your comfort level, and of course, your corporate policies.
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I would say root your phone at the most. It's fairly easy to recover from just rooting, but flashing roms/kernels/modems is much more risky. At least with rooting, you could fairly easily freeze the bloat with TiBu and have a more functional phone. Thawing everything and un-rooting would have you a stock phone back fairly quickly, and you could also still receive OTA updates as well.
I say go for it if anything goes wrong all you have to do is odin back to stock it removes everything its as simple as plugging the phone in load the stock file and click start I've done this countless times
We pick our work cell phones specifically because of the potential customization we can do. I hate being stuck with some company's version of what they think will be useful to me in my job. I can Odin this phone back to stock/factory defaults in less than 5 minutes if need be, so customizing this phone and expanding its abilities, and recovering from those customizations quickly, were what attracted me to it.
Android is Android, whether it's Samsung's stock version or one of the dev's version of it. Your phone is still going to perform the same tasks you need it to for your job. As long as you are both competent with the technologies involved and confident in your ability to restore to stock, I don't see why you should hesitate from exploring the options that are out there, especially when Froyo source drops and we see an explosion of dev-created customizations/enhancements.
Really? If your asking for advice on whether to mess with a business owned phone, it makes me wonder are you the ceo's mail clerk?
SuperClean2.9.1vNitroDark
Personally for a work phone, I'd update it for better usage in my work.
Increasing battery life usage duration.
Less irritating buggy glitches.
Removing the idiotic TW/BING/VZW craps. (too many add-on hacks from google default causing reliability and dependability problems)
Adding Backup and Restore nandroid for possible failures and migrations.
I suggest DJ05 + SuperClean + Blaze v2.3.1R2.
I did this with my eris over and over with no issues. Now, for some reason, im a lil worried w my TB. Can anyone provide me the links to software & such that i would need to get started, some 'how-to's, and what not!? I alwaus try to have the hottest phone sh*t out of anyone i know, so please hook me up w the newest stuff! I know thos could be a lot to ask, so to whoever helps, thanks a million!
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Everything you need is stickied in the dev section. Read the root how to at least three times through before doing anything. Make sure you can "see" your phone via adb. If you're still unsure, watch some youtube videos. Rooting the Tbolt is not hard, just be thoroughly prepared beforehand. If you run into problems, ask for help in IRC chat (you'll get the fastest response there) or here. Good luck
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If I did it you can.Took me a couple of times trying but eventually got it. Now used about 3 different Roms.
I went from the Eris to TB and I was a little apprehensive at first. Watch the "How to root thunderbolt" video on YouTube. I strongly suggest doing it through adb as the experience is vital. Good luck! I'm running Gingeritis 1.0, just as a suggestion.
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I'm a newbie too, just as long as you backup everything ti should be ok.
Thank god for forums, that's the bottom line, there's always someone here to help you.
I'm gonna say read EVERYTHING 3 times. There's a lot of ROMs, a lot of radios, and plenty of ways of ending up with a phone that that doesn't work (not bricked, just a dud setup.) There are ways to brick it you wouldn't guess, but I think those days are behind us. Any of the gingerbread builds will have quirks. The froyo builds are generally solid, especially the MR2 builds. Just gotta play around.
The easiest method being trying to root with an uncharged battery .
i agree with what everyone has said (actually i don't know anything about the battery mention). only thing i would add is when you do decide to root, do it when you won't be rushed. I rooted via 1-click a DINC, but the tbolt was much different and all together a much better experience getting to know adb. If you know a little bit of command line, you will understand what you are doing (mostly). but even if you don't know hardly anything about command line, all the instructions i found give you the commands.
The Eris was a one-click root correct? The Thunderbolt rooting process will definitely take longer than the Eris rooting process, but I wouldn't say any specific step is difficult. After you're rooted the process of flashing a specific ROM or radio should be the same. Just remember to rename radios PG05IMG.zip and flash in Hboot, and usually do a data wipe before you flash a new ROM.
The entire rooting process will probably take around an hour, or even more if you're not familiar with adb. Just follow the directions closely, and be patient.
Learn basic commands for adb shell and download/install/update it on your computer.
The biggest pain in the ass I've found on ROMs for the TB is the radio.
If you want a froyo based/CM/AOSP ROM it takes one type of radio a Gingerbread based ROM is a different type of radio.
Simple commands in adb can reboot from recovery (clockwork recovery mod) to bootloader to change radios. IF you remember to place it on the root of your sd card.
Nandroid backup, Nandroid backup, Nandroid backup.
The devs are really starting to put out some A1 ROMs out there.
Just like Ford v. Chevy v. Dodge, everyone has their favorites. Backup and flash away....
Been there. I used Auto root(MR1) which was very easy. Just take your time and it walks you right through the process. Took about 30 minutes, tops. And unroot is even easier and only takes 5 minutes.
I was kinda scared at first also but I have rooted and flashed ROMs on 2 thunderbolts now , it is a fairly easy process , just have to follow the instructions and you will be fine , biggest scare I had was flashing radios , after that its a piece of cake , Good Luck !!!!
Awesome Phone after it is rooted and the bloatware is gone , better battery life....
I rooted through ADB, after that, I've never used it again. I flash roms almost daily. Nothing to be scared of. If you do a nandroid before you flash, even if something bad happens, you can always go right back to a known working condition by doing a nandroid restore. I know it's scary at first, but once you do it, you'll be flashing roms and radios all the time! It's gets addicting, and it's actually fun
Like anything for the first time, you might be apprehensive beforehand but once it's under your belt you'll think back and wonder why you didn't do it sooner. Follow the procedure, get it in your head and pull the trigger.
Its not for everyone but it's not that difficult either.
I was a Newbie with ADB too, I held off hoping for a 1 click method, and then got impatient. I read the guides several times (as mentioned in earlier replies) before I started, and I double and triple checked every command line as I did them... It was a bit nerve wracking, but I managed to get through it without a scratch. And about 2 weeks ago I was able to walk my buddy through it over the phone from 1500 miles away. As long as you're slow, methodical and careful, there's not much to be worried about.
I'm computer saavy but not Android. If I follow the steps to root....will the phone be totally cool after the process? I'd like to uninstall some Verizon bloat. Are there some must do's after rooting? Is there a noticeable performance gain after eliminating the bloat?
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I'm computer saavy but not Android. If I follow the steps to root....will the phone be totally cool after the process? I'd like to uninstall some Verizon bloat. Are there some must do's after rooting? Is there a noticeable performance gain after eliminating the bloat?
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Rooting is a must; and removing the bloat is great, but installing a custom ROM is better performance wise.
Try a couple ROMs and find what one you like best. I use Liberty because I find it to be the fastest.
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I'm computer saavy but not Android. If I follow the steps to root....will the phone be totally cool after the process? I'd like to uninstall some Verizon bloat. Are there some must do's after rooting? Is there a noticeable performance gain after eliminating the bloat?
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Sorry bout the thanks..hit the button by accident. As for rooting, if you follow the directions correctly, you SHOULD be ok" but there's always a chance you can have a problem. That's why the directions state at your own risk. And yes you will notice your phone will run considerably faster once you debloat the Verizon crapware. Also installing roms such as nitros eclipse or Kejars31's liberty will also improve the phones performance. Im using liberty & its pretty quick, but both are great. Hope that helps you out
I haven't used Liberty, so I can't vouch for it. But Eclipse is a great rom to try. The devs remove most bloatware, as well as the Blur skin, unless something is necessary in almost all roms. Both of these things, as well as some performance scripts and other built in modifications make a significant difference. Just be sure you have the correct version of android running before flashing, and just to be on the safe side, be sure to download RSD Lite and the correct SBF for 2.3.3 or 2.3.4 whichever you choose.
If you want a ROM, I'd suggest Molten, fastest I've seen!
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I'm currently using Eclipse and the V6 script and let me tell you, it is now the phone it should have been stock. Rooting and flashing ROMs are a must for this device, and as long as you follow directions and are crystal clear on what they tell you to do, there is little to no risk involved. I was in your position when I got my X1, and after I installed the Apex ROM, there was no chance I'd ever use stock again. Good luck my friend!
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Make sure you follow all of the directions and read up anytime you have a question. I have learned much and more from all the people around here and their informative posts. It is intimidating at first to root, install recovery then install a ROM but once you've done it it is really awesome.
I want to try Liberty on my rooted X2 but cannot find it anywhere. I've searched, but may have missed it. Can someone point me in the right direction? Thank you in advance for your help.
Romans8vs1 said:
I want to try Liberty on my rooted X2 but cannot find it anywhere. I've searched, but may have missed it. Can someone point me in the right direction? Thank you in advance for your help.
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Liberty:
http://rootzwiki.com/topic/7699-rom-libertyx2-3-rc1-time-for-the-eagle-to-once-again-take-flight/
dabombk1 said:
I'm computer saavy but not Android. If I follow the steps to root....will the phone be totally cool after the process? I'd like to uninstall some Verizon bloat. Are there some must do's after rooting? Is there a noticeable performance gain after eliminating the bloat?
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I am currently stock rooted. And yes removing g bloat will free up some ram and u should notice some difference in performance.
But I recommend freezing before removing since there is a lot of apps that are interdependent on each other so u need to be careful what u remove.
most of the roms on here will remove the junk for u anyways.
Just make a nandroid of stock after u root and install our bootstrap so u can always go back to stock if u would like or need to.
If u r just looking to remove apps like kindle amazon blockbuster etc.. u will be fine. Feel free to ask any questions (u can also private message me if ud like) and ill do my best to help ya out that's what this forum is for
Thank you!
And don't worry about the 2.3.4 but anymore, Nitro has fixed it and it should be gone with his next release!
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Besides for the debloating/freezing and flashing roms that other posters have mentioned, one of the best things I like about rooting is being able to use an app titled Keyboard Manager. It is only available to root users, but it allows you to set keyboards based on orientation. For example, I use swype in portrait and blur keyboard in landscape.
Its the little things...
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Its the little things...
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Couldn't have said it better myself. Its not like you unlock a world of free apps and instantly become a Android Guru, you just get those few things that you wanted before and always said "I really wish I could change that" well its making open source even more open.
Keep reading the xda forums and you will learn alot. I started by using the "one click root," freezing bloat wear, and then started experimenting with Roms to squeeze all the free memory and performance I can out of my x2. Like you I am a computer tech head, but didn't know much about android. The knowledge comes fast though.
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Besides for the debloating/freezing and flashing roms that other posters have mentioned, one of the best things I like about rooting is being able to use an app titled Keyboard Manager. It is only available to root users, but it allows you to set keyboards based on orientation. For example, I use swype in portrait and blur keyboard in landscape.
Its the little things...
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that's a tasty little tidbit there, I like swipe but never turned it on because I really only liked it in portrait, hence, I really now do all my typing in landscape.
definitely root your phone. and definitely do what some of the others stated like getting a sbf and using rsd lite. im running eclipse if it means anything. havent tried liberty yet. didnt like alien or atrix port so much.
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I'm computer saavy but not Android. If I follow the steps to root....will the phone be totally cool after the process? I'd like to uninstall some Verizon bloat. Are there some must do's after rooting? Is there a noticeable performance gain after eliminating the bloat?
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YES! Rooting is the way to go. I just installed CM7 and absolutely love it. Phone works great - no Verizon bloat and battery life seems good. Phone is extremely fast and stable. Go to the "CM7" posts to learn how to update your phone to CM7. Here is the link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1442803
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YES! Rooting is the way to go. I just installed CM7 and absolutely love it. Phone works great - no Verizon bloat and battery life seems good. Phone is extremely fast and stable. Go to the "CM7" posts to learn how to update your phone to CM7. Here is the link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1442803
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I second that statement. I've tried Liberty and Eclipse, and no disrespect to those developers at all, but AOSP is the way to go and CM7 is the first AOSP ROM available for the DX2. I was afraid I made the wrong choice for a phone because I root and flash ROMs on my phones, but CM7 on the DX2 has made me feel much better. Try it! You'll love it!
Where did the .sbf go?
I've found several dead links for the "VRZ_MB870_4.5.1A-DTN-117-15_1FF_01.sbf.gz
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Someone at androidforums said they found a working one at droidx forums, but I haven't found it my self. I asked if he would post a link. Guess we'll see.
Edit: I found what I was looking for. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1317707
This will likely be a long post, so I'll start off with short summary:
After years of being excited about the android OS, I've now grown very tired of it and can't find a good solution to solve the issues.
Thanks in advance for taking the time to read and provide feedback and insight.
Background
I've been a web developer for ~15 years, even worked on a very popular android tablet before it was released. I currently have the title of "SDE" but I also deal with a lot of UI/UX work. I'm pretty tech savvy, love control, love to hack (eg my main machines are hackintoshes). I bought an EVO 3D shortly after it came out as it was dual core and had the most RAM. A friend is an android enthusiast and it sure seemed like android, while lacking polish, offered the flexibility and community for me to be able to have the level of polish I want.
Problems
Over the past year+ I haven't had much spare time. While other phones on other carriers are easy to root and mod, the EVO 3D on Sprint has been a PITA. My recent attempt at a custom PRL was a great example of how this "open" phone was more difficult to work with than a "locked" iPhone. There's been no easy way to root this phone and turn s-off. Yeah, I know there's two methods but both of them require more time than I have right now at any given time. And the bigger issue for me is that they're much bigger kludges than I think an "open" OS should be.
I waited for the ICS OTA update and am disappointed. While it solved some issues, it created more. And I feel like I've got both arms tied behind my back since almost any fix requires root. I hate reading that some of the fixes are in jelly bean, yet there's no easy way for me to upgrade.
Specific issues
- Llama doesn't work in ICS. I <3 Llama
- Battery usage is often horrible - yesterday I checked my email a couple times and the battery lasted all of 6 hours. I tried killing all tasks, but those who say that's useless since froyo are right. This issue keeps happening... it's like the CPU gets stuck at 100% for some reason.
- Network sucks. I don't understand why I can get 10Mb down and 2Mb up with speedtest.net, but the responsiveness of any app that uses the internet is sluggish. Even with my own tests on my own web servers, it' still sluggish. And latency is fairly low... seems like there might be a lot of packet loss for some reason.
- Camera sucks. The camera on my wife's EVO 4G works better but still sucks. All I've found here are threads confirming how much it sucks.
- App specific issues:
-- I have my sync settings set not to link contacts with LinkedIn, but it still frequently asks me anyway.
-- Contacts are duplicating: I had them all on my phone, and all synced via my gmail account. Then the other day it decides they're all different and duplicates my contacts.
- It unlocks itself. Sometimes I pull my phone out of my pocket and the phone is unlocked, even though I had a PIN set. I can use it for a minute or two, then suddenly I get greeted with a lock screen (or sometimes just half a lock screen.)
- I don't like having to set a lock screen in order to change the wifi password. Seems really odd to me. It wasn't like that in gingerbread.
I also have a hard time finding information. Seems like half of what I find doesn't apply to the EVO 3D, though may work for many other phones (even other HTC phones) and the bulk of the rest no longer works because of some other issue (or is just outdated.)
Anyway, I could go on, but I think you get the idea. If I had time, I'd see what I could to do contribute to a ROM project, but that just doesn't seem like it's in the cards right now. Am I just not a good fit for android? Is the bigger issue this phone? Would I actually be able to solve the above issues if I did go ahead and root it fully... perhaps with the wire method?
Thanks
Well I understand where you're coming from. Honestly, its personal preference. From my experience, once I went s-off and fully rooted it, it was so much better. A lot of the custom roms here are fantastic and blow stock out of the water. You can do so much more with root, and easily fix all of the problems that you have. Every. Single. One. It's all about just trying it, and if you don't like it, you can easily just try something new, that's the glory of it
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Thanks for the reassurance. I went ahead and tried the wire trick here http://htcevohacks.com/htc-evo-3d-h...c-evo-3d-using-wire-trick-juopunutbear-s-off/
Unfortunately, when I run ControlBear it tells me "device has no root!!"
I used the HTC method to unlock it. I'll keep digging... but this is part of what frustrates me about android.
blame the phone manufacturers and the carriers, not android... none of your problems actually seem like android ones
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Thanks for the reassurance. I went ahead and tried the wire trick here http://htcevohacks.com/htc-evo-3d-h...c-evo-3d-using-wire-trick-juopunutbear-s-off/
Unfortunately, when I run ControlBear it tells me "device has no root!!"
I used the HTC method to unlock it. I'll keep digging... but this is part of what frustrates me about android.
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Take a look at mpgrimm2's guide thread. That has a lot of good information.
ramjet73
snokarver said:
Thanks for the reassurance. I went ahead and tried the wire trick here http://htcevohacks.com/htc-evo-3d-h...c-evo-3d-using-wire-trick-juopunutbear-s-off/
Unfortunately, when I run ControlBear it tells me "device has no root!!"
I used the HTC method to unlock it. I'll keep digging... but this is part of what frustrates me about android.
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After you htcdev unlock, you need to flash a stock rom with root, I would try my rom, common sense v1.5 (stock) its in the link in my siggy, I did it on that and it worked just fine. Or you can flash a stock rooted rom that Virus posted up, its somewhere in the dev forum, once that's flashed you're good to go
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Thanks. What's the easiest way to do a full backup of my existing ROM so I can easily restore if I want to? Seems like every method I've found requires root.
Under all the glitz, Android runs on a Linux kernel.
Linux is very secure in that only the "root" account can make changes to vital system processes.
So yes, gaining root access is vital to making changes to your android device.
IMO, it is too easy to gain root in Android. It should be harder so all these noobs won't be on here f'ing up their phones.
sudo passwd root
I use *nix all day long. Was just running commands to modify permissions, using sudo, for git. Even in OS X gaining root access is fairly easy. But what you're telling me is, the only way to backup my ROM is to wipe it first with a ROM that is rooted? (In other words, no way to backup my ROM.)
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Thanks. What's the easiest way to do a full backup of my existing ROM so I can easily restore if I want to? Seems like every method I've found requires root.
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If you find the Su binaries, you can flash it via recovery via fastboot, right over the stock rom that you're running RIGHT NOW. I would google it, I don't have one off hand that I can attach for you.
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I found the su binaries, but haven't had any luck getting them installed. Every walkthrough I've found doesn't work. Tried to put a recovery on it, but that also won't go. One method requires root. The instructions for another said three button method but that doesn't seem to work on this phone...
You have to unlock the bootloader before trying to install recovery.
There are a bunch of guides. www.google.com
sudo passwd root
*sigh*
I have done the official HTC unlock. I know there's a ton of guides out there, and I'm usually pretty good at using google, but I have yet to find one that works. 90% of them are incomplete, outdated, assume you're already fully rooted or have a custom ROM. The majority of the time I find people posting the same problems I'm running into, without any answers. I've tried no less than four different methods (found via google) today to install recovery, but none of them have worked.
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*sigh*
I have done the official HTC unlock. I know there's a ton of guides out there, and I'm usually pretty good at using google, but I have yet to find one that works. 90% of them are incomplete, outdated, assume you're already fully rooted or have a custom ROM. The majority of the time I find people posting the same problems I'm running into, without any answers. I've tried no less than four different methods (found via google) today to install recovery, but none of them have worked.
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Have you tried mpgrimm2's guide for flashing recovery and superuser? It's part of a larger thread that covers rooting, S-OFF, bootloaders and other stuff for the Evo 3D and I know he works hard at keeping it up-to-date.
I suggested that earlier in this thread, and if you can't find the answers you are looking for there I'd be surprised.
ramjet73
Thanks for the insistance on that thread. I tried CWM using that guide and it didn't work (wouldn't ever boot into CWM even though everything appeared to install ok). I tried 4ext using a 4ext guide and it didn't work. I tried 4ext using the same guide as you linked to which references CWM, and it did work.
BusyBox is saying it may not be rooted, but RootChecker says it is. At least now I think I'm far enough along to make a backup of the stock ROM. Thanks much
Launching BusyBox some more it seems to work fine. So far I've:
- Make a backup of the stock ROM
- Deleted the crapware
- Backed up my apps with TB
- Used SetCPU to lower the clockspeed when idle. Now I'm under 100ma when idle. Pre ICS I had a hard time getting under 300ma.
Thanks a bunch. Things are really looking up.