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i have the photon , but i really dont like the screen quality (sharpness and color wise)compared to my old epic. not trying to troll here, just to ask if anyone think it can be fixed with a software update or is it a hardware issue?
The general consensus is that's just how the phone is. However some lucky people don't seem to notice screens quality (or lack thereof).
Welcome to the PenTile display.
Just the way it is. For best results, try to hold the phone far away.
I think it's actually a pretty cool technology.
irev210 said:
Welcome to the PenTile display.
Just the way it is. For best results, try to hold the phone far away.
I think it's actually a pretty cool technology.
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can you please share with me whats so cool about this technology? thanks
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i have the photon , but i really dont like the screen quality (sharpness and color wise)compared to my old epic. not trying to troll here, just to ask if anyone think it can be fixed with a software update or is it a hardware issue?
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Coming from the Epic, who's Super AMOLED screen also uses a pentile subpixel arrangement also mind you, you shouldn't really be noticing a sharpness difference between them. But yes, any and literally all LCDs do look duller and more muted than the Super AMOLED. It's just a nature of the technology.
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can you please share with me whats so cool about this technology? thanks
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Well, I can say that, due to it's white subpixels, it is a brighter display that is much more viewable in sunlight. It is also much better on toast.
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I watch videos all the time on my phone and I don't like it. It is too grainy, the color is off, too much sharpness, black is too dark and any hint of light in the scene and its too bright. HD quality videos look pretty good but lower resolution videos just look bad.
I see the problem in dark scenes where there is very little light you can't differentiate any objects in the dark area. Its all a blur. In the same scene the face has little light on it but it will be over satuated. Its like someone is shining a flashlight in his face. If any of you watch Showtime's Dexter you will see what I mean as the show has a lot of scenes in dark warehouses.
Yes I think they can make it better with software. They can turn down the sharpness. They can allow a little light to be on during dark scene rather then let it be all black (total absence of light). They can try different color temperature because right now all the human skin looks too red to me. They can dial down the intensity of white on lighted scenes.
Just got home with my Photon, which I bought primarily because it's a world phone and specs looked pretty good. Gotta agree with OP, the display is piss poor. Just might return it for something else. Kinda mad I turned in my EVO. Overall I played $99. We'll see...sigh.
Fyahstarter said:
Just got home with my Photon, which I bought primarily because it's a world phone and specs looked pretty good. Gotta agree with OP, the display is piss poor. Just might return it for something else. Kinda mad I turned in my EVO. Overall I played $99. We'll see...sigh.
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First thing you need to do is turn the brightness all the way down and turn off the auto brightness too. The screen will look much better.
ericizzy1 said:
can you please share with me whats so cool about this technology? thanks
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Jump over here and do some reading:
http://pentileblog.com/
One thing that is kind of cool, is that the CEO actually replied to (and blogged about) an AndroidForums thread discussing the P4G screen. Spend some time reading that thread for even greater detail about the merits of the Pentile screen.
Granted, it's the CEO of Pentile, so obviously they have a bit of a bias... but she also offers fascinating technical insight behind the technology as well.
I'm very happy with the screen myself, very easy to read in sunlight especially but very bright in general (which i like). The colors were "different" compared to the evo and evo 3d I had prior but after a few hours, I started noticing more color and details in apps that I hadn't ever seen before. I feel it looks much better overall vs the evo and evo 3d. Yes, I do see the checkerboard when the display is off if I look at the right angle but I dont notice it when the screen is on.
This phone has so many pluses, and the screen is one of them to me.
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I'm very happy with the screen myself, very easy to read in sunlight especially but very bright in general (which i like). The colors were "different" compared to the evo and evo 3d I had prior but after a few hours, I started noticing more color and details in apps that I hadn't ever seen before. I feel it looks much better overall vs the evo and evo 3d. Yes, I do see the checkerboard when the display is off if I look at the right angle but I dont notice it when the screen is on.
This phone has so many pluses, and the screen is one of them to me.
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You are seriously making me think that something is wrong with my phone, man. Cuz if what I'm seeing on mine is consistent throughout, there's no way a person can think it looks good. Some of the pictures look like they are in 8-bit. I'm really disappointed.
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You are seriously making me think that something is wrong with my phone, man. Cuz if what I'm seeing on mine is consistent throughout, there's no way a person can think it looks good. Some of the pictures look like they are in 8-bit. I'm really disappointed.
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Yeah, i'd maybe compare it to the store display if possible because I think mine looks excellent, and the display in my local stores looks really good too. I usually keep my display cranked up pretty high, and it has much better blacks and white levels then i ever had on my evo or evo 3d.
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Yeah, i'd maybe compare it to the store display if possible because I think mine looks excellent, and the display in my local stores looks really good too. I usually keep my display cranked up pretty high, and it has much better blacks and white levels then i ever had on my evo or evo 3d.
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I played some Netflix movies and they looked really bad to a point where I'm like Motorola couldn't have released a multi-media phone with such piss poor video and picture quality. I'm taking back the phone tomorrow to switch it out.
Here's another question. I put in my sdcard from my EVO and none of the pictures fill the screen. I noticed the same thing on the carousel view in the FB integration. The pictures don't fill the screen. Any ideas?
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Here's another question. I put in my sdcard from my EVO and none of the pictures fill the screen. I noticed the same thing on the carousel view in the FB integration. The pictures don't fill the screen. Any ideas?
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How does it look if you use a different Gallery app like QuickPic?
I, for one like the screen. There is no "burn in" like the galaxy s phones and the Nexus S. I can see the pixel separation, but it doesn't bother me a bit. Maybe you guys need to quit making out with your screens.
I'm not looking for fantastic. I'm coming from the EVO which, even though washed out compared to a Super Amoled, looked fine to me. The problem appears that in areas of high contrast or in shadows, the blacks are too black so picture actually looks blotchy. Believe me when I tell you I'm not the overly picky type. But image quality is definitely a step down compared to my Evo.
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Jump over here and do some reading:
http://pentileblog.com/
Granted, it's the CEO of Pentile, so obviously they have a bit of a bias... but she also offers fascinating technical insight behind the technology as well.
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Nice explanation of PenTile. I also have no issues with the display and think it is quite good in comparison to my E4G. I wonder if the different perceptions are due to astigmatism. Last year I got lens implants that corrected most of my astigmatism (some remaining, but not much). Maybe people with a lot of uncorrected astigmatism are more sensitive to the display? Maybe it's the opposite and astigmatism makes the effect harder to see and I have just enough astigmatism left to make it not noticeable?
I thought the display was fine, and while I could see the screen door effect, only really noticed it while looking for it.
Then I installed a game where blue was a predominant color used in the background, Wisp Lite, currently featured on the Android Market. Anyone would immediately notice the screen door effect on the background, it was so obvious.
Mulling if this matters enough for me to consider returning it.
What do you keep your display brightness at?
I left mine on auto since I got it bit now just changed it to 100%. Im gonna see how much worse it is on the battery because the trade off might be worth it for how awesome it looks at full brightness.
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What do you keep your display brightness at?
I left mine on auto since I got it bit now just changed it to 100%. Im gonna see how much worse it is on the battery because the trade off might be worth it for how awesome it looks at full brightness.
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I gotta go full on bright at all times. Why buy a phone with an awesome screen and throttle the beauty of it. Plus somebody might be looking over your shoulder. HaHa!!
With both my Captivate and Infuse, I never used auto brightness. I always use 0% unless I'm outdoors, as these screens are really readable even in well lighted rooms.
I keep mine on 100 percent. I dont see the point of having such an amazing screen if i can't enjoy it at full capacity.....
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Today my first day with the phone I left it at half way.
I have the brightness all the way down and its still really bright!
I use auto but at night in bed even at lowest setting its still pretty bright so I use an app called screen filter and dims the screen even lower then samsungs lowest setting. I would think this would save on battery life as well if you were to use this app more often?
Auto. I think this phone tends to be on the brighter side compared to others when on auto. I'm not saying that as a bad thing though, just an observation.
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Auto. I think this phone tends to be on the brighter side compared to others when on auto. I'm not saying that as a bad thing though, just an observation.
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Probably due to the increased number of pixels/increased area. Even with the same output per pixel, the note will be brighter than say an infuse or a captivate because there are more pixels shining towards your eyes.
I keep mine below 10% unless I am in bright sunlight. The screen is easy to read and less brightness over such a large screen means far less power consumption. Just my humble two cents.
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I don't think that using the screen at less than 100% diminishes its beauty. Most times, for me at least, 100% is way too bright. Also, using the screen at 0% will show much better battery life. I notice huge drain when using my Infuse at 100% for any amount of time. I can literally watch my percentage drop as I catch up on XDA posts and facebook/twitter. The display is easily the biggest drain of all for any phone, and using it on 100% will drain your battery even quicker. Just don't complain about crappy battery life when it happens please.
If battery life was unlimited and not a factor would you use full brightness at all times?
No, as I said, the screen is too bright at times. Having it at 100% also heats up the phone more quickly.
I keep mine at 100 all the time for the same reason other posters have stated. Why take away from the main selling point of the phone (at least it is to me). I suppose I'm lucky in that I have an office job and spend a good deal of time at my desk during the day. I can always plug in for an hour or two if I need to, but so far with the Note I haven't needed to. No heat issues either.
Like most other things android, it always comes down to personal preference.
How is the text in full sunlight? This will be my work phone also and I need to be able to check e-mails in the sunlight.
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How is the text in full sunlight? This will be my work phone also and I need to be able to check e-mails in the sunlight.
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There is a fair amount of glare, of course, but I was able to easily read emails in direct sunlight. One of the first things I tried on Friday when I got it...
Thanks for the reply - this has to be a huge upgrade over my HTC Tilt 2. I have to either find shade or cover it up with my hand. Hopefully with the Note I will not have to put on my reading glasses to see.
10% indoor Auto outdoor
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I keep mine on 100 percent. I dont see the point of having such an amazing screen if i can't enjoy it at full capacity.....
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Enjoy while you can Ever heard of screen burn in? 100% brightness will only speed up the burn in. That's the same effect when you buy a Plasma TV and use the torch mode except AMOLED screens will burn in 10 times faster than Plasma screens.
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Enjoy while you can Ever heard of screen burn in? 100% brightness will only speed up the burn in. That's the same effect when you buy a Plasma TV and use the torch mode except AMOLED screens will burn in 10 times faster than Plasma screens.
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I still feel plasma > led > lcd
I loves my panasonic viera
Hi,
I've had my Xperia S for a few weeks now and I love it, almost everything about this phone suits me.
BUT there's something that's REALLY been bugging me from day 1.
Everybody says that the screen on the Xperia S is the best you can get at the moment; high PPI, quality, colour etc.
But the one thing I absolutely hate about this phone is the viewing angle. This phone in my opinion must have the WORST viewing angles I've ever seen. You look at the phone directly and it's awesome - beautiful colours, but as soon as you tilt it slightly away from the direct angle, the colours change dramatically. Blacks become grey, all the colours turn white, looking at it actually makes me nauseous and gives me a headache. Every other position except from the 'sweet spot' I don't feel comfortable with and was considering selling the phone just because of the screen as it's the most important for me.
This is worst, because I use my phone a lot in bed and viewing angles really matter. I'm so used to seeing AMOLED, IPS and LCD (with GOOD viewing angle) screens, that using this phone makes me uncomfortable (dizzy) sometimes, but I've gotten used to it now, so I'm unsure if I should sell.
Does anybody else feel the same?
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Hi,
I've had my Xperia S for a few weeks now and I love it, almost everything about this phone suits me.
BUT there's something that's REALLY been bugging me from day 1.
Everybody says that the screen on the Xperia S is the best you can get at the moment; high PPI, quality, colour etc.
But the one thing I absolutely hate about this phone is the viewing angle. This phone in my opinion must have the WORST viewing angles I've ever seen. You look at the phone directly and it's awesome - beautiful colours, but as soon as you tilt it slightly away from the direct angle, the colours change dramatically. Blacks become grey, all the colours turn white, looking at it actually makes me nauseous and gives me a headache. Every other position except from the 'sweet spot' I don't feel comfortable with and was considering selling the phone just because of the screen as it's the most important for me.
This is worst, because I use my phone a lot in bed and viewing angles really matter. I'm so used to seeing AMOLED, IPS and LCD (with GOOD viewing angle) screens, that using this phone makes me uncomfortable (dizzy) sometimes, but I've gotten used to it now, so I'm unsure if I should sell.
Does anybody else feel the same?
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that is because you are accustomed to AMOLED, i feel the exact opposite
I actually prefer to view it slightly off centre, images / video look over contrasted to me particularly with the mobile bravia engine enabled.
I find the image also looks more uniform if you view it slightly off centre.
Either there is something wrong with your phone or your another one of these fussy sods.
I can look at my phone from an angle and its fine, but why the hell would you use your phone at an angle anyway!
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Either there is something wrong with your phone or your another one of these fussy sods.
I can look at my phone from an angle and its fine, but why the hell would you use your phone at an angle anyway!
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Call me fussy if you want. It seems you have never been annoyed or frustrated at something you bought in your life. Good job *thumbs up*!
Testing using a image of a gradient as an example. I went on Google and searched for 'blue', a few images down there is a gradient picture (attached). Display it on your phone, and tilt it any angle until the bright middle section completely disappears, for me a left/right tilt is about 20 degrees until it's significantly noticable and at 45 degrees becomes a solid colour and I can't see the middle bit anymore. This isn't apparent with any other phone I've had.
As I said, I like to use my phone in bed and sometimes it's not possible/comfortable to constantly hold the phone at the right angle.
I have to agree. The viewing angles are bad. It has about the same viewing angels as most laptops. I don't know how it is in comparison with other lcd phones since I used an amoled phone before.
And yes I am really fussy about most things. I can find faults with every phone but I can live with it.
But if you done your homework you would know that an LCD screen has poor viewing angles compared to a AMOLED or Super AMOLED screen.
Maybe before owning the phone you should have experimented with just how good/bad the viewing angles were by trying one in a shop before committing.
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But if you done your homework you would know that an LCD screen has poor viewing angles compared to a AMOLED or Super AMOLED screen.
Maybe before owning the phone you should have experimented with just how good/bad the viewing angles were by trying one in a shop before committing.
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I know that LCD is going to have a bad viewing angle compared to an AMOLED, everybody knows this. But I've owned a lot of phones with LCD screens in the past before, but none of them have had such a poor viewing angle as this one.
Try that gradient test with any other LCD screen you have, I'm sure the viewing angle would be better than the one on the Xperia.
In hindsight, testing the phone in a shop would have been best, but when you're that excited to get a new phone, buying online before release is what a lot of people would have done.
I dont see what the issue is. Lcd always has a more limited viewing angle.
My XperiaS is fine for me. My eyes are straight ;-)
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I just love how you had to go hunt down an image to show the problem.
While watching a video or looking about the net or even looking at pictures on your phone there is no issue when looking at the screen from an angle, witch is what I'm doing now. All the colours look fine and I can see what's on the screen fine as well.
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willww said:
Hi,
I've had my Xperia S for a few weeks now and I love it, almost everything about this phone suits me.
BUT there's something that's REALLY been bugging me from day 1.
Everybody says that the screen on the Xperia S is the best you can get at the moment; high PPI, quality, colour etc.
But the one thing I absolutely hate about this phone is the viewing angle. This phone in my opinion must have the WORST viewing angles I've ever seen. You look at the phone directly and it's awesome - beautiful colours, but as soon as you tilt it slightly away from the direct angle, the colours change dramatically. Blacks become grey, all the colours turn white, looking at it actually makes me nauseous and gives me a headache. Every other position except from the 'sweet spot' I don't feel comfortable with and was considering selling the phone just because of the screen as it's the most important for me.
This is worst, because I use my phone a lot in bed and viewing angles really matter. I'm so used to seeing AMOLED, IPS and LCD (with GOOD viewing angle) screens, that using this phone makes me uncomfortable (dizzy) sometimes, but I've gotten used to it now, so I'm unsure if I should sell.
Does anybody else feel the same?
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Who cares? I never and don't want to look at the screen from the side
I love it, and i never used a Amoled phone so 4 me it's ok like the way it is
Had them all, iPhone,HTC,SGN,and now my EPS and it's by far the best yet, as for using it at an angle.... why?
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A phone with an angle might be even better,since someone is less likely to be able to read or see what you do if he is not supposed to do so.
I like the screen a lot,it looks great,it performs well in bright light and the angles are fine as well. I used an OG Droid before,the XPS's display is so much better.
If you don't like it,go and exchange the phone.
Tried it in my car to use the sat nav, the screen is wonderful, in sunlight the screen is still as clear as it normally is which is crystal!! Love the screen. Better then other high powered phones out there
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Tried it in my car to use the sat nav, the screen is wonderful, in sunlight the screen is still as clear as it normally is which is crystal!! Love the screen. Better then other high powered phones out there
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Agree....
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Why would you want to look at the screen from a angle there is absolutely no reason for it
My thoughts also,I use my phone in bed every night, but hold it straight with on prob what so never!
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I should have pictured that people who obviously own the phone are going to defend it.
From most of the replies, people think I use my phone at an angle. This isn't the case. The problem I have is that the viewing angles are poor, which leads to colours being easily shifted and this can become quite distracting especially on a mobile where it's constantly being moved/tilted. Like a shade of grey will change from dark to light with just a slight movement, if you can't notice this, get your eyes checked, if you don't care, I don't mind.
If it's all good for you that's fine. I was only trying to see who had the same mindset as I do. I can gather that a lot of you haven't seen a quality screen before. Resolution isn't everything.
i come from a galaxy s. Amoled is better in every way more vibrant colours, brighter,better viewing angles, etc. Not mentioning xperia s's resolution, the plus side on the xperia s is having a more natural colour, galaxy s is a little yellow while xperia s shows real colours. For the viewing angles, yeah it is a little bothersome even a 10 degree tilt will make it slightly blurry, if it had a 20 degree tilt viewing angle that would be fine that would be great but all in all i can live with it. At least on the train you will have privacy
I've come from Samsung Galaxy nexus, and I have to say it's better, colours are more natural it just pops, wife has iPhone4 and the screen on that looks pants compared to the experia s.
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Was wondering if this tab is really usable for extended web surfing, email etc. in the bright sunshine like around a pool? I have read all the reviews that say stuff like, "better, certainly readable, best I have seen, brightness level makes it supposed to be....", but that does not mean that it is really comfortable to use for an extended time in the sun. What's your experience with your tab? Thanks!
The is quite reflective. The brightness is great but the screen is so reflective that sometimes visibility suffers/useless
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Well I guess the fact that no one is coming here to brag about the sunlight readability/useability of this tablet says a lot. Must not be very good. To bad!
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Well I guess the fact that no one is coming here to brag about the sunlight readability/useability of this tablet says a lot. Must not be very good. To bad!
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Well yeah admitted sunlight legibility (and i mean direct sunlight at noon time) is much not so good, otherwise the display is fine since I'm not always using at noontime outside (that would be really hot and burn my skin, lol)
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I use my tablet in direct sunlight in Florida almost every day. I am still squeezing the last drops out of my Notion Ink Adam if you can believe it! Old tech Pixel Qi screens still rule in the sun. Some tab manufacturer needs to understand that these things are not all used by some kid in his basement playing games. The cheapest sailboat depth recorder screen can be read in the sunlight. This can't be rocket science.
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I use my tablet in direct sunlight in Florida almost every day. I am still squeezing the last drops out of my Notion Ink Adam if you can believe it! Old tech Pixel Qi screens still rule in the sun. Some tab manufacturer needs to understand that these things are not all used by some kid in his basement playing games. The cheapest sailboat depth recorder screen can be read in the sunlight. This can't be rocket science.
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Well yeah indeed they are very legible in the sun. If it's not noon light i guess it's not a problem. The screen reflectivity is what I think would bother you.
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You do realize that many of us simply have yet to use our Z3TC's for an extended period of time in direct sunlight and/or have little to add to the reviews you have read and/or are not sure how high your standards are? The screen on this thing is really bright and you could probably buy an anti-reflective screen protector if needed.
Hello, i am a bit sensitive to amoled pwm flicker on a low brightness. How bad is it on the Mi A3 screen? Is there a workaround (e.g. DC dimming) for that issue? I hope that device's screen would be suitable for reading.
Sorry, what is pwm
google it bro, a method to control screen brightness via pulse-width modulation
Reading on this screen is like stabbing with hot wire in your eye. No joking. Does this screen have PWM? I thought the eye strain comes from the low resolution + pentile matrix.
Dont buy this phone, I have massive eye strain since I bought it. My eyes are red in the evening and itching.
I own 2 Samsung amoled tablets, zero eye strain after reading all night long. With this Mi A3, eye problems start the minute I use it.
peterf81 said:
Reading on this screen is like stabbing with hot wire in your eye. No joking. Does this screen have PWM? I thought the eye strain comes from the low resolution + pentile matrix.
Dont buy this phone, I have massive eye strain since I bought it. My eyes are red in the evening and itching.
I own 2 Samsung amoled tablets, zero eye strain after reading all night long. With this Mi A3, eye problems start the minute I use it.
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Do you notice the eye strain with brightness at 100%?
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Do you notice the eye strain with brightness at 100%?
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I don't know, the eye strain is accumulative I think, you get some tolerance after I while, but when you overdo it, then it gets triggered even after 10 seconds of looking at that phone. Now my eyes are so messed up, that I'am not touching that phone again, only when I receive a call. This phone has to go away ASAP, and I was so satisfied with my MI A1, that I did not except this from Xiaomi.
Maybe Xiaomi will do a software update like they did for the Mi9.
https://www.notebookcheck.net/Xiaomi-has-ditched-PWM-on-the-Mi-9.417484.0.html
In the reviews it was not mentioned to be PWM. This should be always specified.
It is a Samsung screen.
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Reading on this screen is like stabbing with hot wire in your eye. No joking. Does this screen have PWM? I thought the eye strain comes from the low resolution + pentile matrix.
Dont buy this phone, I have massive eye strain since I bought it. My eyes are red in the evening and itching.
I own 2 Samsung amoled tablets, zero eye strain after reading all night long. With this Mi A3, eye problems start the minute I use it.
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Let's hope with Android 10 they switch to DC.
peterf81 said:
I don't know, the eye strain is accumulative I think, you get some tolerance after I while, but when you overdo it, then it gets triggered even after 10 seconds of looking at that phone. Now my eyes are so messed up, that I'am not touching that phone again, only when I receive a call. This phone has to go away ASAP, and I was so satisfied with my MI A1, that I did not except this from Xiaomi.
Maybe Xiaomi will do a software update like they did for the Mi9.
https://www.notebookcheck.net/Xiaomi-has-ditched-PWM-on-the-Mi-9.417484.0.html
In the reviews it was not mentioned to be PWM. This should be always specified.
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PWM is widely used as it retains color accuracy with lower brightness. Even some mid-high end Samsung LCD TVs use it. DC switching is more tricky, I don't think that Xiaomi will do any major change for Mi Ax line (just see the screwed up fastboot for example - they did not fix it for years and even managed to cripple it further).
I am extremely sensitive to flickering, but I do not see anything wrong with A3 related to flicker. 720 pentile matrix is another story
☡☡☡???I have to warn you of this device, my eye is now in pain and swollen. I am not joking. This sh1t can make you literally blind!!! Wtf are they selling to us. I can imagine some poor bstrd who buys this crap and develops eye problems.???☡☡☡
I borrowed it to another person, after 5 minuted of use she had sore and watery eyes, stabbing like pain. If you are a sensitive person beware ☠☠☠
Drama much?
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☡☡☡???I have to warn you of this device, my eye is now in pain and swollen. I am not joking. This sh1t can make you literally blind!!! Wtf are they selling to us. I can imagine some poor bstrd who buys this crap and develops eye problems.???☡☡☡
I borrowed it to another person, after 5 minuted of use she had sore and watery eyes, stabbing like pain. If you are a sensitive person beware
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Drama much?
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☡☡☡I have to warn you of this device, my eye is now in pain and swollen. I am not joking. This sh1t can make you literally blind!!! Wtf are they selling to us. I can imagine some poor bstrd who buys this crap and develops eye problems.???☡☡☡
I borrowed it to another person, after 5 minuted of use she had sore and watery eyes, stabbing like pain. If you are a sensitive person beware
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Nope, I am tolerant to all kind of bullsh1t, but what's too much is too much ... this can really damage your eyes. And all the reviews were like "yeah display is bad, but give this device at least chance". Yes, I gave it a chance, and now it is my turn to report my experience. But I really could give a **** about reporting experience, but I want to WARN pple with sensitive eyes, because a dangerous line has been crossed here.
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Then return your phone and stop whining.
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debido666 said:
Drama much?
Nope, I am tolerant to all kind of bullsh1t, but what's too much is too much ... this can really damage your eyes. And all the review were like "yeah display is bad bud give this device at least chance". Yes, I gave it a chance, and now it is my turn to report my experience. But I really could give a **** about reporting experience, but I want to WARN pple with sensitive eyes, because a dangerous line has been crossed here.
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debido666 said:
Then return your phone and stop whining.
This is not about my phone, I will deal with that. This is about saving someone's vision, avoiding health problems with eyes. I guarantee you soon other ppl will report similiar experience.
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I̶'̶m̶ ̶9̶9̶%̶ ̶s̶u̶r̶e̶ ̶t̶h̶a̶t̶ ̶y̶o̶u̶r̶ ̶p̶r̶o̶b̶l̶e̶m̶s̶ ̶h̶a̶v̶e̶ ̶n̶o̶t̶h̶i̶n̶g̶ ̶t̶o̶ ̶d̶o̶ ̶w̶i̶t̶h̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶P̶W̶M̶.̶ Actually it might the PWM (see post #19 to fix it) Also you might be more sensitive to lower contrast/less sharp edges. Try to increase the brightness and use "dark theme" whenever available. They are easier on eyes. "High contrast" option in accessibility settings might be helpful as well. And last but not least, get your vision professionally checked, you may have more serious underlying problem which is "only" being exposed by this phone's screen.
_mysiak_ said:
I'm 99% sure that your problems have nothing to do with the PWM. I suspect that you are more sensitive to lower contrast/less sharp edges. Try to increase the brightness and use "dark theme" whenever available. They are easier on eyes. "High contrast" option in accessibility settings might be helpful as well. And last but not least, get your vision professionally checked, you may have more serious underlying problem which is "only" being exposed by this phone's screen.
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I'd ask him to go see a therapist as well, honestly. Seems like he has more than just vision issues.
bibekmufc said:
I'd ask him to go see a therapist as well, honestly. Seems like he has more than just vision issues.
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I didn't mean it as an insult, I am serious. Healthy eyes (or with right corrective glasses) should not have such serious problems with low res screens. HD vs FHD difference is certainly visible and small details (tiny text) can be harder or even impossible to read on HD, but for "normally" sized text it should be more or less equal. HD AMOLED resembles paper ink with less sharp contours, so it's mostly a matter of "getting used to" than a real problem. This being said, I still wish it had FHD AMOLED
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I didn't mean it as an insult, I am serious. Healthy eyes (or with right corrective glasses) should not have such serious problems with low res screens. HD vs FHD difference is certainly visible and small details (tiny text) can be harder or even impossible to read on HD, but for "normally" sized text it should be more or less equal. HD AMOLED resembles paper ink with less sharp contours, so it's mostly a matter of "getting used to" than a real problem. This being said, I still wish it had FHD AMOLED
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I for one meant it because he's on every thread whining and moaning about it. It's getting annoying at this point.
Btw. those who believe that they are sensitive to PWM of A3 (every person has different threshold) - try using the device at 100% brightness for a while. At 100% there is no PWM involved.
This might be helpful as well, not only for Mi A3, but many other AMOLED phones https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.js.oledsaver
Edit: this app definitely works, no flickering and you can dim your screen to basically any level you want. Highly recommended! Just set all the permissions, "basic physical brightness" to a safe value of 255 and you are good to go.
Its been 1 month and i don't have any eye strain, don't don't really do extensive reading on my phone but ya i do read stuff on it like articles, so not that big of a issue for me