Related
Okay I'm a noob and I've watched the noob video. I've tried but I just can't seem to find the answers to these questions...
I have a Bell locked SGS2. Do I have to unlock before I do any rooting?
What is the difference between flashing vs installing a custom ROM?
Are Cyanogen and MIUI roms? Are they firmware? What the heck is firmware?
Why does the Canadian guide tell me I have to download a firmware to root?
If I install this firmware (through Odin), then can I flash MIUI?
I thought I would be able to figure this out in afternoon. Guess not.
Thanks. If there's an FAQ for all this stuff that I missed, please direct me to it.
Ugh normally I would tell you to stop expecting things to get spoon fed to you, but I can't bother.
No you do not need to unlock before you root. Unlocking has nothing to do with android or system.
Flashing is the process of installing or copying a new system over to your phone. A custom rom is a rom derived from stock/manufacturer rom but altered. Be it apps removed, new kernel, or the source code was altered.
Cyanogen and MIUI roms are roms derived from google android source code but changed to make the system better. Firmware is software, it is the leader of the hardware, it tells the hardware what to do. In other words, without software, your phone cannot do anything.
Go search up on how to root, I stop spoon feeding you here. Get some independence, 13 yrs old? Great time to start developing independence. 16? Not bad, recommend you start developing now. 18? Woowhee kinda late, better late than never though. 21? Wow...
Go look at the MIUI guide to see how to install.
Google is your best friend. If you can't use it i'm sorry but this technological world is too much for you and I recommend you stick to a dumbphone or iphone.
nickdenis09 said:
What is the difference between flashing vs installing a custom ROM?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Two names for the same thing.
nickdenis09 said:
Are Cyanogen and MIUI roms? Are they firmware?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Both.
Two names for the same thing.
nickdenis09 said:
What the heck is firmware?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The IMO better term for the OS running on your phone.
nickdenis09 said:
Why does the Canadian guide tell me I have to download a firmware to root?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
'cause they don't know better.
A root(able) kernel is enough already.
Hi,
I'm looking for a gingerbread rom to install on my friend's Optimus One. I myself have ZTE Blade and I have been installing custom roms and that sort of stuff for some time so I know how this work, but I'm looking for a stable, plain and unrooted rom for my friend's phone as he is not the most tech savvy guy out there. I found the official 2.3.3 update from LG but I've been reading that it's very buggy. What would you guys recommend?
Thanks in advance,
Arnar.
arnarg said:
Hi,
I'm looking for a gingerbread rom to install on my friend's Optimus One. I myself have ZTE Blade and I have been installing custom roms and that sort of stuff for some time so I know how this work, but I'm looking for a stable, plain and unrooted rom for my friend's phone as he is not the most tech savvy guy out there. I found the official 2.3.3 update from LG but I've been reading that it's very buggy. What would you guys recommend?
Thanks in advance,
Arnar.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I think most if not all custom roms are rooted. If you're looking for something stable, IMO go for oxygen v1.1. Old baseband though.
Sent from my HTC-Desire using xda premium
Joel Chan said:
I think most if not all custom roms are rooted. If you're looking for something stable, IMO go for oxygen v1.1. Old baseband though.
Sent from my HTC-Desire using xda premium
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I guess I could just tell him to stay out of apps requiring Superuser access or even make him learn this stuff But I'm guessing LG have not released a less buggy version then?
arnarg said:
I guess I could just tell him to stay out of apps requiring Superuser access or even make him learn this stuff But I'm guessing LG have not released a less buggy version then?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Don't worry, the LG official gingerbread is not buggy. It's just bad.
Sent from my LG-P500 using xda premium
One more thing... On ZTE Blade we have gen1 and 2 phones (same specs, different partition layout and radio if I understand correctly), certain roms will not work on gen1 phones and such. Does the optimus one have something equivalent to that? If i want to install Oxygen v1.1, like you suggested, is it as simple as rooting, installing custom recovery and flashing the rom?
arnarg said:
One more thing... On ZTE Blade we have gen1 and 2 phones (same specs, different partition layout and radio if I understand correctly), certain roms will not work on gen1 phones and such. Does the optimus one have something equivalent to that? If i want to install Oxygen v1.1, like you suggested, is it as simple as rooting, installing custom recovery and flashing the rom?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
By all means, yes!
But the O1 has 2 two basebands - v10xx and **** v20xx
If you wanna check which one you have go to -
settings>about phone
And there will be written the baseband version.
If its v10xx then you can proceed with the steps you've mentioned.
Read the sticky FAQ in this section for more details.
arnarg said:
Hi,
I'm looking for a gingerbread rom to install on my friend's Optimus One. I myself have ZTE Blade and I have been installing custom roms and that sort of stuff for some time so I know how this work, but I'm looking for a stable, plain and unrooted rom for my friend's phone as he is not the most tech savvy guy out there. I found the official 2.3.3 update from LG but I've been reading that it's very buggy. What would you guys recommend?
Thanks in advance,
Arnar.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
LG official gb has no bugs ,, the only problem is that it drains 1% battery every hour... whenever i wake up in the morning i notice that 6-8 % battery is drained... while cm7 roms drain only 2% per night btw if your friend is not techno freak then official gb is best as it has no bugs and you may flash franco.kernel for gb over official gb to give it more smoothness
I ran CM7 nightlies on my DInc2 and updated to the stable version the day it came out. Technically, I am a noob so I really don't know what I am doing, I just know what I like and I can follow directions. (Except for Matt's ICS update when I forgot to protect the root and had to start over with .181, doh!)
Why is it that CyanogenMod is unavailable for one of the hottest phones on the market? Is it because of the locked boot loader? (which I will have to look up cause I don't even know what the heck a boot loader is anyway)
It's not über important, I just really miss my CM7 and was wondering if anyone knew the answer.
Locked bootloader= no custom kernals also there is cm9 but not cm7 nobody wants cm7 anymore ....
Sent from my Spectrum....Verizon's most underrated phone
You don't need custom kernels to have official CM.
That being said, our devs are hard at work on making a fully functional CM ROM - thing is though, since we have to work around the kernel that our devices are working using a process called "2nd-init", since we have locked bootloaders, everything is taking a lot longer and is a lot harder.
We have a partially working CM9 ROM over at http://droidhive.com. We also have AOKP.
Would you recommend a partially working version for noob who really loves CM?
jdadad23 said:
Would you recommend a partially working version for noob who really loves CM?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Get the fist leaked ICS. It is cool.
Sent from my DROID RAZR using XDA Premium App
I am running 4.0.3. I agree, it is cool. I still think I prefer CM.
CM isn't necessary at this point in time.
hy,
i am quite sure this questions wer answered x-times, but i didn´t find the answer in the forum, so i will ask:
1) Can we expect that the Bootloader will ever be UNLOCKED?
2) Are some DEV´s (and who?) working on it? Do they inform the folk on ex. twitter or so, like the iPhone guys (musclenerd, pod2g, ionic,...)
3) I already updated to ICS-TMobile-Leak, is my bootloader now different to the one in GB?
somehow i thought, i shoud write a NEW post, but i hope its okay to ask here, coz +1(wanna hav CM9 toooo)
greets
lordvampire said:
hy,
i am quite sure this questions wer answered x-times, but i didn´t find the answer in the forum, so i will ask:
1) Can we expect that the Bootloader will ever be UNLOCKED?
2) Are some DEV´s (and who?) working on it? Do they inform the folk on ex. twitter or so, like the iPhone guys (musclenerd, pod2g, ionic,...)
3) I already updated to ICS-TMobile-Leak, is my bootloader now different to the one in GB?
somehow i thought, i shoud write a NEW post, but i hope its okay to ask here, coz +1(wanna hav CM9 toooo)
greets
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
1. I think only Moto can unlock the bootloader, cause someone else told me it's an hard work because of 3 layers of encrypted code (I don't know what it means!)...it requires a lot of time and a powerfull machine
2. see n°1, Eternity project team are working on a bypass for bootloader (kexec)
3. ICS Bootloader is different from GB one, I guess.
draga277 said:
1. I think only Moto can unlock the bootloader, cause someone else told me it's an hard work because of 3 layers of encrypted code (I don't know what it means!)...it requires a lot of time and a powerfull machine
2. see n°1, Eternity project team are working on a bypass for bootloader (kexec)
3. ICS Bootloader is different from GB one, I guess.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
and if this kexec is developed, we can flash costum kernels and so CM9 too???
yes.
lordvampire said:
and if this kexec is developed, we can flash costum kernels and so CM9 too???
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Wait a moment...kexec is not necessary for CM9 flashing...you can flash modded rom, yet.
kexec (or unlocked bootloader) is required for mod kernels!
I am on icsleak, means i cannot flash costum rom as long as devs are not developing roms for my existing kernel right?
So i need to have kexec to bypass the kernel flashing to flash a costum rom...
Sent from my XT910 using Tapatalk
lordvampire said:
I am on icsleak, means i cannot flash costum rom as long as devs are not developing roms for my existing kernel right?
So i need to have kexec to bypass the kernel flashing to flash a costum rom...
Sent from my XT910 using Tapatalk
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
First phrase. Yes, I think so, if you can't downgrade to GB, as I guess
Second hrare. I don't know if kexec gives you this opportunity. You have always to flash a compatible kernel with a custom rom, its or others. This is my guess, someone else can confirm or not?
Just waiting on a custom kernel now that we have trwp and my phone is complete hoping dr87 will make a version of simple kernel for the g3
I believe this is just a work around so boot loader is still locked but you can flash roms
Sent from my VS985 4G using Tapatalk
jparasita said:
I believe this is just a work around so boot loader is still locked but you can flash roms
Sent from my VS985 4G using Tapatalk
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
fyi
Quote:
Originally Posted by thecubed
Hi there,
You're perfectly fine to have an opinion, and I'm glad you phrased it as such - it's not offensive at all what you have to say. However, I don't necessarily agree with everything you've written though.
1. Yes, this is a true unlock. There is no other unlock mechanism on these phones. This is not a work-around, and calling it as such implies that there is any alternate method to use.
2. As for bricking, unfortunately we can't be held responsible for people that haven't done the legwork to verify that what they're doing is safe. We (Team Codefire) never released any mods for the G3 variants that were not unlocked in an effort to do our side of the responsibility to not make it easy for people to accidentally brick their phones. Now that recovery is released, if the end user does not ensure that TWRP functions on their device and ends up getting it in a state where the stock rom does not boot - this is 100% their problem as we were careful to ensure that all the information an informed user needs to make this work on their phones is out there.
2a. Regarding CrossDL, we actually will have a workaround for that here soon. As long as people don't touch their LAF or Factory partitions we can unbrick them from almost anything short of them editing sbl/rpm/tz partitions (which nobody should ever be doing!)
So are you implying boot loader is unlocked? Because this is similar to Loki like on the g2
Sent from my VS985 4G using Tapatalk
jparasita said:
So are you implying boot loader is unlocked? Because this is similar to Loki like on the g2
Sent from my VS985 4G using Tapatalk
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
This is from the Bumped thread
Is this similar to Loki?
No, you will not need to ensure your firmware version matches exactly with the ROM you have. You will only need to make sure that the ROM you downloaded is compatible with your carrier.
desireaftergod said:
This is from the Bumped thread
Is this similar to Loki?
No, you will not need to ensure your firmware version matches exactly with the ROM you have. You will only need to make sure that the ROM you downloaded is compatible with your carrier.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Ok my point is without the boot loader being unlocked no custom kernals
Sent from my VS985 4G using Tapatalk
jparasita said:
Ok my point is without the boot loader being unlocked no custom kernals
Sent from my VS985 4G using Tapatalk
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Dude geez custom kernels will be no issue,aosp won't come with stock kernel.. Its not Loki ,its unlock.. Dev will upload there stuff to server it will be bumped and rest is history..
---------- Post added at 02:08 AM ---------- Previous post was at 02:07 AM ----------
Without going into details the end user will have no worries ,flash kernels,aosp,mods, etc
jparasita said:
Ok my point is without the boot loader being unlocked no custom kernals
Sent from my VS985 4G using Tapatalk
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It is unlocked...
jparasita said:
Ok my point is without the boot loader being unlocked no custom kernals
Sent from my VS985 4G using Tapatalk
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It's already been started by the devs that roms AND kernels will be able to be flashed as long as they are bump compatible. So yes there will be custom kernels.
As already stated here, and in other threads as well as the official Bump thread by the developers themselves, this has unlocked our bootloader. We are essentially free to flash ROMs, kernels, and other mods (provided they've been Bumped) as if this were a Nexus device. The past couple days have been a fantastic turn of events for our lovely device.
Now, am I the only one constantly checking the development threads hoping for one that has [ROM] in its title? I know we're probably weeks away, but I can't contain myself. I'll gladly donate $50 to the first developer who brings us a fully functional AOSP ROM.
Rodeojones said:
As already stated here, and in other threads as well as the official Bump thread by the developers themselves, this has unlocked our bootloader. We are essentially free to flash ROMs, kernels, and other mods (provided they've been Bumped) as if this were a Nexus device. The past couple days have been a fantastic turn of events for our lovely devic .
Now, am I the only one constantly checking the development threads hoping for one that has [ROM] in its title? I know we're probably weeks away, but I can't contain myself. I'll gladly donate $50 to the first developer who brings us a fully functional AOSP ROM.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I heard someone had cyanogenmod running already
Chilidog said:
I heard someone had cyanogenmod running already
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Some devs were given the bump api early so they could get to working on ROM's.
There is a working CM with bugs in the works and should be released probably around the same time the bump api is released.
People are talking something as long as the developer "bumped, bumps" roms and kernels, what does that exactly means?
Hyper_Warp said:
People are talking something as long as the developer "bumped, bumps" roms and kernels, what does that exactly means?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The roms have to be modified (aka bumped) to work with this method of flashing.
Unheard said:
The roms have to be modified (aka bumped) to work with this method of flashing.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Roms don't have to be modified the boot.IMG has to be bumped so we can flash,cubed has said very simple and will share soon with the Dev so the end user has no worries.
so does anyone have anything to test yet. I am itching. I preordered a note 4 the other day now I am thinking I will be cancelling that
Unheard said:
The roms have to be modified (aka bumped) to work with this method of flashing.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
ok thanks
Oh btw for anyone that told me this was not a work around eat it!
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/lg-g3-bootloader-workaround-xdatv/
Sent from my VS985 4G using Tapatalk
So stoked for roms. This is my first android device. Today I did my first nandroid backup and tried out jasmineRom for a second.
jparasita said:
Oh btw for anyone that told me this was not a work around eat it!
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/lg-g3-bootloader-workaround-xdatv/
Sent from my VS985 4G using Tapatalk
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
True unlock last time I checked the arthor of that did not have anything to do with it. Idk what makes them think its a workaround.
That's like LG saying thats an LG G3 & and your telling them no it's a fake (clone)
Who are you going to believe
Anyways it don't matter it's unlocked why are you stressing it so much? Lol
Just curious, I like the phone and use it over my Nite 5 when I want something slim. But there's no new roms. Why is that?
F9zSlavik said:
Just curious, I like the phone and use it over my Nite 5 when I want something slim. But there's no new roms. Why is that?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
everyone is waiting for the marshmallow release
There's lots of new roms, they are just over here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s5/development
and they don't have wifi calling
I'm sorry I'm still learning. Are there certain versions we are supposed to use with the tmobile variant?
Roms and Kernels for any of the snapdragon models ( G900F/M/I/L/K/T/S/W8 ) should work on the t-mobile version, however only t-mobile based roms will have wifi calling so if you are addicted to wifi calling you will need to stick to t-mobile roms.
Also there isn't MM 6X bootloader or radio for your phone yet so the MM roms may not work I haven't tried one yet...
I've been running thunderbolt v2 for a week, very nice 5X N5 ported rom with lots of cool new features t-mobile is too cheap to enable.
the current version of thunderbolt is an MM rom so it may not work over the 5x bootloader and radio...
I also ran PopWiz Telstra v5.1 for nearly a month it's another great rom.
I recomend the kernels made for the roms too, the kernels for t-moble will break the camera and give you another problem to solve and there are several really nice kernels over in the other s5 thread anyway...
probably better served to stick with T-mobile, then root & debloat.
cognus said:
probably better served to stick with T-mobile, then root & debloat.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
If you're not any braver than that you might as well stay stock!
OldeCrow said:
If you're not any braver than that you might as well stay stock!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
ha! well I understand the sentiment, but there are good reasons for slimming down the stock rom. I have been around here quite awhile and have never seen anyone succeed at graftin the T-mo Wifi Calling app into a full custom ROM. Neither have I ever seen a successful substitute for the feature - it works very well no thanks to T-Mo but thanks to the small expert contractor that developed the code.
so for those who like the feature, we debloat, and enjoy life
cognus said:
ha! well I understand the sentiment, but there are good reasons for slimming down the stock rom. I have been around here quite awhile and have never seen anyone succeed at graftin the T-mo Wifi Calling app into a full custom ROM. Neither have I ever seen a successful substitute for the feature - it works very well no thanks to T-Mo but thanks to the small expert contractor that developed the code.
so for those who like the feature, we debloat, and enjoy life
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I gotcha, I wasn't suggesting trying to get wifi calling working in another rom, Just that you would have to go without it if you flash one of the international roms...
I have found the google hangouts dialer to be a reliable substitute for wifi calling so It is an easy move for me to wander away from a t-moble rom.
I realize many have not had as much success with hangouts for various reasons but it works for me. Plus I really don't need it at all anyway.
and HERE it is...
OldeCrow said:
Roms and Kernels for any of the snapdragon models ( G900F/M/I/L/K/T/S/W8 ) should work on the t-mobile version, however only t-mobile based roms will have wifi calling so if you are addicted to wifi calling you will need to stick to t-mobile roms.
Also there isn't MM 6X bootloader or radio for your phone yet so the MM roms may not work I haven't tried one yet...
I've been running thunderbolt v2 for a week, very nice 5X N5 ported rom with lots of cool new features t-mobile is too cheap to enable.
the current version of thunderbolt is an MM rom so it may not work over the 5x bootloader and radio...
I also ran PopWiz Telstra v5.1 for nearly a month it's another great rom.
I recomend the kernels made for the roms too, the kernels for t-moble will break the camera and give you another problem to solve and there are several really nice kernels over in the other s5 thread anyway...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
hi? are you saying any tmobile galaxy phone will work with international roms of F, C, H and so on versions? I have been wondering why many tmobile sub forums are always quiet under development section
jazzdglass said:
hi? are you saying any tmobile galaxy phone will work with international roms of F, C, H and so on versions? I have been wondering why many tmobile sub forums are always quiet under development section
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Ya pretty much, G900F/M/I/L/K/T/S/W8 roms should work with only minor tinkering, most of the roms over in the GS5 development thread are based off of the g900f debbase from ALEXNDR so it is probably safer to say any g900f rom will work on most any other snapdragon s5.
Although I have to say I've been on our t-mobile MM rom, deodexed/rooted and I find it pretty much flawless so I haven't been sampling the other roms for a couple of weeks now...
Have u tried this one ? @OldeCrow
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2741302
There is specific warning, also it has bootloader, modem, modem lte.
DO THIS BEFORE INSTALLING THE ROM - ONLY FOR G900F:
This is only for G900F, if you do this on other S5, you might brick your device!
Sent from my SM-G900T using XDA-Developers mobile app
[email protected] said:
Have u tried this one ? @OldeCrow
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2741302
There is specific warning, also it has bootloader, modem, modem lte.
DO THIS BEFORE INSTALLING THE ROM - ONLY FOR G900F:
This is only for G900F, if you do this on other S5, you might brick your device!
Sent from my SM-G900T using XDA-Developers mobile app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You should be fine, the modem and boot-loader are separate and you couldn't flash them if you wanted to, they are not for our phone!
As long as you are already on our MM build Phoenix should install just fine. If you still haven't upgraded to MM officially MM roms might have trouble with the older radio and boot-loader.
The Phoenix kernel is one of the best kernels over there too.
I would take the customer.xml from your current MM CSC and place it in the zip for Phoenix before you flash it so you have the t-mobile apn info already in the rom when you flash it.
Yes I m currently on MM.
First tell me how to backup all, especially efs folder, my two phones got a problem coz of EFS , no network issue and changed many firmware but didnt get successful.
Anyways which software/app is best flashfire ? Or any other? Will custom twrp recovery do the job ?
And then please guide me to what I have to do first, for installing tht rom coz according to the OP in tht thread, my device will brick.
Thanks for replying
Sent from my SM-G900T using XDA-Developers mobile app