Just curious, I like the phone and use it over my Nite 5 when I want something slim. But there's no new roms. Why is that?
F9zSlavik said:
Just curious, I like the phone and use it over my Nite 5 when I want something slim. But there's no new roms. Why is that?
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everyone is waiting for the marshmallow release
There's lots of new roms, they are just over here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s5/development
and they don't have wifi calling
I'm sorry I'm still learning. Are there certain versions we are supposed to use with the tmobile variant?
Roms and Kernels for any of the snapdragon models ( G900F/M/I/L/K/T/S/W8 ) should work on the t-mobile version, however only t-mobile based roms will have wifi calling so if you are addicted to wifi calling you will need to stick to t-mobile roms.
Also there isn't MM 6X bootloader or radio for your phone yet so the MM roms may not work I haven't tried one yet...
I've been running thunderbolt v2 for a week, very nice 5X N5 ported rom with lots of cool new features t-mobile is too cheap to enable.
the current version of thunderbolt is an MM rom so it may not work over the 5x bootloader and radio...
I also ran PopWiz Telstra v5.1 for nearly a month it's another great rom.
I recomend the kernels made for the roms too, the kernels for t-moble will break the camera and give you another problem to solve and there are several really nice kernels over in the other s5 thread anyway...
probably better served to stick with T-mobile, then root & debloat.
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probably better served to stick with T-mobile, then root & debloat.
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If you're not any braver than that you might as well stay stock!
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If you're not any braver than that you might as well stay stock!
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ha! well I understand the sentiment, but there are good reasons for slimming down the stock rom. I have been around here quite awhile and have never seen anyone succeed at graftin the T-mo Wifi Calling app into a full custom ROM. Neither have I ever seen a successful substitute for the feature - it works very well no thanks to T-Mo but thanks to the small expert contractor that developed the code.
so for those who like the feature, we debloat, and enjoy life
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ha! well I understand the sentiment, but there are good reasons for slimming down the stock rom. I have been around here quite awhile and have never seen anyone succeed at graftin the T-mo Wifi Calling app into a full custom ROM. Neither have I ever seen a successful substitute for the feature - it works very well no thanks to T-Mo but thanks to the small expert contractor that developed the code.
so for those who like the feature, we debloat, and enjoy life
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I gotcha, I wasn't suggesting trying to get wifi calling working in another rom, Just that you would have to go without it if you flash one of the international roms...
I have found the google hangouts dialer to be a reliable substitute for wifi calling so It is an easy move for me to wander away from a t-moble rom.
I realize many have not had as much success with hangouts for various reasons but it works for me. Plus I really don't need it at all anyway.
and HERE it is...
OldeCrow said:
Roms and Kernels for any of the snapdragon models ( G900F/M/I/L/K/T/S/W8 ) should work on the t-mobile version, however only t-mobile based roms will have wifi calling so if you are addicted to wifi calling you will need to stick to t-mobile roms.
Also there isn't MM 6X bootloader or radio for your phone yet so the MM roms may not work I haven't tried one yet...
I've been running thunderbolt v2 for a week, very nice 5X N5 ported rom with lots of cool new features t-mobile is too cheap to enable.
the current version of thunderbolt is an MM rom so it may not work over the 5x bootloader and radio...
I also ran PopWiz Telstra v5.1 for nearly a month it's another great rom.
I recomend the kernels made for the roms too, the kernels for t-moble will break the camera and give you another problem to solve and there are several really nice kernels over in the other s5 thread anyway...
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hi? are you saying any tmobile galaxy phone will work with international roms of F, C, H and so on versions? I have been wondering why many tmobile sub forums are always quiet under development section
jazzdglass said:
hi? are you saying any tmobile galaxy phone will work with international roms of F, C, H and so on versions? I have been wondering why many tmobile sub forums are always quiet under development section
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Ya pretty much, G900F/M/I/L/K/T/S/W8 roms should work with only minor tinkering, most of the roms over in the GS5 development thread are based off of the g900f debbase from ALEXNDR so it is probably safer to say any g900f rom will work on most any other snapdragon s5.
Although I have to say I've been on our t-mobile MM rom, deodexed/rooted and I find it pretty much flawless so I haven't been sampling the other roms for a couple of weeks now...
Have u tried this one ? @OldeCrow
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2741302
There is specific warning, also it has bootloader, modem, modem lte.
DO THIS BEFORE INSTALLING THE ROM - ONLY FOR G900F:
This is only for G900F, if you do this on other S5, you might brick your device!
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Have u tried this one ? @OldeCrow
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2741302
There is specific warning, also it has bootloader, modem, modem lte.
DO THIS BEFORE INSTALLING THE ROM - ONLY FOR G900F:
This is only for G900F, if you do this on other S5, you might brick your device!
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You should be fine, the modem and boot-loader are separate and you couldn't flash them if you wanted to, they are not for our phone!
As long as you are already on our MM build Phoenix should install just fine. If you still haven't upgraded to MM officially MM roms might have trouble with the older radio and boot-loader.
The Phoenix kernel is one of the best kernels over there too.
I would take the customer.xml from your current MM CSC and place it in the zip for Phoenix before you flash it so you have the t-mobile apn info already in the rom when you flash it.
Yes I m currently on MM.
First tell me how to backup all, especially efs folder, my two phones got a problem coz of EFS , no network issue and changed many firmware but didnt get successful.
Anyways which software/app is best flashfire ? Or any other? Will custom twrp recovery do the job ?
And then please guide me to what I have to do first, for installing tht rom coz according to the OP in tht thread, my device will brick.
Thanks for replying
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Can i flash any tmobile ROM? like this one : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2682608
I recently flashed a MIUI ROM from our verizon thread and noticed it worked decently with either a tmobile sim or our own Verizon LTE.
I also recently flashed this T-mobile ROM :http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2292054
which was posted on the T-mobile thread but had our verizon kernal in the list of downloads, with success.
So my question is this: can i flash any Tmobile ROM as long as it doesn't include a kernal and radio and of course access the network settings to change it to LTE/CDMA.???
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Can i flash any tmobile ROM? like this one : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2682608
I recently flashed a MIUI ROM from our verizon thread and noticed it worked decently with either a tmobile sim or our own Verizon LTE.
I also recently flashed this T-mobile ROM :http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2292054
which was posted on the T-mobile thread but had our verizon kernal in the list of downloads, with success.
So my question is this: can i flash any Tmobile ROM as long as it doesn't include a kernal and radio and of course access the network settings to change it to LTE/CDMA.???
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Probably not. Most ROMs are tightly integrated with their kernel; if you flash just the ROM and not the kernel, lots of things will likely not work well.
I think you should make a little list of the ones you have success with though... [emoji1]
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orateam said:
Can i flash any tmobile ROM? like this one : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2682608
I recently flashed a MIUI ROM from our verizon thread and noticed it worked decently with either a tmobile sim or our own Verizon LTE.
I also recently flashed this T-mobile ROM :http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2292054
which was posted on the T-mobile thread but had our verizon kernal in the list of downloads, with success.
So my question is this: can i flash any Tmobile ROM as long as it doesn't include a kernal and radio and of course access the network settings to change it to LTE/CDMA.???
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You sure can. As log as you are on the MDK bootloader. Many of us have done it. Check this thread for some info
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2674846
willstilson said:
You sure can. As log as you are on the MDK bootloader. Many of us have done it. Check this thread for some info
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2674846
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Thanks! This proves we can use i9505 (generic S4) roms, but doesn't guarantee we can use Tmobile. But that may not matter. This means we can use the repository of I9505 ROMS which opens the door to a boatload of ROMS!!! WHOOOHOOO.
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Thanks! This proves we can use i9505 (generic S4) roms, but doesn't guarantee we can use Tmobile. But that may not matter. This means we can use the repository of I9505 ROMS which opens the door to a boatload of ROMS!!! WHOOOHOOO.
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Yeah, if you're one of the lucky few with the MDK bootloader or a developer edition phone.
But you still probably need to flash the entire ROM, including the kernel that supports it, assuming you're one of the lucky ones.
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Yeah, if you're one of the lucky few with the MDK bootloader or a developer edition phone.
But you still probably need to flash the entire ROM, including the kernel that supports it, assuming you're one of the lucky ones.
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I'm assuming most of us have the MDK bootloader. I'm running TW 4.4.2 now (goldeneye ROM). Works flawless. All the mods for i9505 work great too. We have some awesome themes out there in the i9505 themes thread. Verizon S4 keeps getting better and better.
So I was given an galaxy note i717 att version the other day and I'd like to use it on tmobile. Anyways I unlocked the phone and flashed tmobiles radios/modems on it but I want to use a different rom on the phone. Will I mess up the phone if I put a rom on it because i changed the network modems?, and if not which rom should I use with my att note i717 on tmobile?
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So I was given an galaxy note i717 att version the other day and I'd like to use it on tmobile. Anyways I unlocked the phone and flashed tmobiles radios/modems on it but I want to use a different rom on the phone. Will I mess up the phone if I put a rom on it because i changed the network modems?, and if not which rom should I use with my att note i717 on tmobile?
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You can run any rom you like if you've flashed the right version of recovery. There are several 4.4.2 roms available if you want to run the latest. Depending on your area, you may get as good a signal with an att modem. Personally I'm running the BlownFuze 4.4.2 with the UVLG3 modem, with no major issues.
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You can run any rom you like if you've flashed the right version of recovery. There are several 4.4.2 roms available if you want to run the latest. Depending on your area, you may get as good a signal with an att modem. Personally I'm running the BlownFuze 4.4.2 with the UVLG3 modem, with no major issues.
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Oh ok. Im kinda new to this. Im gonna go ahead and try that rom but say it doesnt work right and I want to change it. Do i just go back to CWM recovery and restore from my backup?
bluebeanie said:
Oh ok. Im kinda new to this. Im gonna go ahead and try that rom but say it doesnt work right and I want to change it. Do i just go back to CWM recovery and restore from my backup?
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Yes, make a CWM backup first in case something goes wrong. Also, make sure you're running CWM 6.0.4.3 before you flash a 4.4.2 rom
jman315 said:
Yes, make a CWM backup first in case something goes wrong. Also, make sure you're running CWM 6.0.4.3 before you flash a 4.4.2 rom
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Ok thanks. Im new to this so im not trying to bug you but that will restore my gapps and stuff right?
bluebeanie said:
Ok thanks. Im new to this so im not trying to bug you but that will restore my gapps and stuff right?
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Any JB and up roms, you will need to flash gapps again, but your apps will come back when you log in your gmail. Just read the OP for rom you use and there will be a link to appropriate gapps, though many are the same.
If your new though, I would advise you to read up a bit. Nobody is going to replace your phone if you dont understand and as far as I know, nobody has invented a time machine yet.
Welcome aboard, its fun, but nobody is responsible but you.
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captemo said:
Any JB and up roms, you will need to flash gapps again, but your apps will come back when you log in your gmail. Just read the OP for rom you use and there will be a link to appropriate gapps, though many are the same.
If your new though, I would advise you to read up a bit. Nobody is going to replace your phone if you dont understand and as far as I know, nobody has invented a time machine yet.
Welcome aboard, its fun, but nobody is responsible but you.
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Ok. Thanks. Im really liking the community here. I think im going to try and build my own rom for my note.
I never changed the radio for T-Mobile on my at&t note. It works fine. Good luck to ya and welcome to the community.
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Same here - never changed a radio. I have rooted and customized a few of i717 and the previous radio seems to either stay on or in some cases such as BeanStalk Rom it replaced my radio. Either way they are all on target with TMO.
Hi folks, I've beem looking forward to flash/use my AT&T galaxy note 2 on T-Mobile as well, can some one please share your experience and the links to flashing or unlocking it please?
Are there no roms for the NK1 4.4.2 build for verizon that aren't AOSP? I have been looking and haven't found any. I really do NOT like Verizon's stock rom and was hoping to find a rom I could flash on this phone. I just don't want to flash something that will brick my store bought phone.
Thanks
kclive said:
Are there no roms for the NK1 4.4.2 build for verizon that aren't AOSP? I have been looking and haven't found any. I really do NOT like Verizon's stock rom and was hoping to find a rom I could flash on this phone. I just don't want to flash something that will brick my store bought phone.
Thanks
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There is the lollipop 5.0.1 unofficial cm12 rom. I haven't tried it out yet due to some problems with my safestrap . But you should definitely check it out! and if you have moment, please check out my post i really need help! thanks droidusr2014.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s4/i9505-orig-develop/rom-cyanogenmod-12-t2943934?nocache=1
I have been told that CM won't work on retail versions of the phone. They will work on DEV Edition phones, but not ours. We need roms that are not AOSP roms. The only roms that work on retail versions of the phone run touchwiz.
Oh bummer at least I have root though. Anyway I guess I can use the hyperdrive or echo rom
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I will have to check those roms out as well. I really don't like the stock rom at all. Have you tried either of those two roms to make sure they work?
Echoe's S5 rom is pretty nice. Has working Ultra Power Saving Mode feature going for it. I had problems getting MMS to work perfectly on it however. Likely user error, I admit. Tried Hyperdrive out as well; no complaints there (just switch to Echoe for a while to try out UPSM)
I personally really like Eclipse rom for the AOSP experience I was ultimately after. Completely Google-fied the rom myself by installing just about every Google app available on the market :laugh:
You cant go wrong with Empty Galaxy vDecember, Eclipse or Echoe.
Now that we all have unlocked bootloaders with "developer edition conversion" on our Verizon note edge, we got root and everything ...But no roms or that good developer stuff I know there's people out there with the skills required to make this Phone great again...we just gotta find em...in the meantime though...post all the things you know are flash able on our notes, ROMs, kernels ?
you are right
That would be awesome if there was more development for it.
I flashed this a little while ago, it worked-ish, but I wasn't a big fan of it and went back to stock. Just note that *some* other ROMS *may* work
http://forum.xda-developers.com/not...t-n910t-tekxodus-n4-urv3-4-6-22-edge-t3141142
Disclaimer: I AM NOT SAYING YOU SHOULD TRY THIS, IF YOU BORK YOUR PHONE I CAN'T HELP YOU
edit: at least, I think it was that one... Dude has a lot of ROMS, but I remember it was tekxodus and a Note 4 port.
h00rj said:
I flashed this a little while ago, it worked-ish, but I wasn't a big fan of it and went back to stock. Just note that *some* other ROMS *may* work
http://forum.xda-developers.com/not...t-n910t-tekxodus-n4-urv3-4-6-22-edge-t3141142
Disclaimer: I AM NOT SAYING YOU SHOULD TRY THIS, IF YOU BORK YOUR PHONE I CAN'T HELP YOU
edit: at least, I think it was that one... Dude has a lot of ROMS, but I remember it was tekxodus and a Note 4 port.
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I just flashed that ROM...liked the concept but I honestly wish it didn't have all those extra things that ruin the stock look...like the notification bar and the super low dpi on the home screen, thanks man I'll be trying all sorts of Roms from other threads and update you guys on how it goes
I'm hoping some development happens on this phone too. So much potential for cool ROMs. Anyone want to start a bounty?
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I gave this a go but instead of using the Kernel supplied in the thread, I used the one from the verizon marshmallow unlock thread.
It booted (took a good 5mns to boot), has 4G, and I'm going through the setup right now.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-edge/general/dr-keton-m5-marshmallow-s7-note-5-t-t3422177
It's a N5/S7 port, so no Edge apps, but the S7 People/App Stripe is there
Edit: Fully booted and rooted. Working pretty good.
Edit again: It does have Edge Apps. The S7 Edge apps work
h00rj said:
I gave this a go but instead of using the Kernel supplied in the thread, I used the one from the verizon marshmallow unlock thread.
It booted (took a good 5mns to boot), has 4G, and I'm going through the setup right now.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-edge/general/dr-keton-m5-marshmallow-s7-note-5-t-t3422177
It's a N5/S7 port, so no Edge apps, but the S7 People/App Stripe is there
Edit: Fully booted and rooted. Working pretty good.
Edit again: It does have Edge Apps. The S7 Edge apps work
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tried flashing the ketan rom and got a nice ole bootloop that I'm still trying to fix...anyway to fix? no rom I try installing works after trying to flash the Ketan rom
h00rj said:
I gave this a go but instead of using the Kernel supplied in the thread, I used the one from the verizon marshmallow unlock thread.
It booted (took a good 5mns to boot), has 4G, and I'm going through the setup right now.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-edge/general/dr-keton-m5-marshmallow-s7-note-5-t-t3422177
It's a N5/S7 port, so no Edge apps, but the S7 People/App Stripe is there
Edit: Fully booted and rooted. Working pretty good.
Edit again: It does have Edge Apps. The S7 Edge apps work
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hey i flashed the KEtan rom and it works perfect , but no GSM support , did you get yours to work
right now it says imie and baseband unknown
help ? :laugh:
I'm looking to get started with porting Roms to this phone. I have thoroughly enjoyed the stock features, but I miss the ability to change to something else whenever I feel like it. I know that it may take me awhile but I'm going to give it a shot.
dtgo said:
hey i flashed the KEtan rom and it works perfect , but no GSM support , did you get yours to work
right now it says imie and baseband unknown
help ? :laugh:
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I ended up ditching it and going back to stock because of issues with connectivity. Never could get it to behave right.
Hey guys I just bought a verizon note edge. Did I hear that correctly?!! Unlocked Bootloader, and root? I really hope so. Please confirm, and a point in the right direction would be appreciated. Thank u.
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h00rj said:
I ended up ditching it and going back to stock because of issues with connectivity. Never could get it to behave right.
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did you get it working on GSM ? at least a little bit
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did you get it working on GSM ? at least a little bit
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Nope :/
Jeanboiiii said:
tried flashing the ketan rom and got a nice ole bootloop that I'm still trying to fix...anyway to fix? no rom I try installing works after trying to flash the Ketan rom
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reflash your stock tar in odin and go through the bootloader unlock again and try another that way. as long as you can get your phone into download mode it is never really hard bricked.... usually... sometimes....
Hey guys don't want to jump ahead of the gun on this one, but want to let you know I am downloading 4 marshmallow roms that should work on our devices, and tomorrow I am going to load them on my rom machine and see if I can decompile them and get them going for note edge using our boot.img and the custom kernel posted in the marshmallow unlock theead.
I don't promise anything, and I can't upload them when I'm done cause I haven't gotten permission from the original devs, I don't want to waste their time just in case it doesn't work, one of which is completely free of all touch wiz related material and has xposed running on the MM os. Pretty big deal considering how xposed likes to kill samsung devices running 6.0
More info tomorrow after I test it a bit, for now good night all.
I just picked up a mint condition Note Edge (915V). Id like to start working on a ROM for it, but it would be nice to have a base to work with. Anybody have a flashable stock Marshmallow (CPD1) ROM that's 100% untouched (deodexed preferred). Still has all its bloat.
I used to make a ROM this way for the Droid 3, but that was a little easier than it is now. Id like to help out the lacking development for the Note Edge.
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Now that we all have unlocked bootloaders with "developer edition conversion" on our Verizon note edge, we got root and everything ...But no roms or that good developer stuff I know there's people out there with the skills required to make this Phone great again...we just gotta find em...in the meantime though...post all the things you know are flash able on our notes, ROMs, kernels ?
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Anybody willing to test PAC ROM 6.0.1?
I have been making ROMs for the N915F and N915T, and, by God's grace, they have been working.
I do not own a N915V, so I need some testers, if anyone is willing. Here is a link to download PAC 6.0.1 made for CDMA phones:
https://www.mediafire.com/download/7he853zinf6x3f7
You may need a data fix zip from here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4/snapdragon-dev/marshmallow-6-0-1-ports-data-fixes-t3379978
You will need the unlocked bootloader.
I *think* you will need to be on a 5.1.1 bootloader and modem, but you can try on 6.0.1 also. You will need TWRP, preferably 3.0 and later, although cwm may work too, and this may or may not work. I am pretty sure it will boot, because of a tester I am working with, but the more testers the better. I need actual details, like what modem/bootloader you are using, if it did or did not boot, install, work, etc. Screenshots help me visualize what you are talking about. Etc.
If it works, we can make more ROMs.
I can't tonight, but maybe tomorrow. Still testing my next ROM version for my 915V
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Anybody willing to test PAC ROM 6.0.1?
I have been making ROMs for the N915F and N915T, and, by God's grace, they have been working.
I do not own a N915V, so I need some testers, if anyone is willing. Here is a link to download PAC 6.0.1 made for CDMA phones:
https://www.mediafire.com/download/7he853zinf6x3f7
You may need a data fix zip from here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4/snapdragon-dev/marshmallow-6-0-1-ports-data-fixes-t3379978
You will need the unlocked bootloader.
I *think* you will need to be on a 5.1.1 bootloader and modem, but you can try on 6.0.1 also. You will need TWRP, preferably 3.0 and later, although cwm may work too, and this may or may not work. I am pretty sure it will boot, because of a tester I am working with, but the more testers the better. I need actual details, like what modem/bootloader you are using, if it did or did not boot, install, work, etc. Screenshots help me visualize what you are talking about. Etc.
If it works, we can make more ROMs.
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chevycam94 said:
I can't tonight, but maybe tomorrow. Still testing my next ROM version for my 915V
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Did anything ever happen here? I would love this.
I just got this phone Monday for $100 and so far I'm liking it, but I'm tantalized by the custom ROMs I see available. There are a couple of performance issues I've noticed including the delay in the volume controls popping up, and the slow camera app. I'm curious if the custom ROMs perform better and which ones you all recommend. I have the Metro variant.
I had gotten one Sim unlocked and was wondering myself has lineage on it now
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I had gotten one Sim unlocked and was wondering myself has lineage on it now
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Did you get it with Lineage already installed or did you do it yourself? I haven't installed a custom rom since I had a Galaxy Nexus, so I'm curious how difficult it is now.
x_orange90_x said:
Did you get it with Lineage already installed or did you do it yourself? I haven't installed a custom rom since I had a Galaxy Nexus, so I'm curious how difficult it is now.
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Came installed
x_orange90_x said:
Did you get it with Lineage already installed or did you do it yourself? I haven't installed a custom rom since I had a Galaxy Nexus, so I'm curious how difficult it is now.
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It's a little more (a bit more) difficult to flash a rom if you're coming way from the nexus series.
We don't have fully functioning recoveries atm, so they all require a PC.
There's a mild issue with the regional variants when it comes to installing a custom rom. (The roms are based on the global firmware and our devices don't use global, so there's differences in system implementation that makes it difficult to get roms flashing.)