I am confused. I have been happily using Vegan 5.1.1, but want to go to Gingerbread. I looked at "VEGAn-TAB GingerEdition STABLE RC1", but the post says:
"what's missing? Nothing except High Definition Video Hardware Decoding... not sure if we will ever get that one working right on Gingerbread."
Reading further in that thread, the gist is that ROM developers can not implement "High Definition Video Hardware Decoding" in GB on the G-Tab because NVIDIA has not released the "Harmony GB drivers."
So, I tried to start a sticky thread (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1075728) that would alert all to the anticipated eventual release of these drivers, but my request was denied, because "gb-compatible drivers are already included in cm7 and aosp-based ROMs."
Does this mean that CM7 and AOSP-based ROMS have "High Definition Video Hardware Decoding", which means I can use those ROMS to move to GB without losing video performance?
Or, do we have here a failure to communicate?
havign not used CM7, I can only comment on what I've pieced together from various posts. Apparantly, CM7 does have some level of hardware acceleration/decoding, but it's not from official updates or drivers from Nvidea. From what I've gathered, it appears that they were custom built using what's available from other ports, or reverse engineering.
Of course, I also believe that the reason your request was dienied isn't valid. you want to keep ev eryone updated on the status of OFFICIAL driver releases from Nvidea. We shouldn't stop expecting them to release support drivers for their hardware, just becuase somebody was able to find a workaround to get it "mostly" working.
It seems to me that admins here are very partial to CM7 and it's developers. Certainly no offense to the devs, but admins should be supportive of all efforts to make the G-Tablet the best it can be, and that includes efforts to get official updates from the software and hardware manufacturers.
My example of this would be that CM7 is a good clone of Gingerbread, it's not officially Gingerbread, though. However, there is great work being done on a clone of Honeycomb, but it get's no love BECAUSE it's not officially Honeycomb. Seems kinda confusing to me.
I believe that your request was denied probably because the official libraries for gingerbread were released in march and this information is available on the forums. To anwser your question yes cm7 and some other roms have used these libraries to enable hardware decoding. However they are still work in progress and overall they wok well. Vegan ginger didn't have the time to include the libraries in his release but i would expect he will soon. G-Hrmony Gb just released his version with hardware accelleration so you might want to try that or cm7. I am not sure if Vanilla Gb has it or not,but i believe it does.
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I believe that your request was denied probably because the official libraries for gingerbread were released in march and this information is available on the forums. To anwser your question yes cm7 and some other roms have used these libraries to enable hardware decoding. However they are still work in progress and overall they wok well. Vegan ginger didn't have the time to include the libraries in his release but i would expect he will soon. G-Hrmony Gb just released his version with hardware accelleration so you might want to try that or cm7. I am not sure if Vanilla Gb has it or not,but i believe it does.
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Thank you for your replies, I will look at G-Hrmony GB and CM7, and may give them a try.
However, even though there is information spread throughout the forums about hardware drivers and accelleration, it does take a lot of time and effort to locate it all, read through it all, and sort it out. NVIDIA's release of official GB hardware drivers is an important functionality and upgrade issue, and it would be nice if we could easily stay updated on that subject by looking in one place.
Ah well, perhaps NBD, but I'm just sayin...
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Is there anything new going on in the development side? I havent seen much in the Dev section. Does anyone want to share what new projects they are working on?
most evs have developed what they can from what's available. Until Viewsonic, Nvidea, USMerchants, Google, or any other entity release something that can drastically change the way we Gtab, then there won't be anything else to develop. They may tweak a few things here and there, fix bugs, etc. etc. but as far as something "new" it will have to depend on VS et al.
When VS released their 1.2 bootloader, as it's become known, Roebeet made some new(er) romss based on previous builds (TNT Lite, Vegan-Tab, CM7). They aren't really "new" just updated versions of existing roms, to accomodate the new bootloader. (they are posted at another forum site)
There have been a few Kernel updates as well, but none based on the 1.2 bootloader (that I know of)
So, basically, the development section will be a bit on the quiet side until the developers are given something substantial to work with. All the roms we are using are based on something that was provided by VS et al., so until they release something, then there will be nothing to work with, besides what already exists (ie, tweaks bug fixes, etc)
Slower changes is fine with me. For once, I'd like to use my gtab for more than a couple weeks without flashing a new rom or kernel.
I've been turning to the CM7 for dev, as there is a lot of work going on for the Gtab there. It's officially supported, runs pershoot's kernel, and gets regular updates.
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I've been turning to the CM7 for dev, as there is a lot of work going on for the Gtab there. It's officially supported, runs pershoot's kernel, and gets regular updates.
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WOW!!!!! Where is the press release? I can't believe Viewsonic is supporting cyanogenmod. This could mean Honeycomb is in the near future!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
(yes, sarcasm intended)
Well that sucks. I thought someone would want to make a nicely themed ROM or continue to integrate new features into their ROMs. Vanilla ROMs are cool but sometimes its nice to see a pimped out ROM.
Several themes for roms out there. I was commenting on the officially supported
Oh ya, I dont think Viewsonic wants to support anything officially. Not even their own software let alone someone elses.
Has the Viewsonic Gtablet development become a standstill?
Thoughts?
Opinions?
No.... I believe not.
Now everyone's holding their breath for HC.
Here somewhere is a post about latest development (sorry can't find it now).
HC is already booting on G-tab. Hopefully devs will get everything they need to get it going.
Keep my fingers crossed!!!!
You have a cyanogen tag in your sig and yet you ask that? They are releasing nightlies at least once a week. As far as Honeycomb goes it may be booting but its completely worthless to use.
I think I'll keep my thoughts and opinions to myself as anything negative about the wonderous GTab is not tolerated here
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You have a cyanogen tag in your sig and yet you ask that? They are releasing nightlies at least once a week. As far as Honeycomb goes it may be booting but its completely worthless to use.
I think I'll keep my thoughts and opinions to myself as anything negative about the wonderous GTab is not tolerated here
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LMFAO, you can always talk about the "horrible viewing angle" everybody CAN agree on!
Kenfly, there is actual progress reported that I believe involves a dump of an ASUS Honeycomb box that has been ported to the Adam and there is a picture of it on a G-tab. I just read about actual WPA2 support too.
Here is the thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1065220
The good news is, Roebeet has taken an interest too, so there are some VERY clever guys working on this!
Yes there is but it is completely unuseable at this point.
I was told the viewing angles are not horrible and to expressing my opinion of that as well
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1064775
Follow that thread. Oozura is doing a great job keeping everyone up to date with cm nightlies and releases with bugs and bug fixes. They are making huge progress on major issues right now. It means at some point Gojimi will update VeganGinger as well.
If you follow that thread keep mashing that thanks button for him so people know there is interest and he keeps posting
I see it slowing down as more turn towards the newer tablets on the market. Updates wont be as frequent...
If you have it setup good now then you'll be ok. Its not like the internet, video or audio will stop working because of this.
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No?
Looks like tons of action to me - pershoot and others have delivered stable overclocked/undervolted kernels in the past week, and the CM7 team has cranked out two stable and about 10 nightly revs in the past week, going from "yes, it sorta works" to functional camera and some hardware acceleration for video playback.
What projects are you working on?
there are more forums to search than the ones here (hint)
There's a lot going on, in early (VERY EARLY) stages.
While some might believe that the Gtab is worthless, I would argue that the hardware itself is not at all. The company that put their name on it, and their "support" might very well be as worthless as a batteries to the Amish.
There are experiments going on utilizing The Notion Ink Adam, and porting it's software to the G-tab. There's a rumor that they are getting an official GB update, and if portable to the G-tab, then we could essentially have an "official" GB Rom (including drivers from Nvidea), without VS needing to get their hands dirty. There are a few comparable (in hardware) tablets out there that are getting the support from their manufacturers that we would like to get from VS. If we can't get VS to update, then the next best thing is to borrow updates from other systems.
If it all works out, it will definitely not be a quick release. Lots of testing would be needed, since the code being worked on is not "made" for the G-tablet.
The reason that it seems like development has halted, or at best, slowed down, is because nothing new is coming from the allmighty VS. Nothing can be developed from the nothing that they are constantly providing. The only development that can be done is using existing Roms, and tweaking them. The bottom line, though, is that unless VS comes out with a GB Rom WITH hardware drivers, the current batch of custom Roms, Vegan-Tab, VeganGinger, CM7, TNT, etc. are dead in the water, and will never have hardware acceleration, since they are all based off of old code, that doesn't include it.
So, simple answer, there are developments that are ongoing, there are tweaks and fixes, possibly additions to some of the existing roms, but there will never be any development on new VS rom, until VS actually releases a new VS rom.
Only one person is building off VS firmware. Everyone else is using Google source and from the commits that Nvidia is making to git. VeganGinger and CM7 are under constant development and CM gets closer everyday to finalizing hardware acceleration. Vegan-Tab is froyo and based off vega firmware and has hardware acceleration as does TNTlite.
Depending on Notion Ink, the king of stretching the truth, for something is knuts
And yes there are some half ass non useful ports of Honeycomb posted on other sites. Nothing works. Its a honeycomb gui hacked into an old kernel
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While some might believe that the Gtab is worthless, I would argue that the hardware itself is not at all. The company that put their name on it, and their "support" might very well be as worthless as a batteries to the Amish.
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Great analogy. =)
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There are experiments going on utilizing The Notion Ink Adam, and porting it's software to the G-tab. There's a rumor that they are getting an official GB update, and if portable to the G-tab, then we could essentially have an "official" GB Rom (including drivers from Nvidea), without VS needing to get their hands dirty. There are a few comparable (in hardware) tablets out there that are getting the support from their manufacturers that we would like to get from VS. If we can't get VS to update, then the next best thing is to borrow updates from other systems.
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The NI software release, if they do in fact follow through with something for once, will be utilizing the exact same GB-compatible drivers that we already have. We already have "official" GB ROMs with the same level of HW accel that anything from NI would come out with. We already have those drivers from nVidia. =)
But you're right in implying that VS won't have to get their hands dirty. =)
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Nothing can be developed from the nothing that they are constantly providing. The only development that can be done is using existing Roms, and tweaking them. The bottom line, though, is that unless VS comes out with a GB Rom WITH hardware drivers, the current batch of custom Roms, Vegan-Tab, VeganGinger, CM7, TNT, etc. are dead in the water, and will never have hardware acceleration, since they are all based off of old code, that doesn't include it.
So, simple answer, there are developments that are ongoing, there are tweaks and fixes, possibly additions to some of the existing roms, but there will never be any development on new VS rom, until VS actually releases a new VS rom.
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Actually.... you're incorrect here. New development is being done completely independent of VS. It's called CyanogenMod-based and AOSP-based ROMs and they are completely different than those based on VS or NI-based ROMs which anything based on those are in fact MODs and tweaks. CM and AOSP ROMs are based on newer code and do include the foundation for hw acceleration.
So to summarize - development is not dead if you're not based on a locked bootloader and stock ROM from VS. If you're based on Google and nVidia then there is definitely development going on. It's all in what your base is.
We already have "official" GB ROMs with the same level of HW accel that anything from NI would come out with. We already have those drivers from nVidia.
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You'll have to excuse my ignorance on this issue, as all I've used so far is Vegan-Tab. I love it, it's stable, and I've not seen any inherent problems with it, so I figure, why change?
But, I thought that CM7 and VeganGinger had issues with video playback and 3d video acceleration, since Nvidea is "no longer going to support the Harmony Tegra 2 chipset." I don't know much about CM7, but from reading their website, and observing some of the experimental posts, it doesn't seem that they've been able to truly replicate the drivers that, I believe, Nvidea owes us. Nvidea said that they will provide support and updates if manufacturers requested it. As far as I know, Viewsonic only had one update since they made that statement, and it didn't include anything new from NVidea.
I had assumed that since this rumored NI GB update was official from the manufacturer, that they wouldn't have done it without getting official drivers from Nvidea.
I'm sorry, is there something I'm missing? I thought that it was a big deal that NVidea hasn't provided driver updates for true hardware acceleration, and that it can't be achieved without informaiton from them, and that they've decided ot no longer support...
it's a confusing world in the land of G-Tab.
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You'll have to excuse my ignorance on this issue, as all I've used so far is Vegan-Tab. I love it, it's stable, and I've not seen any inherent problems with it, so I figure, why change?
But, I thought that CM7 and VeganGinger had issues with video playback and 3d video acceleration, since Nvidea is "no longer going to support the Harmony Tegra 2 chipset." I don't know much about CM7, but from reading their website, and observing some of the experimental posts, it doesn't seem that they've been able to truly replicate the drivers that, I believe, Nvidea owes us. Nvidea said that they will provide support and updates if manufacturers requested it. As far as I know, Viewsonic only had one update since they made that statement, and it didn't include anything new from NVidea.
I had assumed that since this rumored NI GB update was official from the manufacturer, that they wouldn't have done it without getting official drivers from Nvidea.
I'm sorry, is there something I'm missing? I thought that it was a big deal that NVidea hasn't provided driver updates for true hardware acceleration, and that it can't be achieved without informaiton from them, and that they've decided ot no longer support...
it's a confusing world in the land of G-Tab.
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The rumored NI GB update is just that - rumor just like all the other NI rumors. We'll see what happens.
As to nVidia - the 3991 update that was later pulled from VS contained updated GB-compatible libs that were from the Gingerbread Ventana system image from nVidia. Those libs were (and still are) in CM7 and AOSP and VEGAn-TAB. Hacks and mods have been inserted to make CM7 work with them and hw accel is functioning much better after pershoot's kernel overclocking.
thank you for the clarification
I just purchased a Viewsonic G Tablet from Amazon for $299...I have heard great things about it and have done some research. I was going to get a used ipad 1st gen for about the same price but I really want to root & do a lot of customizing more than what the ipad allows...
I have read the articles on rooting/flashing ROMS for it. I already have a OG Droid rooted running UD3.1.1 and loving every minute of it! I want to do something similar with the gTab.
I have looked into ROMS to flash onto the gTab & it seems two stand out the most: CM7 and VEGAn....I am somewhat familiar with CM7 since when I was looking for ROMs for my Droid it was one of the more popular ones. VEGAn I don't know much about but it seems the reviews are mostly high praise for speed & battery life...I would like options like on UD (overclocking, etc)
For anyone who has a G Tablet what ROMs are you using & why? Any others I should look into (I know about TnT Lite but it is retired so I prefer not to use that one. I am waiting for Honeycomb to become more stable before trying it...that is the main one I want to strive for!
Any other tips I should know about the G Tablet?
Thank You!
CM7 is a great (stable) 2.3.3 build for the GTab. It does offer some nice OC options (thanks to pershoot's kernels) as well as all of the customization you'd expect from a CM rom.
I ran Vegan Ginger for a while and IT IS FAST!!! I'm not entirely sure why I switched to CM7, but I've considered going back from time to time.
I was running the Calkulin+Clemsyn Froyo combo for a while (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1024120) and that ran very well for me also. It is a more stock looking ROM, with fewer standard Android options. That's not necessarily a bad thing, but as Android develops, 2.2 just isn't as exciting as it once was. That ROM also benefits from full hardware graphic acceleration; a feat that is still a work-in-progress for GB builds.
Overall, I like CM7. It's not quite as zippy as Vegan Ginger, and not as stable as the Froyo build.
My 2 cents.
EDIT: I remember now. I went to CM7 because it supports the Netflix app.
If your goal is to get to HC, when it's bugs are worked out, then it would benefit you to go with a 1.2 bootloader Rom. Brilliant Corners is the Vegan 5.1.1 ported to bootloader 1.2. Once you're ready for HC, you won't need to back out to stock in order to flash it...
It's not difficult to back out to stock, but why make more work for yourself if you don't need to.
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If your goal is to get to HC, when it's bugs are worked out, then it would benefit you to go with a 1.2 bootloader Rom. Brilliant Corners is the Vegan 5.1.1 ported to bootloader 1.2. Once you're ready for HC, you won't need to back out to stock in order to flash it...
It's not difficult to back out to stock, but why make more work for yourself if you don't need to.
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I heard of Vegan but not Brilliant Corners? Would you happen to have a link? I am all for making things easier so if it's a good ROM I will be more than willing to give it a go. Yes HC is my main wish for this tablet...why have a tab without honeycomb?
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CM7 is a great (stable) 2.3.3 build for the GTab. It does offer some nice OC options (thanks to pershoot's kernels) as well as all of the customization you'd expect from a CM rom.
I ran Vegan Ginger for a while and IT IS FAST!!! I'm not entirely sure why I switched to CM7, but I've considered going back from time to time.
I was running the Calkulin+Clemsyn Froyo combo for a while (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1024120) and that ran very well for me also. It is a more stock looking ROM, with fewer standard Android options. That's not necessarily a bad thing, but as Android develops, 2.2 just isn't as exciting as it once was. That ROM also benefits from full hardware graphic acceleration; a feat that is still a work-in-progress for GB builds.
Overall, I like CM7. It's not quite as zippy as Vegan Ginger, and not as stable as the Froyo build.
My 2 cents.
EDIT: I remember now. I went to CM7 because it supports the Netflix app.
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+1 on this - I was about to type out the same thing basically... very happy with CM7. Haven't tried the nightlies yet, but I may soon.
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I heard of Vegan but not Brilliant Corners? Would you happen to have a link? I am all for making things easier so if it's a good ROM I will be more than willing to give it a go. Yes HC is my main wish for this tablet...why have a tab without honeycomb?
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We're not allowed to post links ot other forums, but googling "Brilliant Corners G-Tablet" should get you where you need to be. it was a project of Roebeet, the developer of TNT lite, and a corroberator on Vegan 5.1.1. Basically, he took all of the older 1.1 roms that he worked on and ported them to the 1.2 dev branch, suspecting that 1.2 was going to be the future of development. Once you've found the forum that his rom's are now on, you can read up on some other posts to get other options for the 1.2 branch. Clemysn and Pershoot have been assisting in kernel development and tweaking. On 1.2, there are many more options of Roms to run, from Adam roms, Zpad, etc, since they use similar bootloaders.
I rooted my g with the Vegan 7 - VERY stable and easy to work with. The instuctions are on this site with the downloads
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We're not allowed to post links ot other forums, but googling "Brilliant Corners G-Tablet" should get you where you need to be. it was a project of Roebeet, the developer of TNT lite, and a corroberator on Vegan 5.1.1. Basically, he took all of the older 1.1 roms that he worked on and ported them to the 1.2 dev branch, suspecting that 1.2 was going to be the future of development. Once you've found the forum that his rom's are now on, you can read up on some other posts to get other options for the 1.2 branch. Clemysn and Pershoot have been assisting in kernel development and tweaking. On 1.2, there are many more options of Roms to run, from Adam roms, Zpad, etc, since they use similar bootloaders.
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Oh I'm sorry for asking for a link...I'm on so many forums and each one has different rules...actually after i asked for the link I did do a google search & found the site...the only thing is their rule of 3 posts before being allowed to download or post a new thread! I really don't know what to post yet since this part of android is new to me & I haven't explored enough to ask/comment on questions...LOL.
I have read that the Honeycomb ROM is VERY close to being upgraded to Beta which is awesome! I may just go right to HC...The 2 things I read that are "issues' are the G-sensor and accessing specific emails in Gmail. But it is supposed to be VERY quick & awesome....except for booting...I heard that was kind of slow...
We'll see. My gTab was shipped yesterday from Chicago & is coming to Western NY via Priority Mail so I am hoping before the weekend...
Thanks again for the help everyone!
It's only natural to ask for links, don't apologize. What's unnatural is not being allowed to help people by posting one
I'm not even sure I posted 3 times before using that site...if anything, just find a post and make a general comment, or ask a question. I'm over there 2, as are most people that either currently are, or were regular mambers of this site. they'll understand if you want to get your post count up so that you'll have access to the files.
As far as Honeycomb, there is suspicion that some of the issues are due to lack of OpenGL drivers from Nvidea. supposedly they can be correced in kernel development, but hte kernel base is different than anything else we are using right now. Clemysn even said it was difficult and gave him headaches.
for instance, the mail issue...it's been reported that there is a way to get the messages to show, but that you can't "see" where to touch to access it. the lack of OpenGL shading is not letting the graphics display properly. It's my hope, that once OpenGL is taken care of, that this will be a 100% working, stable release of HC for us. There isn't one Rom out yet for the g-tablet that has working, official hardware acceration support from Nvidea. HC would be the first, if anyone can get it working.
to use an analogy, what we have are 12 cylinder supercars, but the manufacture only provided a way to get spark to 4 of them.. some developers have figured out how to expand that to 8, but we're still not realizing the true potential of this engine. It may go as fast as it should, with tweaks, but it sometimes doesn't sound, or look very pretty doing it.
Go ahead up to HoneyComb Alpha3.0.1 by Roebeet and dev teams!
If you don't mind to have some bumps during the dev, flash to HoneyComb BoS Alpha3.0.1... sweetest thing...now I feel Gtablet worth for every penny I spent!
Search for that because I know this forum doesn't allow to post the full URL of other forums!
I can't seem to find any threads about ICS for the Tab. I thought with the release of the source there would at least be some threads asking if anyone can build a rom. Is there more that needs to come out before this starts to happen? I know build are already being created for my phone (Incredible). Just surprised I guess. Of course I'm no developer, so maybe there's something I'm missing?
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I can't seem to find any threads about ICS for the Tab. I thought with the release of the source there would at least be some threads asking if anyone can build a rom. Is there more that needs to come out before this starts to happen? I know build are already being created for my phone (Incredible). Just surprised I guess. Of course I'm no developer, so maybe there's something I'm missing?
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I'm not bashing, but for the tab we have "cooks" that work off a template (Stock ROMS). So far, all the ROMS we've had haven't introduced anything new, they've only improved on what has existed. I also realize there was no honeycomb source to work with.
Again, I love what the devs here have done for us thus far. But, I fear we will have no ICS love for the tab until we have an ICS leak straight from Samsung.
I guess that's pretty accurate, it's a shame and kind of odd as they gave out the tab at the developers convention, you'd think it'd be more popular amongst those that know how to do these sorts of things....
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I guess that's pretty accurate, it's a shame and kind of odd as they gave out the tab at the developers convention, you'd think it'd be more popular amongst those that know how to do these sorts of things....
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Nvidia doesn't release their source so the drivers are proprietary. I'm guessing the 3.X drivers aren't 100% compatible with ICS which means, like someone just said, a leak needs to occur before a working build can be developed.
Supposedly ICS is built off the honeycomb framework. However, the honeycomb specific source is not flagged in the ics source. I am sure we will see it sometime soon in alpha, but we're just now leaking out 3.2 so don't expect it as fast as say the nexus s or evo.
I know ICS is on the way but I am not particularly excited about it.
I was using honeycomb on my gtablet for a few months and was constantly frustrated by the laggyness and broken features. I am not ungrateful because I know the developers are working with what they have, which is next to nothing. But that doesn't stop it from being true that the honeycomb roms were not very stable.
I recently switched down to froyo, trying to get skype working so I could maybe give it to a friend for that purpose, and i was blown away by the stability and speed! It is amazing and I have actually used it to accomplish a few things in my daily life which I can't say I was able to do before. It really left an impression on me that just because an OS is old it doesn't mean it can't be better than the latest.
So now my concern is that ICS will be the same. Is there anything developers can really do to make ICS good without the source code/drivers? Or will it be another ROM that is just there to say you have the latest android on your device, no matter how many compromises there are with it.
I've got ICS on my droid incredible and on my galaxy nexus, and it would be cool to have it on all 3. But I have no problem keeping froyo on my tablet if it is simply better at accomplishing a task.
Haterade disclaimer
This post is not meant to bad mouth the developers or the community. In fact I am constantly amazed at what they are able to accomplish with so little. I don't mean to imply what they do is easy. I also don't think I could do any better. I wouldn't be able to do it in 10 years.
The gTablet actually has pretty decent specs. As a developer on ICS I can tell you that I can boot my tablet in 20 seconds and it operates great. Obviously there are still bug fixes but the build is progressing well. HD video and HW accel all work. Flashback or whatever HC build was laggy because the lack of proper drivers/kernel. We now have all of that for ICS. I'm guessing that by the time our build is done/tweaked it will be more stable and faster than froyo. Keep your head up and watch for the release sooner than later.
You have to take into account that the versions of Honeycomb on the gTablet were hacks of other device versions. It wasn't a true build for our devices, which is why some things wouldn't work. With FroYo, everything is working since all the pieces have been available.
What makes things look better with the ICS development (compared to Honeycomb) is that they are developing a kernel specifically for the gTablet. This, in itself, should make it a lot better than the pieced-together Honeycomb ports. Already they have hardware acceleration and HD video working, things that were only present in FroYo ROMs prior to this new kernel. Personally, I think the ICS build is looking stronger than any Gingerbread or Honeycomb version ported to the gTablet.
Sent from my gTablet using Tapatalk.
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The gTablet actually has pretty decent specs. As a developer on ICS I can tell you that I can boot my tablet in 20 seconds and it operates great. Obviously there are still bug fixes but the build is progressing well. HD video and HW accel all work. Flashback or whatever HC build was laggy because the lack of proper drivers/kernel. We now have all of that for ICS. I'm guessing that by the time our build is done/tweaked it will be more stable and faster than froyo. Keep your head up and watch for the release sooner than later.
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This is exactly the response I was hoping to hear.
I wasn't exactly sure if we would get HW accel and HD video with ICS. I knew we didn't have it on HC.
I'll stay optimistic though, thanks.
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You have to take into account that the versions of Honeycomb on the gTablet were hacks of other device versions. It wasn't a true build for our devices, which is why some things wouldn't work. With FroYo, everything is working since all the pieces have been available.
What makes things look better with the ICS development (compared to Honeycomb) is that they are developing a kernel specifically for the gTablet. This, in itself, should make it a lot better than the pieced-together Honeycomb ports. Already they have hardware acceleration and HD video working, things that were only present in FroYo ROMs prior to this new kernel. Personally, I think the ICS build is looking stronger than any Gingerbread or Honeycomb version ported to the gTablet.
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Thanks for that. Now I am excited lol.
If we can get a 1.5ghz ICS build as fast as the Froyo ROMS and as stable then that is fantastic. That was exactly what I was unsure about... since Gingerbread and Honeycomb were not so strong, would the same be true with ICS? I guess the answer is no, ICS should be awesome for our tablet.
drizzt5 said:
This is exactly the response I was hoping to hear.
I wasn't exactly sure if we would get HW accel and HD video with ICS. I knew we didn't have it on HC.
I'll stay optimistic though, thanks.
Thanks for that. Now I am excited lol.
If we can get a 1.5ghz ICS build as fast as the Froyo ROMS and as stable then that is fantastic. That was exactly what I was unsure about... since Gingerbread and Honeycomb were not so strong, would the same be true with ICS? I guess the answer is no, ICS should be awesome for our tablet.
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Don't worry we have a great team working on it, and as fosser says when it is released everything will run fast with HW acceleration, there will be no reason to ever run froyo again, unless you like running retro stuff for fun
the3dman said:
Don't worry we have a great team working on it, and as fosser says when it is released everything will run fast with HW acceleration, there will be no reason to ever run froyo again, unless you like running retro stuff for fun
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Camera will likely be working right?
Nevermind, I saw the DRH rom and it says no camera atm. I hope that could be added soon.
Hello all! For my first post, I'd like to say THANK YOU tohat all the developers that have worked so hard to bring us all these great ROMs. I have currently rolled back to the stock ROM, and will likely suffer with froyo until this ICS ROM comes out. While I am looking forward to it, I also know that nothing happens in a vacuum. If you devs are willing, I would be eager to volunteer my time and experience (close to two decades of using and building Linux systems and troubleshooting kernel problems, as well as configuring and building kernels) towards this project as a start. If there is any interest, any of you can PM me from here. And again, thanks!
Oops! Got my threads switched. The above was for the ICS ROM thread. Sorry for the confusion.
drizzt5, the beta links are live over on SD if you wanna check the speed and stability of ICS.
fosser2 said:
drizzt5, the beta links are live over on SD if you wanna check the speed and stability of ICS.
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I actually had it downloaded and installed last night and have been playing with it for most of today.
It is fast, but unless I flashed it incorrectly or something it doesn't appear to be nearly as stable as froyo.
Yes, it is in beta and has just been released so it would be foolish of me to expect it to instantly be as stable as the froyo roms. But this is just not there yet. Browser crashes often for me.
Like I said before.
I've got ICS on my droid incredible and on my galaxy nexus, and it would be cool to have it on all 3. But I have no problem keeping froyo on my tablet if it is simply better at accomplishing a task.
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I can see the hard work that has gone into this ROM, and I can see the benefits from working from the ground up for just this tablet. I love what you guys are doing. Keep up the good work and it might eventually get to that level.