[Q] Experienced N00b. Unanswered root questions. - Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I have read through posts on this and MANY other forums regarding rooting my TB. The one concern I haven't gotten a SOLID answer on is what EXACTLY I will lose from my current stock TB. What I need to understand is what to backup before hand with the understanding that I am not rooted so backing up anything is limited.
Do I need to backup my contacts? Ringtones? Purchased apps? Emails? Pictures?
Will my purchased apps still be "purchased" and I just redownload?
Once I have completed the root process as described in:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=996616
Is there a ROM that is basically the stock Thunderbolt with the BLOATware removed?
If this is some highly redundant question and I have been too stupid to find the answer, please feel free to slap me.
Thanks for answers or derision,
Birdson

birdson said:
I have read through posts on this and MANY other forums regarding rooting my TB. The one concern I haven't gotten a SOLID answer on is what EXACTLY I will lose from my current stock TB. What I need to understand is what to backup before hand with the understanding that I am not rooted so backing up anything is limited.
Do I need to backup my contacts? Ringtones? Purchased apps? Emails? Pictures?
Will my purchased apps still be "purchased" and I just redownload?
Once I have completed the root process as described in:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=996616
Is there a ROM that is basically the stock Thunderbolt with the BLOATware removed?
If this is some highly redundant question and I have been too stupid to find the answer, please feel free to slap me.
Thanks for answers or derision,
Birdson
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There are quite a few ROMS that are basically stock just with the bloatware removed. Most of them will say stock. Contacts are for the most part anymore backed up on the Google servers if you are signed up. If you have contacts stored on your phone save them anyway to be safe. Pictures are stored on your SD card by default so if you have one they should be good. Emails are stored over the server and will come back when you log.in. Purchased apps will always show as purchased in the market. Just need to redownload. You are going to gain a lot of speed and memory from removing the bloated stock Rom. Usually fixes random freezing and reboots also.

birdson said:
I have read through posts on this and MANY other forums regarding rooting my TB. The one concern I haven't gotten a SOLID answer on is what EXACTLY I will lose from my current stock TB. What I need to understand is what to backup before hand with the understanding that I am not rooted so backing up anything is limited.
Do I need to backup my contacts? Ringtones? Purchased apps? Emails? Pictures?
Will my purchased apps still be "purchased" and I just redownload?
Once I have completed the root process as described in:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=996616
Is there a ROM that is basically the stock Thunderbolt with the BLOATware removed?
If this is some highly redundant question and I have been too stupid to find the answer, please feel free to slap me.
Thanks for answers or derision,
Birdson
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SLAP!!!
Seriously though. After you root, make a stock backup in Clockwork recovery. Ringtones, pics, etc are all on your SD Card so you don't need yo worry about them. And as long as you ONLY use a debloated stock ROM with VW framework your purchased apps will be available for redownload.
Jcase has a fully rooted debloat ROM of the latest FROYO leak.
Enjoy!!!
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DroidTh3ory said:
SLAP!!!
Seriously though. After you root, make a stock backup in Clockwork recovery. Ringtones, pics, etc are all on your SD Card so you don't need yo worry about them. And as long as you ONLY use a debloated stock ROM with VW framework your purchased apps will be available for redownload.
Jcase has a fully rooted debloat ROM of the latest FROYO leak.
Enjoy!!!
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Umm, you don't have to use a stock rom for redownload, you can redownload your purchased apparently on any rom.
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Jazi said:
Umm, you don't have to use a stock rom for redownload, you can redownload your purchased apparently on any rom.
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Not if the Verizon goodies have been stripped out. I used BitBop with all the Stock debloats... When I jumped to Tesla Coil... No sir. Told me it was Verizon customers. Lol.
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Please read the entire rom thread before flashing. You will learn from the experiences of others, what to expect, bugs, etc. That way you don't look like an idiot by asking a question that has been answered a dozen times
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DroidTh3ory said:
Not if the Verizon goodies have been stripped out. I used BitBop with all the Stock debloats... When I jumped to Tesla Coil... No sir. Told me it was Verizon customers. Lol.
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I can download anything I have already purchased on any Rom, Das Bamf, tesla coil, CM7. I can even download my Droid X apps if I install the X market on my phone. The market you have installed is for a particular phone and only apps for that phone or universal apps will show up, if its not letting you download an app you bought on your TB then you have the wrong market, I didn't have that problem with tesla coil though. Any universal apps will be able to be downloaded from any phone as long as your logged in (but may quit working if you log into another phone)

eraursls1984 said:
I can download anything I have already purchased on any Rom, Das Bamf, tesla coil, CM7. I can even download my Droid X apps if I install the X market on my phone. The market you have installed is for a particular phone and only apps for that phone or universal apps will show up, if its not letting you download an app you bought on your TB then you have the wrong market, I didn't have that problem with tesla coil though. Any universal apps will be able to be downloaded from any phone as long as your logged in (but may quit working if you log into another phone)
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I was reffering to apps purchased from Verizon VCast... Not Market purchases.
Not sure what the OP meant now.
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Successful ROOT! Thanks for the answers. Now to get a ROM Manager... and no sleep... Let the fun begin.

birdson said:
Successful ROOT! Thanks for the answers. Now to get a ROM Manager... and no sleep... Let the fun begin.
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Its on now... Glad to hear it. FYI, Rom Manager is good for ONE thing... Flashing Clockwork.
Download your ROMs and goodies from XDA, and ONLY flash in Clockwork Recovery.
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DroidTh3ory said:
Its on now... Glad to hear it. FYI, Rom Manager is good for ONE thing... Flashing Clockwork.
Download your ROMs and goodies from XDA, and ONLY flash in Clockwork Recovery.
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Follow this and you'll be less likely to get a bad download and have a Rom act up (other than known bugs) I suggest try out the Das Bamf roms, I'm running the stripped version and its the best I have found.

mmm good ol rom mangler.

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Getting my first andriod phone- one question

My Galaxy s2 arrives Monday. Coming from a blackberry curve 8900 haha
I am definitely a noob to the whole rooting and flashing or whatever.
I had a one question that i hope someone can answer.
1) So i know the phone comes loaded with a bunch of bloatware from AT&T, and comes running all kinds of applications and processes that eats the battery, and i was wondering if there was a way to completely remove all of that stuff? I don't have the phone yet, but i think i want to keep the TouchWiz 4.0. (or what are your thoughts on TouchWiz?- should i keep or not)
I would like to have a clean install of Gingerbread with TouchWiz 4.0(maybe) minus all of the AT&T crap. Just a basic fresh "clean" install.
I don't think i want to run CM7 or some other ROM.. i think i just want to stick with the original stock android release since its my first android phone.
can someone give me some advice or lead me into the right direction with a thread link?
I really would appreciate your help and advice.
Root it get titanium backup from the market. It will let you freeze apps without removing them. They won't start up or be in your app drawer, but you can thaw them if you change your mind.
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shadow65781 said:
Root it get titanium backup from the market. It will let you freeze apps without removing them. They won't start up or be in your app drawer, but you can thaw them if you change your mind.
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what will this do to my phone if i do this method?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1286432
If I understand correct. It will do What you want. Just read the thread and understand exactly how and what it does.
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Ok, you need to play with the phone without messing with it. You really should get used to the phone first because you don't know what you want or what you like.
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I understand. I do however know that i want to get rid of the AT&T bloatware and remove all those services that eat up battery.
To be honost the bloatware on the sgs2 isn't bad at all man. I've rooted mine and i'm still running the stock rom with entropy's kernel overclocked at 1.4ghz and undervolted -25mV. I'm getting 15-20hrs of batt. life with medium usage.
Also, half the bloatware can be uninstalled traditionally. For whatever reason they were nice enough to let us remove some of it which is good for people like you and I.
you will be pleasantly surprised with the battery life on this phone even with all the "bloatware" that is supposedly eating away at resources and battery, this is more hype than reality. And titanium backup is not the holy grail that some people say it is... And now Samsung let's you build folders where you can hide away those apps. Also check out launcher pro to completely hide them. What ever you do, give yourself some time with this phone before you do anything.

Any stock roms available?

I downloaded FreeGee and would like to uninstall it once the Jelly Bean update comes out due to lack of dev support, but I have discovered that there is no easy way to uninstall it unless I flash a stock rom back onto my phone (AT&T LG Optimus G). I cannot find any stock roms for the AT&T version, so I was wondering:
1) Are there any stock roms available for the AT&T LG Optimus G?
2) Does it matter if I use a stock rom from rogers or will that also mess up the updates?
3) If there are no stock roms available, does anybody know how to uninstall FreeGee?
Thanks.
You didn't see the stock ROM in the development section? Also that's why its good to make a backup of the stock rom before flashing any ROM.
Here is the stock ROM.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1984545
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How do you flash it onto your phone?
903tex said:
You didn't see the stock ROM in the development section? Also that's why its good to make a backup of the stock rom before flashing any ROM.
Here is the stock ROM.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1984545
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I have the backups saved but I'm unsure of which one to flash and how to go about doing it.
Short answer
Wipe cache
Wipe dalvik cache
Go to backup/restore
And restore your backup
But long answer is read up so you know what you doing
http://android.sc/backup-and-restore-your-android-device-clockworkmod-recovery/
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MD5 mismatch
903tex said:
Short answer
Wipe cache
Wipe dalvik cache
Go to backup/restore
And restore your backup
But long answer is read up so you know what you doing
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I got md5 mismatch when I tried to restore, so how would I go about flashing the stock rom?
... Lack of dev support? Really?
Ecf17 said:
I got md5 mismatch when I tried to restore, so how would I go about flashing the stock rom?
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Its all in the link I posted in my first post. Really man you should have read up more than just jump straight out the gate!
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Murasakiii said:
... Lack of dev support? Really?
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I guess it all depends on how many developers you consider constitutes a "lack of" and how many = "good" support. Right now we know of three that have actually put something out, there are others working on stuff behind the scenes but how many remains to be seen. I have faith the support will come; however, if you were to survey people today, I'm reasonably certain most would call this a lack of support. Good things come to those who wait.
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Jank4AU said:
I guess it all depends on how many developers you consider constitutes a "lack of" and how many = "good" support. Right now we know of three that have actually put something out, there are others working on stuff behind the scenes but how many remains to be seen. I have faith the support will come; however, if you were to survey people today, I'm reasonably certain most would call this a lack of support. Good things come to those who wait.
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Indeed, common sense really. 1 rom in the dev section = lack of dev support. if a person can't see that, then they lack common sense.
ECF17. Ill answer your question. I see many comments above but no real answer.
There is not a stock Rom you can flash. the only Rom available is heavily modified.
What I did is went back to stock. Root, then unlock the bootloader, and deleted the apps I don't use. So I still have a ODEX Rom. Installed WiFi tether, Rom toolbox lets you easily remove the apps that you dont want (be careful) and also allows you to block ads.
Battery life is amazing. I unplugged at 6:30am and its 3:35 now and I'm at 67% and I've send over 20 emails today, dozens of text and over 1 hour screen on time.
I found that stock ODEX and debloated is the way to go. My sync is on. Facebook,gmail, box,dropbox.
The md5 mismatch was an issue I had also. The recovery that comes with the freegee. Unlock is flaky like that
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HTCMode = SMiShing app

Hey all,
There's been quite a few reports of people getting duplicate SMSes in the ViperDNA ROM thread. I think I have, unfortunately, found the cause. The other day, I got a SMS from someone not on my contact list/nor anyone I recognized at all. It was like spam email, but from SMS with a link to some site to boot. I brushed it off and just deleted the message. I was reading Android Police's new article on Android anti-virus apps. I was surprised to see my $15 Kaspersky app doing so poorly, so I uninstalled it and installed the #1 rated TrustGo. I did a scan and it found a "High Risk" threat in HTCMode. I followed the link provided by the app and, sure enough, Google has acknowledged the vulnerablility.
This vulnerability is being kept very close to Google's chest, so you don't find much about it doing a search for it. It certainly isn't getting a whole lot of press, but it's gotten some.
I tried to delete the app via TrustGo, but it failed. So went into Titanium Backup and froze the app and then was able to uninstall it. I've rebooted a couple times since uninstall and there doesn't seem to be any repercussions from getting rid of it. I highly recommend you do the same.
Just a heads-up. Protect your shiny DNA and your personal info/data,
Doc
docnok63 said:
Hey all,
There's been quite a few reports of people getting duplicate SMSes in the ViperDNA ROM thread. I think I have, unfortunately, found the cause. The other day, I got a SMS from someone not on my contact list/nor anyone I recognized at all. It was like spam email, but from SMS with a link to some site to boot. I brushed it off and just deleted the message. I was reading Android Police's new article on Android anti-virus apps. I was surprised to see my $15 Kaspersky app doing so poorly, so I uninstalled it and installed the #1 rated TrustGo. I did a scan and it found a "High Risk" threat in HTCMode. I followed the link provided by the app and, sure enough, Google has acknowledged the vulnerablility.
This vulnerability is being kept very close to Google's chest, so you don't find much about it doing a search for it. It certainly isn't getting a whole lot of press, but it's gotten some.
I tried to delete the app via TrustGo, but it failed. So went into Titanium Backup and froze the app and then was able to uninstall it. I've rebooted a couple times since uninstall and there doesn't seem to be any repercussions from getting rid of it. I highly recommend you do the same.
Just a heads-up. Protect your shiny DNA and your personal info/data,
Doc
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Thanks for the heads up! I wonder why HTC is packing this junk in with their software.
darkace said:
Thanks for the heads up! I wonder why HTC is packing this junk in with their software.
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Perhaps HTC has nothing to do with this software and (as if they care) the developers are trademark infringing when they use it in the app. They merely use the HTC name to legitimize their software and make you think it should be on your phone (some Sense software.) I'm sure on the S3 it's called SamsungMode or TouchMode and tries to make it look like it's part of TouchWiz.
If HTC did create this software, then the SMiShers have just found a way to exploit a vulnerability in the software as they did with other brands. As the video and write-up details, this is not HTC-specific; but Android-wide.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gLujaf0Y4-A
I can not find the HTC Mode.apk on my DNA at all. Not with TB or root file explorer. I am s-off, Viper1.1.3, beat mode kernel and costum recovery.
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Thanks for the info. I wasn't aware of trustgo being rated #1.
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johnwaug said:
I can not find the HTC Mode.apk on my DNA at all. Not with TB or root file explorer. I am s-off, Viper1.1.3, beat mode kernel and costum recovery.
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It might not be on your phone. It's in system/app if it is.
hurtfuljeep said:
Thanks for the info. I wasn't aware of trustgo being rated #1.
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Neither was I until yesterday and I was quite pissed a free app outperformed one I paid $15 for. When it found the vulnerability my anger turned to humility and concern.
All it does is allows apps to send u fake spam texts. I get that type of junk anyways without this apps help.
On the DNA I think its the HTCModeClient.apk. I'm gonna remove it on my Rom today and see if my text work normal.
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MicroMod777 said:
All it does is allows apps to send u fake spam texts. I get that type of junk anyways without this apps help.
On the DNA I think its the HTCModeClient.apk. I'm gonna remove it on my Rom today and see if my text work normal.
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my texting worked just fine when i removed it off of my phone
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my texting worked just fine when i removed it off of my phone
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Mine seems fine also.
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So reading this seems really shady that they would do this. So I'm not rooted on this phone and I don't want to root because I enjoy this phone how it is. So obviously I can't freeze this so if I disable it, won't this be the same thing as freezing it?
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Jaggar345 said:
So reading this seems really shady that they would do this. So I'm not rooted on this phone and I don't want to root because I enjoy this phone how it is. So obviously I can't freeze this so if I disable it, won't this be the same thing as freezing it?
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Kinda sorta... cant hurt to do that

[Q] Rooted but can't get OTA to stop trying to come in

Hello I searched the posts I hope I have not missed it anywhere. I have successfully rooted my 16gb verizon s4 and currently on Kernel 562219. I keep getting the OTA Push trying to still download. I see someone said to freeze it with titanium backup but I don't have the paid version so I can't freeze it. Is there another method to stop this? Or do I have to buy Titanium backup? Thanks for all help in advance sitting with my mobile data off right now so it won't download or anything while im away from my desk.
stang5litre said:
Hello I searched the posts I hope I have not missed it anywhere. I have successfully rooted my 16gb verizon s4 and currently on Kernel 562219. I keep getting the OTA Push trying to still download. I see someone said to freeze it with titanium backup but I don't have the paid version so I can't freeze it. Is there another method to stop this? Or do I have to buy Titanium backup? Thanks for all help in advance sitting with my mobile data off right now so it won't download or anything while im away from my desk.
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You can use Rom Toolbox. The free version will elt you do this. Freeze SDM.
Awesome
Protibus said:
You can use Rom Toolbox. The free version will elt you do this. Freeze SDM.
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Thanks so much for your quick response. I have seen that app and never used it .....fail on my part. This is a great app. Thanks so much :good: Frozen. Now I don't have to worry about it not to mention all the other utilities this app comes with. Very much appreciated.
stang5litre said:
Thanks so much for your quick response. I have seen that app and never used it .....fail on my part. This is a great app. Thanks so much :good: Frozen. Now I don't have to worry about it not to mention all the other utilities this app comes with. Very much appreciated.
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No problem. If you are rooted with custom recovery the OTA would fail anyway if it got that far. The OTA needs stock recovery to succeed.
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VZW/LG Crapware...

Just got a G2, coming from a tweaked-out Gnex. Totally in the honeymoon phase, but I gotta say, this is a killer phone.
So, before I spend a whole lot of time on this, how much of the LG VZW crapware can be removed?
If you can't remove those apps, do you folks Disable them, or just end up living alongside them?
Thanks in advance!
-bk
Root the phone and remove with Titanium Backup
Did you search for g2 debloat? Seems like this topic has a couple dedicated threads already.
My SOP is to freeze and then test for a few days before uninstalling. I use Titanium and/or Root Explorer.
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animere said:
Root the phone and remove with Titanium Backup
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Yup - well aware of the rooting route. For now, I want to stay stock, but see if I can improve that a bit.
cggorman said:
Did you search for g2 debloat? Seems like this topic has a couple dedicated threads already.
My SOP is to freeze and then test for a few days before uninstalling. I use Titanium and/or Root Explorer.
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I haven't searched for that, but I will now. Thanks!
Edit----
Here's an excellent thread on this topic...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=46220890
Should have looked around first. Thanks for the reminder!
billykxda said:
I haven't searched for that, but I will now. Thanks!
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Here's an excellent thread on this topic...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=46220890
Should have looked around first. Thanks for the reminder!
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I initially had luck rooting and using root explorer to remove the apk's in the system folder. However, a lot of the custom roms come with the bloatware stripped off by default. That might be a way to go as well.
xstewiegriffinx said:
I initially had luck rooting and using root explorer to remove the apk's in the system folder. However, a lot of the custom roms come with the bloatware stripped off by default. That might be a way to go as well.
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Yes - well aware of this. I've been a flash-a-holic for way too long on my GNex.
I am enjoying the notion of staying stock on the G2 - at least for a while. After being a "Pure Google Experience" dude for so long, it's refreshing to see so many creative ideas that some of the LG apps offer.
I'll probably just "Disable" some of the more obnoxious apps via the stock App Mgr for now.
The stock ROM even allows us to hide apps in the drawer without disable. The flexibility LG built into the stock ROM is impressive.
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Yea I disabled. After a few days I just went in with root Explorer and deleted all of the Amazon and Verizon stuff. No biggie.
The stock Rom is slick though. I've never been on a stock from this long in my life. It feels like AOKP but with a ton of extra features. I miss center clock, but it doesn't warrant losing all the other really cool features.
Actually the AOKP team is taking note and trying to port lots of stuff over to AOKP. So what's that tell you about the awesomeness of this phone?
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